Neri Oxman: Biology, Art, and Science of Design & Engineering with Nature | Lex Fridman Podcast

[@lexfridman]

Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. Transcript: lexfridman.com/neri-oxman-transcript 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - Babbel: babbel.com/lexpod and use code Lexpod to get 55% off - BetterHelp: betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off - House of Macadamias: houseofmacadamias.com/lex and use code LEX to get 20% off first order - InsideTracker: insidetracker.com/lex to get 20% off - ExpressVPN: expressvpn.com/lexpod to get 3 months free 1:49 - Biomass vs anthropomass 16:10 - Computational templates 36:25 - Biological hero organisms 47:25 - Engineering with bacteria 55:42 - Plant communication 1:09:05 - Albert Einstein letter 1:12:27 - Beauty 1:17:23 - Faith 1:27:09 - Flaws 1:46:58 - Extinction 1:58:05 - Alien life 2:01:55 - Music 2:03:22 - Movies 2:07:54 - Advice for young people

[@karan_hiremath]

So glad you had Neri on! She’s always had some of the coolest research at Media Lab

[@colinstringer561]

Hey Lex, you're one of my favorite humans. Another one of my favorite humans is Joe Dispenza, will you invite him to your amazing podcast please? It would be awesome :).

[@EyyLmaoo]

Been waiting for this one

[@rockestee]

Update 3 days later: This has seriously got to be my favorite and MOST INSPIRING LEX INTERVIEW YET! For one thing, I have to keep pausing to ponder. Not science thoughts- but thoughts of philosophy and what could be a widely shared mindset by a majority of humans! I feel this Love coming from math and science and even am writing a book about how math is the universe’s love note to humanity. In my story It is a parental love, but you and Neri have more of a romantic take of the universe and the tools it lays at our feet and what we are supposed to be doing with these tools. It is positively a first crush , an intoxicating infatuation, and i am marveling at it and feel at once vindicated and inspired! I am gobsmacked by the clarity in this science messaging displayed by Neri Oxman. ( And Lex, you get it and in my humble opinion , always have.) It all leads back to love. But, Neri is trying her best to elevate us to a loving state ( vs violent, vs greedy state!) by thinking, thinking, and more thinking. I hear her, and i hear you too Lex. Many of us do. And , these ideas will spread…. But, to take a page from this interview, quite slowly maybe on a plant 🪴 time scale. I am learning so much. I have an hour left to still savor……( 🙏 thank you) Original comment : Yes! Been waiting ! She is one of my muses! Let’s go Neri and thank you Lex🙏 ( oh my gosh and i am sure an inspiration for many many and now- ( yay Lex!) many more.

[@imsweetleaf]

Molecular blending with Lex. Out of the park with this one. Thank you for the love, respect, and intelligence you show and share...

[@YesIndeed869]

There’s nothing I love more than hearing people talk about their passions and interests. Thank you both for this conversation

[@phenomagator]

Lex went above and beyond with the graphics during this one. Thank you for the hard work and brilliant conversations!

[@ignaciocalderondelabarca4326]

yeah but vids are courtesy of Oxman's lab

[@arthurabreu2962]

I bet Lex was paid a lot of money to do this lol. Don't get me wrong, Neri Oxman, is brilliant but she also happens to be the wife of Bill Ackman, a billionaire.

[@shawnBuildsWithRosie]

@@arthurabreu2962 I wonder if there is a team of editors that may contribute to this podcast.

[@yipperdeyip]

​@@shawnBuildsWithRosie Obviously

[@theapexgreen2082]

He could of kept her on screen more often tbh

[@noam65]

I have been waiting 30 years for the concept of her company to come into being and fruition. Nature guided technology integration has the potential to save our biosphere. I'm so grateful.

[@quantumpotential7639]

Technology guided nature is a scary thing. They're already Chem trailing our arrrrrrses into stupid. We don't need no more stupid. We need to let stupid be given an opportunity to break free from its sorry 😞 state and become brilliant. But on its own. Where it's real. Not artificial. Thanks for your understanding and xooperaiin.

[@izzysyoutubeig]

@@quantumpotential7639 if we are doing it, it is real, it was meant to be and was always going to happen, just have to live and adapt like everything else really right?

[@VANDERWALTTINA]

​@@quantumpotential7639 totally agree

[@blossom9565]

@@noam65 How does her work have the potential to “save our biosphere”? What rubbish! What would save our biosphere would be the upper-echelons of the billionaire class reducing their carbon footprint by not living their lavish lifestyles.

