NERFS TEASED! They’re finally going to nerf Sonya and The Demon Seed! No Ethereal Oracle nerf!?

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Zeddy Hearthstone

Zeddy Hearthstone

Күн бұрын

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@MrShyghost
@MrShyghost 3 сағат бұрын
I loved hs because it was a card game with video game elements , now its a video game with card game elements
@NeoTiamat
@NeoTiamat 3 сағат бұрын
I feel like you're dramatically underestimating how much modifying Tamsin to symmetrical damage would change things. Yes, there's still plenty of healing available to Warlocks, and it's still a game changing effect, but at least they can't just just vomit their hand of self damage cards onto the field completely willy-nilly.
@DaXurk
@DaXurk 2 сағат бұрын
zeddy thought nerfing concierge to 4 wont do anything to concierge druid because "they always have spare mana left anyway" , basically any nerf that isnt as blunt as a sledgehammer is too subtle for him, he always complains about nerfs being too light and then the decks end up dead because surprise, you dont need to vindictively butcher a deck for it to become less/non viable
@BattleBuilds
@BattleBuilds 2 сағат бұрын
Ya I think making it symetrical is the perfect change. You only get two health stones, and you usually need to use at least 1 of them just to stay alive with demon seed as is. He is drastically underselling how strong the immune on your own turn effect part of the demon seed is.
@Begeru
@Begeru Сағат бұрын
Making it symmetrical kills the deck imo.
@Blak_024
@Blak_024 Сағат бұрын
Sonya gets nerf like chaman is not the main issue atm
@sng9x
@sng9x 2 сағат бұрын
Ethereal Oracle dodged the nerf again due to new expansion card privileges…
@eddy0929
@eddy0929 3 сағат бұрын
they are changing tamsin to deal damage to both sides, which is why they are touching dark glare as well. with the damage being to both sides it means dark glare is still useful after completing the quest line and could potentially cause a otk style effect with refreshing mana at the end of the game after the tamsin is played.
@seanmccarthy4038
@seanmccarthy4038 Сағат бұрын
So, Shaman is going from 62% win rate to 61. Druid still has unlimited ramp and Sonya turns are getting pushed back one turn. Complete incompetence from the devs as usual
@juliosoto6315
@juliosoto6315 3 сағат бұрын
They finally heard Zeddy with Sonya, i think oracle is dodging well the nerf.
@phillipjones1536
@phillipjones1536 3 сағат бұрын
Actually it's dodging the ner hammer
@Desturel
@Desturel 58 минут бұрын
Thanks for the headsup Zeddy. Decided to play Demon Seed for the first time ever just now so that I could get all of the healthstone and Mass Production achievements done. Took 1 game. Apparently it's the high skill cap of the deck is what drives everyone to play it.
@sebastiansmith6634
@sebastiansmith6634 3 сағат бұрын
So salty oracle wasn’t nerfed that card enables way too much for the mana cost😊
@GenericMedusa99
@GenericMedusa99 3 сағат бұрын
devs dunno what they are doing obviously
@zanderhowick-evans1741
@zanderhowick-evans1741 3 сағат бұрын
Fill your hand with backstabs is my suggestion. also they are unlikely to do Tamsin's mana as the other rewords all cost 5
@SpencerXYZMC
@SpencerXYZMC 3 сағат бұрын
Tansim does not need to be 5 seriously, Seven at the least
@Ggg6vcyyfryruuuf
@Ggg6vcyyfryruuuf 3 сағат бұрын
All the hand may be too much. I think 2 backstab at 3 mana (3/3) and removing the "undamaged minon only" text. Would make it a nice card, not too amazing, and is still remaining too situational.
@zanderhowick-evans1741
@zanderhowick-evans1741 2 сағат бұрын
@@SpencerXYZMC i was saying that it is unlikely to happen not that it would be a bad change
@tylercressy6875
@tylercressy6875 2 сағат бұрын
Ethereal Oracle is a sweet card and I’m glad they’re not nerfing it. Nerfing every single neutral card with a high play rate is not the way
@DaXurk
@DaXurk 2 сағат бұрын
that single card is basically the entire expansion, all their new archetypes are really weak (libram is okay now that its been buffed at least, and discover hunter is actually good now but its only a few new cards)
@grakuynosc7270
@grakuynosc7270 2 сағат бұрын
The problem is there is too much draw in the game. No one ever runs out of cards anymore
@vinnythewebsurfer
@vinnythewebsurfer 3 сағат бұрын
Of all the Druid nerfs they could’ve gone with, they go after the shitty win more one that’s gonna get rotated anyway inna couple months? I’d feel less insulted if nothing in Druid got hit.
