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gollum - aegeri
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Gollum - Anthony Catillaz
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Gollum - Painted Dragon Studios
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Gollum Flees the Elves of Mirkwood - John Howe
Dale - Matthew Stewart
Gollum - Alan Lee
Lurking Visitor - Ralph Damiani
Sauron - Rise to War
Gandalf the Grey - Elrodimus Flash
lord of the rings - the white council
Legolas and Gandalf - Catherine Karina Chmiel
aragorn meets arwen - merlkir
gandalf - John Howe
Bilbo Reading - Matthew Stewart
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Gandalf - Catherine Karina Chmiel
Frodo grieves for Bilbo - Anke Eissmann
gandalf the grey - Jerry Vanderstelt
Gandalf portrait - Painted Dragon Studios
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A Ranger of the North - Anna Kulisz
The Shire - Painted Dragon Studios
Bag End - Jerry Vanderstelt
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Saruman The Ringmaker - Ralph Damiani
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The One Ring - John Howe
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Foundations of Barad-dur - John Howe
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sauron army - Wētā
Gollum - Matthew Stewart
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@NerdoftheRings
@NerdoftheRings Ай бұрын
Are you looking forward to The Hunt for Gollum film? What do you think they will use from this book story?
@Generalphoenix8438
@Generalphoenix8438 Ай бұрын
I only hope they don't change too much and respect the books. Though the hobbit did change things they did want 3 films thus had more room to add things such as lake town. I would hope they keep this respect and don't do any modern things if swapping characters and forcing a message.
@tonypapas9854
@tonypapas9854 Ай бұрын
Peter Jackson and Co. are fantastic, but 2 movies?! Maybe 1. So many more interesting subjects.
@bash_maxwell
@bash_maxwell Ай бұрын
I absolutely hate this idea. It's not a story worth telling and would not fit in with the LOTR movies we have already. By the way, wondering if you are aware of all these AI-assisted channels popping up doing lore videos of all kinds? I keep seeing Tolkien related ones especially. They invariably suck; thanks for doing what you do for real!
@ayseturkoglu1061
@ayseturkoglu1061 Ай бұрын
I just don’t understand why they chose this story rather than the ones fans have been dreaming of seeing for years. I don’t think it’s definitely going to be bad but I’m not actively excited either.
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil Ай бұрын
Could you please give us the source(s) of the story. I have read Appendix B and a lot of HoME, but I have never heard or read some of the things you said.🙏
@LightsCameraJake
@LightsCameraJake Ай бұрын
Remember in the first movie when Gandalf said after he returned to Frodo "II looked everywhere for the creature Gollum, but the enemy seems to have found him first" I had no idea there was a whole ass lore and story there enough to make a movie about it.
@DarkCreed
@DarkCreed Ай бұрын
It's like the Lotr version of the Death Star plans
@LightsCameraJake
@LightsCameraJake Ай бұрын
@@DarkCreed cool analogy lol
@WesleyNiman
@WesleyNiman Ай бұрын
There isn't lol. It was like one paragraph in the book.
@wellington66440
@wellington66440 Ай бұрын
well, there isn't. just cash grab like the hobbit which is a kid's book and they make 3 effing long movies about it.
@LightsCameraJake
@LightsCameraJake Ай бұрын
@wellington66440 Lord of the rings was also a cash grab, how dare they use the books to make money in movie form. God people like you are pathetic.
@SunnyLovetts
@SunnyLovetts Ай бұрын
Woah I didn’t know Gollum ate human babies at one point. That makes him an even more demented character than I first thought! 😨
@Generalphoenix8438
@Generalphoenix8438 Ай бұрын
Yep I learned this long ago and shows how corrupt and wicked he truly is even to the most innocent of life.
@barryhill2836
@barryhill2836 Ай бұрын
It was in the book being recounted by gandalf to frodo it was super haunting. Forgot the exact wording but he said something like he broke I to windows to find cradles.
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil Ай бұрын
Think of all the other options he had for food, including the local fish market. Killing and eating babies was pure evil.
@Generalphoenix8438
@Generalphoenix8438 Ай бұрын
@@barryhill2836 that's actually correct the wording. He would hunt birds in nests and find cradles whilst in the woods and close to homes.
@Generalphoenix8438
@Generalphoenix8438 Ай бұрын
@@Enerdhil showing how a once hobbit became no more or less than a evil feral beast that spoke. Nothing is safe from its starvation when it demands a meal.
@ethsch13
@ethsch13 Ай бұрын
Aragorn’s journey including the descendants of Beorn, Dol Guldur, and Thranduil sounds like a really cool way to bridge the Hobbit films and the LOTR trilogy even further. This could be a really cool addition to the movie canon, I think. 👀
@amadeobagacay2202
@amadeobagacay2202 Ай бұрын
and this could be like "Rogue One: A Star Wars story" 🙂🙂🙂
@ethsch13
@ethsch13 Ай бұрын
@@amadeobagacay2202Yeah, leading right into the films, could be pretty sick.