[@noam65]

@blossom9565 by changing minds, hearts, attitudes.

[@MasonPayne]

I love how passionate Neri is about everything in this world. Her intelligence, passion, and love for life are obvious from the beginning of this interview all the way to the end. This was a fantastic conversation and was full of great principles to guide your life with. Keep up the great interviews and conversations with these wonderful people.

[@LucindaR-me9xs]

Dont confuse passion with blank bewilderment

[@Noneblue39]

when you dedicate your whole academic and industry career for this niche field ofc you would be

[@ztotheu2974]

She comes off as a leftist nut.

[@DonG-1949]

Lol, she sounds like a large language model herself with all that techno-primitivist psychobabble, like a modern, neoliberal Yoko Ono. Lots of interesting ideas and far reaching connections, little substance.

[@penultimateh766]

And the fact that she's gorgeous influences you not at all....

[@amirascher]

This episode is one for the books. Neri and her work are so amazing and inspiring. It's a privilege to be able to listen to her for such a long, detailed conversation. The videos you inserted are incredible, you managed to created a whole new podcast experience. Thank you!

[@amirascher]

@@charlotte33072 You guys are so boring. Instead of spending your time and energy spreading lies and hatred in social media and in life itself, why don't you harness your talents to actually do some good for this world? People like Neri are taking us forward while you guys are taking us back. Forward is a better place to be in. Think about it.

[@amirascher]

@@charlotte33072 LOL. What does that even mean?

[@raykane2063]

She copied and pasted her way to the top

[@amirascher]

@@raykane2063 lol read up. She'd done things you still can't imagine are possible.

[@bcj]

The first 20 minutes of this interview already ignited 500 new hobbies I need to start now. So much cool stuff to learn in this interview

[@rainnbowunikorn]

take 1 sec, too see, that I also second this comment. 3 is company my friend, and so fourth.

[@AlohaAloha-f2v]

Is tuggin dudes one of them

[@bas.artistry]

This gives adhd vibes lol might need a picture of terry crews to scold you when you open your wallet 😂

[@joeyrivera2423]

Like what ?

[@nicoles3166]

do you people even have your own independent thoughts? jfc i hope you check your house for gas leaks

[@brianbatista8569]

Lex your one of the most important people of our generation for giving and shining light on these brilliant people and their different perspective. You also ask amazing introspective questions. Your the man bro

[@MtnMichael88]

No, you’re* the man Brian!

[@0000SYL]

but he should interview more diverse people, they are mostly Jewish

[@girlygal098]

Huh?

[@natashasales]

I've been waiting for this one! Being a Design student with engineering interest and with a background of 2 years of a major in Biology, it's pretty rare to find inspiration in people who was able to connect it all. She has become a huge influence and it's quite comforting to know that there's space for us with multiple and diverse interests in which we can link knowledge to come up with something new, something beautiful. Thank you both for being the two humans I look up the most in recent years 💖

[@gloriouslyaesthetic]

You're doing the planet a great service! Never lose that vision 🙏

[@testaccount3699]

She is a fraud. Even the students at MIT don't like her. She is not nice to the undegraduate women who work with her either. She is cosplaying as a scientist and engineer. If you know science and engineering? Nothing she says makes sense. It's double speak This is a shame because MIT has other beautiful female professors actually in engineering and science departments. She got her PhD because her godfather was her advisor. She isn't even well-liked in her home department where she got her PhD. They knew she was a nepo baby. And let's not forget the Epstein connection. Lex was probably encouraged to do this because Bill Ackman (her husband) runs in these tech circles. She also has her students ideate and do the work for her. She is not hands on doing the work. Look at her students' theses. Go to MIT and find out for yourself. You can ask around. This is a "never meet your heroes" situation.

[@vlarnach]

Completely agree, and I have a similar background! There is a place for everyone, let the ideas generate! 🔆

[@reinman1987cancer]

Based on your experience, do you think its possible to create some organism to produce some sort for fuel for clean energy?

[@rainking50]

Applied consilience is the future :) Are you experimenting with mixing disciplines in any projects?

[@LeisureGoddess]

This podcast is the best ever. Anywhere. Anytime. Neri Oxman brings so much light to this increasingly dark and troubled sphere, where control and power rules. What an unexpected light. Thank you Lex.

[@theciakilledjfk5973]

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@mariavasilenko5080]

This conversation is a dance of poetry, math and art! The second derivative thinking tells me that I love to love listening to such inspiring and passionate thinkers and visionaries. Thank you, Lex and Neri, for the purely beautiful conversation!

