Film Theory: Why Iron Man is the WORST Avenger! (Marvel)

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@redkingrauri3769
@redkingrauri3769 Жыл бұрын
Realistically the most likely reason Tony isn't charged with any crimes is because of Nick Fury. SHIELD has a lot of sway in the MCU and seems to operate on their own terms in many cases. Fury's contact with Tony at the end of the first movie was probably not only enough to get him as an agent of SHIELD but also make sure any crimes he committed were considered justifiable under the conditions they were in.
@udulaketagoda6055
@udulaketagoda6055 Жыл бұрын
No, there's evidence that Iron Man's real lawyer is Saul, so
@leamhsiaresik3179
@leamhsiaresik3179 Жыл бұрын
I would agree but the man literally caused Ultron, and weren't almost all his villains thanks to himself, for a genius, he should have seen all this coming, I think the main reason he was only kept around because he had sway with the masses and as is known the government/ Nick Fury needs that. He is the very definition HUBRIS.
@Sadaaaaf
@Sadaaaaf Жыл бұрын
It’s like scp foundation
@TheKb117
@TheKb117 Жыл бұрын
SHIELD is the Military Industrial Complex irl... part of the deep state... who would sue them? hahaha
@MikePhantom
@MikePhantom Жыл бұрын
@@leamhsiaresik3179 a genius is not a fortune teller dingus.
@Hopalongtom
@Hopalongtom Жыл бұрын
The fact that the Billionaire doesn't get arrested is the most realistic part of the movies.
@SergioLeonardoCornejo
@SergioLeonardoCornejo Жыл бұрын
No. The part of him being a hypocrite and leading the faction demanding regulations while he breaks the laws is the most realistic one.
@ezrabraman6437
@ezrabraman6437 Жыл бұрын
He’s Jeff besos with power armor
@cocomelon_poppy
@cocomelon_poppy Жыл бұрын
@@ezrabraman6437 bold of you to assume Jeff besos doesn’t have secret power armour
@SergioLeonardoCornejo
@SergioLeonardoCornejo Жыл бұрын
​@@cocomelon_poppy he probably lost it in the divorce.
@himum3429
@himum3429 Жыл бұрын
@@ezrabraman6437 That would be Lex Luthor but all 3 are rich pricks so your not far off 😂
@emred4653
@emred4653 10 ай бұрын
tony being forced to give money to government because his suit considered as private airplane is pretty funny
@electricarc6377
@electricarc6377 Жыл бұрын
I feel like this would be an interesting mini series. Going over the crimes each of the heroes have done throughout the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
@faeezmiller5847
@faeezmiller5847 Жыл бұрын
The Punisher next
@toonasag
@toonasag Жыл бұрын
Will be awesome ngl
@cptsponko32
@cptsponko32 Жыл бұрын
You should start it
@ionicvideo
@ionicvideo Жыл бұрын
Heck, why not do every action movie ever made!
@ae8177
@ae8177 Жыл бұрын
They destroyed whole NYC and the killed half of the living universe
@kennyholmes5196
@kennyholmes5196 Жыл бұрын
He's not the only one who breaks a lot of laws. Pretty much every superhero could be walloped on several laws being broken.
@DrDipsh1t
@DrDipsh1t Жыл бұрын
Yup. I think The Boys did an OK job kinda incorporating that into the show and how the Supes were able to operate legally as law enforcement/defense contractors.
@hanneswiggenhorn2023
@hanneswiggenhorn2023 Жыл бұрын
​@@DrDipsh1t I think it is also kinda well handled in watchmen, where basically the heros are kind of criminals, but because of the masks, it is "impossible" to link one person to the activities, as it could always have been another person under the mask at that time, so they can move freely in their masks, but have to be careful while involved in action
@DrDipsh1t
@DrDipsh1t Жыл бұрын
@@hanneswiggenhorn2023 agreed. I kinda used the watchmen as a way to describe The Boys to others to help articulate that element of "what happens when they're not being super heroes" aspect. I feel it adds a unique element of immersion and also "humanizes" the "heroes" as not these picture perfect role models, but people with their own problems and a more realistic world.
@SgtSupaman
@SgtSupaman Жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I was thinking when the video started. Superheroes are pretty much breaking laws by being superheroes. However, in the MCU, some of them are covered in at least some of their acts by being government sanctioned. Captain America, Falcon, and Hawkeye all started that way, though they wound up going rogue in Civil War. War Machine has always operated under government authorization. The Sokovia Accords temporarily brought all those that agreed to it under legal operation, which applied to both Iron Man and Spider-Man.
@andrewtall4636
@andrewtall4636 Жыл бұрын
​@@Instabruh.User.. imagine being a bot and STILL being late to reply😂
@Shythalia
@Shythalia Жыл бұрын
Remember that near the end of the first movie, S.H.I.E.L.D planned on helping him to cover up the fact that he was the Iron Man. They gave him those speech card things (I forget what they're called) to help him with denying that he was Iron Man. A government agency secretly helping a billionaire be free of what he did in that first movie.
@natratcritter
@natratcritter Жыл бұрын
Granted he was seen as a possible asset for them for the Avengers initiative so it was in their best interest for both parties to deny.
@Shythalia
@Shythalia Жыл бұрын
@@natratcritter yep
@Handlelesswithme
@Handlelesswithme Жыл бұрын
More like there trying to sugar coat him to get free labor Government I’m I right
@YOGITHEWARRIOR
@YOGITHEWARRIOR 7 ай бұрын
Wait a second what did he even do A person steals his weapon to get out of terrorists hold and takes Tony's arc reactor(which was already registered coz it was used in their factories Tony only minimised its size) to charge his own armour and to start being a war lord and Tony killed him and sheild was covering it coz he did it for the sake of democracy So don't say that sheild helped him coz he's is multi billionaire
@Shythalia
@Shythalia 7 ай бұрын
@@YOGITHEWARRIOR I know. He's a hero and I like him. xD I was just acting like some kind of conspiracy theorist to add to the video's theory. I'm sorry I didn't get that point across in my comment.
@GooseCheezy_official
@GooseCheezy_official Жыл бұрын
I always figured that they just assumed they had no way of containing stark in a prison cell. no matter what punishment they would try to enforce im sure tony would just be like "nah" they would have no way of containing that man so they just left him alone and figured "well at least hes sort of on our side"
@tno895
@tno895 Жыл бұрын
Like our government wouldn't Ruby Ridge someone that inconvenient. Good one.
@abebechkebede36
@abebechkebede36 Жыл бұрын
I mean tony has gadgets and technology that dwarfs the US or any government for that madder and on top of that all the powerful weapons the us has come from Stark Industries so tony could just shut down the whole thing or just solo them with his nano suit
@black_hand78
@black_hand78 Жыл бұрын
@@tno895no, I think their onto something 🤔. The Avengers, tony alone, destroy billions of dollars worth infrastructure, housing, etc world wide BUT the US gov sends in people to rebuild said destruction which makes the construction companies $$$ and in return the gov makes $$$. Let’s be real, we all know war and destruction makes the most money sadly…
@bradenr867
@bradenr867 10 ай бұрын
@@tno895uh, how would they even get close enough with all of his spy satellites
@xstar4698
@xstar4698 10 ай бұрын
He would just say: Nuh uh And he'd go free lol
@Canzary
@Canzary Жыл бұрын
This episode is literally just MatPat having the same realizations JJJ had about Spiderman
@skipped4167
@skipped4167 Жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh you're right
@BurgerSoup
@BurgerSoup Жыл бұрын
HE'S A MENACE!
@Blackoutdmc
@Blackoutdmc Жыл бұрын
BRING. ME. IRON-MAAAAN!
@thesamuraispirit7686
@thesamuraispirit7686 Жыл бұрын
All superheros are vigilantes and therefore TECHNICALLY criminals
@FIRENICEWOLF
@FIRENICEWOLF Жыл бұрын
​@@thesamuraispirit7686 arrest them go ahead and try
@alanalirkani
@alanalirkani Жыл бұрын
To be fair, Peter Parker dying to Thanos's snap had very little to do with Tony Stark (other than the fact that the heroes failed to stop Thanos). It wouldn't have mattered where Peter was when the snap happened, he just happened to be a part of the unlucky half population that was snapped away.