@khornelor6
@khornelor6 3 сағат бұрын
It stops dungar for a turn at least
@PGrimm-ib4xo
@PGrimm-ib4xo 3 сағат бұрын
At this point i would change demon seed, that it basicallyis as hard to complete, as it was on release, but i would change the reward to: Whenever you take damage on your turn, your opponent does too.
@TheClanBlade
@TheClanBlade 3 сағат бұрын
Nerfing Crystal Cluster makes no sense, it's not the card that is overpowered, it's the card it enables.
@SpencerXYZMC
@SpencerXYZMC 3 сағат бұрын
Just do dungar to ten and make crystal cluster 7
@christianloder8127
@christianloder8127 3 сағат бұрын
And the other cards that let you ramp into it.
@Loathe777
@Loathe777 2 сағат бұрын
I think its a pretty good nerf though. The other ramp cards are overpriced technically but getting to 10 mana on 6 mana crystals is just absurd with early ramp. I could imagine that they don‘t increase the cost but actually cut off a whole mana crystal, because it is very versatile with its second effect.
@SpencerXYZMC
@SpencerXYZMC 2 сағат бұрын
@Loathe777 making it only get out two crystal elementals would kinda make it not useful, you kinda want that third so you can fill up with restoration station, have the clusters fill up three and then have one spot for yogg or kiljaeden that turn
@Xdxdxd228
@Xdxdxd228 Сағат бұрын
It’s also rotating in like a month It’s so pointless
@jaydodsworth6316
@jaydodsworth6316 3 сағат бұрын
i main rogue and i get that sonya is annoying and frustrating but really rogue has struggled without these mad apm decks ever since whizbangs. i dont know rogue will cope with this and the buff to talgath will no nothing the cards effect is useless. I really hate the direction with rogue of being scammy instead of feeling fair to play as how swingy the class is. Hope some changes come with the next core set.
@cuihenggang
@cuihenggang 3 сағат бұрын
If you watched the World Championship games last weekend, the Rogue games are the most fun to watch. From its popularity despite bad win rate, I believe many people are enjoying it.
@DaXurk
@DaXurk 3 сағат бұрын
the problem is that rogue as a class is designed to be less straightforward and simple in its playstyle than most other classes, this ends up leading to a lot of rogue decks being high APM/skill expression, which evidently everyone hates and so there is nothing left to play unless they print some really good aggro cards for it
@cuihenggang
@cuihenggang 3 сағат бұрын
@@DaXurk I would rather see more Sonia Rogue than Pirate Rogue.
@DaXurk
@DaXurk 3 сағат бұрын
@@cuihenggang same, but your average complainer thinks its unfair when good piloting actually makes a deck more likely to succeed, they want "fair" decks where you basically see a green card and you play a green card until you have no more green cards in hand and then you end turn, repeat this 6-7 times and either lose or win
@user-yq4yg7jx5q
@user-yq4yg7jx5q 3 сағат бұрын
i do think that with the success of Starship Rogue now being as good as peak power Excavate, the class actually has a real option outside of Sonya (and Swarthy Swordshiner to a lesser extent), so it's probably the best timing they've ever had for removing the load-bearing busted card
@DJarr216
@DJarr216 3 сағат бұрын
Not saying darkglare doesn't deserve a nerf, but what really pushed darkglare over the line is healthstone. Without healthstone healing for 20+ each time, there's a window to smorc the deck down. That said, the demonseed definatly needs a nerf. If a deck can't kill within 2 turns of Tamsin being played, it's usually game over. A demonseed nerf + healthstone ban is what i would have wanted. Depending on how they nerf the demon seed, a darkglare nerf and keeping healthstone might not slow the deck down fast enough for slower equally degenerate decks to beat it (looking at you hostage mage)
@Maverick7613
@Maverick7613 45 минут бұрын
@Madisian
@Madisian 3 сағат бұрын
QL Warlock is the only deck I autoconcede sometimes while my Legendclimb with bonusstars. It's just a dumb, unfun experience. Because of the QL all the games feel similar. I was so bored with the deck lately that I couldn't even look at them while they went about their stupid quest steps. So it's good to see they do more serious nerfs on it.
