Nerdrotic & Critical Drinker Destroy Disney on Live TV Debate

[@tattooeddragon]

It amazes me how any company is terrified of pissing off the 1% of the “modern audience” yet has absolutely no fear of alienating the 99% of the paying customers that is their fanbase.

[@alexandresobreiramartins9461]

That's because their masters are DEI corporations like Black Rock. They're not scared of the "modern audience", they're scared of losing Blackrock funding.

[@beprf]

Because said companies are either run by or put people in charge that are parte of that 1%.

[@darthgorbag]

@@beprf Ive been trying to tell people for a while (albeit just in comment sections since I don't make videos or use Xwitter) that Bob Iger is the source of the woke corruption in Disney. He is the cancer. As long as Iger is there, the company will only go further into the grave.

[@osmaani2672]

Crazy what you can do with that Blackrock/Vanguard money

[@thelonespacemarine5211]

Well Larry Fink CEO of black rock doesn’t care about how much you lose so long as you bow to his social engineering.

[@Mark-Book]

Great to see Nerdrotic and the Drinker speaking the truth beyond their subscribers.

[@TrooperTalks]

Let's hope Disney can accept that truth sometime soon

[@rocoe9019]

No it's not! They are parasites!

[@alexandresobreiramartins9461]

@@TrooperTalks Nah, never happening. Blackrock has almost unlimited Chinese money.

[@beprf]

To answer the dude at 6:45. The opposite of DEI is faithful representation. Black panther had a black cast because Wakanda is a fictional country in Africa. If you make a movie about say, the trans community, it makes sense that the cast is 80-100% trans. The problem is that they are making movies about the general population or even historical periods and misrepresenting them by either overrepresentating minorities or even "making Cleopatra black". In the end, it simply stops resonating with the general audience, not because they are any -ist or -ism, but because what's on the screen has no relation with their experiences or even with the common conception of events, e.g. I don't care about Cleopatra's skin colour, but if that's changed, then how can I be sure about the veracity of everything else in a so-called documentary?

[@Steril707]

hitting the nail on the head, dear sir... kudos..

[@iTsEfFiNsTePhh]

For sure- don't even get me started on how they made Anne Boleyn black in that garbage insulting "movie" about her 🙄 Fictional is one thing but she and the others they do this to were real people and to change their history and even race to suit your messed up wants is beyond cruel 🙄

[@danielscott8180]

Disney is the king of corporate suicide.

[@charlieparker5977]

That Disney defender was laughably horrible.

[@PTdaMAN]

that guy was pathetic.

[@cybertrophic]

Disney still understands their audience - girls like the fairytale animations, boys like superheroes and star wars. The problem is that their own DEI hires don;t *like* that reality, despite endless research showing that the audience hasn't (and will never) change.

[@000FIRESTORM1989]

Well written film makes money... the audience does not care if the characters are male, female, white, or black.. all the audience wants are a well written, entertaining film.

[@danielscott8180]

If the market is oversaturated with superhero and comic book movies, like the Disney DEI hire says, then why is Deadpool & Wolverine such a massive hit? And why is The Penguin doing so well?

[@TrooperTalks]

That is a great question, I'd love to hear Disney's response to that

[@kellywilson137]

To be fair I went to see Hugh's Wolverine one more time. The movie could have been them both taking a sht and I still would have paid to see it.

[@danielscott8180]

@@kellywilson137 Sure. But the movie is good nonetheless. And you probably feel that way because of how well the characters were written and acted in the past.

[@TeeAiDee]

And why has The Boys and Invincible been so successful?

[@danielscott8180]

@@TeeAiDee Exactly

[@Psylove17]

The Disney guy sure likes his wishful thinking

[@DarthMirasshtar]

Disney went from Mickey to Ratigan.

[@METAL-ADDICT]

Narcissists only know how to write narcissistic characters. That's why the new Ballerina trailer is LOVED. She's a woman who doesn't have to talk down to anyone to feel strong. These wokies only know how to write narcissistic characters period.

[@LordLawwritesforfans]

Disney/ Lucasfilm if you want success with less drama let me pitch my plan and hire me to write stories for movies at Lucasfilm. Have Hope fans!

[@RockRedGenesis]

Always up for Drinker and Gary taking Dismal Disney to task! And it's always fun to see Ester as well in these entertainment debates!

[@sardaukerlegion]

The only "fatigue" is about being pissed of D.E.I.

[@nathanoutdoors7981]

I love critical drinker 👇

[@rocoe9019]

Because you lack intelligence!

[@FireRising86]

@@rocoe9019 No, but you do

[@VizabeeGames]

The contributor who claimed there was sequel fatigue in these sorts of films failed to see the success of the latest Deadpool entry.

[@PTdaMAN]

or even spiderman no way home

[@setlik3gaming80]

Dismal Disney is trash.