@Deadpool-ri3rq
@Deadpool-ri3rq Жыл бұрын
Came here to comment that but you already did it. Yeah, honestly, Peter snuck into the ship against Tony’s wishes and then dusted which had nothing to do with Tony.
@thereallotusx
@thereallotusx Жыл бұрын
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@S.Uranus
@S.Uranus Жыл бұрын
​@@thereallotusx Threesome.
@jimmywoolever798
@jimmywoolever798 Жыл бұрын
In regards to all the permits and paperwork, I imagine Jarvis (and Friday) simply auto-filled and submitted all the necessary stuff for Tony (and Peter). Also there's the whole SHIELD thing, likely wiping away most of his crimes while hanging on to the juicy stuff as leverage.
@brieoconnor9824
@brieoconnor9824 Жыл бұрын
@@Instabruh.User.. 'Not a bot or lie' is the most suspicious thing you can possibly say
@revemb4653
@revemb4653 Жыл бұрын
Here is the full clip : u don't want to miss this youtu.be/RickRoll
@AnynomousUser
@AnynomousUser Жыл бұрын
The amount of bots here is insane Do not like this, I contributed nothing to this. The fact this got 1 like is weird. I simply stated a fact anyone can see. My notifications can't handle this :(
@AnInsideJoke
@AnInsideJoke Жыл бұрын
We actually do see that in Age of Ultron, don't we? During the Hulk and Hulkbuster fight, Tony uses his AI to buy a huge skyscraper under construction before destroying it by slamming Hulk into it face-first.
@DFloyd84
@DFloyd84 Жыл бұрын
SHIELD handles people of mass destruction (i.e. superheroes) and has a hazy limit on their powers, so it's not unreasonable to think that Nick Fury uses "national and global security" as a means to keep Iron Man et al out of the legal system so he can have them respond to world-ending threats.
@gamesinreallife7545
@gamesinreallife7545 Жыл бұрын
Nicolas cage said it perfectly. He “did what was considered wrong, in order to do what he knew was right” - national treasure
@ostronouto6869
@ostronouto6869 Жыл бұрын
I gotta say, this video feels like an old school topic being presented on the new style of editing. I'm LOVING it
@leomonaghan3933
@leomonaghan3933 Жыл бұрын
Most of this was likely covered by some "conditional immunity" clause written into Fury's S.H.I.E.L.D *"Avengers Initiative"*. So long as he kept Stark's name on the list of members (or even potential members) it probably blocked most government agencies from pursuing action against him. This was followed up after S.H.I.E.L.D collapsed by the "Sokovia Accords" and Stark being one of the initial signatories of that legislation.
@CouchSpud91
@CouchSpud91 Жыл бұрын
And going by his actions in Civil War, pretty much all of the legal ramifications of his actions were suspended so long as Tony acted as a lapdog for General Ross and the group in charge of enforcing the Sokovia Accords. Which he did to a point, only defying Ross as much as he could without giving Ross the ammunition to pull the trigger on said legal issues.
@eksprolek2924
@eksprolek2924 Жыл бұрын
​@Teddy Einstein beacayse its fun to list out all laws he broke
@acer0255
@acer0255 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, because S.H.I.E.L.D. is likely a "Private" organization and any "Regis-tration" would nullify a lot of their immunities. Which is likely what the "Government" wants of an intelligence agency. A group that has reduced "Transparency" in order to carry out "Clandestine" operations which could cause war between nations if their names and actions are filed under that nation.
@smokin965
@smokin965 Жыл бұрын
Wow! This is actually a great idea! Thanks for getting my fave Tony Stark out of trouble!
@RockettRevengerr
@RockettRevengerr Жыл бұрын
This actually makes sense
@leiilei5440
@leiilei5440 Жыл бұрын
I actually think the iconic line "I am Iron-man" is his real life legal loophole for keeping his suits privatized. he is identifying himself as the iron-man and making no seperation legally between himself and his suits, an individual can not be legally considered a weapon because that would involve legally labeling them as property, and so by claiming that he is iron-man and therefor the suits are an extension of himself he is creating a legal loophole to prevent the government from seizing anything.
@reallydead
@reallydead Жыл бұрын
He did mention that in Ironman 2 in the Congress.
@wkGeoff
@wkGeoff Жыл бұрын
I am gun-hand man
@JustCallMeEmily
@JustCallMeEmily Жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, the government considers some people (US Soldiers) property already. Wouldn't be too far of a stretch to assume they consider Tony property too. Expecially after the accords and such.
@PunLlarena
@PunLlarena Жыл бұрын
So, Chainsaw man is also good?
@filipjohansson6406
@filipjohansson6406 Жыл бұрын
I am nuclear warhead
@Puckett.
@Puckett. Жыл бұрын
The government knew he was Iron Man well before the "I am Iron Man" scene. Rhodey knew pretty much right away. The government knew maybe 10 minutes later. The only thing the "I am Iron Man" scene did was let the public know. But the public already had extremely reliable rumors that he was Iron Man. They just hadn't heard it yet from the horses mouth.
@SilverSpectre266
@SilverSpectre266 Жыл бұрын
RDJ improvising "I am Iron Man" was one of the best moves in the MCU. Just imagining the series where its him doubling back constantly and trying to portray Tony Stark and Iron Man separately like a secret identity would have likely ended up a weird bungled mess. Especially considering how he was one of the few people in the world at the time with the means, money, and knowhow to do it, and in the right circumstance. I cant imagine him trying to constantly play that off.
@stevenscott2136
@stevenscott2136 Жыл бұрын
In the comics, Iron Man allegedly worked for Stark. So that would be just as bad, sending your hapless employee / personal one-man army off to do all this stuff.
@JacobHJones
@JacobHJones Жыл бұрын
@@stevenscott2136 Iron Man is Stark.
@henrytownshend8862
@henrytownshend8862 Жыл бұрын
Is that unscripted
@emilykeepsmiling9465
@emilykeepsmiling9465 Жыл бұрын
Aw wow I never knew that moment was unscripted!! What was meant to happen in that scene? ❤
@AyoKhan
@AyoKhan Жыл бұрын
@@JacobHJones yeah, but to cover up for himself, he said “Iron Man” worked for him.
@UnofficialDoJo
@UnofficialDoJo Жыл бұрын
That "contraband" to "abandoned" editing was top notch. Props to the editor/editors.
@Saphia_
@Saphia_ Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@allovas
@allovas Жыл бұрын
I loved it
@dantegallardo1974
@dantegallardo1974 Жыл бұрын
time?
@zuki_gnj
@zuki_gnj Жыл бұрын
​@@dantegallardo1974 9:26
@chuckled125
@chuckled125 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, so slick
@crisiscat
@crisiscat Жыл бұрын
Well the guy started out as war arms manufacturer and dealer, I have never forgotten about that since the first Iron Man movie. He happily sold weapons to buyers and not question where those weapons were used until it hit home (literally).
@mysteryk2283
@mysteryk2283 Жыл бұрын
what are you on about? he always thought his weapons go to the US only. He was shocked when he learned his partner was selling weapons to anyone else. He is not a global arms dealer, but more of a USA contractor that only supported USA with new technology and weapons. Making weapons for your own country is not the same as arms dealers that sell to anyone regardless of what they will do with it.
@ChrisSmith-tu9bu
@ChrisSmith-tu9bu Жыл бұрын
Eh TECHNICALLY he didn't do ANY of that and he basically was uninterested and assumed the best from his wealthy CEO/friend/mentor...its basically a direct parallel of how Americans always assume our country is using its multi-trillion dollar defense budget responsibily, the one that we pay for mind you... despite all the needless killing they do for profit and despite America having thousands of starving children and half the country without health care...all so that we can justify the profits of war...but he wasnt aware because he didn't care...he was too busy living the high life
@brieoconnor9824
@brieoconnor9824 Жыл бұрын
@@mysteryk2283 ah yes, the United States of America, famous for their ethical use of weapons in war.
@pinkyboy8576
@pinkyboy8576 Жыл бұрын
The one who sold the weapons to bad ppl actually was Obadiah Stane
@LordDaret
@LordDaret 4 ай бұрын
@@mysteryk2283 "Keep your friends rich and your enemies rich, and wait to find out which is which." Ultron, accidentally quoting Tony Stark.
