Neutral Shepard - Hidden & Hardly Seen Dialog & Consequences in Mass Effect Legendary

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@Dantics
@Dantics 5 ай бұрын
Part 2 here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5jPg5-Ea8uhgqc There was an upload error I didn't detect until after I set this live. I won't delete and reupload what is essentially a fun video so PART 2 is unlisted which should mean ZERO ads. My apologies for the disruption though!
@YoungMrBlue
@YoungMrBlue 5 ай бұрын
How does that happen??
@Dantics
@Dantics 5 ай бұрын
@@YoungMrBlue KZbin upload error that wasn't reported to me.
@brandonadkins9435
@brandonadkins9435 5 ай бұрын
lol I assumed it was a joke ending
@yrpl0mblu
@yrpl0mblu 5 ай бұрын
@@Dantics no enough war recources to finish video
@overthinkingisbad
@overthinkingisbad 5 ай бұрын
what do you count as many views? heh
@ingydegmar2060
@ingydegmar2060 5 ай бұрын
I am commander Shepard, and I have no strong feelings about this store.
@Dantics
@Dantics 5 ай бұрын
Tell my wife I said, hello
@PeterDivine
@PeterDivine 5 ай бұрын
I'm Commander Shepard, and this is a store on the Citadel.
@yalibukruno
@yalibukruno 5 ай бұрын
I am Commander Shepard and this is one of the stores on The Citadel
@Dantics
@Dantics 5 ай бұрын
If I don't buy anything, tell my wife I said Hello
@jamesverner9132
@jamesverner9132 5 ай бұрын
Evil Shepard be like
@ЭндиВеласкес
@ЭндиВеласкес 5 ай бұрын
Is almost as if neutral Shepard just wants the Reapers and other galactic threats gone so he could go back to watching footage of cats on the extranet, peacefully and uninterrupted
@Dantics
@Dantics 5 ай бұрын
Raises a good question, is Shep a cat or dog person? Hmm...
@ЭндиВеласкес
@ЭндиВеласкес 5 ай бұрын
I believe he is actually a varren person, even when he spends a good amount of time killing them. It’s a complicated relationship
@Jar_Tea
@Jar_Tea 5 ай бұрын
Hamster person ​
@jessedugan2545
@jessedugan2545 5 ай бұрын
It’s almost as if the end of the galaxy is simply an unconvinced for him, rather than a life or death struggle of mythological proportions.
@toolatetothestory
@toolatetothestory 5 ай бұрын
@@ЭндиВеласкес "There are no bad varrens, just bad owners"
@belladonnalavender5493
@belladonnalavender5493 5 ай бұрын
I think the interesting thing about Neutral Shepard is that he feels like the perfect soldier but the worst leader, at least among the other versions of himself. Absolutely, neutral Shepard should be a spectre, but dear God he shouldn't be allowed to be a commander.
@Dantics
@Dantics 5 ай бұрын
I have to agree with you there. Terrible terrible leader. The Thane scene captures that perfectly.
@kylekillgannon
@kylekillgannon 5 ай бұрын
Almost like real leadership
@superking-nicolaslucau7252
@superking-nicolaslucau7252 2 ай бұрын
Lol neutral Shepard is the Peter principle incarnated
@NoName-ym5zj
@NoName-ym5zj 5 ай бұрын
Kasumi just giving up on the heist upon seeing Shepard is pure gold
@Dantics
@Dantics 5 ай бұрын
Would you risk it?
@NoName-ym5zj
@NoName-ym5zj 5 ай бұрын
@@Dantics well you know how the song goes : "You can fight like a Krogan, run like a leopard ... " - Hope that answers it lol
@squishgod9094
@squishgod9094 2 ай бұрын
​@@NoName-ym5zjblast from the fucking past thank you for reminding me of MoS bro
@NoName-ym5zj
@NoName-ym5zj 2 ай бұрын
@@squishgod9094 ah, a man of culture. You're welcome, bro.
@jimijenkins2548
@jimijenkins2548 Ай бұрын
@@NoName-ym5zj "...but you'll never be better than Commander Shepherd,"
@eds1942
@eds1942 5 ай бұрын
I’m Commander Shepard. And I have no feelings about establishment whatsoever.
@Dantics
@Dantics 5 ай бұрын
My gut says maybe.
