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[@michelleparmenter4431]

Mary never said - (paraphrase) this is not possible. Mary always believed God. She said - HOW can this be. She was asking HOW God would work this, not IF He would. It is an ESSENTIAL part of theology & yet I read that there was many theologians consulted on this film. Not sure where they got their training!

[@GuadalupePicasso]

To further clarify, Mary was asking how God would do this because she was a consecrated virgin.

[@livialaurenzano4081]

Yes Mary always believed God . Please see the Douay Rheims Bible-Luke chapter 1 verse 34 : Mary replied “how shall this be done because I know not man?” This is the best translation -more accurate one. “How can this be“ carries with it the implication of doubt. But Mary did not doubt God. “how shall this be “ implies belief and acceptance, but with the curiosity as to the mechanism that God would use. The intricacies of proper and exacting/ literal translation are so very important. Ancient translators by and large did literal, word for word translations of Sacred Scripture. However so many modern translators of Catholic bibles don’t do this and without literal adherence to the original words, meanings or teachings can be drastically changed. I would respectfully suggest you use the Douay Rheims Catholic bible based on the Latin Vulgate of St. Jerome who finished his work about 405 A.D. Saint Jerome was a native Greek speaker (the language in which most of the New Testsment books were written)and he spoke Latin and Hebrew, ( the language in which most of the Old Testament books were written) and he had access to ancient 2nd and 3rd century Hebrew and Greek manuscripts that no longer exist and was 300 years closer to the actual events. This would indicate that his would be the most trustworthy translation. I would respectfully suggest you get a copy of the pamphlet “Which Bible Should You Read” byThomas A . Nelson. It gives an excellent historical overview of the subject with examples of problematic passages created by modern translators by comparing them to the Douay Rheimes version. And by the way, it isn’t just the improper translation of the text, but it is also the footnotes in modern translations that exacerbate this problem. God bless and Godspeed!

[@ronDCM]

consulted, does not necessarily mean they were listened to.

[@annemarieelizabethrosevolo4366]

​@@livialaurenzano4081I consider the newer Bibles to be like a starter home 🏠 or the starting to read the Holy Bible. The Douray Rhems Holy Bible 📖 is more like once you are into the Holy Bible, step up to a more schoolerly setting.

[@AlexejSvirid]

This is a way of Christ, "While he was yet speaking to the multitudes, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, seeking to speak to him. And one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, seeking to speak to thee. But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? And he stretched forth his hand towards his disciples, and said, Behold, my mother and my brethren! For whosoever shall do the will of my Father who is in heaven, he is my brother, and sister, and mother." (ASV+ Matthew 12: 46-50) Family of Christ are christians, not nazis. This is the God's word, 1Corinthians 11: 3: "But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God." Chist is submissive to God. Ancient greek word "christ" means "anointed/appointed person". Name "Jesus" means "Jehovah is salvation". This is Jesus' prayer and Jehovah's answer, John 12: 28: "Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again." The name of Jehovah is glorified and will be glorified! :-) A lot of believers await for the God's Judgment and do hate His witnesses... "So, you're stating that you ain't prostitute, but the faithful wife of anonymous trinity of the Husband? I'm so sorry about that unfortunate misunderstanding, ma'am..." The God sees and remembers everything then there will be the Judgment. Exodus 20: 14: "Thou shalt not commit adultery." Here is a Christ's question, Mathew 15: 3: "But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?" Malachi 2: 1-4: "And now, O ye priests, this commandment is for you. If ye will not hear, and if ye will not lay it to heart, to give glory unto my name, saith Jehovah of hosts, then will I send the curse upon you, and I will curse your blessings; yea, I have cursed them already, because ye do not lay it to heart. Behold, I will rebuke your seed, and will spread dung upon your faces, even the dung of your feasts; and ye shall be taken away with it. And ye shall know that I have sent this commandment unto you, that my covenant may be with Levi, saith Jehovah of hosts." (ASV) A women say "the Husband has no name". Another ones say "the Husband has many names". Some of women "love the Husband in all his manifestations" like: neighbour, taxi driver, coworker, and so forth. Some women in a Husband-fearing way call him "H-D"... But, all of those prostitutes say "the Husband is the only". Their prostitution has created another women saying "there is no Husband at all". Then they even talk about "trinity of the Husband" and they are not against "the Son taking the Husband's place". In the same way religious prostitutes try to hide their disgusting fornication with different gods. Furthermore, a correct pronunciation of the Name is unknown now. This is the “loyalty” of traitors! Here is the God's word spoken through Moses, Deuteronomy 11: 16-17: "Take heed to yourselves, that your heart be not deceived, and ye turn aside, and serve other gods, and worship them; And then the LORD's wrath be kindled against you, and he shut up the heaven, that there be no rain, and that the land yield not her fruit; and lest ye perish quickly from off the good land which the LORD giveth you." So, the God says there are other gods, but blind leaders of blind lead people into trap. Names of an idols/false gods are well known: Zeus, Rempha/Chiun, Aurora, Baal, Moloch, and many others. "Jesus" means "Jehovah is salvation". This is the name of Christ real christians are hated for. "HalleluJah" means "Praze Jah" (Jehovah). Psalm 83: 18: "That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth." (KJV) The problem is Devil runs the world. He is liar and murderer. This is the reason why liars feel so good while righteous people are persecuted. That's why we've got the Gospel about the God's kingdom. Jehovah would put everything in order. He has anointed the king, Jesus Christ. The dead will be resurected and we'll meet our beloved ones again! :-)

[@theresarezac7502]

why did they consut Muslim leaders for accuracy about Jesus mama? They dont have any authority on the subject at all!!