[@MRTACPANS]

I beleive it all Starts With a Dot and a Dash MRTACPANS ALPHABET ART MATH SCIENCE.

[@Sir-.-]

And I love commenting on comments that I agree with to give them extra emphasis😅😊

[@raykane2063]

She copied and pasted her way to the top

[@maxsmith695]

Second derivative ? Her dissertation is atrocious and she messed up the Euclidean formula. My guess is grad students did it. Money, looks and connections, with the ability to talk about herself.

[@raykane2063]

Billionaire's wife is also on the Epstein list 💋😽👠👙👙

[@MusicIsHealing519]

Lex you have changed my life with your insight and kind words and mindfulness. People like you and others I listen to like great philosophers or comedians I have learned so much. You might never see this but I appreciate you.

[@idatong976]

Neri Oxman is totally awesome and inspirational, one of the most wonderful human beings. She speaks my language, sings my song, spends time watching the moon, and yes, talking to plants... I love her creative power and philosophy. Well done Lex! You're full of surprises, love you for that!! Thank you so much.

[@anywallsocket]

man's smitten 😂

[@kst157]

Neri Oxman - her sheer brilliance, articulation, profound creativity & flair, vast knowledge, humility & empathy - are all very visible for all to see here; with the #1 podcaster in the world as host. What a joyous & thought provoking & world-beating / outstanding combination to appreciate & humbly learn from. Thanks to you both. :)

[@KingMinosxxvi]

what ?!

[@ehhalexx]

Exactly@@KingMinosxxvi

[@ichibanmacbean5625]

She is a great role model for me. I am a woman in STEM(31 non traditional I have other degrees, lowly) and she is so inspiring in so many ways that I can not even express the narrative. She maintains her given beauty and then goes beyond all physical standards to represent her mind. The 1:46:35 second derivative, or tertiary(or quaternary) makes all the sense for what she says. She is amazing and inspiring.

[@theciakilledjfk5973]

Would you care to revisit that statement?

[@eluby]

Beautiful comment

[@girlygal098]

Are all of you doing ecstasy or something? And wtf was that about maintaining her physical beauty? Be honest. The whole lot of you dropped X and then came to watch Neri. 🤣🤣

[@christopherszymanski5715]

We could use more people like her in the world. What a wonderfully positively conversation about deep, personal and surface level things. What a perfect example of what a composed family can do for a young child and the heights that child can reach with the right support. Two beautiful souls talking, this i will take with me.

[@raykane2063]

We need more people like her who copy and paste.

[@paranormalwithdave]

Lex your podcast relaxes me in a way that I cant describe, mentally - every guest is awesome. Thank you man

[@Wise__guy]

Even a war criminal like Netanyahu

[@kadeeraziz]

Lex, thank you man for what you're doing for all knowledge seekers here. your impact is beyond measure.

[@createdjustforyoubypaul]

I hope Lex interviews more artists.

[@CodexPermutatio]

I second this message.

[@gledatelj1979]

What is the one knowledge you got out of this ?

[@philgagne4741]

@@gledatelj1979 We are passing from Terran to a Zerg species

[@createdjustforyoubypaul]

@@gledatelj1979 yeah I’ll be honest, she seems like a very kind woman… but 90% of what she was saying sounded a lot like mumbo-jumbo.

[@AdamGilbert]

Only an amazing scientist could say “I love my daughter more than evolution required” and it be so real and believable (and quietly funny)

[@TripToTrappist1]

Thanks for clarifying that she's not single

[@heyokah]

And the fungi wept...

[@barrypoontang]

@@TripToTrappist1 she is dating brad pitt, you could say the ex was just her evolutionary local space

[@macleadg]

Lex is a bigot.

[@the1stmetalhead]

@@barrypoontang no way. I mean it’s understandable she’s gorgeous, smart and overall a great person.

[@gary_michael_flanagan_wildlife]

Really amazing discussion. As a wildlife, bird photographer, I am always amazed when I’m out in nature observing all the complexities. I will also say her voice is so soothing, she could easily do a book reading to help soothe you to sleep. Very soothing voice

[@lyondhur]

This is by a long margin my favourite interview Lex. Neri is absolutely unique and as I designer myself, the synchronicity between both your brain waves sucked me in right off the start. Incredible work mate. Ka pai!

[@theciakilledjfk5973]

Plagiarism, by definition, is not unique. You were just fooled by a high-class hustler.