@ur1zen_
@ur1zen_ 5 ай бұрын
Neutral Shep be like: *I'm a regular alliance commander, and this is regular store in the citadel*
@revan0890
@revan0890 5 ай бұрын
If I don't survive, tell Admiral Hackett I said hello.
@dasirrlicht5415
@dasirrlicht5415 5 ай бұрын
True Neutral: -Mission First -Not a Virgin -Knows Grunt -Alcoholic -Does not care about all the stores equally -Does not like the Sensationalist Press -Pragmatic Mercy -Bores Elias into confession -Wishes to not have strong feelings about Mass Effect 3 -Goodbye
@Dantics
@Dantics 5 ай бұрын
Hahaha we'll bang maybe
@acerazorakjsflasjfka
@acerazorakjsflasjfka Ай бұрын
- Chose the synthesis ending
@Doomin-c2m
@Doomin-c2m 5 ай бұрын
Neutral Shepard actually doesn't care, he just trolls people and gets the job done.
@Dantics
@Dantics 5 ай бұрын
Ends up being both funny and fustrating
@JanJansen985
@JanJansen985 5 ай бұрын
Its really funny you can romance Ashley as a neutral Also romancing her as the neutral option is funny
@Dantics
@Dantics 5 ай бұрын
Yeah she really comes at you aggressively which is hilarious
@Serrifin
@Serrifin Ай бұрын
If I remember correctly even choosing the ‘I am your commanding officer’ option still leads to romance, it’s probably just based on how many times you talk to her.
@glory2cybertron
@glory2cybertron 4 ай бұрын
Commander "I just work here" Shepard
@Dantics
@Dantics 4 ай бұрын
Lol, thats the vibe for sure
@Timurelang
@Timurelang 5 ай бұрын
What makes a man turn neutral? Money? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?
@Dantics
@Dantics 5 ай бұрын
Tell the reapers I said hello
@acerazorakjsflasjfka
@acerazorakjsflasjfka Ай бұрын
"Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men... just want to watch the world."
@sgtrpcommand3778
@sgtrpcommand3778 5 ай бұрын
14:20 your Shepard is such a non entity the game doesn’t even bother to render them.
@Dantics
@Dantics 5 ай бұрын
Neutral Shep: It's about the companions I met along the way :') not me
@marsar1775
@marsar1775 5 ай бұрын
@@Danticsi just did it, i rendered in. i dont know what you played on, but i was on console. maybe the glitch is fixed there???
@TJK4605
@TJK4605 5 ай бұрын
ME1 ending should have neutral shep just walk out like, what are you waiting for, shits on fire here get to it
@MajorJakas
@MajorJakas 5 ай бұрын
"Saren was my job, call the firemen.
@little_lord_tam
@little_lord_tam 5 ай бұрын
That line is actually cold tho​@@MajorJakas
@begformiuiruma257
@begformiuiruma257 4 ай бұрын
this is one of the funniest things i've ever read from the ME fandom
@Gustmazz
@Gustmazz 5 ай бұрын
Neutral Shepard feels even more NPC than the NPCs
@Cheepchipsable
@Cheepchipsable 4 ай бұрын
Always wondered why "I'm a SPECTRE and can kill/detain/steal from you without consequence..." was never offered more as a response in the game.
@alden2442
@alden2442 5 ай бұрын
There's actually a neutral option that keeps Tali loyal and prevents her exile. You can "Rally the crowd" if you talk to everyone after the first part of the trail before you retake the Alarai. But doing so requires handing Veetor over to the quarians instead of Cerberus in Freedom's Progress and making sure Kal Reegar survives on Haestrom.
@Dantics
@Dantics 5 ай бұрын
I could have but it didn't feel neutral to me. I tried to pick them where possible.
@corditesniffer8020
@corditesniffer8020 5 ай бұрын
I always liked that neutral option during the trial but to get access to it it does require paragon options to be picked for both Kal and Veetor so it’s not true neutral but a nice option none the less I really like that it in some way helps with Veetor’s recovery by bribing him out of his shell a little
@emackenzie
@emackenzie 4 ай бұрын
I love picking that option, one of the only times I don't go Paragon. Shep won't always be there for Tali, it's important for her own people to acknowledge what she's done for them and defend her for themselves
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA Ай бұрын
Tali's trial is one of the best quests in the game, there's at least 5 resolutions to it (Paragon, Renegade, give data and lose her loyalty, keep data and get her exiled, rally the crowd), I wish more quests would be as involved. Especially after 2 it went downhill.