@-JohnDoe-
@-JohnDoe- Жыл бұрын
The later conclusion actually makes a lot of sense. As well as the guilt you touched on in the beginning for some of the bad things he did, Tony probably had to go out of his way to fawn on the government in order to keep his equipment and freedom.
@angelbarrera3890
@angelbarrera3890 Жыл бұрын
It’s always been a bit weird that Spider-Man was basically kidnapped to make a child soldier, especially without aunt may knowing.
@reynabdelazim6423
@reynabdelazim6423 Жыл бұрын
yeah it didnt seem done for any special reason except having spiderman in the mcu, theres alot of superheros in mcu that iron man didnt hire but the kid with spider powers? yes
@fnuibusaja8079
@fnuibusaja8079 Жыл бұрын
@@Instabruh.User.. tft? also prove it
@LORdREDSTOneNR1
@LORdREDSTOneNR1 Жыл бұрын
@@fnuibusaja8079 The Film Theorists, also that's a bot, also Deez Nuts
@theoutsiderjess1869
@theoutsiderjess1869 Жыл бұрын
It always bothered me and then tony was a terrible mentor in Homecoming how is a hands off approach going to work with teenage superheroes
@dafilmqueen556
@dafilmqueen556 Жыл бұрын
And yet we enjoy Irondad? No way, if this is how bad the man is, I fear what other sort of mentors baby spider might have doing worse..
@C0ron4Cat
@C0ron4Cat Жыл бұрын
In a world where literal superheroes exist, I would be extremely surprised if the world didn't have its own set of superhero rules and exceptions
@10tailedbijuu
@10tailedbijuu Жыл бұрын
very true, 1 of many reasons i don't like these theories of his, they tend to ignore every bit of context about in the movies
@johnnyarthur7159
@johnnyarthur7159 Жыл бұрын
That's essentially what Civil War is about
@GoobyDev
@GoobyDev Жыл бұрын
At the beginning of the video he actually states that he's trying to compare to the real world legal system, not theirs. Our world doesn't have those rules and exceptions for superheros as far as we know
@yannick7049
@yannick7049 Жыл бұрын
@@GoobyDev Yeah but "let's rip this entirely out of context and then go over how bad this is in the new context" is kinda a bad and rather artificial way to go about it.
@HopeIsADrug11037
@HopeIsADrug11037 Жыл бұрын
@@10tailedbijuu He's stated before that some of his theories don't take some things into consideration to make it work. He knows some of his theories are ridiculous and he owns it. (plus he literally said at the beginning that he's comparing it to OUR legal system. Not the MCU)
@KyoMatsurame
@KyoMatsurame Жыл бұрын
The guy in the Senate also wanted the suit because he was an Agent of Hydra, who most of the govt was at the time, so in many ways it was just the enemy trying to steal a suit for themselves too.
@10tailedbijuu
@10tailedbijuu Жыл бұрын
these theories of Matt's tend to ignore all content!! Even the bit that says even if a non government body would be the one to take away Tony's toys, the government would immediately send people to take it for themselves.
@violetrose674
@violetrose674 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but Tony didn't know that at the time he was just breaking the law because he was rich and he could
@rohits7364
@rohits7364 Жыл бұрын
@@violetrose674 Every hero in MCU has broken the law in sone ways.Steve broke the law by enlisting in the army with fake names and even tried to with very dangerous health issues, that would have endangered his entire team. Wanda worked for Hydra and relesed the hulk in populated area,which was wiped under the rug because of Tony,because Cap wanted give her a chance. Sa
@Glitch_513
@Glitch_513 Жыл бұрын
Getting away from Tony, have yall ever noticed that Loki's eyes were blue, like he was being mind controlled, during the first Avengers movie? MatPat, we need a theory on this
@jwmmitch
@jwmmitch Жыл бұрын
I think Tony Stark having the financial means to fight back would go a LONG way, and then a combination of making deals and general non compliance (aka defiance) would have kept him free. And I think it basically comes down to they just can't stop him really, or aren't willing to pay the price it would cost to stop him
@AlechiaTheWitch
@AlechiaTheWitch Жыл бұрын
Shield too. Shield is a governmenf association
@pedroriosromero4574
@pedroriosromero4574 Жыл бұрын
Tony stark is the embodiment of “try to stop me and see what happens” Tony… may you continue to live in our hearts😢
@homerman76
@homerman76 Жыл бұрын
​@@pedroriosromero4574Killing him off was one of the worst things Marvel did, it had a lot of impact in the movie sure and was good from that standpoint, but his death is was not good for the longevity of the MCU 🤔
@ProcyonNite
@ProcyonNite Жыл бұрын
@@homerman76 How so? The death was perfect for the conclusion of the character as well as the infinity saga.
@D14MBK
@D14MBK Жыл бұрын
@@homerman76 no fcking way, it was the perfect conclusion
@f-entertainmentbts6850
@f-entertainmentbts6850 Жыл бұрын
A counterpoint to the E.D.I.T.H glasses point is that Shield handed them over to Peter. And no less it was Fury (Talos the Skrull disguised as Fury) who handed them over. It's likely the glasses were registered by shield for Peter so he didn't have to go through that whole process.
@TGPDrunknHick
@TGPDrunknHick Жыл бұрын
or entrapment at worst. a government agent conspiring to get an innocent to commit a crime is a crime in of itself.
@tonuahmed4227
@tonuahmed4227 10 ай бұрын
Yeah...that might be true...
@5starrsam
@5starrsam 9 ай бұрын
turn to Christ❤😊😊
@tonuahmed4227
@tonuahmed4227 9 ай бұрын
No...
@tacticallemon7518
@tacticallemon7518 9 ай бұрын
the part mat pat was talking about is that tony didn’t register the E.D.I.T.H drones *before* his passing Sure, Peter obtains them legally, but Stark had them illegally
@BLAKPIXEL98
@BLAKPIXEL98 Жыл бұрын
Peter was crime fighting before he even met Tony, if anything, Tony made things safer for peter by providing him with better tools for doing what he was gonna do anyways without Tony's influence.
@suzygirl1843
@suzygirl1843 Жыл бұрын
Matt ONLY realizes this NOW?
@alazaystreeter7444
@alazaystreeter7444 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention that when Tony did take the suit back and discouraged Peter from Spiderman-ing, Peter still went out and did it anyway without the protective suit, using his previous Spiderman "onesie". And on top of that, we already see that May is ok with him going over county borders to "Spiderman" because in Far From Home, SHE packs the suit even when Peter didn't have any intentions to use it. Tony gave Peter an out multiple times, but Peter never took it and was going to get involved with or without Tony's permission. The Peter portion shouldn't count (though I do agree with you on the Edith thing. Big Oof), but the rest is a pretty good theory. Great job @Matpat!! 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
@kakahass8845
@kakahass8845 Жыл бұрын
I don't think that would make any difference under the law.
@TrainerGoldAlt
@TrainerGoldAlt Жыл бұрын
@@suzygirl1843 even if that was the case, it wouldn't make a difference in the face of the law
@personlol4415
@personlol4415 Жыл бұрын
He put him in MORE danger though because the crime fighting Peter was originally doing was basic not getting beaten up by shield boomerang throwing people
@britishguy54dx
@britishguy54dx Жыл бұрын
Tony may have also broken in-universe laws surrounding the Sokovia Accords, in relation to harbouring Peter’s identity of Spider-Man. (Peter deliberately made sure to keep his identity secret, a violation of the Sokovia Accords).
@TheDeathKeeperGaming
@TheDeathKeeperGaming Жыл бұрын
If Tony were to go to court, he would probably win it thanks to this thing called jury nullification, which is when the jury chooses to give someone the not guilty verdict but knows they commit the crime but you did it with good intent and him being a super hero he would definitely go the route.
@IfWiccanYouCan
@IfWiccanYouCan Жыл бұрын
True on that one- on top of nullification if they see no harm. They can call a number of different loopholes to not even go to court, or continue the case under a guise of seid nullification.
@rifter0x0000
@rifter0x0000 Жыл бұрын
But you can't tell anyone about jury nullification or the judge will invalidate the jury, and the judges can lie to the jury about it as well.
@1994AustinSmith
@1994AustinSmith Жыл бұрын
​@@rifter0x0000 True, but... If "nullification" is intentionally giving a "wrong" verdict, because there's no penalty for being "wrong"... Are we supposed to assume we'd get the death penalty for a "wrong" verdict?