[@Gromobran]

Lol 😂 you are one of those people. Hater

[@ChauwaPerera]

@@Gromobran Mary in Quran is directly copied from gnostic gospels and other 2nd and 3rd centaury heretical teachings and directly contradict bible and holy tradition but looking at the trailer of this film I didn't noticed anything from Islamic teachings about Mary.

[@paramedic135]

​@@Gromobranur gay

[@John2verse5]

​@@Gromobran "Go and sin no more"

[@davec332011]

The quran says Mary is the daughter of Amran which would make her the sister of Moses 😂😂😂

[@KeyboardSourceError]

NONETHELESS, Hail Mary full of grace, the Lord is with you!

[@John2verse5]

Nonetheless ? Ave MARÍA🌹

[@oreopickles3472]

Holy Mary Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen.

[@eagleswings5693]

Got that right

[@EkbalHussain-ei6su]

Blessed are you among the women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb jesus holy Mary mother of God pray for us sinner now and the hour of our death amen

[@sammygomes7381]

but she was not full of grace, she was "favored with grace". If Mary was full of grace she could have died for our sins.

[@911theanonymous]

The best way to know our precious Lady is to pray your rosary and have a true devotion to her. She will reveal herself to you and you will fall in love with her as your Mother. She will hold your hand and put it into the hand of her beloved Son and you will get know him better than you could’ve by yourself. Hail Mary!❤

[@tomthumb3880]

Praying to Mary does nothing.

[@Dienekes678]

​@@tomthumb3880 The battle of Lepanto disagrees with you. You'd likely be called Muhammad, not Tom, if not for the power of the Rosary 😊

[@johnseaberg5028]

@@tomthumb3880That’s on you

[@elizabethv_royalsfan]

AMEN!!

[@Scb30476]

@@tomthumb3880there is enmity between Mary and the devil genesis says so she is also the mother of God and our mother so if i was you i would look for Her

[@clattereffect]

I don't get why Muslims would be consulted for this film, as it took place before Islam?

[@Gromobran]

Jesus is very important for them, its the one of the most important prophet in islam as i understand. I think its called Isa in arabic and Mary is Meyremor something.

[@ChauwaPerera]

@@Gromobran Mary in Quran is directly copied from gnostic gospels and other 2nd and 3rd centaury heretical teachings and directly contradict bible and holy tradition but looking at the trailer of this film I didn't noticed anything from Islamic teachings about Mary.

[@John2verse5]

​@@Gromobran Defending muslims smh. How long would a woman like you survive in a muslin controlled country ?

[@donovan8747]

True that. They even think the bible was corrupted. Would be great to see their own film on Maryam and see how it goes😃

[@aclark903]

@@donovan8747Left liberal organizations like Netflix are more concerned with profits than with truth. There are billions of Muslim potential customers. They bend backwards to please everyone & end up probably pleasing very few.

[@martincatalan1247]

In many episodes , it made me cry to imagine the painful life of Mother Mary and my Lord Jesus Christ .

[@RedRiverMan]

"old men don't walk to Egypt" that was the best quote. until then I hadn't thought about this one more connection to St. Joseph the Dreamer of the OT and St. Joseph of Nazareth...they both had to go to Egypt! The Bible is real and the Catholic Church holds its wisdom so deeply over the centuries!

[@raymondkinsella2484]

Anne Catherine Emmerich said he was 44. And he was very handsome!

[@MV-wv8xz]

44 year olds, even then, are capable of walking long distances.

[@raymondkinsella2484]

@ of course! You’re in your prime in your 40s. I think.

[@julianpauls98]

What about Abraham?

[@pamelahermano9298]

@@raymondkinsella2484 okay so Joseph was 44 and Mary was like 17(ish)? Yeah, he was definitely her protector rather than her husband in the traditional sense. I do remember as well reading St. Bridget’s revelations and she did describe seeing Joseph and described him as “an old man”, but he could have just been grey which many men in their forties are. They didn’t have the option of hair dye back then I would imagine.

[@Franz-80]

Never trust Netflix for making a Catholic movie.

[@ant9771]

They went out to Jews and Muslim's to get information on Mary . Yea that's gonna be a s*** show. haha

[@Jade-902]

Never trust any catholic making a Catholic film

[@waynecornell-w5u]

@@ant9771 ever read the Quran? Mary is mentioned in it!

[@sammygomes7381]

or a Christian movie.

[@lilianochanolay3539]

The moment I found out that it isn't produced by Angel Studios I immediately knew that it is going to be a disappointment

[@pamelahermano9298]

Okay, I just gave the “Mary” movie a chance. Here’s what I think… The good: the production value was excellent! The casting was great! This might be the first movie with Mary, that didn’t distract me about the casting of Mary. The actress was perfect for the role. I’m glad that they were respectful with the relationship between Mary and Joseph (they pretty much showed it as a chaste relationship). I liked how Joseph was very heroic in this film. Mary wasn’t a girlboss like I feared they’d make her. Anthony Hopkins as Herod was good fun! The bad: they had no theological consultants on this movie and it showed! Things about Mary that are outright in the Bible were neglected or changed. I won’t list them here out of respect for spoilers, but there’s a lot. I don’t mind creative license for things not found in scripture, but there’s a ton of things that were in scripture and were changed for no reason. They couldn’t even get the chronology of events right… the Presentation in the Temple came after the slaughtering of the infants by Herod in this film, it was supposed to be the other way around. The Angel Gabriel was creepy! I get that we don’t know how angels looked, but was just disappointed with how the Angel was portrayed. There were also scenes of Mary that were “out of character” so to speak from what we know of her as being the humblest of creatures. There was a scene in which she spoke up to one of the Priests in the temple that didn’t really come across as humble, but I suppose that’s quibbling. In summary, the movie is definitely worth a view so you can form your own opinion. It’s fine for its entertainment value… but definitely not a religiously accurate portrayal of the events leading up to Christmas. Also, if they’re gonna make a movie about Mary, you can’t end it with Jesus only being 40 days old… like Mary’s biggest trial was at the foot of the cross. I don’t think you can really make a movie about her without that part of her life.