[@ivan2894]

you are a creep and she is a fraud

[@DouglasGennetten]

There is NO ONE I'd rather have you interview. She has been a top 10 favorite humans of mine for years. Thank you Sir. Thank YOU Neri!

[@bsantos9]

I think Lex also wanted this interview badly.. she is great and speaks with so much passion!

[@DiamondHandz101]

I fully agree, could you list the other 9 please? You are on to something sir

[@DouglasGennetten]

@@DiamondHandz101 Here are three that impacted my life today: Ray Kurzweil, Peter Attia, Peter Diamandis

[@ThorPalsson]

Few humans are fearless enough to make their emotions shown as Lex His introductions are always a reflection of his soul° unfortunatly, Neri will never know how deeply pleasing her voice is A voice with the power to change the world

[@aaaa-eg4ck]

she knows

[@ThorPalsson]

Your future is bright Neri@@aaaa-eg4ck

[@officialcalvinwayman]

I just have to say…it is so freaking cool that these kinds of humans exist. Her mindset gives life. ❤

[@brucelee4president783]

People still starve to death but let's see if fungi can benefit from an iPhone. Gtfoh

[@officialcalvinwayman]

@@brucelee4president783 until people don’t starve, we can’t make progress anywhere else. Right? Sml

[@Wise__guy]

⁠@@officialcalvinwaymanyou can make progress in any field you want, but if you’re not curing illness or feeding the needy then don’t say “her mind set gives life”.

[@tomy34188]

@@Wise__guy Well if you want to take it that precise than you should consider that she works with living things, like E. Coli, silkworms etc. Those organisms are given food and a space to live in. So you are wrong. Her mindset doe is indeed give life. Just not necessarily to other humans. Even though her decision to become a mother did that as well, technically.

[@officialcalvinwayman]

@@Wise__guy your mindset is toxic. We shouldn’t be like crabs pulling others down. The world is a really fucking big place, and we need people of all kinds (not just doctors but also artists. Not just philanthropists but also scientists, explorers, baristas, and grocery clerks). We shouldn’t look at someone who’s dedicated in their respective field and say “oh but there are other problems in which you’re NOT solving.” Of course she’s not solving everything. Who the fuck is? But she’s top-tier in her way. And if we all learn how to be a little like her example, maybe we can make progress in other areas that are so needed

[@toddg6548]

These are the Lex podcasts I love. Neri Oxman is a fascinating woman. Listening to her talk about what she envisions gives me hope for our species in that we are capable of producing someone such as her. Thanks Lex! More of this, please!

[@theciakilledjfk5973]

More plagiarist zionist Nazis? No thanks.

[@theciakilledjfk5973]

She didn't even do her own writing. She made it to the top because she looks beautiful and she's a connected Israeli citizen. This woman has literally participated in the genocide of children.

[@ichibanmacbean5625]

"A flaw is an increased surface area" is one of the most beautiful, incredible, and scary thing I have ever heard. What an amazing mindset. Much love ❤

[@blossom9565]

Yes, also plagiarized...

[@iancompton6494]

I was so excited to see you interview her. She is one of the most inspiring people in the world!

[@johnpaparella7345]

Every facet of her personality is capturing, fascinating and beautiful.

[@TheInternet258]

No.

[@Sebbir]

@@TheInternet258sounds like no facet of your personality is capturing, fascinating and beautiful

[@kh9242]

If only most women were like this we would have a much better dating scene.

[@15multiventure51]

That's because the interview was, of course, all about her and Lex "handled" her gently. But when she gets angry ...

[@jannichi6431]

Earth "...there's Water and Love, what else do you need?"❤️ 🏞️💙👁️🌍🌎🌏

[@Beans4feens]

She has such an amazing and upbeat thought process. It's refreshing to listen. Great podcast Lex!

[@raykane2063]

No thought process just copy and paste

[@ivan2894]

the process: 1- copy 2- paste

[@dalanium98]

lex's expression when the conversation pulls away to the more-than-human always amuses me, the scrunched forehead from the raised eyebrows and eyes open. it's so reliable

[@mathewbarta4804]

I absolutely adore the way she looks to the sky for thoughts. The Devine spark of consciousness is a roaring fire in Neri Oxman.

[@lukethemuse9921]

I never thought I'd ever see such amazing foundations, masks, & light structures in biological/computational construction, through pure natural processes. Amazing. Love this episode.

[@AWAG_FK]

Lex found his soul mate and she's already married. What an inspiring and interesting conversation. Thank you, Mr. Fridman.