@rifter0x0000
@rifter0x0000 Жыл бұрын
@@1994AustinSmith That's not nullification. Jury nullification means the jury can find you "not guilty" even if your conduct did break the law, in cases where the jury believes the law itself unjust or is being unjustly applied. It doesn't mean finding people guilty or giving them the death penalty. The opposite in fact.
@1994AustinSmith
@1994AustinSmith Жыл бұрын
​@@rifter0x0000 I mean, are the *jury* supposed to assume they'd be punished for a wrong verdict, because the defendant claimed "self defense" or something?
@Prich319
@Prich319 Жыл бұрын
Considering Senator Stern turned out to be a member of Hydra, I think it's a good thing that they weren't able to seize his armor.
@neonhill1595
@neonhill1595 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t even trust the US government with his armor, regardless of Hydra
@rrodey2015
@rrodey2015 Жыл бұрын
​@@neonhill1595 I mean, the world council did order a nuke against an unevacuated Manhattan, just because the Avengers didn't take the aliens out in 30 minutes!
@maryjoyspohrer256
@maryjoyspohrer256 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@luckymark571
@luckymark571 Жыл бұрын
​@@rrodey2015true 😂😂😂
@englishlady9797
@englishlady9797 2 ай бұрын
@@neonhill1595 ...and yet in Civil War Tony willingly becomes a patsy of the same government and of Ross, no less. Dude has no integrity at all.
@magmadude35
@magmadude35 Жыл бұрын
I was kinda disappointed that we don't see a huge infrastructure boom from Tony, i thought it was the whole point in iron man 1 that he wanted his tech to be used to help the people. One man can't do much to help a few thousand, but Tony could have helped the world with his arc reactors. Water desalination in drought stricken areas, heating in perpetually cold areas. Heck the amount of time between iron man one and tonys death we could have had multiple colonies around our solar system with his tech. He held back so much
@hoiching4994
@hoiching4994 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, though one attraction at my countries disneyland does actually feature an arc reactor that powers a bunch of stuff, sad to see it not be mentioned in the movies though
@izzanirfan2534
@izzanirfan2534 Жыл бұрын
I believe he doesn't want make his tech public because he doesn't trust anyone, especially governs
@ConstellationEternalLucidDream
@ConstellationEternalLucidDream Жыл бұрын
To be fair, the mcu was based off of the comics…
@excaliburknight1016
@excaliburknight1016 Жыл бұрын
I think the main thing that holds him back at that point is trust. His tech could easily advance our species hundreds if not thousands of years in development, but we're just not ready for it. Even as secure as his designs were, people still managed to get a hold of them and use it for criminal activities. Governments take control of it? We'd have a police state of armored sentinels and weapons far deadlier than the nukes, with an arms race that could cause another world war.
@drade14
@drade14 Жыл бұрын
In the comics he does but it always backfires when an enemy/rival weponises said tek against him
@jaye2491
@jaye2491 Жыл бұрын
Tony's Billionaire level lawyer: "Human trafficking? Say the name, Spiiiddeeeerrr-man, he isn't a human, what are you talking about, he is a spider-human."
@samm7371
@samm7371 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, one of the things I felt was missing from 'No Way Home' was not the backlash against Spiderman, but Damage control slamming Stark Industries for giving Pete the suit, the glasses and more
@jesuusch
@jesuusch Жыл бұрын
Yea I wonder if they would’ve pursued legal action against Pepper since she was the CEO before and after Tony died, I know Happy did get in legal trouble tho
@KoolerThanKen
@KoolerThanKen Жыл бұрын
But would they know about Spider-Man working that closely with Iron Man
@pepe2veces
@pepe2veces Жыл бұрын
Not likely, anyone who even tries to badmouth the guy who literally died to save half of the universe would suffer severe public backlash, any public figure saying anything bad about Tony or his legacy would be ending his own career
@NormalThe7th
@NormalThe7th Жыл бұрын
Why would damage control condemn stark industries when stark was literally a founder of it and profitted from it and all. Stark would be their boss
@Stormertheboy
@Stormertheboy 10 ай бұрын
@@pepe2veces he saved the entire universe technically
@kierangill8757
@kierangill8757 Жыл бұрын
“Atonying for his mistakes” He’s achieved full dadpat
@Gisaboiad
@Gisaboiad Жыл бұрын
He's still yet to reach his final form... Boomerpat.
@Gisaboiad
@Gisaboiad Жыл бұрын
@@Instabruh.User.. touch grass
@caril.9384
@caril.9384 Жыл бұрын
@@Gisaboiad You made me actually laugh
@BPgamemaster12
@BPgamemaster12 Жыл бұрын
For the whole "endangering an minor" thing, I bet after Aunt May founded out Peter is Spider-Man; he gave Tony quite a earful and was given some compensation and maybe a promise to keep an closer eye on Peter's crimefighting. Clearly that didn't work all that well, but it was something.
@daveleevicks8749
@daveleevicks8749 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, she's clearly upset when she sees him for the first time(as spiderman). Guess they didn't want to explore that any further.
@anattemptwasmade
@anattemptwasmade Жыл бұрын
In terms of real life billionaires, yeah that's definitely something that I could see happening but can't see Tony doing that (especially not to Peter's unusually attractive Aunt). May clearly supports it after she finds out and obviously she was gonna be surprised to find out her son is a superhero, I'd be surprised if my dad was Superman
@anattemptwasmade
@anattemptwasmade Жыл бұрын
@@daveleevicks8749 she was surprised, not upset
@daveleevicks8749
@daveleevicks8749 Жыл бұрын
@@anattemptwasmade that too
@cykesrevenge
@cykesrevenge Жыл бұрын
A;so by bringing in Peter would he have violated the Sakovia Accords (Peter certainly was in violation) which is exactly what Tony was arguing that they needed.
@Foreveryellow13
@Foreveryellow13 Жыл бұрын
I hate that everyone gives Tony a hard time about Peter. Even if Tony never got involved peter would have still been spider man as we saw. Tony knew this and gave him better gear to PROTECT him better, he didn't encourage anything he just brought out what was already there it a more guided way then what would have happened if he was never there.
@kittyaya3425
@kittyaya3425 Жыл бұрын
That is true. You cant blame him for parker's snap death. He tried to help people. He tried to save the people who were about to get yeeted into the afterlife. Yes he was doing some illegal stuff. But he was doing the for good. He was breaking into the house to stop a criminal. S.H.I.E.L.D was letting tony stay in the hellicarrier. Tony letting peter have the equipment because he was about 17. And plus, rodgers knew about spiderman
@procrastinatorbrad8041
@procrastinatorbrad8041 Жыл бұрын
@@kittyaya3425 additionally on that snap death, i seem to recall stark actively trying to stop him from coming, and was surprised when he found out he was still there.
@kittyaya3425
@kittyaya3425 Жыл бұрын
@@procrastinatorbrad8041 i am no expert at the mcu but that definitely is something tony stark would do
@Manostion
@Manostion Жыл бұрын
Not only all that, but don't forget what Thanos said about the snap: It's random, without passion. Yes, Peter died on Titan, but if he hadn't come along he simply would've died on Earth. Peter was not punched to death by Thanos, so Tony did not cause his death, nor could he have prevented it.
@DeputyFish
@DeputyFish Жыл бұрын
@@procrastinatorbrad8041 yep he just got on the ship with them, they didnt bring him with
@nathanielwells7100
@nathanielwells7100 Жыл бұрын
I wonder what prison could hold Iron man without him figuring a way out.
@Quacking-duck
@Quacking-duck Жыл бұрын
Azkaban I know it's in Harry Potter don't yell at me
@jbradley8659
@jbradley8659 Жыл бұрын
At first I was thinking of Alcatraz, that old prison that isn't used anymore in the middle of some body of water. But, then I remembered that Tony can just call his suit over to break him out or make something to bust out with the materials he has at hand. Maybe a prison in space run only by robots so no human spacecraft would be there for Tony to use and escape.
@SgtSupaman
@SgtSupaman Жыл бұрын
Any prison that confiscates his tech when they book him. It's not like he has any super powers. But, in the MCU, he would likely be kept in a prison specifically made for super-powered people, like Clint, Scott, and Sam were in Civil War (all of whom have no powers without their equipment).