@rand0m508
@rand0m508 Ай бұрын
At that point the "hunt" for Gollum was already over though. Seems like the uncertainty of catching him will have to be the main source of suspense, no?
@sadenb
@sadenb Ай бұрын
This should have been the third movie that should have bridged Hobbit and LOTR. And the Hobbit should have remained two movies with events from just the hobbit.
@bkbstone
@bkbstone Ай бұрын
@@ethsch13 Gollum's escape is why Thranduil sent Legolas to Rivendell, and why Legolas was present at Elrond's council: to bring the news that Gollum had escaped.
@jaimy_games
@jaimy_games Ай бұрын
Remember the whining from Gollum in Emyn Muil with Frodo and Sam for 10 minutes about getting dragged along? Now imagine that for 50 days over 900 miles.... the horror! There is a fan-made movie (from 2009) named The Hunt for Gollum if anyone is interested. Anyway, thank you for the video again.
@HobbyMedic
@HobbyMedic Ай бұрын
At first I was underwhelmed but the ideas of seeing Sauron question gollum, Younger Aragorn meeting Gandalf, Aragorn sneaking around the borders of Mordor, Aragorn finding the location of Isildors death and then meeting Thraduil. Seeing the woodland realm fight on their home turf…. So many cool possibilities
@tyree9055
@tyree9055 Ай бұрын
I don't see anyone doing a better job than Cate as Galadriel. That backhand she gave to Gandalf's jailor still hurts to this day, and even Sauron sounded like a woos when she showed him the light! 😂
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil Ай бұрын
I don't think that was what Tolkien had in mind when he said Galadriel cast down Dol Guldor.
@LayllasLocker
@LayllasLocker Ай бұрын
Cate with her deep voice and timeless beauty was a perfect Galadriel.
@innocentBystander19
@innocentBystander19 Ай бұрын
I don’t think they’ll have the balls to do the baby thing. I think you’ll see Gollum over a crib, see Sméagol take over and be playing with the cute elf baby, and an adult elf will arrive and make the worst assumption.
@BFMert
@BFMert Ай бұрын
I cant tell you enough how much i appriciate your explanation way of using the map and events/travels on it using character icons, makes it so understandable and fun
@Erichwanh
@Erichwanh Ай бұрын
The extended cut of the movie is going to be 14 hours of Gollum just eating fish. And occasionally a baby. But mostly fish.
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil Ай бұрын
"Munchy crunchy, squishy fishies"
@Tawadeb
@Tawadeb Ай бұрын
I have more faith in Serkis/Walsh/Jackson/Boyens
@LadyhawksLairDotCom
@LadyhawksLairDotCom Ай бұрын
No birdses? No crunchable birdses?
@misterhoobomaster
@misterhoobomaster Ай бұрын
I had no idea Aragorn "knew" Gollum THIS well before the movies. Thanks for the info!
@brettdowns277
@brettdowns277 Ай бұрын
Take it you not read the books. Go explore them pal you won't be disappointed
@misterhoobomaster
@misterhoobomaster Ай бұрын
@@brettdowns277 I don't no. I've seen the movies etc 100 times + followed this channel for like hundreds of videos but didn't know that part very well. I'm not much of a book reader sadly but if I would start it would 100% be with Tolkiens work.
@Alexs.2599
@Alexs.2599 Ай бұрын
Yes in the Council of Elrond chapter in the LOFTR book Aragorn mentions his long trek in searching for Gollum, I highly recommend you read the book.
@Alexs.2599
@Alexs.2599 Ай бұрын
@@misterhoobomaster Trust me you will enjoy it. If you want to of course.
@erickhart8046
@erickhart8046 Ай бұрын
​@@misterhoobomasterI'd recommend the audio books too if you cant do the physical copies it's an excellent read.😊
@corgeousgeorge
@corgeousgeorge Ай бұрын
I appreciate this channel so much in that you do character markers on maps and then move them around as they move around middle earth doing whatever they are doing. As a person with TERRIBLE directional sense, it is such a great addition to the content to keep me engaged and feel a part of the community.
@rebekahv5185
@rebekahv5185 Ай бұрын
DITTO! Although I have fairly good navigational skills, I very much enjoy maps. I think your use of them in telling your tales is fantastic!
@josephsdsu1
@josephsdsu1 Ай бұрын
For those interested in Gollum the baby eater: the speaker is Gandalf, and he's speaking to Frodo in Bag End (Chapter II, The Shadow of the Past): "The Woodmen said that there was some new terror abroad, a ghost that drank blood. It climbed trees to find nests, it crept into holes to find the young; it slipped through windows to find cradles."
@mrBluesky1986
@mrBluesky1986 Ай бұрын
Well thats not haunting at all.