@anewhero1216
@anewhero1216 Ай бұрын
If I'm not mistaken, doesn't Reegar's survival rely on a Paragon interrupt?
@agama5538
@agama5538 5 ай бұрын
Renegade: I lead with fear. Paragon: I lead with fairness. Neutral: I am here. By the looks of it the Garrus Loyalty in ME1 has the appropriate effect in ME2 if you tell him it was a lesson. He doesn't hesitate with Harken or Sidonis. Instead of calling the motherboard Project 0, I'd have customized it to say Project [0]verlord. Opportunity missed.
@Frozen_Death_Knight
@Frozen_Death_Knight 5 ай бұрын
"Neutral: I am here" Kind of ironic considering that ME1 ending cutscene. :D
@agama5538
@agama5538 4 ай бұрын
@@Frozen_Death_Knight Well, he was there... somewhere.
@caffeinefreak2274
@caffeinefreak2274 5 ай бұрын
I heard the voice director gave Mark Meer and Jennifer Hale very different directions. Mark Meer was told to make paragon and renegade lines believably sound like they come from the same character while Jennifer Hale was told to make them sound like completely different people since everyone sticks with one anyway. Now I'm really curious what neutral femShep sounds like.
@DragonTamer31K
@DragonTamer31K Ай бұрын
It's interesting how with most games the female usually has better dialogue and acting skills. It's a weird juxtaposition
@kyrusxi
@kyrusxi Ай бұрын
@@DragonTamer31K ME1, Hale definitely did a better job considering Mark Meer wasn't originally meant to voice maleshep and the voice acting he did was a placeholder. But ME2 and 3 I personally think Mark Meer was the better voice actor, Jennifer Hale completely fumbles some of the more emotional Shepard moments in my opinion. For example if you choose the Geth over the Quarians on Rannoch, Femshep sounds like she couldn't care less when Tali commits the die.
@Malgravy
@Malgravy Ай бұрын
@@kyrusxi wow thats just wrong
@kyrusxi
@kyrusxi Ай бұрын
@@Malgravy ok
@rafaelgmota
@rafaelgmota 25 күн бұрын
I take it you have no strong feelings about his opinion about your comment, with just that "ok" from you, huh? 😅 ​@@kyrusxi
@jashloseher578
@jashloseher578 5 ай бұрын
I liked picking neutral options here and there, but dang, a true neutral ending bugs out the cutscene? Tsk, tsk, Bioware.
@Dantics
@Dantics 5 ай бұрын
It seems so, though it could have been a rare occurrence
@anssiluomaranta34
@anssiluomaranta34 Ай бұрын
It is not a bug: The job was done so neutral shep packed his bag and went home.
@mho...
@mho... 5 ай бұрын
you never know where these neutrals stand... its sickens me -Z.Brannigan
@Dantics
@Dantics 5 ай бұрын
All I know is my gut says maybe replay it
@xamames2018
@xamames2018 4 ай бұрын
It was an ....... Ok experience
@OnionChoppingNinja
@OnionChoppingNinja 3 ай бұрын
Joker: "ugh"
@MagicGonads
@MagicGonads 2 ай бұрын
The neutrals stand 1 to 1.2 meters away from you sir. - Kif
@Dorian_Kellum
@Dorian_Kellum 5 ай бұрын
I always choose the neutral option at the end of Grunt’s mission. Since the day I heard it I’ve never picked anything else. Some of the neutral options in 2 feel more Renegade than the actual Renegade choice.
@Dantics
@Dantics 5 ай бұрын
Now I will be choosing that every time. Agreed on the renegade choice
@emmanuel4989
@emmanuel4989 5 ай бұрын
I've always chosen that option too. I also like choosing the wound the hostage option in lair of the shadow broker, it's definitley funnier and colder than the actual renegade option.