[@seventone4039]

Sourcecode wasn't Just the bible but also the scriptures of Tradition, which mention and described her upbringing and even deatth and ascesion into heaven.

[@pamelahermano9298]

@ that wasn’t the issue I was referring to. For example, in the film, it was Mary’s mother who told her that her cousin Elizabeth was pregnant. In the Bible it already depicts exactly how Mary found out (through Gabriel). I didn’t see the need for them to change this.

[@elizabethv_royalsfan]

I like how they did the angel Gabriel in the Jesus of Nazareth miniseries from the 1970s. you did not hear the angel or see the angel, but it’s implied that Mary could hear and see the angel.

[@pamelahermano9298]

@ for the narrative of this Netflix film, I don’t think that would have worked, you’ll understand once you see it… but really, they could have done a better job with the look of the Angel… it looked more like a demon honestly.

[@sammygomes7381]

I couldn't get passed the first 5 minutes of lies. Tell me did they show Christ's brothers, James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas?

[@jeromevillanueva2207]

Mary is not afraid of the evil one. It's the other way around.

[@crowbar9566]

The devil and the fallen angels did not even know the identity of the Messiah untill the end of Christs ministry. God made it so the holy family could not be seen by demons so as to keep them safe and they couldd live without constant harassment. The devil should not have been in the movie at all.

[@sammygomes7381]

Why? Satan has millions of people worshipping Mary rather than Christ.

[@Richie-rs3wp]

Lol if you're referring to Catholics, you're mistaken. That's another lie from the evil one. ​@@sammygomes7381

[@thehitomiboy7379]

​@@sammygomes7381Son of satan

[@bendover9620]

​@@sammygomes7381I pray that you see the error in your ways before it's too late.

[@this_name_is_not_available6923]

This is made by Hollywood so I never expected accuracy and actual events to be followed.

[@yrd814]

Listen, if you are a true Catholic this movie will not change anything about your faith! It is a great production and there were parts of the movie from the Bible that really moved me. Now, if a young person with no faith at all watches this movie it might picked their curiosity to learn about Jesus and the holy family. So yes I will totally recommend this movie.

[@michaelmccurry6279]

As a young person who constantly battles with his faith, Mary is an inspiration as is Joseph. They are the epitome of true faith and love. I have never felt my heart hurt so much after watching a movie yet be filled with so much love for all our brothers and sisters.

[@jonah9861]

That’s a mature standpoint.

[@waynecornell-w5u]

Just Curious is there any documentation on when Mary Died and where she died?

[@anthonythomas1504]

Baloney. True means true. A true Catholic would skip this garbage.

[@anthonythomas1504]

Baloney and why censor comments? True Catholics would not watch anything on Netflix.

[@_halogen_]

Mary is a woman of great faith. Seeing her portrayed as distraught doesn’t sit well with me. This might as well just be a movie about Herod. I couldn’t finish it-I had to stop. Also, Joseph and Mary's meeting at the river gave off Romeo and Juliet vibes, lol.

[@aclark903]

#SevenSorrowsofMary

[@elizabethv_royalsfan]

@@aclark903 yes but they may not have portrayed her in the correct way of doing the seven sorrows

[@pauldavies5611]

“It works very well dramatically in a Hollywood sense”. That’s enough reason for me not to watch it.

[@amysill3815]

It’s very good. If we are looking for perfection in this world, we’re not going to find it. I believe this film will lead many souls to Christ.

[@pauldavies5611]

@ Thank you, Mother Teresa. Just kidding. You may be right.

[@sammygomes7381]

@@amysill3815 or more people worshipping Mary.

[@pauldavies5611]

@sammygomes Possibly, but can we not learn far more about our Blessed Mother from the Bible than anything Hollywood could ever hope to reveal?

[@sammygomes7381]

@@pauldavies5611 How can one learn far more about "our blessed mother" as the bible mentions no such person. Ther is the mother of Jesus, James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas who was called blessed, but that's about it.

[@LindaCEM]

Very disappointing. Here’s my review: I watched Mary on Netflix and had to turn it off before the ending. I know there is creative license when filming, but this was absolutely unbelievably UNBIBLICAL. There were parts that I could see as possible such as her being given to God as an infant. Also, evil was represented very clearly and, after satan, Herod was the worst. However, the Angel Gabriel was creepy and not at all how angels are described in the bible. Furthermore, Mary and Joseph were depicted in a way that made them less following God's will and more as super heroes. It just made my heart hurt. It's thought provoking but I feel people who do not know Mary as our blessed Mother will not know her any better after watching this. What a waste of talent and creativity!