@heiker1351
@heiker1351 Ай бұрын
This sounds exactly like Voldemort. 😂
@kalmarfanatic04
@kalmarfanatic04 Ай бұрын
​@@heiker1351🤣🤣🤣
@Cadence733
@Cadence733 Ай бұрын
10:53 that'd be beautiful in the film if they showed them both going through that area. Aragorn remembering the death of his forebear and the power of the ring over him and Gollum remembering his old life and how he got the ring. Tolkein was such a good writer to include this little nugget!
@scooterdtx
@scooterdtx Ай бұрын
Was happy at the news of this film, but a 15-minute video with terrific art work, narration and maps has covered the subject very well. Still, when the film is released, I'll be there. 🤞
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil Ай бұрын
Especially the Maps.👍😁
@UnicornLyndseyS
@UnicornLyndseyS Ай бұрын
That’s what I was thinking.. not a lot of material. Hopefully it won’t be like the Hobbit films with a lot of filler
@jameshoffa7085
@jameshoffa7085 Ай бұрын
You could summarize the Lord of the Rings in minutes too, doesn't mean the movies aren't worth watching.
@mordorobsidian
@mordorobsidian Ай бұрын
@@Enerdhil I would love to find more information about that detailed map that's in color. I wonder if it exists, or if it's just a graphic used for videos.
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil Ай бұрын
@@mordorobsidian There are some map makers that will make maps of Middle Earth, Numenor, or Aman and sell them. I got The Atlas of Middle Earth by Karen Wynn Fonstad. Then I made copies of various pages and stuck them in my books. Without those cut up maps, I don't think I could have read as much of Tolkien's writings as I have. I think that to have an aesthetically pleasing map would be nice, but I prefer practical maps that help me visualize where everyone is in the story.
@scottclark1839
@scottclark1839 Ай бұрын
This is such a wonderful story in so many ways. It makes someone who appreciates Tolkien's genius all the more thankful.
@TarMody
@TarMody Ай бұрын
The most critical point in this story is that Gollum retreats southwards, towards Mordor. Sauron's revelation at Dol Guldur causes the One Ring to awaken and desire to return to its owner. This is why the One Ring abandoned Gollum. In this parallel, the change created by the One Ring in Gollum's soul causes him to be drawn to Sauron's will (just like the One Ring trying to return to its owner, Sauron), and therefore to turn to Mordor. This is a good example of the nature of the One Ring and the metaphysics of its effect on the souls of incarnate beings.
@TusharHalder-jw7ds
@TusharHalder-jw7ds Ай бұрын
I bet the next film would be something like "The War of the North" after the battle for Dale and Erabor in War of the Ring
@RooftopKorean917
@RooftopKorean917 Ай бұрын
Not gonna lie that movie would go so hard
@tdubya75
@tdubya75 Ай бұрын
I wish they would make a film on Erebor and Dale during the war. They could constantly reference the first trilogy without having to show any of the characters.
@dlxmarks
@dlxmarks Ай бұрын
That would have been an impossible sell to the studios. No known characters except for some of the dwarves from Thorin's company whom audiences wouldn't remember. And I think they'd get hung up on no hobbits in the story.
@kpopalldaykdramaallnight1605
@kpopalldaykdramaallnight1605 Ай бұрын
I want a whole movie or book abt battles of Witch King so damn bad. But that would be good thought
@DavidPrice-ml2zv
@DavidPrice-ml2zv Ай бұрын
I really hope that’s what the second movie is! We could have Thranduil, Dain Ironfoot, Galadriel and Celeborn in it
@AaronLongArt
@AaronLongArt Ай бұрын
It was really cool to see a few of my paintings included in your video!! 😄 Thank you so much! 🙏
@Christohh
@Christohh Ай бұрын
Did not expect a video today, nonetheless it is much appreciated. Your dedication to getting these videos out for us are much appreciated
@NerdoftheRings
@NerdoftheRings Ай бұрын
I drop a vid every Saturday, so we are here on the regular! :) Thanks so much for watching!
@Christohh
@Christohh Ай бұрын
@@NerdoftheRings nice, so happy to have found your channel. Will be here every Saturday for the foreseeable future !
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil Ай бұрын
​@@Christohh Don't forget to subscribe and hit the 👍
@barryhill2836
@barryhill2836 Ай бұрын
It's really fascinating to point out that Sauron, a physical 9 fingered being, existed in the lord of the rings. He wasn't just some fiery spirit in the form of an eye. It'd be terrifying to see him in this new production!
@tevildo45
@tevildo45 Ай бұрын
It was Jackson that made him into a giant eye so it’ll be interesting to see if they show Sauron. I bet they won’t
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil Ай бұрын
Peter Jackson should be great at producing this horror scene.
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil Ай бұрын
​@@tevildo45 They have to show Sauron and they will and he won't be a flowing fiery eye either.