@joseluisvergara7493
@joseluisvergara7493 2 сағат бұрын
for tamsin you need to cap it to once per turn
@Koenepoentje
@Koenepoentje 3 сағат бұрын
If they don't fix arena, I'm still not playing. It's in such a bad state because of DK, there is just no point in playing except fi you draft mage or DK.
@rivanianx
@rivanianx Сағат бұрын
Honestly, just rotate Zilliax early at this point. 6 nerfs is embarrassing.
@Laku-
@Laku- 3 сағат бұрын
Make Talgath give 2 backstabs, I think that would make him pretty good
@impkiller5932
@impkiller5932 3 сағат бұрын
Make him double damage even not full health minions
@jaruhcaz
@jaruhcaz Сағат бұрын
The fact that even at 3 mana is still worse than the neutral epic card. Man, my favorite part of talgath was doubling it with sonya for the insane comebacks it could give
@GatsbyCioffi
@GatsbyCioffi 34 минут бұрын
What about the sigil pirates getting rush instead of charge? Lowers some of the burst that deck can do into an empty board.
@fefino1411
@fefino1411 2 минут бұрын
I hope they gut the demon seed. That card should never have been made.
@le0n447
@le0n447 3 сағат бұрын
How enigmatic.
@dack400
@dack400 5 минут бұрын
I wish they’d do away with so much mana being refreshed, being able to have more than 10 mana, etc, miss how the game used to be
@galkanftw
@galkanftw 27 минут бұрын
I have a huge list of cards that should have been nerfed before the bible was written. Shadowstep should not cost 0 ...EVER.Sonya only give back max 1 card or kick it right out of Standard.Rogue needs so many nerfs it was drawing most of it's deck before other classes barely got going that is so stupid broken it is sad they allowed it. Sargeras should be nerfed or better yet give us cards to ANSWER these powerful plays like WHY am I playing another player if I can't do anything about his plays? The HS team should start using some common sense when designing cards if yo uwant to give a card a powerful affect that can decide the game right then and there at least make the player have to EARN it's ability similar to how ou had to for example play a certain amount of dragons to play Zarini. HS is a NON interactive game so you have to actually give an opponent a CHANCE to answer what the other player is doing and it is a SIMPLE fix give certain powerful cards a sickness turn meaning the oppoenent gets to actually do something about it on their turn or better yet gives us a STACK and counter cards.
@Mikach066
@Mikach066 2 сағат бұрын
Finally Sonya will be a 2/2 : D
@GeraldArchambault
@GeraldArchambault 57 минут бұрын
I am confused on why Sonya is being nerfed. From what I understand, each class has its own special abilities. With Druid you have ramp, with Mage you have spells. With rogue you have the ability to bounce cards back to your hand. To you playing rogue is just a cheat session with no response from your side. Yet looking at the meta, you consistently see rogue being on the bottom of the meta. Now I can see your response being that at high legend rogue is a problem. But this shows that rogue takes much skill in order for it to perform well. So explain to me why nerfing one of premiere cards in the rogue class is so impactful if the class is consistently at the bottom or near it?
@Maverick7613
@Maverick7613 40 минут бұрын
Because there's no skill involved in endlessly cycling Griftah with Breakdance and Shadowstep, grabbing 800 "deal 6 damage" amulets... which ALSO trigger Sonya (since they're 1-mana) to make 800 more 0-mana copies of "deal 6 damage"... a protozoan with a limp pseudopod could reliably play Sonya/Griftah Rogue
@georgebablas1431
@georgebablas1431 15 минут бұрын
Its about how well you pilot the deck. For example druid is pretty simple. Ramp twice survive throw Dungar. You basically play a card per turn. Not much to think about. With rogue from turn 5 you draw/discover/play at least 10 cards. This can overwhelm the player if he doesn't know what/when/why to play or pick on every situation. That on the other hand overwhelms the enemy if you know what to do. That translates in higher ranks people are better with this limitless deck. The winrates in hsreplay are not the whole truth. This might have 30% in Plat and 65 or 70% in high legend.
@iceygamingrulez
@iceygamingrulez 3 сағат бұрын
The Demon Seed - removed. A man can dream
@fragabore
@fragabore 5 минут бұрын
Prediction: Lynessa Paladin is gonna be the new swarm shaman
@vigridr7614
@vigridr7614 Сағат бұрын
Zilliax the safest craft there has ever been. I always craft it golden and then DE it again next time it gets nerfed.