[@Gromobran]

In future please don’t watch movies. You are obviously for documentaries only. It’s a MOVIE, an ART for God sake! Chill out

[@John2verse5]

​@ChubbyKittyMeow "Go and sin no more"

[@ludwigvanbeethoven8164]

It’s okay. After the triumph of the Immaculate Heart, every movie will be under jurisdiction of Catholic morals and I’m sure the best Catholic movies we will get will be better than The Passion or The Prince of Egypt. This movie will be obscure in 4 months.

[@susanc4622]

The trouble is that people "learn" from what the see.​@ChubbyKittyMeow

[@L.J.01]

​@@Gromobran You clearly missed the fact that this was a review, which is subjective. No need to get upset, in your own words, chill.

[@ChannelStarface]

I was skeptical once I saw the Netflix stamp on it

[@drlarryjohnson7880]

The guest's comments are very vague and not helpful at all. Having watched the movie with my daughter here are our conclusions: The movie is nicely done, cinematically. If you know absolutely nothing about the Christian faith, you can watch this movie and say it's worth the money you might have paid in a movie theater. That is the good part. Now the bad part, if you are a knowledgeable Christian (Means you actually know your Bible -- the true canon accepted by all branches of Christianity -- not just the ones you pick and choose for your sectarian purposes), and you know actual Christian history, not legends. Then you will be horrified by this movie as a complete Christian history disaster. Top of the list that this movie should be watched and recommended with extreme caution, the story is based on the false, non-canonical work called the Protoevenagelium of James. This work has been condemned by the early Church multiple times. It's a late work, composed some time in the late 100s A.D. And it purports to be written by the brother of the Lord, James. But James (The Brother of the Lord) was martyred between 64-67 A.D. Some near 100+ years earlier. The Earliest reference we have to the book from a Church Father, Origen, in the 250s, condemned the book. The Bishop of Rome (Pope Innocent in 405 Anathematized the Book) and Christian councils condemned the book. The Orthodox Church declared the book apocryphal. That said, for some strange reason, some say it has some "useful" things in it, which makes absolutely no sense. To the point that the repeatedly condemned work has wormed its way into certain church theologies and liturgical parts. Bottom line, the movie is not based on the Apostolic Witness. If you want to let your older kids see it (as I did with my daughter), sit down with them and enjoy the movie but you should be able to point out all the timeline errors, outright fabrications, falsehoods and artistic license run amok. I agree with those who condemn the portrayal of the Angel Gabriel -- he looks extremely creepy and not in line with the Apostolic Witness. The movie essentially butchers the nativity story found in the gospel of Luke and Mathew. There is no Magnificat even alluded to by Mary, no shepherds in the field sung to by the angels, nothing but a hint at the Magi from the East, and there's no Gold, Frankincense and Myhr. Even the scene of the presentation of Our Lord in the temple is butchered in word and sequence. Finally, Joseph is a violent man in this movie, not even close to the "righteous" cautious man described by Luke and Mathew.

[@Bryan-s5i6c]

It was a timed segment. They are very limited to what ideas they can get across in a couple of minutes. I would like to hear his thoughts as well. God bless

[@neoblackcyptron]

David was a man of war. His descendant Joseph from the House of David a royal bloodline could carry his ancestors traits. I liked that portrayal of Joseph, the scene with the sling is a subtle nod to David.

[@jmorra]

We don't even learn Simeon's name. Anna gets lots of airtime, but in the end some old guy walks out and says only a fragment of the great Simeon passage. They even skipped the " now I can die" moment...why did they do this? And they made Joseph defend Mary's pregnancy because he was loving...no real mention about Gabriel telling him not to divorce her. The film makers made some weird choices.

[@mertozelmusic]

Netflix has lots of blasphemous movies, shows. A person of faith and scripture can decipher the subliminal images, conversations, scenes, songs. I urge you to take notice. Pray Rosary instead.

[@PP-ep1sn]

I find it odd that the filmmakers consulted individuals who are antagonistic towards the Blessed Mother instead of referencing Catholic mystics to whom the Blessed Mother actually revealed her life story.

[@Jesus_own1975]

It was so painful to watch just because it contradicted the scriptures. For One, Joseph actually intended to divorce Mary... Matt 1:19-21 Because Joseph her husband was faithful to the law, and yet[e] did not want to expose her to public disgrace, he had in mind to divorce her quietly. 20 But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, “Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. 21 She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus,[f] because he will save his people from their sins.” So then it was an angel of the Lord that explained it all to Joseph. It was also then Joseph who was suppose to give the name Jesus. Next, the Magi. The Bible calls them Magi and that is all we know. It's NOT specified if they were kings, it was NOT specified if they were three and definitely their names were NOT given. So why then add to the text? If only they made it 100% Biblical. I don't get why films can't do that. I mean ok they need to add some fillers but it should not be anything that contradicts the Bible. So Mary had a cousin playmate, ok that is fine.

[@sammygomes7381]

Satan is not out to give you the truth as his time is coming to an end quickly.

[@ACURA-x6w]

I love the Blessed Mother, I pray the rosary..I was so lost and now I am found. She truly brought me to Jesus❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏

[@jmiogo]

He didn't point out where it went wrong.

[@Bryan-s5i6c]

Timed segment.

[@michaelmccurry6279]

The Blessed Mother Mary and St Joseph are the example for love in this world. So many times they were attacked and could have turned from God. But their love kept them focused on Him. Even when they questioned it at the darkest of times, their will and strength pushed them past all of the evil in the world. As Mary says, “Love will pierce your heart, but in the end, love will save the world.”

[@Rick-c7x]

Blessed holy mother Mary we love 💕 💕💕 & pray to you!!! Love 💕💕💕 god bless peace amen 💖💖

[@sammygomes7381]

Why would you pray to a woman in the grave and not to the Father who gave His Son for you?