@caliginousmoira8565
@caliginousmoira8565 Жыл бұрын
@@SgtSupaman like batman.... his mind is his superpower
@theinvisiblegentleman1142
@theinvisiblegentleman1142 Жыл бұрын
@SgtSupaman Did you miss iron man 3?
@zee.lovessGod
@zee.lovessGod Жыл бұрын
I appreciate how MatPat is still posting consistently even though he has a fourth channel now. Keep up the good work! 😁
@osmosisjones4912
@osmosisjones4912 Жыл бұрын
Here is the full clip : kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3yrdn-gl6ekj8k
@magiconfire
@magiconfire Жыл бұрын
fourth*
@Yumums
@Yumums Жыл бұрын
I can't imagine "fashion" providing enough content for consistent uploads lol. Movies and Food are much easier to make content on. Fashion is just a waste of time. Shit's goofy
@pvic6959
@pvic6959 Жыл бұрын
give recognition to steph the rest of the team too! they make it possible.
@pvic6959
@pvic6959 Жыл бұрын
@@Yumums maybe its just not for you. fashion isnt for me either. but its been around loooong before movies
@petersaunders5808
@petersaunders5808 Жыл бұрын
I think a good reason why Tony Stark isn’t behind bars is that, with the exception of war machine, the US government couldn’t hope to actually enforce those laws on him, because he has the technology to fight them rather successfully. Remember, the iron legion from age of Ultron?
@andriusas90
@andriusas90 Жыл бұрын
maybe one base but the us military in force? he would crushed by the sheer numbers i don't think you grasp just how much firepower us military can bring to bear they aren't called worlds most powerful military for nothing
@thatonedudeontheinternet5175
@thatonedudeontheinternet5175 Жыл бұрын
@@andriusas90 you do know that in the MCU most lethal war weapons were created by tony right? I’m sorry to disappoint you but if tony absolutely wanted to he could 1v the entire military easily since let’s be honest tony can probably shut down most of their firepower as most of it was created by him remember though this is the MCU’s military not real life.
@andriusas90
@andriusas90 Жыл бұрын
@@thatonedudeontheinternet5175 no it wasn't military has several other contractors and there is no way stark industries could even come close to producing enough weapons for military and also it's military they would have already checked for any backdoors in the weaponry they have there's absolutely no way stark would be able to sneak any weapons with backdoor access to military they would freaking check it over and over to make sure the weapon works just as intented it might surprise you but Tony stark isn't the only engineer or programmer in the world he is simply the most famous
@sppindrgreen1981
@sppindrgreen1981 Жыл бұрын
Lol I have the comment I literally can't believe the amount of delusional I'm seeing in these comments. The US military vs Tony Stark. The guy who helped take down Thanos and you telling me the US military can beat this guy in a fight lol
@andriusas90
@andriusas90 Жыл бұрын
@@sppindrgreen1981 yeah and he had a lot of help defeating thanos you are greatly overestimating him if you think he stands a chance against combined might of us military
@Mast3rKK
@Mast3rKK Жыл бұрын
the whole "spiderman's death is tony's responsibility" makes no sense all tony did that could be considered encouraging peter to be a vigilante in infinity war, was giving peter the iron spider suit, which was for peter's own safety
@catherineadewoye5081
@catherineadewoye5081 Жыл бұрын
thats pretty true because peters death wasn't his fault
@englishlady9797
@englishlady9797 2 ай бұрын
OK, but he took a 14-year-old into a combat scenario in Civil War, which is every shade of illegal and is a violation of international human rights laws as well as the Geneva Convention. Also Infinity War was a war. A battle, so its not just vigilateism, he's literally taking a minor into battle, which is a war crime.
@StandUpConorDy
@StandUpConorDy Жыл бұрын
MatPat is that one guy in the friend group who won’t shut up during the movie making predictions and applying real world logic and scenarios and scream when the predictions come to pass.
@mentaya11
@mentaya11 Жыл бұрын
Me too. I have to work hard sometimes to not talk out loud and ruin everything for people. I talk a ton after the movie though.
@marcwilson1052
@marcwilson1052 Жыл бұрын
Guilty
@idarblox
@idarblox Жыл бұрын
Same I keep yelling at Harry Potter movies "WHY COULDNT SIRIUS GET A TRIAL?! ON VERITASERUM LIKE THAT IGOR GUY"
@thesamuraispirit7686
@thesamuraispirit7686 Жыл бұрын
Oh boy i can relate XF
@kunitherock
@kunitherock Жыл бұрын
i’m the same 😭
@hellriser__
@hellriser__ Жыл бұрын
this should be a series, i swear. just superheroes of their respective franchises and their crimes.
@kristinross6890
@kristinross6890 Жыл бұрын
weirdly enough, in a business english class i took for my degree a few years ago, we had to do presentations, reporter style, on whatever we wanted. and i chose to do an exposè style moment of “yeah the avengers save our lives but they’ve ruined our building and make our taxes skyrocket year after year, constantly having to rebuild neighborhoods, no insurance premiums on monsters coming out of the sky crashing into your home, where will the madness end?” and i had a few classmates in stitches because they’d never thought of it like that before 😂
@jenniferbornfurtado9562
@jenniferbornfurtado9562 Жыл бұрын
I agree, superheros aren’t just saving us, they are doing other stuff too.
@CoopMoe
@CoopMoe Жыл бұрын
Legal Eagle exists
@hellriser__
@hellriser__ Жыл бұрын
@@CoopMoe oh i didn't know he made a series like that. just checked and it's random franchises not limited to just superheroes which is cool. but i do want more of the less popular superheroes to be exposed so more content will still be appreciated!
@TheScarletSlayer
@TheScarletSlayer Жыл бұрын
Matpat: *watches a movie about a billionaire fighting space aliens in a robot suit* Also MatPat: "This is very unrealistic".
@ashthetrash3197
@ashthetrash3197 Жыл бұрын
When did he say it was unrealistic?
@theelectricgigaex5904
@theelectricgigaex5904 Жыл бұрын
True, it’s not like he was trying to go into space, he was going to stop aliens robbing a sorcerer
@TheScarletSlayer
@TheScarletSlayer Жыл бұрын
@@theelectricgigaex5904 I feel like these people would be exempt from most laws when the alternative is let everyone die via space alien invasion.
@JohnDoe-un3xm
@JohnDoe-un3xm Жыл бұрын
fun fact, the movie producers did an amazing job of understanding the law. the government wanted to confiscate his suits in iron man 2: if they were illegal unregistered destructive devices, they would have just taken them, not asked politely for him to turn them over cause "i want it tho". and if he registered them, the US gvmt could just replicate them, since form 2 registration for non-standard NFA items requires schematics
@KamiInValhalla
@KamiInValhalla Жыл бұрын
Another reason they never went for him too hard as he was the only one that could produce and maintain the product. As a result, they were forced to put up with him so that he can make more, maintain the equipment, perform requests for them, and not decide to bounce for more favourable terms. That is why he got away with it.
@SisterCasendra
@SisterCasendra Жыл бұрын
One possible reason why Iron Man doesn't get arrested could be the existence of previous human weapons in the MCU's history. The referenced laws might have been a little different in a world where Captain America is a widely known historical figure and many governments were secretly running other superhumans (Ant Man, Winter Soldier, Red Guardian, Isaiah Bradley, et al.) under the table.
@jostewart3192
@jostewart3192 Жыл бұрын
I agree
@ghost_1176
@ghost_1176 Жыл бұрын
Or It’s because it’s a superhero movie
@AustynSN
@AustynSN Жыл бұрын
DC has made reference to a similar concept in their comics. The one that always stuck out to me is the fact that superheroes can testify in court without giving away their secret identity by claiming fifth amendment protection in regards to said identity.
@monarch614
@monarch614 Жыл бұрын
this feels much more like a classic film theory video, some feel kind of far-fetched but this has a really classic vibe about it. editing and all
@dika_hilman
@dika_hilman Жыл бұрын
and that's bad
@rainyday1154
@rainyday1154 Жыл бұрын
His recent theories haven't felt classic, it's nice to see that this one has that vibe but I just don't feel it with his content anymore.