[@clicheguevara5282]

I was just thinking something similar. Lol This one is definitely getting downloaded. I'm almost through my second listen in a row.

[@Tash303]

100%

[@josuecurianaiii3622]

and it happened to be Bill Ackman lol

[@kA89917]

Neri is also 47 btw, I didn’t realize that! I thought she was barely in her early 20s!! 🤯🤯🤯

[@psytek1978]

Word 😭 and she stressed the fact pretty clearly in the peak moment of quantum entanglement

[@amirascher]

Favorite quotes: "I think a flaw, think about it physically, I’m thinking about a brick that’s flawed, but in a way I think of a flaw as an increased surface area... I think of it as accessing this additional dimension of surface area that could be used for good or bad to connect, to communicate, to collaborate." "My father taught me everything I know. My mom taught me everything I feel. My grandma taught me everything I insight." I find her incredible.

[@spectator59]

This interview was a very moving, almost overwhelming experience for me. So much so, that I had to take frequent breaks to absorb what was just said. Neri isn't just brilliant, she's insightful and inspiring in what is, for me, a new and incredible way. I hope she continues to be hugely joyous and successful.

[@theciakilledjfk5973]

🤡🤡🤡 It's so funny, reading through all the comments of people who were fooled by this Con artist. I hope you feel appropriately silly.

[@theciakilledjfk5973]

😆😆😆

[@akahodgins]

I have never seen Lex so speechless. ❤❤❤. Amazing. I might watch this over and over like a new favorite song.🎉😮

[@jicajacobsonkimbreaux]

I am also in love with this absolutely divine being and I'm pretty certain that she cannot simply be human. I do hope she manages to stay around for another few thousand years in order to bring these beautifully integrated ideas to fruition! Our collective planetary soul needs this ethical connection more than ever. ❤ More love and power to you, Neri! 🙏🏼

[@theciakilledjfk5973]

She's a plagiarist. You were completely deceived.

[@irel4ever]

Jesus, take a shower.

[@TheCowthryn]

My favorite Lex interview to date. Heart and mind blown open throughout the whole conversation. Grateful.

[@bondi5000]

Lex’s expression at 24:28 is absolutely gold. It’s like he’s just been confronted by an overwhelmingly highly intellectual being with beauty to match. She, is a really fantastic speaker. 😊

[@rolandfisher]

Wow. Neri is mesmerizingly passionate, articulate, and inspiring. I was glued to the screen, listening without a break.

[@Livinghighandwise]

You forgot smoking hot ;)

[@raykane2063]

She copied and pasted her way to the top

[@David-ww2sg]

I have listened to about an hour and already I think this might be one of my favourite episodes

[@annedijkhof]

Thank you so much Lex and Neri! Some very interesting and unique answers on this complex lifes questions. I could listen to another 2 hours without a problem so i hope we will see more of her:)

[@bobpalka2085]

Nothing in my verbal repertoire could explain the enjoyable brilliance of these two. I'm left saying, thank you Lex and Neri

[@bobparker6922]

You need to go out more

[@Infoagemage]

@@bobparker6922

[@tofu8688]

@@bobparker6922 okay bob

[@bobparker6922]

@@tofu8688 If you read his comment and agree with it, you should indeed go out more

[@tofu8688]

@@bobparker6922 Come on bobby. What made you so angry? You used to be so happy when you were younger

[@benlamprecht6414]

"Finding Superman and Superwoman" What a Joy to be Alive! The sheer pleasure to be able to see two brilliant, kind, individuals, thought-dancing, celebrating humanity, curiosity and love. I will be re-watching this many, many times.

[@samanthaflower3175]

Thank you for this incredible exchange. This woman and her depth of wisdom about humanity's inextricable relationship with the world around us has reinstated my faith in the art and science of technological progress.

[@lnebres]

OMG. Who is this person and why hadn’t I encountered her before? Just 2 minutes in… and I’m utterly entranced, and hooked!

[@leestringer]

"Did you ever think of the universe as a kind of machine that designs beautiful things?" Well, there's a great example sitting right across that desk from you Lex. Good Lord. How can someone be that smart and that attractive. The universe is not fair.