@SaltyRocksPew
@SaltyRocksPew 4 ай бұрын
Neutral commander Shepard- "The reapers might be real"
@thedorf7575
@thedorf7575 5 ай бұрын
I'm Commander Shepard and this is a store on the Citadel
@Dantics
@Dantics 5 ай бұрын
And this is a video on KZbin
@DioZaWorldo
@DioZaWorldo Ай бұрын
@@Danticsgoodbye
@Zyklon_B_still_and_know_God
@Zyklon_B_still_and_know_God 2 ай бұрын
Neutral shep is so indifferent to Conrad he just goes back to live with his wife happily ever after
@Philtopy
@Philtopy 5 ай бұрын
"Ah yes, Shepard is completely neutral and can balance the galaxys forces justfully and without strong emotions and attachment to either side. We have dismissed that claim."
@Dantics
@Dantics 5 ай бұрын
With great power comes great weakness. We'll bang, maybe.
@StarEximus
@StarEximus 3 ай бұрын
Shepard's deadpan stare as a result of the graphical overhaul in the LE edition in ME2 and 3 just really adds to the whole "neutral" vibe you went with
@PwnySlaystation01
@PwnySlaystation01 4 ай бұрын
"If I know Grunt, your answer is coming at muzzle velocity" what a line
@Dantics
@Dantics 4 ай бұрын
It's perfect!
@anewhero1216
@anewhero1216 Ай бұрын
"You DO know Grunt"
@FTZPLTC
@FTZPLTC 4 ай бұрын
Neutral Shepard getting sexually harassed by Ashley. I actually feel bad for him.
@SpaceBengal
@SpaceBengal 5 ай бұрын
Mass Effect AND Futurama in one video? What a treat! "What makes a good man go neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"
@Dantics
@Dantics 5 ай бұрын
All I know is my gut says maybe play ME again
@Zathurious
@Zathurious 5 ай бұрын
I guess "neutral" was more of an out for players who didn't have enough points to go either way. It sure does make Shepherd seem more passive. And as you pointed out, you don't have neutral options in the third game.
@bestaround3323
@bestaround3323 5 ай бұрын
But what if you want to be the guy who shows up instead of the leader?
@fallouthirteen
@fallouthirteen 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's probably the main reason people don't pick it. Like you invest the skill points or effort to get those paragon/renegade options, you're going to use them.
@acerazorakjsflasjfka
@acerazorakjsflasjfka Ай бұрын
Neutral Shepard upon seeing stillborn Krogan children killed by the genophage: "I'd like to hear both sides of the argument."
@billylav5254
@billylav5254 5 ай бұрын
I like to do what I call an antihero run: renegade dialogue and paragon actions
@ThumbSipper
@ThumbSipper 5 ай бұрын
That's my favourite too. Save the Council, cure the genophage, unite Geth and Quarians but be a massive ASS***E while doing it lol
@agama5538
@agama5538 5 ай бұрын
I play paragade. If you deserve a smack in the mouth or an omni-blade to the gut, kill Vigo or even to crap your Eclipse armour with a heavy threat, I'm your guy, if you want me to suffocate a whole deck of civilians, kill Wrex and sabotage the Krogan or let the council die, you need to find a different guy.
@angeloalvarez5520
@angeloalvarez5520 5 ай бұрын
​@@agama5538sabotage the cure is my favorite choice
@SmokeBloody
@SmokeBloody 5 ай бұрын
Do a hypocrite run: paragon dialogue + renegade actions😅
@agama5538
@agama5538 5 ай бұрын
@@angeloalvarez5520 You evil, evil Commander.
@valx7586
@valx7586 4 ай бұрын
I love the almost childlike glee Shepherd says "This is MY kill Garrus!"
@thatcitrusfriend6234
@thatcitrusfriend6234 2 күн бұрын
And his response afterward "What was that Shepard?" diabolical 😭😭
@ch3burashka
@ch3burashka 5 ай бұрын
I never thought of changing the first name to Shepard. A galactic brain worthy of the Reapers.
@bennetthaah8236
@bennetthaah8236 2 ай бұрын
I used ‘Commander’ as the first name. Gotta make them say the first and last name; addressing a senior officer with only their first name is just plain rude
@sonikku997
@sonikku997 5 ай бұрын
Neutral Shep somehow makes me feel even worse than Renegade Shep.