@petelee2477
@petelee2477 Жыл бұрын
6:42 are we just going to go with the fact that he was going die regardless of whether or not he was in space or on earth. Tony's actions did not lead to his death. Thanos was still going to collect the Infinity Stones and Thanos was still going to perform the snap and he was still going to be in the unlucky portion of the population.
@zachmaw
@zachmaw Жыл бұрын
I can't believe I grew up watching MatPat slowly study law.
@0meat
@0meat Жыл бұрын
Slowly is the key word here. Stark Industries clearly has all the permitting it needs to produce the suits and drones. He would clearly have a class 10 federal fireams license. Basically everything firearms or weapons related Matpat complains about is done within the law.
@ValconLight
@ValconLight Жыл бұрын
Poorly
@joshuahallett6235
@joshuahallett6235 Жыл бұрын
The funny thing is all his tech is most likely protected by patterns and permits through his family business, so there's one hurdle; second, he is super wealthy and can most likely buy his way out of most trouble; and finally, if all else fails he has connections that can get him safely off-world to a place where his tech and general brilliance will be respected!
@Amber-tu2jo
@Amber-tu2jo 9 ай бұрын
Imagine that as a bartering chip, "You don't like my tech and how I operate? I'll take it all to some other planet then."
@acrazydurian
@acrazydurian 9 ай бұрын
@@Amber-tu2jo "You are arresting me? Here is my address on Asgard, good luck finding a rainbow bridge."
@novum1568
@novum1568 Жыл бұрын
One thing that’s racked my brain for YEARS was “if deadpool got snapped away in the blip, could his body repair itself?” And following from that, “if his body DID repair, would a second deadpool be brought back when the blip was reversed?”
@Gisaboiad
@Gisaboiad Жыл бұрын
Thats actually an awesome theory!
@Hopalongtom
@Hopalongtom Жыл бұрын
Mutant Powers alone? no it won't be enough, however the varient of him who has been cursed with life so he cannot date lady death, this addition to the powers would have protected him from it!
@bruh1521
@bruh1521 Жыл бұрын
I doubt Deadpools regeneration could stop the snap.
@lorlok623
@lorlok623 Жыл бұрын
deadpool's mutant power alone probably wouldn't protect him from the power of the six infinity stones combined, but if you're going by comic logic, deadpool did have a date with the literal personification of death herself, so he definitely could have survived the snap if death would have protected him
@hanneswiggenhorn2023
@hanneswiggenhorn2023 Жыл бұрын
I think the stones did more than just letting the physical bodies fall into dust, from what I can tell they outright deleted the persons, meaning their soul and everything got destroyed, so even if deadpools body could regenerate, it would probably be liveless/soulless. Also assuming the snap destroys all cells of a human that is snapped away, I don't think you could simply regenerate from that
@LadyMistborn
@LadyMistborn Жыл бұрын
Peter didn't exactly get beat up by Cap, he would've been pulling his punchs so cap wouldn't die, also peters healing factor makes caps look normal
@englishlady9797
@englishlady9797 2 ай бұрын
Yeah that .... doesn't actually make putting him in combat legal. Or taking him across international borders under false pretenses.
@Tpforbunghole
@Tpforbunghole Жыл бұрын
I love how mat still calls them ‘theories’ when at this point they’re just straight up facts 😂
@ChrisSmith-tu9bu
@ChrisSmith-tu9bu Жыл бұрын
I mean yeah factual Iron Man committed upteen crimes and yeah factual in our actual world hed at most have to spend a little time in court
@styfen
@styfen Жыл бұрын
Most of the time they're hypotheses, not facts or theories. Mat has admitted that himself. But Game Hypothesis is not a marketable brand name.
@unkirbyjosuke1904
@unkirbyjosuke1904 Жыл бұрын
​@@styfen I mean, they're closer to theories in the original challenge and it's brand recognition at this point so nothing to really be mad or confused about (not saying that you are any of both but there's not much more discussion)
@colepaten7934
@colepaten7934 Жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, watching all the iron man movies again really made me wonder how Tony got away with all he did, and I’m so glad you covered it here!
@_______-3007
@_______-3007 Жыл бұрын
because he was a hero, yall just looking deep at the negatives, he saved the goddamn universe
@name_1133
@name_1133 Жыл бұрын
Flooded with bots
@gaminganimators7000
@gaminganimators7000 Жыл бұрын
​@@_______-3007didn't stop them from creating the Sokovia thing
@osmosisjones4912
@osmosisjones4912 Жыл бұрын
Here's the full clip : kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3yrdn-gl6ekj8k
@satan3862
@satan3862 Жыл бұрын
​​@@_______-3007 exactly he is earth main defense if they put him in jail earth would be in massive danger just look at what happend when the avengers broke up half of earth basicly died that the canon reason he didn't get jailed they need him and only a delusional idiot would deny that
@alexanderalbuck9125
@alexanderalbuck9125 Жыл бұрын
Although, seems matpat forgot that the senator in charge of the committee hearing also worked for HYDRA. So, the civil forfeiture would be used as a smokescreen to obtain the suits for Dr.Whitehall and Struckers army not the US military.
@Duude1077
@Duude1077 Жыл бұрын
thats intruiging
@SaberBlox-k1y
@SaberBlox-k1y Ай бұрын
It’s so nostalgic to watch an old film theory video when Mat Pat is still the host
@TXDArt_Hollow
@TXDArt_Hollow Жыл бұрын
As always MatPatt breaks my brain with a out of nowhere theory 😂
@eslut
@eslut Жыл бұрын
This isn't a theory is it? he should be in jail, but it's part of his arc, it's not new information.
@regumkoyu6620
@regumkoyu6620 Жыл бұрын
kzbin.infoosX_LGXoTOM?feature=share
@miniman649
@miniman649 Жыл бұрын
if this broke your brain, you clearly never watched MCU. They literally go over this in the movies.
@Darchitexx
@Darchitexx Жыл бұрын
I love how much effort matpat puts into videos
@KingRfm
@KingRfm Жыл бұрын
Matpat give us a total drama theory
@BrandonWestfall
@BrandonWestfall Жыл бұрын
His team*** It's not just him and hasn't been just him for a very long time.
@ebjebj629
@ebjebj629 Жыл бұрын
@@BrandonWestfall finally someone knows that it isnt just matpat making theories
@MrHel-hf3nk
@MrHel-hf3nk Жыл бұрын
Style Theory sucks, tho
@AtenSol12
@AtenSol12 Жыл бұрын
​@@MrHel-hf3nk 😂😂 thats not even a relevant comment
@sanahassib9553
@sanahassib9553 Жыл бұрын
About peter's death, Did Aunt May also get blipped or was it only peter because everyone keeps talks about Tony's grieve and about how peter was the only reason to get him on board with Endgame's plan but what about May who has known peter his entire life? anyway I'd like to think that she was also not there in those 5 years
@EnerPrime
@EnerPrime Жыл бұрын
Yeah, they explicitly say in Far From Home that May was blipped too. Tony was pretty much the only person Peter was close to that didn't get dusted, except maybe Happy. (I don't think it's ever said either way if Happy got blipped.)
@jesuusch
@jesuusch Жыл бұрын
@@EnerPrime Happy didn’t get blipped because in FFH, Aunt May notices he grew a beard and he said that it was his ‘blip beard’, meaning he survived and grew it out
@pepperpeterpiperpickled9805
@pepperpeterpiperpickled9805 Жыл бұрын
I get what youre saying but; > Iron Monger wasnt Tony's fault > Whiplash was avenging his criminal father > the dept of damage control was ensuring no one got a hold of alien tech > He told spider man not to go to space > He told spiderman to "keep his distance and web them up" not to fight them > he decked out spiderman's suit with safety features and kept an eye on him.