@shinjukucalling763
@shinjukucalling763 Ай бұрын
​@@Enerdhilwhy would he make his own movies now not make sense by doing so?
@kleptosepto1848
@kleptosepto1848 Ай бұрын
Sauron was never an eye. that was jackson
@luudest
@luudest Ай бұрын
1:41 Thrilling that Gollum learned about the Shire in Dale and that that information was revealed to Sauron in Mordor.
@Carlo_ReNews
@Carlo_ReNews Ай бұрын
I remember reading this section as a child and thinking: „Man why did they never show this in the films!“ As an adult I will finally be satisfied
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil Ай бұрын
Sorry, but I put Tom Bombadil and Goldberry plus the Barrow Wights way ahead of Gollum's back story.
@Carlo_ReNews
@Carlo_ReNews Ай бұрын
@@Enerdhil yeah sure but it would be kind of weird to make a movie out of it
@istari0
@istari0 Ай бұрын
@@Enerdhil And the Scouring of the Shire.
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil Ай бұрын
​@@Carlo_ReNews True
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil Ай бұрын
​@@istari0 Definitely. The Scouring of the Shire would have made a perfect 4th movie all by itself. Too long to be included in the special edition DVD box set. 😞
@johnbell7235
@johnbell7235 Ай бұрын
In the future, he'll be sitting at the black gate, watching everything crumble to ruins after the destruction of the ring, and he'll think "I'd still rather do this again than travel with Gollum.".
@Guayabaman305
@Guayabaman305 Ай бұрын
This story is so good. I think there is definitely enough story here to put it to film. Cautiously excited to see how it turns out!
@huntman834
@huntman834 26 күн бұрын
Guys, hear me out. The Silmarillion as a TV show. Each episode is a chapter. Buuuut, the episodes are not in chronological order for story telling purposes
@flightlesslord2688
@flightlesslord2688 Ай бұрын
So, Aragorn knew so much of Gollum and seemingly he is the reason Gollum knows the way through Emyn Muil. Sounds like it might actually be an awesome film
@TheGeekMonster
@TheGeekMonster Ай бұрын
An excellent video! You do such good, solid research, and present these stories in a well-spoken and easy-to-understand manner. It's just amazing how much behind-the-scenes action is always happening with Tolkien's world, and how he kept it all straight in his head, I will never know!
@rpm773
@rpm773 Ай бұрын
The production quality of these videos is just fantastic - thanks!
@colinbaldwin313
@colinbaldwin313 Ай бұрын
It's so easy to lose touch with the huge time frame in which all these events occur. In the film trilogy, of course, the only reference to events during the hunt for Gollum is his capture, torture, and release by Sauron. And nobody who's only seen the films can appreciate that 17 years pass between Bilbo's 111th birthday and Gandalf's apprising Frodo of the One Ring. I'm excited to see the true scope and complexity of this period fleshed out in the upcoming film.
@Lemmelleni
@Lemmelleni Ай бұрын
I wonder who they're gonna cast, because these actors who played these roles are so iconic...
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil Ай бұрын
Peter Jackson might have to produce a film that doesn't violate Warner Brothers' DEI policy, IF they have one. We could see another Tauriel come out of nowhere and play a major role.😞
@Lemmelleni
@Lemmelleni Ай бұрын
​@@EnerdhilI think it will be either a hit or a miss, with no in between. If WB is smart, they should respect Tolkien's work and avoid pushing any agendas in the film which will only work against the majority of the fanbase... which happened in The Hobbit to an extent. But ngl if you compare The Hobbit to nowadays thrash they're actually very good movies 🤣
@MrChrisEaton
@MrChrisEaton Ай бұрын
CGI faces, like Star Wars did?
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil Ай бұрын
I agree, a hit or miss.
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil Ай бұрын
​@@MrChrisEaton I hope not.🙏🤞
@Loreweavver
@Loreweavver Ай бұрын
Blockbuster summer movie about the cannibalistic baby snatcher that even orcs and goblins fear. It's a bold move.
@joonswhatever7262
@joonswhatever7262 Ай бұрын
A movie focusing on Aragorn and some of his travels prior to lotr sounds pretty fabulous. Lots of potential here. Wonder who they're gonna find to play the part.
@tylerpifer5966
@tylerpifer5966 Ай бұрын
Viggo is still strong possibility.
@KungFuRandur
@KungFuRandur Ай бұрын
if aragorn isn't played by viggo, i can't take that movie seriously. Thanks to modern software and good makeup artists, they can make him look young.
@sudarshan273
@sudarshan273 Ай бұрын
Timothee Chalamet 😂
@elishateegardin
@elishateegardin Ай бұрын
Viggo won't do it. He doesn't really want anything to do with Aragorn as of late.
@sayerslayer1854
@sayerslayer1854 Ай бұрын
​@@elishateegardinas of late?