@waywardson4472
@waywardson4472 4 ай бұрын
For Tali, if both Veetor and Reegar survive, you get the neutral “Rally the Crowd” option which gets the same effect as the paragon/renegade options
@HennyBuBuProductions
@HennyBuBuProductions 2 ай бұрын
“If you can’t laugh after that when can you?” “Never” THAT HAD ME WEAK
@Dantics
@Dantics 2 ай бұрын
😂
@Synthia17
@Synthia17 5 ай бұрын
Shepard Shepard might be the most perfect name for a full neutral Shep
@courtesylaugh528
@courtesylaugh528 5 ай бұрын
I was actually planning on eventually doing a neutral run just to see how different it would be, so this video saved me a ton of time. Fascinating and very thoroughly done; thank you!
@Moe_Infinity
@Moe_Infinity 3 ай бұрын
The "I missed the part where that's my problem" run.
@CepbIuLOL
@CepbIuLOL Ай бұрын
He is saying exactly this to council about Racing and Joker about AI
@Freelancer.Warzone
@Freelancer.Warzone 2 ай бұрын
that double handshake made me lose my shit lmao, exactly how it feels to say goodbye to someone then both of you start walking in the same direction
@Freelancer.Warzone
@Freelancer.Warzone 2 ай бұрын
I should watch the video before I comment, the "true neutral" end cutscene of ME1 after Sovereign dies made me laugh my ass off when Shepard Shepard was nowhere to be seen
@Dantics
@Dantics 2 ай бұрын
🤣 it's like the jokes write them selves!
@kinorris1709
@kinorris1709 5 ай бұрын
Centrist Shepard be like.
@Ixarus6713
@Ixarus6713 4 ай бұрын
He's swifty moving towards a solution which pleases no-one!
@skynet0912
@skynet0912 5 ай бұрын
Grunt doesn't remove the bullets, because bullets have next to no physical size in these games... "Ammo" is basicly a hunk of metal inside the weapon, that has a tiny microscopic fragment shaven off and fired when you pull the trigger. Each piece of metal might be small, but due to the mass effect field in the weapon, even a grain of sand can be accelerated to impact with the force of a nuke. It's the reason weapons don't run out of ammo and just overheat in 1, and only need thermal clips in 2 and 3, as every hunk of metal in a weapon can last nearly it's entire lifecycle of a gun
@lightning1910
@lightning1910 4 ай бұрын
Was the video intended to cut off so abruptly at the end? 43:04
@dayzroc8645
@dayzroc8645 4 ай бұрын
That's because he chose the middle option.
@LilacMage
@LilacMage 2 ай бұрын
Oh. 😅
@Deception975
@Deception975 5 ай бұрын
Colonist, Sole Survivor would have been the "true neutral" option. It gives the same amount into paragon and renegade. Where every other option, either gives: points only into one, or an obtuse amount to both.
@vynthiswechseln3868
@vynthiswechseln3868 5 ай бұрын
Hmm. I think this is one of Mass Effect's weaker halves. Indifference punishes harder than mixing up morality choices.
@Dantics
@Dantics 5 ай бұрын
Yeh there needs to be a reward for mixing it up!
@FLancer218
@FLancer218 5 ай бұрын
The opposite of good isn't evil, but indifference
@Dantics
@Dantics 5 ай бұрын
@@FLancer218 like saying opposite of caring is not caring
@siennahartle9069
@siennahartle9069 4 ай бұрын
Fun fact the Ethan Jeong speech check is actually the hardest one to clear in the game. You literally have to have maxed out points in charm or intimidate to choose one of those options which is two points higher than what you need to convince Saren to shoot himself in the final stand off. The dialogue where you don’t kill him is probably way more rare to see than the neutral one
@ENDrain
@ENDrain Ай бұрын
Is there something wrong with the video's ending? It ends seemingly abruptly at 43:04
@darth-severus
@darth-severus Ай бұрын
Right? Feels like there's meant to be more there
@CepbIuLOL
@CepbIuLOL Ай бұрын
​@@darth-severusthere is part 2
@Mnemnosyne
@Mnemnosyne 4 ай бұрын
Yaroslev was supposed to be missing a leg at least according to the script, but it turned out they didn't have the technical ability to display that, which is why that scene ends up so odd. He's intended to be grievously wounded, and that's what he's referring to with his 'but...ehh.'