[@cybertrophic]

Black Panther was a good film. the sequel bombed hard. Nerdrotic and Drinker: "Disney is hiring people based off of diversity, not talent" Disney: sends a clueless gay black dude to whine about how it's not fair to say their movies are bombing and blames the fandom... They literally just proved the point for the critics by sending the guy to the debate.

[@Doomin-c2m]

Black panther even wasn't anything special, it was basically the same movie as Iron Man from 2008, with minor tweaks. And Ant-Man was also the same movie with the same plot. Like, how many times can you tell the same story an expect it to entertain?

[@PCkiller666]

Watching the downfall of Disney is more entertaining than anything they have produced in the last 5 to 10 years

[@ii3273]

So glad you guys covered this and Disney can’t help but hire activists not real passionate storytellers, they prioritize their message that appeal to certain demographics but in return they suffer financially and they are too prideful to admit when they are wrong.

[@XLR8wuzhere]

Esther didn’t hesitate when she said her piece

[@C280S]

Isnt this an old interview?

[@liamfowell8661]

It's obvious that disney made Black Panther as an excuse to make a film with an all black cast to check that box, but it was a well written, entertaining film and so they've just shot themselves in the foot because they have no argument for pumping s**t out and blaming the audience that didn't like it. There has been plenty of diversity for decades in film and tv, we just don't need beating over the head with it.

[@Mal_Freeman0451]

The crucial point to take away here is that the Disney guy is smiling the whole time in a dismissive way. In other words, they are not here to listen to fans and potentially learn something. They don't believe in market research. They are anti-business, and anti-human.

[@MrTechRat]

Was this the interview from six months ago?

[@bvang0520]

Let's say the guy from Disney is correct. With their marketing experts, why keep making more movies/shows that the market is fatigued over?

[@DVinstapics]

That guy had such a typical response from a Disney DEI representative. The truth is clear and simple, make a good story and you can insert any representation you want. Shogun was phenomenal. Fallout was also diverse and was universally loved. Black Panther was succesful and worked because 1. People loved the character and after it's introduction in civil war there was immense hype 2. It was representative to the culture in that fictional African country, of course it made sense for the cast to be of color, absolutely no one complained about that. It's not rocket science

[@kryzbee1]

Just stumbled across your channel. Love you guys! Keep it up!!

[@MrDunkycraig]

If a story has a message then so be it. You just dont need stories with the message shoved in destroying the story. Disney used to know that

[@Dtitilator]

It's never about "fatigue" it's about telling a good story.

[@RanDAss]

Not only disney but also the western gaming industry..

[@mojorocketman]

Ester Kraku in her own right helped take down Disney by plainly telling the truth about what she likes to see and it's not DEI.

[@Stop_Gooning]

I'm a Moderate Conservative and my favorite musical artists are Immortal Technique and the Wu-Tang Clan; I don't need things to agree with my politics in order to enjoy them... WHEN THEY'RE GOOD!

[@michaelpodlisk5481]

Wu Tang are my favorites ❤️‍🔥 Keep on G 💯

[@edwilloughby7991]

Cheers to you guys, thanks

[@zalamael]

The thing is, they are making these movies awful on purpose. If they were writing entertaining and coherent stories with likeable characters, people would watch the movies, and Disney wouldn't be able to call them bigots. The audience would be proving they don't care about diversity, they care about good stories. But that isn't the narrative Disney wants to create, so they have to make their movies terrible on purpose to push the audience into not watching them, in order to push their divisive political narrative. If all Disney cared about was making money, they would have abandoned this plan years ago when it was proven they were losing money, but instead they care about pushing political narratives far more, to the point of losing money. That is making it harder for them to lie about what they are doing.

[@nathank2289]

When the mcu got started the actors and directors actually read the comics and watched the shows to do research. Ryan was excited about Wolverine Origins because he fell in love with the character. Now Disney hires people who purposely avoid doing research. This is the result

[@iTsEfFiNsTePhh]

Anyone gotta link to the OG video? Tried looking it up on here and online but other then some older videos none of which have all of them just a few or alone I couldn't find anything 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@YoniX50]

Nailed it guys!!!

[@pramitmajumdar9963]

KZbin overlords recommended this channel to me a few minutes ago. I am a simple guy who likes straight to the point content and praise the lord for what you guys are doing. Love from India 🇮🇳.

[@asaka616]

This happened ages ago.

[@ednguyen3822]

Inside Out 2 and Deadpool 3 were huge hits. Disney should examine those films and see what was done differently there…

[@Macielos1]

Great performance by Drinker, Nerdrotic and the other lady, but honesty, the 4vs1 form of debate by Morgan is rather pathetic. The opponent barely had a chance to respond to arguments and was there mostly to be mocked and laughed at (not that he didn't give reasons to, of course).

[@maddercat]

They missed the point that they're taking over existing franchises and race swapping and sex swapping establish characters is not what's working. That's the point that's not how to do diversity.

[@kyordy]

The stormtrooper on the left’s microphone is incredibly painful to listen to. Love how coherent and smoothly y’all speak, wish the audio reflected that.

