Final Value Theorem (Solved Problem)

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@mikeybolts4278
@mikeybolts4278 4 жыл бұрын
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@HimmatSingh-ju8jk
@HimmatSingh-ju8jk Жыл бұрын
1. Function have complex poles with real part so I think the output should have be defined for final value theorem. i.e is 4 option (d) 2 (d)
@raghunandanmutalikdesai299
@raghunandanmutalikdesai299 4 жыл бұрын
Ans is (d) for both homework problems
@darshanrs399
@darshanrs399 3 жыл бұрын
correct !
@inderjitsaini9303
@inderjitsaini9303 2 жыл бұрын
How though? Like I got -1 +/- j4
@kulasekarans5428
@kulasekarans5428 2 жыл бұрын
@@inderjitsaini9303 I think as it its mentioned that an unit step input is applied, multiply the given G(s) with 1/s and as per the Final value theorem multiply with s in the numerator. s and 1/s will get cancelled and now put s=0 as per the theorem. You will get 20/5 = 4.
@kulasekarans5428
@kulasekarans5428 2 жыл бұрын
@@inderjitsaini9303 for factorization you should have obtained -1 +/- 2j I guess.
@PARi0070
@PARi0070 Жыл бұрын
​@@kulasekarans5428 Final value theorem applicable when system given in OLTF here in Q it is in CLTF
@iamblue8272
@iamblue8272 4 жыл бұрын
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@makisxatzimixas2372
@makisxatzimixas2372 4 ай бұрын
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@PowerShellWizard
@PowerShellWizard 26 күн бұрын
For the second problem you could "shortcut" by looking at the characteristic equation for R-H necessary criteria. No vanishing powers of s, check. Alternating sign for the final term (-2) therefore system is NOT stable and hence output is expected to blow up, and as such be unbounded. :)
@makelearningeasy111
@makelearningeasy111 2 жыл бұрын
Answer1: 4 Answer2: unbounded
@evanbyrne7020
@evanbyrne7020 10 ай бұрын
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@wadoudazer6906
@wadoudazer6906 11 ай бұрын
&² thank you for this beautiful course , i found the first question 4 , because lim s*G*(1/s) (when s=>0) = 4 and there are two poles in the left hand , the second question we have a pole in origin and another one in the right , so its unbounded due to the right one , because one pole in the origin will have no effect , if we have more poles in origin this is a problem , i hope i am right and keep going !
@darshanrs399
@darshanrs399 3 жыл бұрын
please do upload answers for homework questions so that we can verify with ours!
@komalchaudhari1753
@komalchaudhari1753 2 жыл бұрын
Got us in the first half ngl 😂
@ujjwalartsiit
@ujjwalartsiit Жыл бұрын
Explained very well ! Thank you 😊 sir!
@globalglimpses786
@globalglimpses786 3 жыл бұрын
Ans D) for both question
@RajithaWijesooriya
@RajithaWijesooriya 2 ай бұрын
Answer (d) for both
@mnada72
@mnada72 2 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent course I hope you complete. Thank you
@PARi0070
@PARi0070 Жыл бұрын
First Q CLTF given Break into OLTF =20/S²+2S+5-20 =20/S²+2S-15
@pramudithathilakarathne2301
@pramudithathilakarathne2301 8 ай бұрын
I did so and worked for the OLTF which you have indicated above. When that happens the steady state output with final value thearom can not be applied since one out of two poles becomes positive in 20/(S+5)(S-3). am i not correct?
@Abvht1656
@Abvht1656 7 ай бұрын
Homework Q1- 4 Q2- unbounded
@eruditecoder5215
@eruditecoder5215 Жыл бұрын
Q1: 4 Q2: unbounded
@عايشبصمت-ح1ي
@عايشبصمت-ح1ي Жыл бұрын
hw junction; q1: b) 4. q2: unbonded
@s.m.senses7199
@s.m.senses7199 2 жыл бұрын
thanks Sir🙏❤
@aaqibrashidle6655
@aaqibrashidle6655 3 жыл бұрын
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@vineetsingh6941
@vineetsingh6941 Жыл бұрын
In 1st Q it is given as CLTF so why aren't we considering the original factor as told earlier for calculating transfer fuction?