[@pescaito1684]

I would like to recommend Mary of Nazareth in Formed. It is very good in my humble opinion 🙏🏼

[@Maplehornet416]

Don't get me wrong; the acting is probably deserving of praise, but one must realize that this movie had advisors and producers such as Joel Osteen and even Muslim clerics. Therefore as a Catholic, I wouldn't put a whole lot of stock in the film's credibility (about Mary) as I believe this film was was made with great dramatic/artistic license.

[@ideerge]

I skimmed, and closed the video immediately, it was horrible, Mary is not a depressed person, just seeing the actress scared paying attentions on others talking instead talking it chill and smiling. I know they have the best of intention, but it is a hollywization & Americanization of Mary, not the real mary

[@immortalwarrior2406]

No need to ask Muslims or Jews about the Holy Mother unless they Catholic.

[@Gromobran]

But she is in their holy books. Why not ask? Why not have a discussion? I don’t understand that

[@ChauwaPerera]

​@@Gromobran Mary in Quran is directly copied from gnostic gospels and other 2nd and 3rd centaury heretical teachings and directly contradict bible and holy tradition but looking at the trailer of this film I didn't noticed anything from Islamic teachings about Mary.

[@immortalwarrior2406]

@ChubbyKittyMeow they have a totally different version of the Holy Mother and of course they reject her Son as the Christ and Son of God. So why need ask them anything?

[@thebeatingcow595]

@@GromobranBecause their books affirm the veracity of the Gospel and Torah, despite contradicting both of them. False religion + 600 years after Jesus = waste of time.

[@DoubleOhSilver]

​@@Gromobran She is not in any Jewish text. And the Quran was written by a charlatan with no credible authority.

[@livialaurenzano4081]

With all the talent in Hollywood and there is talent there, I don’t understand why somebody out there can’t make a movie that is both accurate and entertaining. I understand a certain amount of artistic license. I understand that certain things read better than if they were made visual. But when artistic license totally up- ends the original source I personally have no desire to spend my money or waste my time with it. There have been several British dramatizations of novels and short stories, etc. that used to be shown on PBS (Masterpiece Theater) many years ago and virtually every one of them was extremely entertaining, extremely well done and also virtually identical to the written word. I offer one as an excellent example -the story called “Mother Love”. So my question again is why can’t Hollywood do this?

[@kendelapryme6393]

A truly grateful movie. Show some grace, dude!

[@waxwaine]

Seems this movie over humanized Mary(liberation theology) instead of elevating her as the Queen of the world, mother of God

[@anne-marielear3338]

I enjoyed it very much and I found many scenes very emotional and very close to my heart ❤

[@towerburkindine]

Joel Olsteen produced.. or helped.. but I agree the sense of being well intended is there. Prayers it gets people stirred.

[@tagabulodchastityobedience7292]

IMMACULATE CONCEPTION 🕊️💞🕊️MOTHER OF GOD🕊️💞🕊️QUEEN OF HEAVEN ♥️👑♥️THE BLESSED 🕊️💞🕊️VIRGIN MARY 🕊️💞🕊️

[@JohnJones-qy5ko]

The only immaculate conception was Jesus'!

[@marcella_luv8291]

Thanks for mentioning : I am the Immaculate Conception ❤❤❤

[@thehealingqueensv]

If it's a Catholic movie, why consult others?

[@dennisdynaque7948]

The actress here in Mary netflix is so beautiful ❤ its like image of blessed mary.

[@sammygomes7381]

and we know how Mary looked?

[@Tuff_E_nuf72]

Disgusted. What a disappointment! I have a hard enough time with discussions with nonCatholics about Mary. I’m sure they will all flock to see this because it will agree with their contention that Mary was just human and nothing special. Which is contrary to our beliefs about the Blessed Mother. Won’t be recommending this.

[@jalexrosh]

She was human says the Bible

[@Dienekes678]

​@jalexrosh uh huh, she also happens to be the pinnacle of all Gods creation.❤

[@Bryan-s5i6c]

​@jalexrosh yes, but full of grace.

[@sammygomes7381]

@@Bryan-s5i6c "Favored with grace" not full of grace.

[@sammygomes7381]

@@Dienekes678 Is that a lie from Satan or can i find that in the bible? I ask because the word of God tells us there was no one born of woman greater than John the Baptist.

[@emendoza4832]

Luke 1:26-38 26 In the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth, 27 to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary. 28 And he came to her and said, "Hail, Full of Grace, the Lord is with you!"

[@bspks756]

There would be only one way to make it "as accurate as possible." That is to follow Catholic doctrine, teachings and history. All other perspectives are not guaranteed by the Holy Spirit, but many are man's musings and guesswork about spiritual events. The question is, when will a devout Catholic movie director depict the life of Mary?

[@sammygomes7381]

Why not follow the Christian doctrine instead of the Catholic doctrine?

[@Bruant-fz4ih]

Religious accuracy ≠ historical accuracy. Maybe they intended to avoid the portrait of a "pasteurized" Mary that lacked more human aspects as is understandably recurrent in worshiped iconography. Even when Mary was a way more younger Jewish girl, here she is seen in a more earthly way, with the challenges of the immigrant young mother the Bible talks us about.