@sErgEantaEgis12
@sErgEantaEgis12 4 ай бұрын
6:30 Yaroslav Tartakovsky was supposed to be missing a leg and have a tourniquet keeping him from bleeding out but engine limits or something along those lines meant Bioware couldn't implement it.
@GalathNox
@GalathNox 5 ай бұрын
Nice touch at the very end. Forcing us to do the exact same neutral playthrough to see how it all actually ends. 😂
@Dantics
@Dantics 5 ай бұрын
I do finish it off :)
@ZehnWaters
@ZehnWaters 5 ай бұрын
@@Danticslol in another video? Cause the last second cut in this vid is brutal.
@Pearcinator
@Pearcinator 5 ай бұрын
​@@ZehnWaters I think Dantics is implying that he did finish the game. Marauder Shields got Shepard at the end. I have a feeling that he didn't have enough war assets for Synthesis ending (though Refusal would technically be the most neutral).
@LlywellynOBrien
@LlywellynOBrien 4 ай бұрын
I was so confused by this.
@CepbIuLOL
@CepbIuLOL Ай бұрын
I didn't get the joke/idea behind cutting the video. Can you explain pls?
@SwagBroPlays
@SwagBroPlays 5 ай бұрын
Centrist Boring Commander Shepard walked so that Centrist Boring Cop Harry DuBois could Jamrock Shuffle🤣
@Dantics
@Dantics 5 ай бұрын
💯 exactly
@FinnDanger-e3v
@FinnDanger-e3v 2 ай бұрын
Raphael Ambrosius Cousteau
@TylerPalma
@TylerPalma 5 ай бұрын
I’ve always appreciated that Mass Effect, a game about taking a stand, rewards you whether you stick to being a heroic leader or a gruff one, but it punishes you in a lot of ways for being too wishy-washy or middling.
@Leo.23232
@Leo.23232 2 ай бұрын
No, its stupid, sometimes being nice should be best, sometimes being a dick should be, sometimes being netural should be better. having netural always be shit is stupid, lazy and not realistic. i also think paragon shouldnt always be on top, neutral in the middle and renegade on the bottom, it should be randomised so you have to actually think. Also a third point system for netural with neutral special dialogues so you aren't punished for playing that way
@TylerPalma
@TylerPalma Ай бұрын
@@Leo.23232 It sounds to me like maybe you're just interested in a different game. You can absolutely play however you want and choose options that are paragon/renegade/neutral as you see fit - nothing is forcing you to only make one sort of choice. But at the end of the day it's a game mechanic like in any RPG. And in this game, the mechanic rewards players for not remaining neutral for most choices because that is what fits the narrative. The series entirely revolves around making high-stakes decisions with as much or as little information as you can get, and Shep the character is meant to be the hero/antihero who explicitly does not stand by and remain neutral in these important situations. The point that they're trying to make in the storytelling is that choosing to remain neutral too often leads to worse outcomes - much like in real life ("stand for nothing, fall for anything"). It's not stupid, it's an intentional choice by the game designers.
@Leo.23232
@Leo.23232 Ай бұрын
@@TylerPalma Neutral doesnt mean standing for nothing, it can mean many things and isnt inherently worse in real life thats actually a bit ridiculous to bring up real life when in real life being extreme is usually the option that would lead to the worst outcomes
@TylerPalma
@TylerPalma Ай бұрын
@@Leo.23232 Sure, absolutely. I'm talking about repeatedly picking neutral options. They're not always the worst option and you can pick them without further consequences a lot of the time, but doing so over and over is what doesn't align with what the game and story are trying to do. And again, it's a game. It's not meant to cover the full breadth and depth of human decision making. I only brought up real life because you had mentioned things not being realistic. In real life, sure, it's not a good idea to be too extreme. But being a totally neutral, passion- and personality-lacking person with no firm ideals isn't likely to serve anyone either or make them many friends. Also remember that this game is a space opera, the characters are supposed to be larger than life. Not to mention that the majority of paragon/renegade dialogue choices are just being polite and empathetic or being snarky and sarcastic, not really what I'd call extreme; the renegade interrupts are usually the most extreme impulses but those are there to be fun. Because it's a game.