@ahmedalzaabi5848
@ahmedalzaabi5848 2 жыл бұрын
Answer d for both
@liamkneeson8866
@liamkneeson8866 Жыл бұрын
Great video thank you
@samiranchanda2459
@samiranchanda2459 Жыл бұрын
Good
@zahidhasankhoka1649
@zahidhasankhoka1649 2 жыл бұрын
1.D 2.D
@PunmasterSTP
@PunmasterSTP 2 жыл бұрын
Right-handed pole? More like "The virtues of this channel I extol!" Thanks for making so many high-quality videos, and sharing them for free!
@hadisyuaib8613
@hadisyuaib8613 2 жыл бұрын
for problem 1 I got 4, but can anyone tell me if the CLTF had a factor in the calculation?
@mm_31
@mm_31 Жыл бұрын
No factor would be there
@satyamyadavvlogs3185
@satyamyadavvlogs3185 2 жыл бұрын
and d for both
@b4ms142
@b4ms142 4 жыл бұрын
First Homework answer is :4 Second one is : -1 Am I right?
@piyushsoni4100
@piyushsoni4100 4 жыл бұрын
In 2nd example, the system T.F is having one pole in R.H.P, it is unbounded.
@b4ms142
@b4ms142 4 жыл бұрын
@@piyushsoni4100 should we make Lim s.Y(s) s->0
@piyushsoni4100
@piyushsoni4100 4 жыл бұрын
@@b4ms142 we can't apply final value theorem for unbounded functions, that's what we discussed in the previous lecture.
@b4ms142
@b4ms142 4 жыл бұрын
@@piyushsoni4100 Thank you
@Earthwrmio
@Earthwrmio 3 жыл бұрын
@@b4ms142 how did you solved the first one can you please please explain it please!
@nandyalanaveenreddy7598
@nandyalanaveenreddy7598 3 жыл бұрын
Sir for first home work problem it can be unbounded know sir as we get poles on jw axis
@debdutmajumder82
@debdutmajumder82 2 жыл бұрын
how to calculate poles in the imaginary axis??
@barish.pakoray
@barish.pakoray 3 жыл бұрын
Option a is correct... And fir 2nd it is - 1
@radhas.1171
@radhas.1171 Жыл бұрын
1.d
@shriram5494
@shriram5494 2 жыл бұрын
Damn I fell for the trick both the times. First I thought it was B and then C. Goddamnit
@bugracetin3422
@bugracetin3422 11 ай бұрын
Why we said input 1/s I couldn’t understand.
@afaqahmad4518
@afaqahmad4518 9 ай бұрын
since we are given our system in frequency domain ...and input is unit step u(t) ..so we need to take input also in frequency domain before multiplying which is laplace of u(t)=1/s
@anandharsh1773
@anandharsh1773 2 жыл бұрын
Ans(d) for both problems
@AmanGupta-wb8mj
@AmanGupta-wb8mj Жыл бұрын
Mine was 500th like... 😊
@devilking1673
@devilking1673 2 жыл бұрын
4
@triposat
@triposat 4 жыл бұрын
Please upload the notes of DATA STRUCTURE as soon as possible
@dhruvkanthaliya9052
@dhruvkanthaliya9052 4 жыл бұрын
👌👌
@pawankpx
@pawankpx 2 жыл бұрын
Both are unbound output so final value is not definite .
@devilking1673
@devilking1673 2 жыл бұрын
D
@karunasonawane6682
@karunasonawane6682 2 жыл бұрын
1st = 4 2ns = -1
@javeriashaikh5274
@javeriashaikh5274 2 жыл бұрын
how ? can you explain to me, please
@anti-tankartur677
@anti-tankartur677 Жыл бұрын
2nd ans is undefined. it has a right sided pole
@EhsanKeshavarz-wi8pb
@EhsanKeshavarz-wi8pb Жыл бұрын
the second system is unbounded since it has a pole in RHP
@108ahah
@108ahah 4 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@aaqibrashidle6655
@aaqibrashidle6655 3 жыл бұрын
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@3bdo3id
@3bdo3id Жыл бұрын
DD
@gaudok3281
@gaudok3281 Жыл бұрын
mf had us in first half and second half
@mohamedelaminenehar333
@mohamedelaminenehar333 4 жыл бұрын
😊👏😍
@azizouldkherroubi4178
@azizouldkherroubi4178 3 жыл бұрын
a7laf w nagaz?
@justpaulo
@justpaulo 4 жыл бұрын
HW: (d) (d) (d)(d) double D 😁
@amangoheer8824
@amangoheer8824 Ай бұрын
terrible video. atleast explain properly
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