@kahlilcrawley5156
@kahlilcrawley5156 Жыл бұрын
All irrelevant
@pepperpeterpiperpickled9805
@pepperpeterpiperpickled9805 Жыл бұрын
@@kahlilcrawley5156 *lights a cigarette, takes a puff, blows smoke in your face* ...wrong. *ashes cigarette in your icecream*
@Optimus_Invictus
@Optimus_Invictus 6 ай бұрын
​@@pepperpeterpiperpickled9805 that ash in the ice cream feels personal lol
@christianmarshal6117
@christianmarshal6117 Жыл бұрын
Aunt May did know that Peter was on some sort of scholarship program with Stark Industries so she may have given consent to go on certain field trips for that… so even though she definitely didn’t know all the details involving what he’d be doing on those trips I think she probably did give his permission to go on them thinking he was probably attending a science fair or something…
@spewter
@spewter Жыл бұрын
In trying to defend Tony, you’ve highlighted that he also deceived Aunt May when he human trafficked Peter to Germany. So let’s add Fraud to the list
@christianmarshal6117
@christianmarshal6117 Жыл бұрын
@@spewter a lie of omission perhaps. She might not have asked what they’d be doing and even if she did Stark could’ve used politician/lawyer talk to tell her the truth but in a way that made us sound more benign. It’s dishonest but it’s a tactic lawyers and politicians use to deceive without lying and thus not be guilty of fraud which is where the term comes from.
@Lady-Seashell-Bikini
@Lady-Seashell-Bikini Жыл бұрын
Which is still trafficking.
@christianmarshal6117
@christianmarshal6117 Жыл бұрын
@@Lady-Seashell-Bikini I didn’t deny that part. I’m just saying the part about Aunt May not giving him permission to go on these “field trips” is unconfirmed.
@therealdaredevil7504
@therealdaredevil7504 Жыл бұрын
This list only accounts for impacts as a direct fall out of Tony Stark, imagine all of the indirect fallout that can be attributed to him as well. Villains like the vulture, Mysterio, the paralysis of war machine, the introduction of the Maximov twins and most obviously Ultron can all be traced back to Tony in some way too.
@Ghillie1212
@Ghillie1212 Жыл бұрын
Mysterio and vulture weren’t even his fault they were just unhinged and used Tony as a scapegoat to justify their villainous actions and I don’t see how war machine’s paralysis is Tony’s fault
@ak-ub1ym
@ak-ub1ym Жыл бұрын
​​​​​@@Ghillie1212 vulture gets a pass cause he was profiting off stolen tech. But come on u can't tell Mysterio wasn't created by Tony Stark , Beck wanted to help ppl overcome their mental trauma with AR/VR tech and Tony who is something of a prominent figure in tech industry in MCU out of spite after seeing his father in his memory projection decides to call the project BARF and destroying whatever potential it had by making it look like a joke and loss of possible investors in the project and canning it due to snowball effect making him a villain.
@Ghillie1212
@Ghillie1212 Жыл бұрын
@@ak-ub1ym I think you missed the part where beck was clearly unhinged from the beginning and Stark noticed beck victimized himself and used Tony as an excuse to start committing crimes
@ak-ub1ym
@ak-ub1ym Жыл бұрын
@@Ghillie1212 yea but So was Eddie Brock in spiderman 3 , Beck/mysterio was created in the same situation which Venom was created under in Spiderman 3 where Peter was equally unhinged after bonding with the symbiote by stealing Eddie's GF and his Job and discredited the guy just cause Eddie stole Peter's Job as a perm photographer before bonding. So do u agree that Peter was partially responsible for creation of venom? Yes / No , is good enough Don't deviate. Tony was also unhinged in his spite and wanted to get back at Beck after the memory so it's not really like it came out of nowhere when 2 unhinged individuals were involved. Since guessing that scene takes place before iron man when Stark Industries was still a Weapons company. .
@grunclestanwannabe367
@grunclestanwannabe367 Жыл бұрын
@@Ghillie1212echnically Vision paralyzed Rhodes... and I'm not sure what vision would be classified as but he is certainly MUCH more than just an AI in a humanoid body, and if Tony is responsible for Rhodes because he created JARVIS and the ultron body than there's implications for every single engineer, scientist etc who's ever had a hand in creating anything, implying they hold some direct responsibility for anything that's ever gone wrong ever.....
@jacearmor5274
@jacearmor5274 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see MatPat continue this for other Marvel heroes.
@Mikepun51
@Mikepun51 Жыл бұрын
If you really think about it, Stark is one of the only heroes to never get arrested or go on the run for their actions.
@joeyaffantranger6888
@joeyaffantranger6888 Жыл бұрын
Matpat, you should make a theory about Luigi's Mansion where he actually is a murderess psycho who kills everybody and that is why there are so many ghosts. And he is thinking he's a good person and try to save his friends, which is why they are in paintings. The paintings are actually the dead bodies of his friends and hallucinations are involved. But that's just a theory!
@ziqi92
@ziqi92 Жыл бұрын
The whole schtick of Phase 3 and onward was addressing the complex legacy Tony had left behind. Poor Spidey had a lot of put up with.
@comicfan1324
@comicfan1324 Жыл бұрын
10:29 Honestly, I would love to see a theory episode about if the Iron Man suits would be plausible in the real world. Don’t know if that would be a style theory or film theory, but either way I’d watch it.
@razamirza5841
@razamirza5841 Жыл бұрын
Probably style theory but idk
@Yukimaru0
@Yukimaru0 Жыл бұрын
They wouldn't. Too heavy, no way to power for any meaningful length of time and no actual lift while in forward motion as the only lifting forces are the thrust generated by the repulsors in his hands and feet and they are always pointed in opposite direction he is moving. This means that during horizontal flight he should just fall out of the sky. Technically he has the one in his chest that would be pointed downward in that position but it's never used for lift in the movies.
@_shadow_1
@_shadow_1 Жыл бұрын
It definitely wouldn't be as compact or elegant looking, but creating a mech suit that can perform some of the feats of the iron man suit in the movies isn't impossible if we had the right technology, the most important of those would be energy storage/generation and huge advancements in ion prolusion size and thrust output.
@_shadow_1
@_shadow_1 Жыл бұрын
@@Yukimaru0 You don't need large flight surfaces at all to provide lift, if he is moving fast enough, the curvature of the earth provides all of the lift he would need because the ground would moving away from him faster than his terminal velocity would be pulling him towards it. Basically if he moves faster than his terminal velocity horizontally, he would effectively get lift, that's why fighter aircraft or mistles don't fall out of the sky like rocks, which they definitely would do if their engines were to cut out.
@passwordprotected5234
@passwordprotected5234 Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the old text style when matpat brings up that this theory is a "theorist classic" it's a nice attention to detail
@J-A-R-C-123
@J-A-R-C-123 9 ай бұрын
Matt needs to do a video about how Spider-Man‘s lawyer is daredevil and how Miles Morales is in the MCU universe because of homecoming
@tonygoodwinjr9293
@tonygoodwinjr9293 Жыл бұрын
Okay, I admit it. For as many amazing breakthroughs he came up with that drove the hero's winning he also committed/created most of the crimes/villains with a grudge against that not only he had to fix but also with help from his friends. In all reality, his whole story seems him making a big mess, then having his friends help clean as well lol
@mohammedrehman514
@mohammedrehman514 Жыл бұрын
That's cause iron man is a MAN, not some godly figure that can do no wrong.
@1994AustinSmith
@1994AustinSmith Жыл бұрын
​​@@mohammedrehman514 And an engineer. Can't build a Vision without cracking a few Ultrons.
@daphnerios5067
@daphnerios5067 11 ай бұрын
@@1994AustinSmith Ultron wasn't even his fault though. Wanda literally got into his mind and manipulated him into taking and using the scepter. She knew this was going to be a harmful action, meanwhile Tony was trying to study the scepter in an attempt to protect the world from the very real threat of Thanos. It wasn't his fault that there was basically an "evil wizard" (Ultron) trapped in the scepter that hacked and misused his stuff. Criticize him for stuff that he actually did wrong.
@shurandygerard8183
@shurandygerard8183 9 ай бұрын
iron man 1: he invented a new rocket for the military then got betrayed by his partner (his fault? maybe sure) iron man 2: ditched the scientist on the roof ( sure that probably was his fault) iron man 3: Villain attacked him because he was iron man ( idk how that's his fault ) Ultron: he did make ultron so i would agree here so whats all the problem tony has created?
@Jynz0
@Jynz0 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly why we loved him, he "wasn't the guy to make the sacrifice play" who made the ultimate sacrifice
@psabt10081
@psabt10081 Жыл бұрын
He was covered under the Sokovia Accords, gave him a lot of carte blanche
@badongo328
@badongo328 Жыл бұрын
You should also consider his connection to SHIELD. It's highly likely Fury swept most of this under the rug in order to keep Stark in line
@unusualusername8847
@unusualusername8847 Жыл бұрын
Oddly enough, Tony operating the suit while drunk has been a point of issue in the comics. I recall during some incident with Ragnarok, he caught legal backlash post incident for going into battle intoxicated.