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA Ай бұрын
I think they just didn't think out a lot of middle options, case in point: multiple times the middle option is the SAME as one on the top or bottom, BUT you wouldn't know it unless you reload to see them all as the text is different. But the lines for neutral aren't. ME2 is better with making them unique and some even give you paragon or renegade options, if you follow a wiki guide on maximizing the score, it's very interesting! Tho picking strictly middle is WAY less points. But picking top bottom or middle interchangeably let you pass all checks contrary to popular belief that you need to stick to top or bottom in ME2.
@Kodasa_Sinclair
@Kodasa_Sinclair 5 ай бұрын
The credit song for Me1, M4 Part II by Faunts, really caught me off guard the first time I ever heard it. After such a wild sci-fi adventure with a mainly orchestral, lyricless score, M4 part II is the perfect cap for that game.
@Dantics
@Dantics 5 ай бұрын
It really made it feel like an epic movie 🎬
@acerazorakjsflasjfka
@acerazorakjsflasjfka Ай бұрын
Yeah it's like a song you would hear at the end of a cool edgy 2000s Matrix-inspired action flick
@lxjoe96
@lxjoe96 5 ай бұрын
I just realised every squadmate got mentioned at least a couple times in this video, except for Jacob, who didn't even get a frame of screentime. This is hilarious as he's known to be the least popular and least interesting squadmate, and this is ironic because it ties back into the video about neutral Shepard, who is in himself the least popular and least interesting version of Shepard
@akrybion
@akrybion 11 күн бұрын
Neutral Shepard and Jacob would be best friends. Just sitting together in silence, T-posing or talking about the weather.
@adrianscott4288
@adrianscott4288 5 ай бұрын
My favourite Mass Effect run was with Idiot Shepard. He made all the worst decisions, got almost every one killed and made the absolute minimum effort possible to defeat the Reapers. The only character i deliberately kept alive through the ME2 suicide mission were Tali and Mordin, purely so i could betray them in the worst way possible in ME3. Though i accidentally let Garrus and the Merc guy live too, mainly because i left just them behind to hold off the collectors and the pair of them actually did it (fucking hard core 😅 ). In the end, Idiot Shepard saved the day and destroyed the Reapers. And probably half the galaxy in the process. 🤦‍♂️
@regraig6869
@regraig6869 4 ай бұрын
Yeah getting the worst possible ending and having everyone die is actually WAAYY harder than keeping everyone alive. . Also I think the whole you leave behind at the end does some sort of base check on total combat strength, which since Tali and Mordin are pure tech, ironically if you'd taken garrus and Zaeed, and left Tali and Mordin, then they would likely have died leaving you with only two which is the deepest ME2 survivors you can have since if your team you bring aren't loyal, they die when the human reaper dies, (which doesn't make any sense) and if either of them do, for some reason you don't make it back to the ship in time , and Shepard dies, ( which also doesn't make much sense) so you have nothing to import to ME3. Thought Tali would normally die on approach to the collector base anyway if you haven't upgraded the ship, unless you bring her to the cargo hold, in which case for some reason Thane is in engineering in her place and dies instead, I don't remember who else does from lack of ship upgrades though
@AnonimatosTM
@AnonimatosTM 4 ай бұрын
Idiot Shepard is the best Shepard. It's always fun to think that Harbinger is using incredible processing power trying to predict his next move, just to get his plans screwed by the next Shepard's random brainfart.
@adrianscott4288
@adrianscott4288 4 ай бұрын
@regraig6869 yeah, i did my research on the mechanics of the suicide mission, and how to do JUST enough to compete it while killing off as many characters as possible. But leaving Zaeed and Garrus behind was an unintended mistake, and I wasn't willing to play through the first 2/3rds of the mission again just to correct it. I especially would have liked to kill off Garrus, but TBH the image of just those two taking out an entire Collector army was a nice consolation prize!
@bennetthaah8236
@bennetthaah8236 2 ай бұрын
If you wait to do Zaeed’s loyalty mission until after the Suicide Mission, you can kill him yourself at the end of the mission. Though, non-loyal companions will die first, so it would be hard to get only him to the end
@F0reman371
@F0reman371 5 ай бұрын
The mark of an amazing game and an amazing developer is putting content in that you're certain 99% of your customers will likely never see. I miss Mass Effect, well...OG Mass Effect.