[@bspks756]

@ I understand that it must be difficult for a non- religious person to imagine or try to perceive the mindset of a deeply religious girl like Mary was, in the times she was living. But though on the outside she may have appeared "earthly", the Fact is, she was anything but. THAT is the mystery that is going on here. The entire Christian philosophy is that fallen man (since the Garden of Eden) was in need of a Savior. God sent Himself in the form of His Son, Jesus Christ. In Catholic Christian theology, Mary's saving was retroactive, so that she was Immaculately conceived, without sin, without a fallen nature -- therefore, distinctly NOT earthly. Every decision she made was pure, selfless and by Design, served to birth a Divine Savior without sin. This entire concept is nearly impossible to perceive by sinful earthly man. One must be Born Again, and have it Revealed to the human heart by the Holy Spirit. "I was Blind, but now I see.." We need a Movie Director who SEES ✝️✝️✝️

[@sammygomes7381]

@@bspks756 Is there such a thing as Catholic Chrisian? One is either a Christian or Catholic, as one cannot serve two masters.

[@sammygomes7381]

@@bspks756 Is there such a thing as Catholic Chrisian? One is either a Christian or Catholic, as one cannot serve two masters.

[@k3marie23]

When I saw the preview I felt it was wrong to watch the movie so I don’t plan on watching it. It doesn’t look like it’s very accurate.

[@EdwardLynch-m4c]

I had high hopes Netflix would do a good job. Unfortunately, I was wrong. It's a complete warping of the Nativity narative, completely changing the very nature of Mary and Joseph to something unrecognizable. The Bible is not hard to make a movie of . God already wrote the script ang how arrogant for Netflix to think they coul improve it.

[@marjoriedsouza1320]

Excelllent!

[@pop6997]

I enjoyed the movie.

[@littleencounters]

Why to consult mus|!m$? This is insane. They confuse mother Mary with sister of Moses who lived centuries apart. What in the world they know?

[@alfredsams9059]

The best thing is that carusos mary will open the door for Holly,robe, quo vadis. Where are the new films to compete with the glorious films of the padtwood to make great movies like ben hur, ten commandments

[@mysticsmary]

I’m the immaculate conception was amazing

[@crowbar9566]

I've seen it. It is not at all close to the gospel accounts of the nativity and there is a lot of artistic license taken, almost going to the edge of blasphemy. Some people take issue with how the Archangel Gabriel was depicted, but I though that was ok and the least of it. There were scenes depicting Mary being tempted by the devil and Joseph sword fighting with Herod's soldiers, there was a lot to raise eyebrows at. The sets were visually impressive but I was disappointed they strayed too far from the truth.

[@mycupoverflows22]

It has some discrepancies but it is still a wonderful movie!

[@missyschultz2863]

Why was The Immaculate Conception only out for 3 days??? I wanted to see it.

[@artmartinez4023]

This movie was absolutely inaccurate and I turned it off when they began to call her a whore on the street. It was an insult to the Blessed Mother.

[@rencefernan6588]

Christian Mary is not the same as maryam in islam she is the sister of moses their father is imran, while real Mary in Christianity is the daughter Saint Anne and Saint Joachim....

[@sword-and-shield]

There is no "debate" when core doctrine and the Word are skewed or perverted in these movies, its pretty clear.

[@MariaPerez-pg2xz]

Is NOT A CATHOLIC FILM

[@sammygomes7381]

Why not, it distorts the truth of the gospel.

[@dentryn4365]

In Luke 2:34-35 - Simeon says to Mary, a sword will pierce through your own soul, that the thoughts of many hearts will be revealed.

[@ac8fc8]

Thank God it wasn't only me that noticed. It was really terrible not gonna lie

[@neoblackcyptron]

It’s a fine movie with a Christian message: Love will cost you dearly. It will pierce your heart but in the end Love will save the world. (That’s Jesus right there and the gospel put in 3 simple lines) Churches are going extinct because Christians are too uptight. We have too many gray heads and the churches are dying.

[@bigjohnconnect]

Catholic director but he left out one of the most important line between Mary and the Angel “And upon entering, the Angel said to her: "Hail, FULL OF GRACE. The Lord is with you. Blessed are you among women." ‭‭Luke‬ ‭1‬:‭28‬ ‭CPDV‬‬. MY only worry before watching this movie, is not depicting Mary as FULL OF GRACE, without sin, sinless. I’m disappointed

[@goodnessjim-odoi3034]

Only Christ was sinless.

[@agatatres9076]

@@goodnessjim-odoi3034 she was prepared by God to be sinless to birth The Son of God. The new Eve against the serpent. The holy against the sin.

[@sammygomes7381]

Bus she was not full of grace, she was "favored with grace". Like all of us she had a sin nature and was not perfect. If Mary was full of grace she could have died for our sins, we wouldn't need Christ.

[@boom-bm1kl]

​@@sammygomes7381WRONG. If she had any stain of sin on her, she couldn't give birth to Christ.

[@JP-vq6ku]

I couldn’t get through the first 15 minutes. The angel Gabriel looked demonic. Angels are beautiful, not ugly as depicted in this movie. I discerned a dark quality to this film.

[@JohnJones-qy5ko]

I understand that in one part of the movie, Satan tries to kidnap Mary so Joseph has to stab him with a knife to save her. In another part, Joseph kills a Roman soldier. I guess they needed to put a little Marvel in their movie. I wonder if any of the fights involved somersalts in mid air.

[@LoveVictorious100]

Seriously, why would they consult *protestants*?! With the way she was portrayed though, I do see it but um still weird because they hate Mary. Even weirder is the Islam thing (they copied the Bible, hello). I pray people who are new to the faith don’t go along with this and research for themselves.