@asherscoffeebeans
@asherscoffeebeans Сағат бұрын
They need to ban Crystallizer for Warlock, that card is too strong in demon seed decks. 1 mana deal 5 heal 5 is insane.
@cparks1000000
@cparks1000000 2 сағат бұрын
I'm glad they're finally balancing Wild.
@Infinityandsome
@Infinityandsome Сағат бұрын
Change Talgath to Combo. Remove a minion on the board. 🎉
@ph8808
@ph8808 3 сағат бұрын
no hunter nerfs is surprising, also I am expecting another nerf to ziliax in Haywire/Power module
@toomanylies7716
@toomanylies7716 Сағат бұрын
Pfft. Wanting Demon Seed nerfed while all these other win Turn 5/6 decks, noninteractable combo decks, or unlimited freeze mage is around is definitely a choice.
@jordanm714
@jordanm714 Сағат бұрын
I am surprised that skydiving is on the block I haven't run into demon hunter or aggressive shaman like at all But I am definitely with you on the whole kill druid no talent hack ramp into unkillable board that shit makes me want to be a taste tester at smith and wesson
@courtneyjatan3454
@courtneyjatan3454 3 сағат бұрын
I pulled Sonya, disenchanted it, re crafted it, disenchanted it again and re crafted it again, lol
@Shadovvwithoutbody
@Shadovvwithoutbody 41 минут бұрын
I'm sad because warlocks does not really have a good quest at all. I like quests in general.
@noanimationexpert3843
@noanimationexpert3843 3 сағат бұрын
They’re going to give Sonya’s effect to Talgath
@shadei1142
@shadei1142 3 сағат бұрын
Talgath is getting buffed, we’re doomed
@nash3timemvp
@nash3timemvp Сағат бұрын
Sonya nerfed to work with any mana cost card.
@KamiYoutubeUwU
@KamiYoutubeUwU 2 сағат бұрын
Still waiting for the primary mechanic of the expansion to be viable, dont know why we arent buffing space ships
@DaXurk
@DaXurk 2 сағат бұрын
they did, and they still suck ass, they spent a whole patch basically trying to get starship rogue to be good and failed, and now they have the briliant idea of nerfing other bad rogue decks as well
@Jeremia_Emanuel
@Jeremia_Emanuel 2 сағат бұрын
One nerf i would have liked to see with zilliax is one that i have seen on Reddit where someone recommended what if we change the perfect module and the virus module to be a battlecry. so the modules say: Perfect Module: Battlecry: Gain divine, rush, taunt and livesteal. Virus Module: Battlecry: Gain poisonous, reborn and elusive. Would make it so the Reborned copy would only be a vanilla 4 attack 1 Health minion without effects and you can't resummon Zilliax over and over again with Hydrationstation because Zilliax wouldn't be originally a Taunt Minion. PLUS, if Doctor Boom, rest in Peace or Sasquack would revive it OR if you summon it with chemical spill, it wouldn't have its powerful effects and instead just be a vanilla minion. so its still maybe a toxic or atleast strong card when played but you can't cheat it out so easily and even if. once its over you (For the most part) dont have a problem with it again. I am in general kinda disliking Ziliax as a card which also maybe comes from the fact that the last three matches i lost only to Dungar druid but even without it its Toxic as hell. But thats just a recommendation i have for the Unkilliax version. Sorry for any grammer or spelling mistake. english is not my mother language so i may havesome mistakes in my comments.
@DaXurk
@DaXurk 2 сағат бұрын
literally none of the top 12~ decks right now even use perfect or virus when they use Ziliax, its just straight up either Pylon + Ticking or Power + Haywire, whats with all the pearl clutching over modules that dont even lead to great decks to begin with?
@infarall6328
@infarall6328 2 сағат бұрын
Tamsin first or 2 first damage itself deal random damage enemy
@vitormelo3295
@vitormelo3295 3 сағат бұрын
Keep up the good work, Zeddy
@WitchHunterRobin
@WitchHunterRobin 3 сағат бұрын
i wish for wild they did nerf Big shaman, after quest warlock nerf its gonna be nr 1 maybe holy wrath dmg cap would be good as highroll 100 dmg still is a thing as early as turn 3 - 5 biology project and ysiel too could be hit
@cheemoney
@cheemoney 2 сағат бұрын
But what about all my extra ethereal oracles 😢
@gankfrombush
@gankfrombush 2 сағат бұрын
I know people enjoy demon seed. But enough is enough. The deck completely dominates every wild deck
@mrchicken5943
@mrchicken5943 2 сағат бұрын
No, it really doesn't. In fact, the deck is fairly mediocre in diamond / legend because decks like Pirate Demon Hunter, Shadow Priest, etc, just completely shit on it 99.99% of the time.