@TexasTimeLord
@TexasTimeLord Ай бұрын
I still find it amazing that Gandalf did not have Elrond look at Bilbo's Ring when they stopped in Rivendell on their way back to the Shire from the Lonely Mountain
@rikk319
@rikk319 Ай бұрын
At that time Tolkien had not written LotR yet, so it was simply a magic ring of invisibility.
@tboyer86
@tboyer86 Ай бұрын
I have no idea how they are going to make this into a movie, but I'm excited to find out.
@procrastinator9
@procrastinator9 Ай бұрын
Thanks, Debbie. Also, this obscure chapter gives credence to Gandalf's remonstrance about keeping Gollum alive. Truly, the little creeper had a knack that bodes for a pertinent role later. For good or ill.
@Carlo_ReNews
@Carlo_ReNews Ай бұрын
Happy Birthday to Sir Ian McKellen! My He Play Gandalf in this movie for one last time.
@bighand1530
@bighand1530 Ай бұрын
Ian McKellen is 85 years old now.
@jameshoffa7085
@jameshoffa7085 Ай бұрын
He was great as Dumbledore
@MatthewPreston-el3cq
@MatthewPreston-el3cq Ай бұрын
The green-screen prison of The Hobbit broke his spirit. He is done.
@Carlo_ReNews
@Carlo_ReNews Ай бұрын
@@MatthewPreston-el3cq Nah man i think McKellen would still come back to this world if he had the opportunity
@bighand1530
@bighand1530 Ай бұрын
@@jameshoffa7085 He didn’t play Dumbledore.
@paladinbob1236
@paladinbob1236 Ай бұрын
news about this has been the best news this year all round i think....additionally the fact that the old fan made version is now back on youtube equally is good news :)
@StephanePoirierGaming
@StephanePoirierGaming Ай бұрын
02:00 A friend of mine used this as the basic plot for a Tolkien roleplay campaign. Alas we lost Gollum at the Ford on the Anduin where he went East towards Mordor only to be captured and the party split up. The elf returned to Mirkwood and the Human went to the white city to save Denator who was a man in his late twenties or early thirties, more like Boromir than the wretch he would become using the Palanthir. Unfortunately that is where we stopped. My GM was not known for his endurance.
@MythicTales993
@MythicTales993 Ай бұрын
I love how your video presents fresh insights on this subject. It's both enlightening and thought-provoking.
@GrampaGabe
@GrampaGabe Ай бұрын
Cant wait, really hope we get to see Grimbeorn and the beornings make an appearance.
@RBRN_69
@RBRN_69 Ай бұрын
Looking forward to seeing what Andy Serkis will do with this. He hasn’t let us down yet have great faith in this
@valentinkambushev4968
@valentinkambushev4968 Ай бұрын
He will probably be the only good thing about this movie.
@RBRN_69
@RBRN_69 Ай бұрын
@@valentinkambushev4968 toughen up bud have faith
@louise.4748
@louise.4748 Ай бұрын
Now I understand the expression of gandalf in lotr, when he said to frodo "that's gollum", with that stonecold and fucked up face, as he was looking for him for years and now he's following them
@kanealoha
@kanealoha Ай бұрын
Wow - I never really knew that whole story. Thanks for putting it together for us!
@KangaRooTube
@KangaRooTube Ай бұрын
I really want to see Gollum refusing to come down from the tree.
@cloudyun85
@cloudyun85 Ай бұрын
The Gollum torture seen may be difficult to watch. Can't wait for this film though, an overlooked part of the story.
@Techgnome21
@Techgnome21 Ай бұрын
There's already so much negativity circulating about this movie. I for one am happy to see this integral part,of the story of the one ring, making its way to the big screen!!
@j-dmachado4349
@j-dmachado4349 Ай бұрын
I’ll admit, there’s even more rich material the adaptation could use than I remembered! I can particularly imagine a very poignant opportunity for character exploration in the Gladden fields, with Aragorn and Gollum each considering its place in their deep pasts 🤔
@Yojimbo825
@Yojimbo825 Ай бұрын
Excited to meet Serkis next month. Hope he does very well!
@Costaricanbooty
@Costaricanbooty Ай бұрын
Where at?
@TiagoRamosVideos
@TiagoRamosVideos Ай бұрын
Great video, thanks 🙏 I didn't know there were so many adventures about Gollum's search! I'm very much looking forward to seeing it 👌
@Nico6th
@Nico6th Ай бұрын
Just today I read a new article (more a news tweet, I guess) about how the War of the Rohirim movie looks "too much like anime" and "too different from the old animated LotR movie". All I can say: those pictures look great! The characters look like they were designed/drawn for an adult audience, with enough facial expressions and enough details to make for a serious movie and not a child-friendly cartoon.
@rld9429
@rld9429 Ай бұрын
Several years ago, not sure how many, there was a fan made film called the Hunt for Gollum. It was about 30 minutes long. Was not bad from what I remember.
