Is the TVA the True Villain of Loki?

Welcome back to the TVA, Marvel fans! With Loki’s time-slipping under control, the god of mischief’s attention turns to more important issues about existential questions and the truth of the TVA. Dan Casey heads through a time door to take a closer look at whether the TVA could be the true villain of the series in today's episode of Nerdist News!
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[@Quintzal]

Branch pruning: Billions killed. McDonald's motto: "Billions Served"

[@LampDoesVideogame]

The fact that Brad becoming a movie star didn't set off alarms at the TVA means he's supposed to do that on the Sacred Timeline.

[@TheDamagedKoda]

Well remember they stopped pruning time branches

[@SIZModig]

Yes, but his "real" self is supposed to do that, not him (the variant). Thus, Brad must have purged his "real" self and taken his spot, but somehow nobody cares that he did.

[@somejerkbag]

Back in the day though. He didn't necessarily need to purge himself to impersonate ummm himself in another city.

[@Marshkoon]

@ZAPGAMERZyes because the sacred timeline is simply not a branch it’s the main universe he just took the place of someone else maybe. Slyvie literally chose a branched timeline she didn’t make one by going on the sacred timeline and making stuff differently.

[@BuckyBarnesATL]

They stopped pruning branches. Also, maybe that’s the way it’s “suppose” to happen now? Yet, yeah they stopped pruning branches.

[@TheSteveStrom]

JetSkis and key lime pie. Is Mobius from Florida.

[@13pgt]

Isn't "Brad Wolfe" a reference to Doctor Who's "Bad Wolf"?

[@Noms_Chompsky]

Lolz, anything we missed while doing the clip of every slice of pie in the automat being what Mobius asked for, classic.

[@flipflop1484]

Why didn't Loki just enchant Brad (X-5) on the Sacred timeline before heading back to the TVA to interrogate him about Sylvie's location?

[@SIMON_SAYS_SO]

Does Loki have the power of enchantment? Only Sylvie seems to have that actual power. Although she is a Loki variant, she is an amalgamation of Loki and Enchantress in the MCU.

[@SIZModig]

Loki cannot enchant, he can just join powers with Sylvie. She can enchant.

[@kellenhassell]

“So the movie can happen.” “Fair enough”

[@keon3155]

Amalgamation? Checking dictionary. Oh new word added to the brain. Thanks

[@ryakkan]

The past two episodes of Loki, in my opinion I think are better than the entirity of Phase Four.

[@wintermute7378]

I don't fully agree but...I definitely don't disagree.

[@kyleyoung2464]

Even loki s1?

[@Alejandro-ny9pv]

Guardians was great though and werewolf by night

[@donbrunodelamancha1927]

Has anyone noticed that Rafael Casal as Brad, while being interrogated is channeling Owen Wilson⁉️

[@clugirl86]

The TVA is a government bureaucracy that needs to be reformed desperately!

[@chaosreaper9255]

Isn't Silvie the real villain since she killed Kang, creating an apocalypse for all the timelines since all the Kangs are waging war?

[@ZyliceLiddell]

“It’s broken. It’s *ROTTEN!”*- Sylvie Until Loki makes it into a force for good. 😌💚

[@shoWbitz]

Theory: Oroboros is a Kang variant and the creator of the TVA

[@ridered300]

Dank A.C. back at it again

[@keon3155]

I can't see the word evil in the thumbnail lol

[@cdogg46]

I can't believe they got the actor from Blindspotting 😅

[@PrincessTS01]

who here thinks there was a Loki hiding in Acapulco last nite? Cat 5 hurricane apocalypse.

[@kyleyoung2464]

Yea im 90% sure it is?

[@kevinmoore4355]

For the time dilation between the timeline and the TV, isn't it just because they travelled to decades b4? Like we showed up at 1982 but that's prolly 6 months after she started working there that's definitely a mcminute

[@sneakernickel]

Stuttgart, not Dusseldorf.

[@CL_Audio_Tuning]

So Dan, what's with the Pie?! And also, how is it that people dont age in the TVA?

[@kellenhassell]

Potentially. Also think that Mobius and the young blonde kid who works w Sylvie @ McD’s are the same person (variants of each other) at different times.

[@clericofchaos1]

Of course they are, in the same way that alligator loki is the true main character of the show.

[@EricEstesEleutherian]

I hope Marvel can recover. I'm over Disney, though. I want them to fail & for Marvel to buy themselves back out.

[@keifsavage1090]

I'm want Marvel to be Marvel and Star Wars go back to George

[@Geto_5]

УФФФ Okay, bruj, nice

[@Zaniel8]

No, kangs r the villian

[@herrrecht3607]

Stuttgart! Nicht Düsseldorf... Know your Germany 😉

[@mcw281]

“Welcome back you Marvel Zaniacs!” …missed opportunity, Dan

[@mkrey]

I'm pretty sure all the pies were key lime. Does Mobius' subconscious somehow affect the reality of the TVA?