[@pigmilkmusicfarm]

Plus she's 47

[@michellelavelleOT343]

This is so mind blowing to me. I approve of Neri ❤ I can’t put into words at the moment - how opened and more curious my mind is now. I want to keep opening my mind to these subjects. Incredible ❤

[@IsaacStark6]

Moments when I look for inspiration within design I search for Neri on KZbin to watch videos from her for the 10th time. To my surprise seeing a conversation with Lex. This will be good

[@silfredd]

She’s such a gift to the world. What a lovely soul and amazing brain. 🙏🏼

[@woodywood5824]

She is amazing and that amazing brain is in an incredibly beautiful body.

[@raykane2063]

She copied and pasted her way to the top

[@theciakilledjfk5973]

🤡🤡🤡

[@dotaallstars8081]

This comment didn't age well 😂😂. She Ctrl c Ctrl v her way to the top

[@ivan2894]

wikipedia is a gift to the world

[@AntoineThisdale]

Jumping in here because I listened to the podcast elsewhere. Lex, this has been one of the best podcast to date. You gotta bring this wonderful person back! This was too short!!

[@cyberpunkcomplex629]

have never seen a more magically creative connection between two, was more like seeing thoughts dance. I feel privileged to have viewed this vid lex Fridman as always.

[@dporchia1]

The chemistry between these two minds is palpable. Neri is a powerhouse of heart and mind and the first person I’ve seen to actually render Lex awestruck, as we all are who listen to this woman’s brilliance, topped with beauty and charm! Simply killer on all levels. That being said my mind projects forward into the future of what Oxman is doing with biology technology and engineering. Yes, Neri declined partnering with a Japanese company to make glowing fabrics from genetically combining silk worms and spiders for the consumer fashion industry. However, at some point one of her smart Oxman team members might get enticed into selling out Oxmans higher values and principles and help genetically engineer Earths natural order of things into irreversible monstrosities.

[@casteretpollux]

Inevitable

[@orwellknew9112]

Science is always a sword with 2 edges. I am now too old to see where this world goes in the next 20: years, but I am very concerned for my children and grand children. They are unaware of what I see is already happening. And I can only hope that it fails.

[@raykane2063]

She copied and pasted her way to the top

[@theciakilledjfk5973]

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@ABeautifulEarthForOurChildren]

Neri Oxman, I'm only half way into the podcast but you are amazing. Your enthusiasm and positivity are adorable ❤

[@griffinsdad9820]

Not the longest but potentially maybe the most beautiful advertisement I've seen in a bit. I wonder how much this interview grew their company.

[@perspicaciouscritic]

I am *loving* the idea of interspersing cutaway shots throughout the video. (Is that a new addition?) It not only helps illustrate complex information, but makes the podcast more interesting and enlivens the talk. Good evolution, @lexfridman!

[@alexanderirizarry7722]

I think it's new, and I suspect he let Oxman edit the video. It really felt like they were advertising, or even recruiting (hiring). With that said, I'm buying, and I wish I had the credentials to apply!

[@Mike-nu5lb]

I really hope not its really annoying... it detracts from seeing how they react to each other, its just distracting.. I like to see the subtly of how they respond to each other... I think the editor just felt they needed to do something to justify themselves. The beauty of this podcast is being able to see the simple conversation, listen and see them respond to each other. I dont need to see 20 images of a fly from different angles, i get it, its a electron.. i just want to see them giggle together.

[@monatomicgold]

Incredible conversation. It is also heartening to know people like Neri exist so full of love and hope to help steer the ship we call humanity through this tenuous moment of technological advancement and ecological fragility.

[@theciakilledjfk5973]

It's funny that people never actually look up the definition of "incredible". This woman is a plagiarist, just like the Harvard president.

[@Golgibaby]

Timestamp: 00:31:45 Templating. "Before you design with, you design for." A space for mutualism. Connection. Bro! Applicable across species!

[@Jsund-j7s]

These kinds of people should get much more recognition that they are actually trying to help the world. People like Neri is and will change the world, maybe not in our lifetime but an great idea will live on longer than any single human and continue to evolve!

[@choosekindness613]

Are we not going to talk about how incredibly STUNNING this woman is?? And she's 47.. looks 10 years younger

[@mikeg1877]

Certified baddie

[@estellescholtz5619]

Sigh.......

[@rockestee]

She is ONE OF MY FAVORITE ❤️ PROFESSORS saw a brilliant documentary on her years ago! omgosh i think about a project she did quite often for inspiration! Thanks Lex cant wait to see the latest here…..🎉

[@glavatazelva]

do you maybe know the name of the documentary to share it with us?