@gankfrombush
@gankfrombush Сағат бұрын
@@mrchicken5943 congratulations. It still is ruining wild and dominates every deck that isn't hyper aggro and still often beats those decks
@genericduelist2680
@genericduelist2680 3 сағат бұрын
Disappointed the mystery egg nerf is sticking around. The deck was already slow and RNG based(love it when my first 2-4 egg procs are sasquak even tho I have all other targets in deck leading me to have no real plays) and now the deck is even slower as now typically you have to wait an extra turn to summon anything from your egg. I haven’t even seen anyone else even attempt to play egg hunter on ladder since it’s nerf. Also where is the buff to gorm?
@chaosjimthevoidlord3762
@chaosjimthevoidlord3762 Сағат бұрын
The egg nerf is deserved Not having to deal with literally infinite free 5/2’s with rush that clear everything and build boards simultaneously is good for the game.
@williammartinsyay
@williammartinsyay 30 минут бұрын
I always concede against Demon Seed, i hate that card
@Stephen-N
@Stephen-N 3 сағат бұрын
the 2 mana, draw 2, with spell damage and a 2/3 minion not being nerfed... crazy. make it either, a 1/1, no spell damage or only draws one spell. easy. also uh·thereal ;)
@chaosjimthevoidlord3762
@chaosjimthevoidlord3762 Сағат бұрын
It’s 3 mana, not 2
@feelsokayman5656
@feelsokayman5656 51 минут бұрын
no Shaman nerf, what a joke
@galkanftw
@galkanftw 23 минут бұрын
MTG has existed for over 20 years and been critiqued by pros the entire time the STACK is a MUST have in a player versus player game but this HS team I assume can't do it becuase of copyright but as I said there is a way around it just have played cards go through a sickness turn give the opponent a chance to react and not just let Rogue play 30+ mana worth of cards on turn 6.Give me access to counter cards a chance to remove card going through a sickness phase. In other words fix your crummy game design.
@heianwood6119
@heianwood6119 3 сағат бұрын
Wild players rejoice!
@tb124.gaming
@tb124.gaming 3 сағат бұрын
Honestly as someone who played quite a lot of DewmonSeed, I think changing the reward to ALSO damage the enemy might make the deck a lot weaker in most instances... that combined with a darkglare nerf might be what we need
@edoardorustichelli3867
@edoardorustichelli3867 Сағат бұрын
How many times have they nerfed the demon seed? Worst card design ever, they should Just rework the card or remove It from the game
@Maverick7613
@Maverick7613 53 минут бұрын
Zeddy - seriously brother... Oracle isn't that OP. Really the only deck that can abuse it are the crazy combo Rogue decks... and if they hit Sonya hard enough (take away the ability to use it on spells) and Oracle just becomes a standard "good" all-around neutral card. Unkilliax seriously needs the triple keyword Modules to become Choose One on Battlecry - six keyword immortal minions are absolutely bonkers.
@silvereloking6149
@silvereloking6149 3 сағат бұрын
they will nerf sonya attack
@garywright4106
@garywright4106 Сағат бұрын
Lol, I would love that
@zhaf
@zhaf 2 сағат бұрын
Nerf Demon seed to 30/30/30
@Kleshumara
@Kleshumara 3 сағат бұрын
Well, it’s a start.
@goranbabic8556
@goranbabic8556 3 сағат бұрын
I predict another month full of Dungar spam :)))))))))) And then they attack me for criticizing Dungar :))))))))
@PhukYu2
@PhukYu2 Сағат бұрын
Another nerf? Sigil DH is a pain... aggro shaman didn't really need a nerf but whatever. Just make it go to 3.
@chaosjimthevoidlord3762
@chaosjimthevoidlord3762 Сағат бұрын
Aggro shaman is literally the top meta deck right now, a nerf is fair.