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil Ай бұрын
Yes, someone on this board posted a link to the film and so I watched it. It is extremely well-made. The budget was just a couple thousand dollars because everyone loved Tolkien and volunteered their expertise. Of course it is not strictly accurate to the lore because of time compression, but they were able to keep the essence of Middle Earth and Tolkien's characters intact. The dialogues were soooo much better than TRoP. The fight scenes were fabulous. Every RoP fight scene sucked big time. Their fight-scene choreographers must have been trans male or female. There is no other explanation for their amateur-look.
@justinbell2166
@justinbell2166 Ай бұрын
Yea, WB sent a take down thing of it so they could make this movie
@fadlibahrian6012
@fadlibahrian6012 Ай бұрын
I think it will give more depth and new interaction between aragorn and gollum because its a loong journey.
@SNWWRNNG
@SNWWRNNG Ай бұрын
Gandalf did not believe that Bilbo had a lesser ring. It's an easy explanation for why Gandalf waited so long which is why it keeps spreading (I posted a similar comment to this one on the "When did Gandalf know Bilbo had The One Ring?" video from January 2023), but it plainly contradicts Book I Chapter 2. "‘When did I first begin to guess?’ he mused, searching back in memory. ‘Let me see - it was in the year that the White Council drove the Dark Power from Mirkwood, just before the Battle of Five Armies, that Bilbo found his ring. A shadow fell on my heart then, though I did not know yet what I feared. I wondered often how Gollum came by a Great Ring, as plainly it was - that at least was clear from the first. Then I heard Bilbo’s strange story of how he had ‘‘won’’ it, and I could not believe it." Gandalf knows it's one of the Great Rings *before* he even heard Bilbo's lie about how he acquired it. The actual explanation for Gandalf not believing it's the One Ring until Bilbo's birthday party is probably a mix of Gandalf being busy with other things, a lack of certain knowledge about the Rings of Power (Gandalf had to track down sources and couldn't trust them to be correct or complete), and Saruman using his voice and authority to convince Gandalf that the One Ring had been washed out into the sea.
@avideomakr
@avideomakr Ай бұрын
Wow. There's alot of story that can be told in the two part film. Looking forward to it.
@Machina_EX_Machina
@Machina_EX_Machina Ай бұрын
Love these lore videos, keep it up!
@rickthe533
@rickthe533 Ай бұрын
The hunt for Gollum was a few paragraphs in the novels now it's gonna be a movie...wild
@gianturtlecow1455
@gianturtlecow1455 Ай бұрын
I love your content and its great to hear this story in its full state. I'm worried this is also going to wind up as a standard to measure how far off the movie winds up being from the actual story lol, hopefully Jackson can keep things reigned in better than the hobbit movies.
@thebrowneyesofmandalore
@thebrowneyesofmandalore Ай бұрын
It’d be interesting to see if they use Legolas as one of the Elves hunting Gollum through Mirkwood as he would be around then.
@jaknyfedave
@jaknyfedave Ай бұрын
I'm not well versed with the LOTR books, but this superb channel always gets me clued up in a very insightful and entertaining way. Really good work!
@sonjiaasana
@sonjiaasana Ай бұрын
Currently being in the process of finally reading all of Tolkien's work and having just finished The Fellowship of the Ring, I was rather disappointed when I found out that the future movie would be about this part that was merely given a short account of by Gandlaf during Elrond's Council. The amount of lore and details you managed to provide from this little account is getting me super hyped for the movie, I hadn't realized it provided so rich a lore. Thank you for another epic video.
@pirate4460
@pirate4460 Ай бұрын
A Gandalf + Aragorn TV episodic series taking place between 3001 and 3008 where they travel from town to town, solving problems and getting in fights with an overarching plot of hunting gollum would be cool.
@stitchin4fun
@stitchin4fun Ай бұрын
I love all of the art that you use in your videos!
@colinecharpy1617
@colinecharpy1617 Ай бұрын
Love your videos! Would you do a video for the full travels of Gollum ?
@jeremydaoud6792
@jeremydaoud6792 Ай бұрын
this is gonna be such a good movie
@MorganWood86
@MorganWood86 Ай бұрын
Anyone remember the 2009 fan film "The Hunt for Gollum"?
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil Ай бұрын
Just watched it for the first time along with a "Making-of" the Hunt for Gollum. Both were fantastic. Of course they had to change the sequence of events in order to compress the timeline, but they did it in a way to incorporate a lot of the lore they compressed. The dialogues are far ahead of anything that Payne or McKay could come up with. Everything looked and felt like Middle Earth.
@ULTIMAFAX
@ULTIMAFAX Ай бұрын
"Lurking Visitor" that is a truly horrifying image, one I have never had in reading the book
@Tawadeb
@Tawadeb Ай бұрын
Looking forward to another film from a wonderful team !!