@georges2842
@georges2842 Жыл бұрын
"What is legal is not always right." Or, more accurately to what Tony would say, "Come and take it."
@decentkiller1236
@decentkiller1236 Жыл бұрын
4:29 don’t forget his murders
@Baq-yow
@Baq-yow Жыл бұрын
Matpat: Tony Encouraged Peter to do dangerous crime fighting! Tony: just be a friendly neighborhood Spiderman kid
@LawNerdClips
@LawNerdClips Жыл бұрын
Laws that Restrict Arms in any way violate the Second Amendment. I know a lawyer or two who would defend Tony on the Arms crimes. 💪⚖️ For the other crimes though, Tony probably would have to pay a lot of money to handle.
@gammaknight2215
@gammaknight2215 Жыл бұрын
I'm actually very happy you brought up the evil practice of Civil Asset Forfeiture where the govt can take your property without your consent if they even think you've committed a crime or not. Or if they just want to take it. CAF accounts for half of many police departments' budgets and goes completely against property rights.
@blockmc9206
@blockmc9206 9 ай бұрын
think about it. if ultron doesnt come, banner never faces off during thanos andgets transported back to earth by heimdal. If that doesnt happen, thanos goes to earth with no one even knowing he entered or how to potentially stop him. Ultron was right to want to make the earth metal because since metal doesnt live, they cannot be wiped out by the snap, and no matter what thanos did earth could technically still prosper with everyone still there.
@1234JohnstoneStudios
@1234JohnstoneStudios Жыл бұрын
It’s like Vision said in Civil War; ever since Stark announced he was Iron Man, the number of world ending events has increased
@theoc511
@theoc511 Жыл бұрын
TEAM CAP
@montethereal
@montethereal Жыл бұрын
I agree that the glasses tony gave Peter were like guns, but it’s more of like a bodyguard, as they were out to protect him, as Peters identity was exposed so he was probably a target for some people and like popular celebrities, they need bodyguards which usually have firearms which is similar here as there is ai (I don’t know if the ai will reject commands like a reasonable bodygaurd)
@TabbyeLynne
@TabbyeLynne Жыл бұрын
You could also go over all the crimes the characters from the Guardians of the Galaxy are guilty of (The Ravengers alone probably have the equivalent of a dozen lifetimes in accumulative condemneds)
@Xlaeflicks
@Xlaeflicks Жыл бұрын
I mean they’re in space though, it’s more complicated to assume space laws lol
@rainyday1154
@rainyday1154 Жыл бұрын
I mean, they kinda broke out of a Prison so yeah. Same with Tony Stark, the fact of Crime and stuff is kinda built into their characters and their storylines
@Xlaeflicks
@Xlaeflicks Жыл бұрын
@@Memento_Mori3210 yeah because tony breaks earth laws by taking a kid from earth in space, endangering the kid (well technically he doesn’t bring him but u get me). For the guardians tho, they don’t break any earth laws on earth, you’d have to assume what are the laws in space. Also, compared to tony, for the guardians, it’s not a theory anymore, it’s facts, they literally meet in jail lol. They’re very obvious about being criminals, (Rocket basically steals stuff for fun) criminals with a good heart, that’s all.
@petrugalan1
@petrugalan1 6 ай бұрын
After all of that you still cannot put him in jail. He died for the univers. A snap which saved everyone and everything. W vid tho!
@uton5043
@uton5043 Жыл бұрын
BRO THAT TRANSITION FROM CONTRABAND TO ABANDONED AT LIKE 9:36 WAS SO CLEAN
@noahtreptau9725
@noahtreptau9725 9 ай бұрын
Ik righttttttt
@favourphilip4561
@favourphilip4561 Жыл бұрын
Yo editors don’t think we didn’t notice that nice transition in 9:30
@mareofstature
@mareofstature Жыл бұрын
To quote batman "We're all criminals Clark, only difference is you have a boss." The ironic truth is that most superheroes likely belong in jail from various crimes they commit. Vigilantism is a crime, just them assaulting a criminal is crime itself. I like to think that it's the large public support that stays the officials hands in most superhero cases. Can't prosecute someone if no one presses charges or does the arrest.
@10tailedbijuu
@10tailedbijuu Жыл бұрын
also in the worlds with heroes the police are happy for the help!!
@davvaz62
@davvaz62 Жыл бұрын
3:49 Just after this video was uploaded, Governor Ron DeSantis just legalized concealed carrying a firearm without a license. Yipee
@TheEldritchVoid
@TheEldritchVoid Жыл бұрын
With Tony working for the DoD and being a military contractor he does get some freedom from like half of that list as well as being friends with a couple Senators from those days
@sugarclouds2884
@sugarclouds2884 Жыл бұрын
Film, Game, Food and now Style theory?! Matpat’s consistency is impressive
@alphathesupreme2238
@alphathesupreme2238 Жыл бұрын
Yeah you are both
@11kele
@11kele Жыл бұрын
Great theory, as always. Considering the fact that the MCU has all kinds of super men and women, super weapons, aliens and exotic materials, Tony is not so bad comparing to the other...
@katherinemcdaniel8676
@katherinemcdaniel8676 Жыл бұрын
My son said that shield is part of the government and has "authorized" all of Tony's actions. So this negates anything as illegal. I asked why scott Lang got additional probation for his actions in Germany, he said that Scott wasn't on Tony's side, he was there for Captain America, so it wasn't authorized by Shield. Shield wouldn't press charges for Tony's hacking so that takes care of that. As far as the illegal explosive devices, you have to prove it, soooooo, Tony is scot free. Scott is not free. Yeah for big government.
@c_titan
@c_titan Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be cool if this was a mini KZbin series? Where Team Theorist highlight the various crimes movie characters have commited?
@segasdreamer
@segasdreamer Жыл бұрын
Don't forget in Iron Man 2, Pepper's on the phone complaining that Tony's trademarked suit and the technology within it was taken without a warrant or arrest or seizure. Rhodes didn't have a warrant of seizure with him. If Tony wanted to, he could've taken the case to a federal court for violating his Constitutional rights. Furthermore, because the Air Force modified the suit using a third party contractor, Hammer Industries, he could sue for disclosing everything about the suit and it's software. I Iron Man 2, Tony held a lot of cards, but let it slide because SHIELD was working with him. SHIELD was the reason none of these charges came to light and it was them that kept the government from owing reparations from theft, damage from illegal seizure, revealing corporate secrets to a rival company, and endangering lives at the Stark Expo because they allowed said rival company to modify said trademarked suit. And that's just the second movie.
@TeachMeBert
@TeachMeBert Жыл бұрын
*(**6:30**)* Peter didn't die (get dusted) because he was fighting Thanos. That would have happened regardless of if he was out in space, or sitting on his couch at home.
@holahola-ym1xv
@holahola-ym1xv Жыл бұрын
he still put him in danger even if he wasn't snapped thanos may have been ruthless and killed peter thought he told peter that it was dangerous and tried to send him back but capitan america civil war
@Galaxxymeeps
@Galaxxymeeps 2 ай бұрын
i feel like peter dying isn’t really starks fault because even if he wasn’t in space the snap was universal so no matter where he is or what he’s doing he would have still had that same chance of dying but that wouldn’t be tony’s fault would it?
@ahmed4363
@ahmed4363 Жыл бұрын
2:39 i love the fact that they used the old theory font
@marcosolivarria9770
@marcosolivarria9770 Жыл бұрын
I think the films directly state that every action he takes after Civil War is sanctioned by the Sokovia Accords, except of course when he goes behind their back.
@matthewpatrick7263
@matthewpatrick7263 Жыл бұрын
Being a SHIELD consultant and later signer of the Sokovia accords would probably have cleared him of many of those crimes. Not to mention all the bribes flying around...
@samroyale987
@samroyale987 11 ай бұрын
Just imagine Illegally going to space, returning after some years only to go to jail.
@Lolo_225
@Lolo_225 Жыл бұрын
To be fair when Peter died in space he did tag along against Tony’s will.
@tenimeartstudios
@tenimeartstudios Жыл бұрын
You realize based on how Thanos claims his snap works, Peter would've been dusted literally wherever he would've been?
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