[@TheBippo5]

@@glavatazelva Could they be referencing Oxman’s documentary on youtube? Here is Neri Oxman and The Mediated Matter Group’s documentary (2020) Nature x Humanity on the official Oxman company’s youtube channel, she narrates wonderfully: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZOmgaWBptVni6ssi=zcA8wjPI6h5iR49X

[@anahitaazizi3445]

Abstract

[@rameenana]

Lex finds comfort in her voice. I can understand why.

[@kh9242]

For me it's the hair, that one lock of hair dayum.

[@rameenana]

@@kh9242 I get it. She is a very beautiful woman. What's amazing is she is intelligent and also seem to possess good moral values. Humans like that are rare. Wish I had the opportunity to engage in a conversation with her. I imagine it would be enlightening and beautiful.

[@danielbigham]

Trying to build on Neri's thoughts about imperfection as creating a context for vulnerability: One of the great features of our universe is the realization that we are part of something greater, but we are also _invited_ to take steps in that direction -- to go from being more isolated, to more connected as part of that greater something. One of the most profound ways we do that is through relationship, especially intimate relationship. In that context of being integrated with another person as a new whole, if that is going to be done in the most effective way, there needs to be appropriate vulnerability -- to be able to see and understand not only the self, but the other, not only only the light but also the imperfection and shadow.

[@Maralm]

Well put

[@bella007adb]

Great comment.

[@ShivinUnitholi]

Lex, you're lucky to get two of the all time read books by Tolstoy and Aurelius. Happy reading! This was yet another insightful podcast. Oxman is a genius.

[@theciakilledjfk5973]

No, she isn't. She made it to her position through a combination of plagiarism and because she's apparently part of a very special group that was chosen by God.

[@beerman204]

I often sense we humans are confused over love and hate, good and evil. Even unknowingly. This amazing guest, to me, is someone who has solved such confusion and chosen the goodness in life

[@chaoticembrace6984]

Wow ...my head hurts after this. She is spectacular, exceptionally Intellectual, and brutal under one dying sun's sky.

[@candreaconstantin2201]

i am almost 3 minute into the video and i felt the urge to thank you for inviting her ! beautiful both in soul and in person, in brain and in feelings ! love you both 😇😇😇

[@criscris5061]

Lex, you are the best. That face of yours that speaks without saying a single word: PERPLEXITY! You are honest and a wonderful guy. You make me laugh

[@alejandracutter3760]

Out all his insightful and interesting podcasts, this one is by far the most moving, poetic, inspiring. A true delight.

[@eduardo_dito]

Beautiful interaction, and I love how they add images and videos to support the podcast

[@akahodgins]

Can’t wait to isolate myself and watch this. Lex, you are THE BEST ❤

[@DavidWhispers]

Fun fact: My shop did some work for Neri years ago. She's a legend around here :) Thanks for an incredible ep guys 🙏🙏🔥🔥❤❤

[@explodingstardust]

This guest and the talk was so fascinating and mind-blowing I can't even imagine this world. So many creative thoughts in this conversation i don't know i am capable to even fully appreciate these ideas. Kudos Lex on bringing such an awesome guest.

[@raykane2063]

She copied and pasted her way to the top

[@BedMBreakfast]

Neri, you are inspirational and the embodiment of what love is! I saw a bee hive at the zoo recently and saw the wax on the plexiglass looked just like a cross section of the human brain. Nature is so beautiful! ❤️ Also, thank you for doing what you do!

[@SirLucidThoughts]

Love the Lex Fridman podcast ! I started for AI and physics but he has expanded with surprising podcasts with human beings who have a story to tell.

[@vitafranc]

My icon! What an inspiring and truly, completely beautiful being in every sense. So happy to see her on this podcast!

[@dawnmarie7024]

I Love Neri’s Vision... What a Beautiful Soul... All Nature wants is our Love & Respect.💓🥰💓

[@ThyCatalystRaves]

"Werk with me; not against me" - Has been one of my favorite sayings forever. Especially as a mom, I say that all of the time!

[@tessapriem2981]

The beginning and end of this episode was so beautiful. Made me teary. It was also lovely throughout!

[@johnlittle3430]

It's honestly disarming how brilliant and beautiful Oxman is. She won the lottery of life, and then some.

[@testaccount3699]

She is a fraud. Even the students at MIT don't like her. She is cosplaying as a scientist and engineer. If you know science and engineering? Nothing she says makes sense. It's double speak This is a shame because MIT has other beautiful female professors actually in engineering and science departments. She got her PhD because her godfather was her advisor. She isn't even well-liked in her home department where she got her PhD. They knew she was a nepo baby. And let's not forget the Epstein connection. Lex was probably encouraged to do this because Bill Ackman (her husband) runs in these tech circles.