@PhukYu2
@PhukYu2 41 минут бұрын
@@chaosjimthevoidlord3762 I already dislike standard and am only running that because it's cheap and the next highest win rate deck gets whompstomped - and don't wanna craft jack shit for *standard* mode to endure that stupid quest... I might grind standard, again, someday for purposes of achievements, dunno.
@azuz8258
@azuz8258 2 сағат бұрын
Why don't we just delete DH from the game. Uselss class except aggro and now nerfed.
@gachibass3639
@gachibass3639 Сағат бұрын
Team 5 are solitaire enjoyers and hate the aggro archetype.
@Vigilant_warrior_08
@Vigilant_warrior_08 Сағат бұрын
Attack demon hunter still alive and well, and I think more powerful than pirate demon hunter.
@Maverick7613
@Maverick7613 42 минут бұрын
@@Vigilant_warrior_08 - I mean... attack DH is just hero aggro rather than minion aggro... it doesn't play fundamentally different. Literally the only "different" DH archetype I can recall there being was when they did the whole minion-less build... token spam and face damage from deck/hand... which was still a weird sort of aggro build... DH has had a handful of control/tempo types of cards (like the one that burns 2 mana crystals of your opponent for a turn)... but, those were really just support to ensure your aggro build had board control for the kill.
@lucashaefliger8961
@lucashaefliger8961 13 минут бұрын
the community of hearthstone cries too much, demon seed already been nerfed soo many times and the players not satisfied, the same thing to ice block, you don't know secret eater the 4 mana card.
@fl3xratgame
@fl3xratgame 3 сағат бұрын
sonya, the only barely good legendary in rogue currently, lets hope is just 1 mana nerf and no the effect, being 1 mana cards is very specific to be changed
@DaXurk
@DaXurk 3 сағат бұрын
sonya isnt even good which makes the calls for nerfs even more confusing, hell the best rogue legendary right now is still mimiron from TITANS
@chaosjimthevoidlord3762
@chaosjimthevoidlord3762 Сағат бұрын
@@DaXurkSonya is 100% good, the scams she allows is too much.
@frankthetank6416
@frankthetank6416 Сағат бұрын
DEMON SEED IS DYING WE ARE IN A GOOD TIMELINE BOYS!!!!!
@arivastrujillo
@arivastrujillo 3 сағат бұрын
bann Healthstone from wild
@fatcat2015
@fatcat2015 2 сағат бұрын
Great, Sonya, a card that wasn’t doing anything, nerfed, thanks zeddy, never watching you again.
@urmom_1050
@urmom_1050 2 сағат бұрын
Why you acting like he's the one nerfing them lol
@DaXurk
@DaXurk 2 сағат бұрын
you dont get it bro it opens up design space if she gets nerfed trust me bro things will be so much better if sonya and shadowstep didnt exist bro blizzard will definitely make rogue strong bro
@chaosjimthevoidlord3762
@chaosjimthevoidlord3762 Сағат бұрын
Sonya was doing a lot actually She’s been letting rogue scam an absolute shit ton of extra value and damage for essentially free
@DLKoakuma
@DLKoakuma 3 сағат бұрын
Sonya becomes a 2/2.
@matthewjecelin8358
@matthewjecelin8358 3 сағат бұрын
And yet druid is untouched. Typical
@chaosjimthevoidlord3762
@chaosjimthevoidlord3762 Сағат бұрын
Crystal cluster is a druid card, it got touched, a tiny amount but it was tweaked
@matthewjecelin8358
@matthewjecelin8358 Сағат бұрын
@chaosjimthevoidlord3762 they'll just replace it with another ramp card. You either ramp until you play dungar and win or get addro'd down
@georgebablas1431
@georgebablas1431 5 минут бұрын
Dungar is the problem. I don't know what are they thinking... Cluster doesn't even matter. Point is if they draw Dungar or not... Could have been very easily nerfed by mana limiting the dudes he brings. Bring 3 6- cost not 3 steroid guys.
@MrJaydubb87
@MrJaydubb87 Сағат бұрын
I don't understand why the nerfs keep coming. The issue at the heart of gameplay is that decks are going to continue to be copied as long as the internet exists.