[@sonicshooter2]

I saw this movie. As much as I want to support it, I’m afraid it went too far with the creative liberties. A lot of the source of material came from the Gospel of James, which isn’t a legitimate book of the Bible. Next time, stick to confirmed source material. The Chosen takes creative liberties too but it is based off confirmed books from the Old and New Testaments.

[@TheNewCatholicNZ]

There's reverence for God. For Jesus, Mary and Joseph. You feel blessed to have them. However they took too many liberties.

[@wildflower9317]

The movie is so unbiblical and very spooky

[@TheO11251]

Someone says, and I agree - "It was an insult to the Blessed Mother"!

[@CatholicIrish11]

Its hard to beat Jesus of Nazareth mini series it is very good.

[@frgabrielmary4620]

The guest critic does not provide a single point on which how the film departs from revealed truth. He cautions viewers but does not explain why. If the film "stirs debate", we'd like to know why. I purposely avoid biblical films, because they always disappoint.

[@joantreadway7557]

They didn't follow scripture. For example St Anne tells Mary to go visit Elizabeth bc she's pregnant not the Archangel Gabriel.

[@Life_in_Motion74]

I’d be interested to see a film about Islams Mohammed but I don’t watch horror movies.😂

[@sonyvergelbaes6811]

Blessed Virgin Mary's fiat was not in the movie. Which highlights her complete surrender and obedience to God.

[@KJSCalderon]

It was produced by Joel Osteen......

[@tomthumb3880]

That says it all

[@monicamohan4720]

The arrogance that it takes to assume to know what Mary might have done or said, unless it is in Scripture, is astounding. Scripture is Divinely Inspired - not the scrip writers.

[@Griemmy]

Mmm..false. Mary is barely in "blessed scripture", but the church traditions and teachings of the apostles and early christians about her is as reliable and authoritative. You cannot live with the bible alone. You need the church to guide you in understanding it.

[@GuadalupePicasso]

3:35 3:37 such a stupid argument against such an ancient tradition, especially as the Old Testament has examples of old men walking both to and from Egypt, as well as older men being called to do other great things (such as Noah being called to build the ark at an already advanced age)…… not to mention that nowhere do the scriptures specify that Joseph walked to Egypt🤦

[@tristantalksyap]

Mary here would have been perfect for the role Snow White…

[@mra2010]

I liked the film

[@seventone4039]

I saw it on Netflix and was very worrie and cautios til the end for eny blasphemic stuff but there wansn't. Just St. Joseph was portraied as a Young man but scriptures said he was older. Antony Hopkins played King Herod very well.

[@johnbrowne2170]

Catholics will always be upset unless Mary is portrayed as superman.

[@Kerrib-yh4mc]

This is not biblical in so many ways people, very sad!!! I encourage everyone to read their Bibles!

[@susangrandjean6023]

This movie was awful. Not accurate biblically , not spititual and totally uninspiring. Dont miss the movie "I am the Immaculate Coception". A beautiful holy tribute to the Blessed Mother.

[@danieladams6066]

asking Jews and Muslims how absurd. Even Protestants?who have a lower view of Mary then the Muslims. Next time just ask Orthodox and Catholics leave the rest out of it

[@regenfrau7823]

Thats not right! Many tradional Muslims have more respect to Maria, than even catholics. To choose FATIMA for the apparitions of our Lady was a great sign motherly careness

[@lidiamartin5245]

It's not a Chatolic movie. It's a movie based on the birth of Christ. The difference between the Protestant and Chatolic denomination is that we as Protestants. Pray directly to God and don't talk to people who have died asking for any help. She was a holy woman, but she had the same nature as you and I. She was not divine. She did not have a sinless nature. She was a faithful, human being. We recognise what she did, but that is it.

[@sammygomes7381]

Or one Could ask a Christian and learn Mary did not remain a virgin, was also with sin, and is not the mother of God.

[@boom-bm1kl]

​@sammygomes7381 everything you said is wrong

[@sammygomes7381]

@@boom-bm1kl Someone doesn't know their bible. 1 Mat.1:25 tells us Mary did not remain a virgin, and numerous places tell us Christ had brothers named James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas. 2. For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, as well as for none is righteous, not one. 3. In the beginning, no Mary mentioned. Mary gave birth to Christ in the flesh and flesh gives birth to flesh, not spirit.

[@peterboos930]

Totally disappointing movie. Lacks a sense of Mary’s holiness and full of unnecessary bloody violence.

[@brucekuehn4031]

Hollywood - always take any religious or historical film with a grain of salt.

[@esmeraldamunoz8803]

Missed the mark on Netflix

[@DenverTorres-we6yj]

I watched the movie. Like was said watch it for your opinions. What turned me off from it was seeing Joel Olsteen was a producer for this movie. So at first it was mixed reviews for me but seeing a maga church money making person involved turned me away from it.

[@markcossilsymanlimos4346]

Let's Watch "I Am the Immaculate Concepcion".

[@carlprutzman8517]

For the people stirring the debate..we’ll they are ,,NOT”…..Religious and most be atheist!

[@tonyfromchester1961]

When are they doing the Mohammed version?

[@jalexrosh]

Soon after they do the Moses version

[@lauratellier8049]

Next time do one on Mohammed and after the director and others live through that... .

[@Dixie110]

Truly an ignorant mess of crap!

[@moshpupps7921]

can't make everybody happy

[@exgod1]

They should have asked us atheists too. We coukd have told them about Rhea Silvia and Romulus and Remus (Roman Mythology).

[@cindyhefferman2605]

Why doesn’t the RC want you to know > Mary was the divine birth ?