[@Ms123kill]

pretty much my first thought was some human beings are just superior like it or not.

[@sanja7744]

I love how, at 1:33:45, she talked about fire as the first technology and as one of the first things that brought humans together in a community. It emerged from vulnerability and the desire to stay warm. This also reminded me of the story of anthropologist Margaret Mead, who said that one of the first signs of civilization was a healed femur. That, too, came from a place of vulnerability that motivated one human to help another. I think it ties in nicely with Neri's idea that love is a driving force in the world. I also believe that, especially considering the femur story, love and care ensured the survival of a species. It all began with that particular human with the broken femur being saved, which may have eventually led to our entire species surviving as a result of the decision made by a human who helped, only to have that lesson passed down from generation to generation.

[@anthonyhowrard526]

We have lost so much not being at one with nature. Nothing more calming and primeval as sitting in the countryside with friends or family sat around a fire.

[@sherrysandor-kelly57]

More like the 'Axemakers Gift.'

[@UnderOneSky]

Probably the most relevant and important talk of our time. "The secret to one thing is through the lens of another." Pure GOLD.

[@SimplyJuanny]

The fact that this video hasn’t gotten 1 million views shows something extremely tragic about society. This interview has everything you could want feeling, knowledge, chemistry, inspiration, passion, and clarity, the world is missing out on this one for sure. I come back about every couple of months to be inspired again.

[@JoeHowAreYou]

The

[@existessentials]

Lex chats to a human that is living their maximum potential! My mind is blown to pieces. So inspiring.

[@gregfitzsimmons4724]

When I think life may be boring I need yo remind myself this podcast and its subject matter and people exist

[@Irish.liquorice]

🩵

[@arturstypukowski1279]

What is its subject matter?

[@JM-st1le]

​@@arturstypukowski1279Everything?

[@nidhibr]

Let me LISTEN to this podcast.. wait!!! Iam going to watch it!

[@itsMirro]

You know its going to be a banger when the first sentence is "Let's start with the universe".

[@yorterone1]

I am stumped! The beauty and elegance she speaks with is unsurpassed! I was riveted from the start. Mind blowing stuff. This will take a lot of time for me to unpack, but I feel I might need to jump horses here from the heady theoretical physics(the crap I thought I really liked) to everything she just glossed over. What a tremendous human being! I think I just re-set my moral compass a bit! I’m just blown away! … Wow! Thank you both! Cheers!

[@normadenys8089]

This woman is so brilliant love her imagination applied to science , art, ethics … love the way she is , thank for interviewing her 👍I want to read her book

[@ChristopherRyans]

What a great way to spend our time listening to these amazing and interesting humans

[@codyclifford3436]

Lex!!! Love all your work but this was by far my favorite episode yet. Great interview, great topic, excellent mix of the science and the poetry of this beautiful universe we live in.

[@zissisp2521]

Lex... here's one of your Very Best conversations/guests -What an incredible energy. Thank you

[@SpirosPolikandriotis]

So glad I found Neri through you Lex. What a fantastic person. So inspirational

[@karolina2293]

The work of this women is extraordinary… she asks the questions we all allow ourselves to ask in all our specialities

[@theothermebutwhoami]

Hard to convey with such definition given the totality of your work, but this may be one the best conversations you've given us. Speechless. Incredible. Beyond boundaries. Well done, Lex & Neri.

[@createdjustforyoubypaul]

Lex PLEASE interview more artists!!!!

[@roguehy]

Thank you for interviewing Miss Oxman! She is one of the most incredible designers to ever walk this planet. These are the people we should be celebrating and looking up to. Forget Post Malone and Doja Cat. Kids NEED better influencers, and they exist, but they aren’t flashing their asses on TV so they don’t get the publicity they should be.

[@sreeragrnair3636]

True, but why the Post Malone hate though?

[@bridgham1]

Yeah, but if Neri flashed her ass that would still be awesome...

[@maviemac]

Lex, I’m a new subscriber but I have consumed much of your content. You are very interesting. Neri is brilliant and differentiates her passions to bring everything she does to an incalculable synergy, that which is LOVE. Please bring on more incredible women. ❤

[@vct1040]

I’m so glad that Lex is back! He is such a great interviewer!

[@ralfhildenbrand2698]

You are both amazing. Fascinating people discussing fascinating things. I love you.