[@DarkDylan10]

I dont think its that he affects the reality, nothing like that. The creator of the TVA probably LOVES key lime pie and the joke is that thats the only pie you can get there, showing how the lives of the people working for the tva are conditioned by the man at the end of time.

[@SIZModig]

Yes they all were from what we could see.

[@rami_ungar_writer]

To be fair, Loki did get slapped a million times by Sifr. That probably took up a lot of time. And even excluding that, he's been through a lot. Two weeks probably does feel like another lifetime to him.

[@ZyliceLiddell]

And he looks it too. No offence to Tom Hiddleston but he’s aged *TWENTY YEARS* since the last season and he’s looking gaunt and skinny af! 😳 It’s quite worrying how sickly he looks lately. Fans at the latest NYCC were even distracted by how tired, gaunt, sickly and skinny he was. 😢😪

[@cartertony51]

Did everybody forget that breaking the timeline causes incursions and ultimately destroys the whole universe

[@schauseil187]

no. An incursion only occurs if one of the infinity stones is removed or the barrier between the dimensions is weakened.

[@josermaiz]

Tva Loki is going to help multiverse avengers

[@ReelAnimeMoments]

Watching youtubers cracking the code who created Khang and Who he remains. They forgot Thony Stark. He discovered time travel and created mostly advance tech. Future heroes and villains that has access to that messed up time lines and created branch time lines. It created Khang, Spiderman 2099 and some other individuals in the MCU that wants to change everything in their past and future. I really like how the MCU explains time travel. It wont change anything in your timeline but it will give birth to another timeline that you wanted it to be. Thus the Multiverse was born. Don't mind me. I'm just being a nerd.. 😂🤣😅 (Edit) In the Avengers End Game as they collect the infinity stones in the past branch timelines (even if its not official, Kevin Feige will thank me for this) , MCU is Designated as Universe 19999 it became/branches out to be the original 616 Universe from the comics, because it created or jumped in a new branch timeline. And in this new timeline the Mutants exist and prof. X will recruit them to create the X-men.

[@labordaze5952]

Dan Casey? More like Dan-the-Man Casey. Amirite?

[@dainbramage3558]

Loved s1, had no idea s2 was even a thing... have they advertised it at all??

[@dainbramage3558]

@@frenchdoseinthelab566 nope, legit not seen anything about it... maybe I live under a rock or something

[@BrysonRyenn]

it's been heavily advertised

[@dainbramage3558]

not where i spend my time it hasnt :)@@BrysonRyenn

[@dainbramage3558]

well im in uk and i mainly watch youtube and i dont watch mainstream tv but i usually see this sort of thing online etc, i have just come back from a 2 week holiday so i guess i just missed the boat :) now let me get back under my rock where its safe@@frenchdoseinthelab566

[@DataLoreHive]

Advertised? It clearly said at the end of S1 that 'Loki will return' - and yes, there was plenty of advertising S2 since then everywhere. The first trailer dropped over two months ago everywhere & more since, including features & whatnot, with even McDonald's themselves starting the global promotion of the show weeks back now. 😎

[@paulpixphotos]

ok, thought i was seeing things, glad to see other people had orange faces on their screen as well.

[@cdogg46]

9:08 basically someone else would fill that power vacuum. Some kind of order is needed for FREE WILL

[@craigrowan4001]

What was the deal with that weird "cafetaria"? No one else there, but hundreds of pieces of the same pie and nothing else.

[@Kazuma11290]

The difference between evil and mischief is that mischief sets things right again. It's like goodness with extra steps. The extra steps are the fun part.

[@NimseyLou]

Pie=Pi

[@fm9572]

The TVA could be inside the event horizon of a Supermassive Black Hole, much like "Interstellar". Time dilation could theoretically be used as an energy source from the feeding of the Black Hole itself and the excess energy expelled during this process.

[@dhruvvarma8289]

the amount of noises they made while eating that key lime pie>>>>>>>the show initself

[@XSelianBladeX]

OB remembering loki as they talked, but then loki seeing the word written in dust (skin) in the chamber suggest that time is a circle.

[@1kbmahan]

Plot has to plot so I hope so

[@philrm99]

Great discussion

[@Puncherjoe1]

.... Yes!

[@CharlesChristena]

@Nerdist ... Brad Wolf... Bad Wolf.. From Doctor Who... Time Travel... Eh??? Ehh??? Coincidence? :)

[@somejerkbag]

The real question is tho.... is the food at the TVA just awful? I mean, between Mobius loving that nuclear green key-lime pie and calling McDonald's a "great meal" I'd say their food must be trash 😂

[@CWSWanderer]

After shift after shift with nothing but cafeteria food and bad coffee, 1982 McDonald's is probably a really good change.

[@kellenhassell]

Mobius and the kid @ McD’s who works w Sylvie are the same person (variants of each other)