[@emiltiwaz1022]

By Jewish standards of that time, getting pregnant without a husband is a heinous crime punishable by stoning to death. That is clear historical fact which Biblical scholars will confirm. Nothing at all "irreverential" about that.

[@91Albertus]

However St. Mary had a husband at the time of the Annunciation - st. Joseph. So there was nothing scandalous about her being pregnant, and nowhere in the Scriptures it's brought against her or her Child.

[@emiltiwaz1022]

@@91Albertus You may wish to read again the Infancy Narrative of Matthew and Luke. In the Lucan version, Mary explicitly told Gabriel that she has no husband (Lk 1: 34). In the Gospel of Matthew an Angel had to appear to Joseph in a dream to convince him to take Mary even though the child in her is not Joseph's. Joseph, in the Matthean narrative, was in fact extremely reluctant to even see Mary now given her pregnancy out of wedlock (Mt 1: 18-20).

[@91Albertus]

@@emiltiwaz1022 No, st. Mary says "I know not man" meaning she is a virgin, but she already is married to st. Joseph, the original texts are clear here. We have to know that in ancient Jewish tradition marriage consistet of two steps, after the first the spouses already were legally married and could have legal children, but they didn't yet live together for a period up to a year, during which the husband was preparing the home, and then the second part was when he solemnly introduced his wife to their new home. St. Joseph wanted to quietly divorce st. Mary before he took her to his home (the language used is that of a divorce) meaning that all this happened between this two stages. Some Bible translations are not so accurate here (because we don't have the equivalent of that 2-stage marriage in our languages) although usually they will explain this in the footnotes. There's a good video that explains this in detail called 'Why Protestants Get Christmas Wrong' by the channel 'Shameless Popery Podcast'. Edit: I'll just add that in older translations like the KJV or Douay-Rheims it says more accurately, that the Angel Gabriel was sent to the Virgin Mary when she was "espoused to a man whose name was Joseph". Meaning they were already spouses.

[@davidleingang5591]

@@emiltiwaz1022 allow me to clarify a couple of your points. The Catholic New American Bible in Luke 1:34 has Mary’s reply to angel Gabriel as “How can this be, since I have no relations with a man?” Mary is not saying she doesn’t have a husband since Luke 1:27 says Mary was betrothed to Joseph. Betrothal in Jewish culture was a formal contract between a man and woman to marry. Much more binding than an engagement today. Betrothed couples would not have sexual relations during the betrothal period. So Mary’s questioning response to Gabriel is more like how can I be pregnant when I haven’t had sex with Joseph? Gabriel then explains in Luke 1:35 the Holy Spirit’s role in the conception of Jesus. Now regarding Math 1:18-20. Infidelity during betrothal was considered adultery. Penalty for adultery was death by stoning (see Dt 22:21-23). Per the Mosaic Law Joseph could have had Mary stoned. But since Joseph was a righteous man (Math 1:19) he decided to divorce Mary quietly to avoid shame etc. This is when an angel appears in his dream and tells him “…do not to be afraid to take Mary your wife into your home.” Essentially Mary is pregnant by the power of the Holy Spirit. And note the angel called Mary his “wife.” Joseph followed the angel’s command and took Mary into his home. And we all know the rest of the story.

[@ToxicMaleAlpha]

Mary was conceived without sin. She’s not a robot. Jesus sweat drops of blood and asked the cup pass him so he didn’t have to endure and suffer. Certainly Mary had similar struggles.

[@tomthumb3880]

No, she didn't

[@ingridprior1337]

She wasn't sinless, nor a perpetual virgin. She's also not the queen of heaven and earth.

[@boom-bm1kl]

​@ingridprior1337 actually she was conceived without sin and she is in fact the queen of heaven

[@abrahamvazque2]

Movie name: Nativity is wayyyyyyyyy better than the movie: Mary

[@mexikurpaska936]

That is why i will not watch the movie. After all what do you expect from netflix.

[@livialaurenzano4081]

You can’t be serious.!!!!!!You don’t have to agree with Catholic teaching, but at least get the facts straight. And to do this, you must go to the proper source --to Catholic publications --not to Jews or Muslims or other protestants. Once again you don’t have to believe it or agree with it, but this is the way you get your facts straight. This is and has been clearly explained by the Catholic Church. The Immaculate Conception refers to Mary herself --that she was conceived without the stain of original sin -the sin of Adam, to be a worthy dwelling place for our Lord and Savior; and the angel comes to her and says “Hail FULL of grace. The Lord is with thee.”. This is completely different from and does NOT refer to the virgin birth. I would encourage you to research the subject, with the following sources as a good start- Catechism of the Council of Trent, The Catechism Explained by Francis Spirago and The Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma by Ludwig Ott. Godspeed.

[@jenniferoestrike750]

Too many inaccuracies and missed opportunities

[@John2verse5]

Ave MARÍA🌹🌷🌹 Sons of Ismael (not Esau, he forgave his brother), let's not billy carson around the bush and talk.

[@waynecornell-w5u]

you folks are missing a lot of good info on your faith, Jesus and Mary and Joseph and the Apostles were all Jewish raised in Deep Jewish Customs and Traditions , which pretty much got messed up and lost when Christianity spread to the gentile nations and got mixed in with some of their pagan beliefs, like emperor Constatine when he changed things around, he claimed to be Christian, yet kept a lot of his pagan beliefs! you should listen to some of the Messianic Jewish Rabbis on you tube and here what they have to say and teach on the Jewish Jesus!