NetBSD 10 BETA Review

[@mucklus]

It is symptomatic that all BSD distribution reviewers avoid setting up wi-fi. And I understand why.

[@NitroNilz]

He literally says he has an Ethernet cable plugged in.

[@voornaam3191]

No, in FreeBSD 10 my laptop wifi works like clockwork. You should try, before you say nay.

[@videosenjoyer]

If you have a thinkpad, even 2023 models work on OpenBSD

[@SamuTheFrog]

Linux user here, but I've been intrigued with BSD lately. I don't ever foresee myself daily driving a BSD, but it would be fun to dabble with on a seperate rig

[@timhowe2968]

Really looking forward to 10 release to try on a few things.

[@eulondon]

Congrats on installing on real hardware. Most videos only show VMs where everything "just works". I rather see videos like these even if the video quality goes down a bit.

[@eulondon]

However I found the installer complicated compared to OpenBSD which is pretty straightforward. This will surely help. I want to try it out to see why azalia (intel audio) doesn't do sound over hdmi on openbsd. And since the code from that came shared from NetBsd wanna see if they figure out.

[@techiechapchannel]

Thanks. I hope your able to give NetBSD a go although might be worth waiting till the full release. They seem to be heading in the right direction

[@Lightbeerer]

I'm curious whether suspend & resume works in NetBSD on your Dell laptop. I also have a Dell laptop, but with FreeBSD. While it seems to suspend OK, it definitely won't resume! Also, what about power consumption, core temperature and fan noise?

[@mercster]

I like *BSD quite a lot... ran FleaBSD for a few years as my personal machine in the 2000s, and even put i t into production once. However, at this point.. I think these are best used in server environments, where resume/suspend is meaningless. Use the right tool for the right job, and all that.

[@rockyoliver8459]

I had an issue where I tried to install NetBSD on real hardware once, on my HP Z230, and I had a problem with the onboard USB 3.0 controllers. I needed dedicated USB 2.0, but I didn't have it at the time. So I installed FreeBSD instead; but I've always liked NetBSD a lot.

[@voornaam3191]

Man, be GLAD you got usb 3.0, on old laptops that usb 2 is slow like you don't want that.

[@rockyoliver8459]

​@@voornaam3191 Oh trust me I am glad, I have several laptops that only have USB 2.0, and they are as slower than a salted snail! But thankfully the computer had an express card slot, so I got an express card to usb 3.0 expansion and added it to it. So that helped a lot, I've since moved on to just newer laptops and desktops and all my hardware is pretty new, and sometimes the latest.

[@liquidmobius]

I appreciate your time making the video. My personal thoughts on NetBSD is that it's a little easier to use than OpenBSD as a desktop OS, but absolutely horrible on memory usage. 855MB on idle with just a base install and absolutely nothing running and about 1.6GB idle on xfce with nothing running. That has to be the most memory consumption I've seen from ANY *nix OS I've ever ran. For comparison, OpenBSD runs at literally 35MB on idle and about 200MB idle on xfce.

[@christopherorman5769]

FreeBSD uses zfs, typically. OpenBSD does not. ZFS uses more memory and does so for cache purposes. When you install FreeBSD you can choose not to use ZFS. However, from a performance standpoint I find FreeBSD with zfs superior. I also think the ram usage readings people derive from neofetch are often quite wrong. For example, neofetch under reports ram use in Arch Linux big time. Anyway, Google memory usage in FreeBSD for more info, but that FreeBSD uses memory isn't really an issue, and it dumps cache not needed. But I've never seen it burn through all 8 or 16gb on my modest laptops.

[@liquidmobius]

@@christopherorman5769 You didn't say anything I don't already know. And I don't use neofetch to measure RAM.

[@christopherorman5769]

@@liquidmobius then you know about memory use in freebsd, know it isnt a big deal, and know how zfs works. So presumably no need to comment?

[@christopherorman5769]

@@liquidmobius and you then knew comparing openbsd with freebsd isn't a fair comparison if one is running zfs.

hello i want to play audio over btsco0 but i always get error messages. im hsing usb dongle which is working fine and i trying with my bluetooth headphone but i can't recording or playing audio. the error message after try to record audio is btsco0 device time out and after try to play audio with audioplay -d /dev/audio1 example.au or example.wav i get write error.

[@hitechfl]

NetBSD is a great OS for mission critical servers but I would never try to use it as a end user OS. For those i prefer Zorin OS or Mint Linux. I started with BSDi, then moved on to try FreeBSD, OpenBSD, & NetBSD. For many years.. Years ago i ran a small hosting company where most of our servers ran NetBSD & FreeBSD, 1 ran OpenBSD, and then one running SuSE before it became OpenSuSE.

[@accelerat0r747]

This ( pause ) is ( pause ) pretty ( pause ) good ( pause ) dude....

[@SamuTheFrog]

He's secretly a robot... don't question it

[@tornadot2025]

Does NetBSD 10 still use tons of memory to the point of freezing the entire system and requiring a hard reset? I'd love to give it another go, but if they haven't figured out the memory problem, then I'll stick with Linux.

[@NitroNilz]

pk-gin - My first thought was a jinn (a spirit 👻 or geany. Like a daemon 😈). Gin is good too 🍷 Love it! Cheers!

[@voornaam3191]

Hey dude, what image did you download and what tool did you use, getting that usbstick actually boot? When I download a Linux Mint iso, it works. But somehow all these BSD images are wrong. I just got a FreeBSD dvd iso booting and installing. Still, I want NetBSD and this image CURSE is a pain in the you know. HOW did you boot that? Everybody skips that CURSE, and it pisses me off. No explanations, nothing, you all pass that hurdle and I really have no clue. HELP! Ha, seen the description. Gonna try.