@mon_moi
@mon_moi Ай бұрын
Glad to see a channel covering and appreciating Tolkien's own writings specifically without jumping on the "Hollywood bad 😡" train. I'm still cautious about the quality of the film but as long as it doesn't get stretched out into 2 hrs of dumb fight scenes I have no issues. Heck I'll be happy to see Thranduil, Celeborn, young Denethor, more skin-changers, etc make reappearances. Besides we still have War of the Rohirrim to look forward to this year
@valentinkambushev4968
@valentinkambushev4968 Ай бұрын
You can't blame people for jumping on the hate train. I myself have little hope in this project and have already prepared myself for disappointment.
@mon_moi
@mon_moi Ай бұрын
@@valentinkambushev4968 I wasn't blaming anyone
@SeanCSHConsulting
@SeanCSHConsulting Ай бұрын
@@valentinkambushev4968 Why not?
@Reality_Checkmate
@Reality_Checkmate Ай бұрын
The video thumbnail looks like Gollum is trying to swallow a summer sausage. He looks just like Kim Kardashian when he does that.
@thevincatYT
@thevincatYT Ай бұрын
I was waiting for this one! So thorough - learned a lot. I made a video breaking down these events myself, but I knew I must’ve missed some lesser known texts. So cool to hear Aragorn’s own account of the hunt!
@dubecheck
@dubecheck Ай бұрын
I have hope because he is getting the reins from the start not being brought in halfway. The Hobbit was fun but it didn't do justice to the book. The Lord of the rings trilogy is fantastic, and it barely scratches the surface of how good the books are,if he treats the hunt for golem with the respect he did with the LOTR trilogy then we should be good.
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil Ай бұрын
That is a big "IF."
@istari0
@istari0 Ай бұрын
I have confidence in Jackson and Co. The real question for me is how the studio behaves. We'll probably get an idea of their take with "War of the Rohirrim" in December.
@mtgemperor
@mtgemperor Ай бұрын
I am shocked that you did not mention the fan-made 2009 film "The Hunt for Gollum". Even so, fantastic video and a solid retelling of the Hunt.
@Tadzioreik
@Tadzioreik Ай бұрын
What for? Lol
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil Ай бұрын
Actually I just watched the "Hunt for Gollum" video and saw the making-of video. I was very impressed. Of course, they had to compress the timeline to make the movie 30-something minutes, but I think they did a convincing job of it. You can tell everyone involved loved Tolkien and freely gave up their time and money to produce the film. I highly recommend every Tolkien aficionado watch it.
@doigt6590
@doigt6590 Ай бұрын
@@Tadzioreik fan made movies of Tolkien's world are often surprisingly well made believe it or not. It's a world out there if you didn't know.
@Tadzioreik
@Tadzioreik Ай бұрын
@@doigt6590 nobody saying the opposite..lol i’ve seen all fan made movies🤣i just don’t understand why should Matt mention it in this video when he already stated its the book version he’s explaining
@doigt6590
@doigt6590 Ай бұрын
@@Tadzioreik because you didn't watch the video that's why. At the beginning he's mentioning a movie in the process of being made.
@Wilkins325
@Wilkins325 Ай бұрын
Thanks for elaborating on this! It was a bit hard to follow the interlacing timelines described at the council of Elrond.
@DummyForceRed
@DummyForceRed Ай бұрын
Brilliant video as always! I loved the fanmade Hunt for Gollum movie. They mentioned the eating babies thing but didn't show it in their version. Somehow I fear that the official movie will show that and I don't know that I can bear it 😱 Gollum freaks me out so bad I don't know how well I can endure a movie with him in so much of it. But at the same time I have so much FOMO I'll definitely want to. 😭
@ZeekTheZack22
@ZeekTheZack22 Ай бұрын
Can't wait to see the new film!! Keep up the good work my dude!
@boffo63
@boffo63 Ай бұрын
"So is there going to be a ring bear at our wedding?" Robin, HIMYM
@user-mc9zc4tf8d
@user-mc9zc4tf8d Ай бұрын
I'm optimisitic about the adaption but I have a sense this was selected as the most marketable storyline, considering the amount of fan favourite characters that could potentially make a return. Not considering just Aragorn, Gandalf and Gollum himself - we could potentially again see Bilbo, Elrond, Thranduil, Beorn, Galadriel, Legolas etc. I have a feeling this could be a connective tissue between both trilogies. I just hope we receive a great story and not too much is shoe horned in to do something like that. For a single film, it's also a lot of area to cover geographically compared to what is covered over 3 films afterwards.
@northlight6759
@northlight6759 Ай бұрын
This was very informative, thanks! I'm not too optimistic about what they'll do with a movie telling of this, but I'm glad to know the canon. It's been way too long since I read the books 😅
@OnlySethDavis
@OnlySethDavis Ай бұрын
I have always wanted a scene of Gandalf interacting with Gollum 😩
@Theseus9-cl7ol
@Theseus9-cl7ol Ай бұрын
Very interesting video, I didn't know about this part of the story. Haven't read the books except the Hobbit (although I have all of them, the Silmarillion, the Histories, all of it). This sheds alot of light on how Gollum ends up in Mordor.