@1KingMajin
@1KingMajin 2 сағат бұрын
I dont think crystal cluster should be nerf. Its the other card that says "gain two mana crystal next turn only." Thats the problematic card
@chaosjimthevoidlord3762
@chaosjimthevoidlord3762 Сағат бұрын
Crystal cluster allows druid to just ramp for 3 turns and then drop dungar, it getting a nerf makes sense even if it isn’t the most problematic card
@ShadowJuanathan
@ShadowJuanathan 3 сағат бұрын
I would change Tamsin to an aura effect. When she’s gone, the reward is gone.
@johnj4471
@johnj4471 3 сағат бұрын
Once per game needs to be added to many battlecry minions and x per turn needs to be added to many persistent effects
@MoGunhit
@MoGunhit Сағат бұрын
lol nerfing sonya is the key xD lol the decks that running sonya isnt even above 50% wr thats frustrating asf to play aginst dungar or paladin with 3 expansions before card sett with holy board in turn 5 they are keep nerfing bullshit the game is poor games are too short and extremly fast
@hblanche
@hblanche 2 сағат бұрын
Perhaps Charge will be removed from the skydiving pirates?
@chaosjimthevoidlord3762
@chaosjimthevoidlord3762 Сағат бұрын
I wish
@xx-th7mf
@xx-th7mf 2 сағат бұрын
HealthStone shouldbe nerf- that card make me sick in Wild
@scottthebotgaming6122
@scottthebotgaming6122 3 сағат бұрын
No Dungar nerf? 😭
@chaosjimthevoidlord3762
@chaosjimthevoidlord3762 Сағат бұрын
Crystal cluster is an indirect nerf as it lets druid just ramp turn 2, 3 and 4, then drop dungar
@Squid-King
@Squid-King 3 сағат бұрын
Any patch where Rogue suffers and is made unplayable is a good one. They will make anything unfun or use broken combos to just steal wins. Bit of a long time coming. Demon Seed going is just a start I hope, as the deck needs to just be gutted to the point of unplayability.
@cuihenggang
@cuihenggang 3 сағат бұрын
When you think they stole your win, they might actually have been ahead as they have their combo set up.
@DaXurk
@DaXurk 3 сағат бұрын
"every patch that reduces deck diversity is a good one" me when im in a bad game design competition and my opponent is a youtube commenter: also "bit of a long time coming" is hilarious when the class has been consistently one of the 3 worst classes for around 4 expansions
@chaosjimthevoidlord3762
@chaosjimthevoidlord3762 Сағат бұрын
@@cuihenggangSonya does just steal wins, she’s scams so much extra value and damage it’s not fair or fun to play against watching your opponent just play solitaire until you blow up
@fffanatikos
@fffanatikos 3 сағат бұрын
Hope they fix their game otherwise will be empty this time in 1 year from now. They managed to kill all modes even battlegrounds, don't care about players.
@VenomousMoses
@VenomousMoses Сағат бұрын
Bruh, I just crafted cards for the demon seed deck. Why must they nerf it now that I’ve finally accepted they’re never gonna do that?!? (I crafted cards around the demon seed, not the demon seed itself so no refund for me)
@Petervannederland
@Petervannederland 3 сағат бұрын
lol changing tamsin's text would be such a cuck move from blizz
@AllanRoberto2711
@AllanRoberto2711 3 сағат бұрын
it would destroy the deck, but i dont think it would be that bad, this cards has been a problem for years
@Satyaembodied
@Satyaembodied 3 сағат бұрын
I just started playing cycle rogue sadge
@RumplyCreator
@RumplyCreator 3 сағат бұрын
NOO SONYA GETTING NERFED JALEX WILL BE SAD NOOOOOOOOOOOOO :(
@chaosjimthevoidlord3762
@chaosjimthevoidlord3762 Сағат бұрын
She deserves it
@caseystafford6750
@caseystafford6750 3 сағат бұрын
I know we want the Oracle nerfed. But just remember, that game state can't afford for it to be 4cost, BECAUSE OF SONYA
@DaXurk
@DaXurk 3 сағат бұрын
? how
@caseystafford6750
@caseystafford6750 3 сағат бұрын
@DaXurk The same reason Griffta gets played in rogue: because Sandbox Scoundrel (and its mini) can make 4cost things, only 1mana. I get that you never played in the old days of Miracle Rogue, but please sit and think about the implications of Sonya giving rogue multiple extra ZeroDrop copies of "spellburst: draw 2 spells; spell damage +1"
@caseystafford6750
@caseystafford6750 3 сағат бұрын
@@DaXurk In other words, do you WANT a repeat of Quazar Rogue, but even more consistent? (Nobody does) Cuz making the Oracle 4 mana is how that happens
@DaXurk
@DaXurk 3 сағат бұрын
@@caseystafford6750 I played miracle rogue, but the game has moved far beyond just "getting to play a ton of cards = win" which is why both quasar and cycle rogue suck ass lmao, youre right that i dont want a repeat of quasar rogue, but thats because that deck had a sub 50% WR and was a low tier 3 meme, I think rogue should get an actual good deck as it has gotten nothing but garbage for 3 expansions straight
@Ggg6vcyyfryruuuf
@Ggg6vcyyfryruuuf 2 сағат бұрын
3 or 4 mana doesn't make any difference for sonya, because shadow step make it costs 1 too. making it 4 mana isn't the best nerf anyway (to me at least). The best ways are either removing the spell damage or making it draw 1. By making this maybe it could also become a 2 costs minion. Btw sonya is getting nerfed we don't know how, yet, but sonya surely doesn't influence the fact that oracle can't cost 4 mana.
