Neumann KM184 vs SE Electronics SE8 - Drum Overheads

Neumann KM184 vs SE Electronics SE8 on Drum Overheads
Overhead mics have 0 processing besides a db or two of parallel compression on the entire drum bus. all other mics have a little bit of processing except the second half which has no processing.
I also forgot to record the Floor tom lol
Cusworth cast bronze 13x7" snare with bronze hoops (main snare)
Ludwig Black Beauty 14x6.5" (low tuning)
Gretsch Brooklyn 16x16" floor tom
Yamaha Recording Custom 12x8" rack tom
Metro Stave Jarrah 20x14" kick drum
Recorded, Mixed, Edited by Declan White
Videography and Thumbnail by ‪@zebfernandez‬
Stems to download:
drive.google.com/file/d/1ve9O...

[@DanielPestanaTranslations]

Dude, your drums sound incredible. One of the best sounding I’ve heard on KZbin. Thanks for the SE8 test.

[@FabianHorn]

phenomenal sound as always. you're a master at your craft.

[@zebfernandez]

Everything sounds SO GOOD! 🔥

[@di.sociado]

thank you!

[@pfunnk14]

Snare sounds better with the SEs. Crazy. Thought the Neumanns would be noticeably better but could barely tell the difference.

[@sheerg310]

Not usually a drum person but your playing is excellent. Great groove and fantastic taste. The overheads sound phat and so does your drumming. Good job, keep it up.

[@declanwhite]

Black shirt guy or the white shirt guy? Haha or both ?

[@steverok67]

Unless short clips of the exact same part are played back to back, I am hard-pressed to tell the difference. Great drum sound and drumming.

[@declanwhite]

I included a link to the raw files in the description so you can go back and forth on your own accord if needed!

[@Curtis.720]

Declan any chance you could give some tips for OH placement for live situations? The sound your getting here is incredible, I’d like to try and match that with my current setup. I’m using a matched pair of Samson C02 overheads, but I’m not sure how to place them, how high above the crash cymbals they need be, and if they need to be angled or pointing straight down. Any tips to keep it simple would be much appreciated. Thanks for all the cool shit you post on your channel, us drum guys love it. Cheers fella!

[@nixc1972]

Great video. I like the sound of the 184s better - a more defined top end, just seem to fit a little better in the mix. But for the price difference - I don’t like them that much more!!!

[@robertmartinsenlb8ci]

If you used either of these mics and told me it was the other, I would have believed you. Could barely notice any difference when A-B-ing them.

[@samwerrell2104]

Sounds incredible bro!!! What are the other mics on the rack, snare and kick?

[@hanakejason]

Damn, v nice. What are the cymbals out of curiosity?

[@besoenelcodo]

Gran video y sonido! Por los valores, me quedo con los sE8, muy poco que envidiar a los km184. Ninguno de los 2 suenan mal. Saludos

[@saboyadrummer]

How do you processed?

[@RenzoLi]

what is that tom mic ?

[@vvcctrr]

evans hybrid?

[@okaight7248]

Sounds like KM's have less room reflection mid clappy noise than the SE8's. They sound a bit more mix ready.

[@markusaxt]

Great tuning, especially the low snare. Like the KM184s more. For me its more accurate with transients. Also better high frequency resolution.

[@pianovoix]

what's best for you ? Km184 , Lulu or SE8 ?

[@declanwhite]

km184

[@Therapyxx]

@@declanwhite do you think that km184 will fit for recording a guitar in a Maisonette flat? Its like 100% open for 1.5 floors :D Only parly treated (1 wall with acoustic panels and 3 corners with bass traps). Just read that Km184 also to noisy.... Thanks for any kind of info! :)

[@foxytv4896]

The Neumanns are clearly more balanced, which is obvious in the unprocessed recording, but will normally get even clearer when adding EQ and Compression etc. The Se8s are super nice for the price though.

[@davebrownentertainment7191]

KM184 thicker mids, SE8 less muddy mids.