@gusteg83
@gusteg83 Ай бұрын
My Precious
@Garrett-SonofStephen
@Garrett-SonofStephen Ай бұрын
This will be interesting nonetheless to see what they come up with. Next stop though, ROP Season 2 and The War of the Rohirrim.
@emilsazanda
@emilsazanda Ай бұрын
Only War of the Rohirrim for me. I will no longer grace this "adaptation", or rather, abberration with my eyeballs. May Peter and his crew prove their superior worth!😅 12:41
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil Ай бұрын
Yes, apparently in that order.
@tevildo45
@tevildo45 Ай бұрын
The same Peter Jackson that made the hobbit? There’s clearly problems with war of the rohirrm. It’s an anime for a start and it’s all about girlbosses
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil Ай бұрын
@@tevildo45 We don't know clearly what their intentions are for Héra. She may not be a girl-boss. She might just be a fearless, independent, adventurous young woman. Not different from the girls in Hayao Miyazaki movies.
@IOSALive
@IOSALive Ай бұрын
Nerd of the Rings, Subscribed because your videos are so much fun!
@chrismorrison5942
@chrismorrison5942 Ай бұрын
Great Video as always Sir!
@wardemon5933
@wardemon5933 Ай бұрын
Impressive video, thank you very much! ❤
@user-qo8yp7vh4q
@user-qo8yp7vh4q Ай бұрын
What an amazing video and amazing story
@Frilleon
@Frilleon Ай бұрын
Can you link the video that would be next in the series for the lore explanation? I love this explanation and I want to hear the whole story explained in this manner! Thank you so so much.
@chuleta284
@chuleta284 Ай бұрын
Gotta tell you, I love your content!!!
@baystated
@baystated Ай бұрын
Imagine if they end the film with Gollum climbing down the rock face at Emyn Muil.
@sylvanaire
@sylvanaire Ай бұрын
That was a lovely video, thank you for putting the timeline together of what happened. But it seems to me they’re going to have to make up some bits in order to make an exciting movie out of it. I don’t know, I hope they surprise me. 🤷‍♀️😄
@tylerboyce8236
@tylerboyce8236 Ай бұрын
Think this would be cool if this movie somehow bridged and connected to a trilogy about the War in the North during the War of the Ring
@hotgenius100
@hotgenius100 Ай бұрын
Why not a story from the first age? The battle between the elves and Morgoth, the fall of Gondolin, the last battle against morgoth that lasted 40 years, that would be spectacular to watch. Elves + dragons+ the flying ship+ the Morgoth + the other gods... This channel's influence is undeniable at this point.
@simonster-9094
@simonster-9094 Ай бұрын
Because no one has the film rights to The Silmarillion.
@YellowGhost199
@YellowGhost199 Ай бұрын
Can’t wait to see the movies of this.
@paulbrickler
@paulbrickler Ай бұрын
I was not much looking forward to The Hunt for Gollum film, but this video has given me some hope that it will not suck. With Peter Jackson and Andy Serkis being the primary drivers, it will at least be well-performed and visually stunning. Those two really set the standard, really re-invented (or invented) performance capture CGI methods. And PJ in particular has been a real stickler about adhering to the source material, as far as you can be for movie adaptations. So, cautiously, I will wait for the movie with anticipation.
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil Ай бұрын
The CGI/A.I. worries me.😔
@andremestre7443
@andremestre7443 Ай бұрын
Great video! But now I'm thinking this story would be more suited to something like a 6-episode show than a movie. I hope I'm wrong and they nail this in the head.
@thegovernor1146
@thegovernor1146 Ай бұрын
Will be interesting if they have an explanation beyond whats in book 4 for how Gollum got to know Shelob. Fair assumption she isn’t just a base hunter instinct but how would they communicate? Why wouldnt she kill something like Gollum for a snack?
@JMDinOKC
@JMDinOKC Ай бұрын
"Beorn" is Tolkien's Anglicized spelling of "Björn," meaning "bear." Accordingly, it has only one syllable and is pronounced "byorn," not "BEE-orn."
@dolandarkxgrandayy6953
@dolandarkxgrandayy6953 Ай бұрын
I have a feeling Gandalf may have used force during his interrogation of Gollum.
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil Ай бұрын
Yes. Gandalf's temper can be very frightening. He would have gotten sick and tired of Gollum's talking to himself and lying unceasingly. He must have snapped and grabbed by the neck threatening him worse than Sauron did in order to get the same information.
@Dovaclin
@Dovaclin Ай бұрын
Kinda wish they did one of the other books, but I hope it’s good
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