[@tommy516]

WTF in non-binary about Elemental? It’s literally a love story about a male and female character. It has whole families on both sides, no one is missing a mom or a dad. There is zero wokeness in that movie. In fact it’s one of the best things Disney and Pixar have brought out in a long time.

[@wazzawarrior5715]

Well, Marvel ain’t dead yet, as they have recently begun to turn things around especially with Deadpool and Wolverine and Xmen 97. Sadly can’t say the same for Star Wars, but at least Marvel has admitted that they made mistakes and are actively trying to fix them and have listened to fans.

[@Valehass]

Black Panther was not a good film, the CGI was hot garbage the acting was passable, the main characters story was weak and poorly developed unlike his character in Civil War, the black tribes men wooting like apes was racist but its ok when Disney does it. The reason it made bank is it came off the heels of a massive franchise boost released between Civil War and Infinity war and the manipulation through advertising of the audience by basically saying if you don't go see this film your racist.

[@fernandoquintero7433]

They are great, showing the real thing. Love their channels

[@DanielPang-t9n]

I disagree with Gary and will and the crazy thing is I'm a conservative approving the wokeness that's going.

[@MichaelDropp-v4i]

Disney and Hollywood studios are laundering cash a la Ozark type overpaid productions and tax write downs. It’s why their movies are getting longer and longer- more opportunities to overpay and launder all that cash.

[@mehAudio]

Very well put. Give us great stories and we will listen. Don‘t preach and dismiss. And ffs, I will never watch musicals, just as I will not stand for operas. So don‘t turn every story into a dance number, or I‘m out. And yes, no matter what subject, I will not watch vampire romance. Turn StarWars into Twilight and you WILL lose your audience.

[@hoboguru]

all the money in the world but Disney can't buy the zeitgeist

[@plasmaticmedia518]

Disney guy hits the corporate buzzwords like a drum

[@Ryder_OMEGA]

All of this woke trash started when the force awakens came out and Star war said that the force is female.

[@Ranzoir]

Someone needs to teach critical drunker how focus works…

[@fikryahmad5951]

Guys I hope you guys having plan to buy mic holder or stand for your vids 👍🏼

[@Steril707]

Always love that woman ripping them wokists a new one whenever they do those interviews... :D

[@matthewgaudet4064]

Deadpool 3 is one of the biggest hits in years. If it didn't go digital early and remained in the theater it probably would have made 2 billion.

[@LV127-p1k]

Lol dei isn't an issue if you do your job and make something entertaining. I am black and I hate acolyte, and all of disney's woke trash. BTW a good example of dei with great story is interview with a vampire. It's written very well. I didn't even know that there were gay vampires until I was already drawn in by the rest of the story, which is entertaining. And then magically people dont care if they are lgbtq, bi, black whatever.

[@setlik3gaming80]

Excellent analysis.

[@andrewobrien8325]

7:25 Also how bad is your argument where you can't name a film that came out in the last 5 years. Black Panther came out in 2018, the covid thing is a huge variable and changed the market so to bring up a film from before it and before the disney slump is dishonest and frankly is everything he was trying to accuse Nerdrotic and the critical drinker of. To give Nerdrotic and Critical Drinker full credit they were trying to be fair, if they succeeded isn't my place to say(I think they did but again I'm biased so I won't say if they were) and that's more than this guy was being. Using fantique would be a valid argument if there weren't examples that fly in the face of that, Superhero fantique is an argument they often use but there's anime and games that have succeeded in a climate where if that argument was valid, they simply wouldn't have plus a lot of those successful example are diverse anyway. Diversity when it's done naturally and you just let the product flow organically turns out some really good products.

[@zwidowca1]

Didn't that debate already happen some time ago? Or did disney send their clowns into the fray again?

[@Gr33nAv3ng3r]

No i totally agree. I wanna see a good story. If it has other stuff in it okay... But was it a good story? Or was it so obviously and painfully pandering to one group or another?

[@Dj-Mccullough]

the ai voices are grating

[@TeeAiDee]

Did anyone else notice how the Disney guy kept looking in the same direction while he was speaking? I think he had some sort of script he was reading from.

[@GWNorth-db8vn]

Mickey was standing just off camera with a baseball bat.

[@TheMaleRei]

@@GWNorth-db8vn If it was *just* a baseball bat, he wouldn't be that worried. ... Who knows what the Disney guy did to prove his loyalty... Dirt and dirt and dirt.

[@TeylaDex]

how many subscribers does drinker have???? I'm there since 5k or so😅

[@Xingmey]

why do i need you two clowns in masks, when nerdrotic and crit drinker say the interesting parts? then i could just as well watch piercemorganuncensored... would be nice if you provide a link, since you are certainly not adding anything of value. wouldn't be too surprised if the analytics later show, that the parts where you guys yap on are the most skipped ones. i'm skipping them so hard atm.

[@MegaDoomer101]

The front line on the war of recreational outrage is pretty fucking stupid. The words Disney and debate are in the same sentence. Surely there are more important things then raging agasint bad writing