@gch910
@gch910 3 сағат бұрын
Not. Fast. Enough.
@Balthazar228
@Balthazar228 3 сағат бұрын
This is why HS is dying. Nerfs to all the fun decks
@chaosjimthevoidlord3762
@chaosjimthevoidlord3762 Сағат бұрын
Fun? Hyper aggro draw card go face, scam solitaire, scam 20+ mana on turn 5, and auto win against any non hyper aggro deck with self damage that isn’t actually self damage for 0 mana That’s fun?
@Balthazar228
@Balthazar228 6 минут бұрын
@ sounds like someone has never had 11 stars and has never wasted 30 minutes+ only to lose to thief priest randomly generating perfect answers to your deck. Come back when you don’t have 12 hours a day to waste on grinding d5 to legend
@donnyelias1072
@donnyelias1072 3 сағат бұрын
I had just created Sonya 🤡
@chaosjimthevoidlord3762
@chaosjimthevoidlord3762 Сағат бұрын
Free refund
@donnyelias1072
@donnyelias1072 35 минут бұрын
@@chaosjimthevoidlord3762 Not only did I craft Sonya, but also several more legendaries from the ship rogue deck 🥲
@johnj4471
@johnj4471 3 сағат бұрын
Unkilliax needs to lose elusive.
@DaXurk
@DaXurk 3 сағат бұрын
just one more nerf bro I swear just one more nerf I swear the fifth one would be last I swear bro just one more nerf please
@johnj4471
@johnj4471 3 сағат бұрын
@ most of them were the wrong nerfs and the card is technically 3+ cards in one.
@GabeW-ko2lf
@GabeW-ko2lf 3 сағат бұрын
Damage on your turn also affects your opponent. Or maybe make it 8 mana 4/4
@LenManning-zu9wk
@LenManning-zu9wk 3 сағат бұрын
Pretty good . We will see what happens. Demon Seed is a loser card so hopefully it gets destroyed.
@DaXurk
@DaXurk 3 сағат бұрын
by loser card do you mean that you lose against it all the time
@LenManning-zu9wk
@LenManning-zu9wk 2 сағат бұрын
No, I don’t play wild . It’s been a card only played by the biggest of losers ever since it came out. Like Shudderwock, only the bottom of the barrel would ever play the card.
@DaXurk
@DaXurk 2 сағат бұрын
when you say the bottom of the barrel do you mean the top of legend
@LenManning-zu9wk
@LenManning-zu9wk 54 минут бұрын
@@DaXurk Not necessarily, though it certainly can be the case. What Im talking about specifically, are the hordes of sheeple that play just the most broken decks in wild. The real losers in life.
@GabeW-ko2lf
@GabeW-ko2lf 3 сағат бұрын
First whoop whoop
@GabeW-ko2lf
@GabeW-ko2lf 3 сағат бұрын
Got to watch the zeddy rant
@ImagineMeOnTHC
@ImagineMeOnTHC 3 сағат бұрын
Perfection requires some tweaking
@extremepsykosis
@extremepsykosis 2 сағат бұрын
Hearthstone has gotten so lame, that I barely play it anymore. It's not even worth my time. If the dev team wants a reno/zarimi meta with all kinds of cheat garbage, then they don't want my money. I instead have been enjoying the bazar.
@jiajiaoioi
@jiajiaoioi Сағат бұрын
Too late. My interest for the game is gone, again..
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