@Dantics
@Dantics 5 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more! There needs to be more of this
@thegoofystoic
@thegoofystoic 3 ай бұрын
Looks like a lot of the OG team is back for the next one. Hopefully after dragon age we'll get some updates on the release date
@zeezee8558
@zeezee8558 6 күн бұрын
​@@thegoofystoic Most of the OG ex-BioWare team is actually working on a new Mass Effect style game called Exodus. When I say OG's I mean some of the guys who are credited for the best games that BioWare made in the 90s and 2000s. I'm not sure how confident people are in BioWare of today and tomorrow after the underwhelming performance of Veilguard, but these guys behind Exodus seem to be experienced and passionate about what they're creating.
@thegoofystoic
@thegoofystoic 6 күн бұрын
@@zeezee8558 I just saw that trailer and concept art a few days ago. Man, that game sounds so amazing. I know it's a few years away but I can't wait.
@Amphibiot
@Amphibiot 5 ай бұрын
The only Neutral choice i consistently tend to go for is that i will neither condone nor condemn Mordin's genophage modification.
@GeneralFatman27
@GeneralFatman27 5 ай бұрын
I remember that choice at 0:15 because even when I play renegade Shepard, I'm still nice to my boys. I'm not gonna imply that I own Grunt - he follows me because I lead by brutal example.
@arcdecibel9986
@arcdecibel9986 4 ай бұрын
Ah, the Tim Pool Shepard. I was expecting that to be bland, but there was some fun stuff, and the idea of having a dead comrade take the place of Kai Leng is brilliant.
@cosmictreason2242
@cosmictreason2242 3 ай бұрын
Roast noted and approved
@1991Caligula
@1991Caligula 5 ай бұрын
This is quite unique. After all these years of Mass Effect, you had the idea to go completely neutral. Really enjoyed the video!
@Dantics
@Dantics 5 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! I honestly thought when I uploaded this, after putting 100 hours into the trilogy again and spending a few days editing that I would get a maximum of around 5k views. Since it's so uber niche. Glad to see others enjoying it.
@HonestlyYrTrippin
@HonestlyYrTrippin 4 ай бұрын
Some of these lines are genuinely iconic and I never would've seen them, incredible.
@Dantics
@Dantics 4 ай бұрын
I wouldn't have either. It is genuinely a shame.
@luodara2476
@luodara2476 5 ай бұрын
i actually have picked a lot of neutral options depending on the moment. It's nice to see this lvl of commitment to being neutral tho XD
@Dantics
@Dantics 5 ай бұрын
It was very hard to stick to. Some choices and habits are hard to break
@mythsqueuemusic
@mythsqueuemusic 4 ай бұрын
Neutral shepard seems like he's socially awkward or something he seems so oblivious 🤣🤣
@Dantics
@Dantics 4 ай бұрын
Yeah straight up shep-bot.
@TetrisPhantom
@TetrisPhantom 17 күн бұрын
The warehouse workers shooting or talking is based on whether you put away your gun before entering the room. If your gun is out, they assume hostility.
@Steamuch
@Steamuch 5 ай бұрын
To summarize Neutral Shepard: Mass Defect
@acerazorakjsflasjfka
@acerazorakjsflasjfka Ай бұрын
Medium-sized Effect
@RyanTattoo-fx2mb
@RyanTattoo-fx2mb 2 ай бұрын
Shepard became natural and became a ghost lol 😂😂😂 14:31
@Dantics
@Dantics 2 ай бұрын
Is this 'neutral shepard' in the room with us right now?
@basedkaiser5352
@basedkaiser5352 2 ай бұрын
Shepard: "I feel mildly about this."
@Madavar_OW
@Madavar_OW 2 ай бұрын
Never felt so badass during a sponsored segment I actually said out loud "You used the right music, I can't skip it."
@Dantics
@Dantics 2 ай бұрын
It felt badass making it. Thank you, love hearing the work I put in is appreciated.
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA Ай бұрын
4:40 Ethan Jeong is LITERALLY the hardest skill check in the game, most people end up shooting him, he's the only one who needs 12 Persuade or 10 Intimidate (nothing needs 11 or 12 intimidate).
@Kaoshunter13-o1w
@Kaoshunter13-o1w 5 ай бұрын
I am Commander Shepard, and I have no favorites nor dislikes about this store.
@rileyobrien8349
@rileyobrien8349 Ай бұрын
Loved how it ended mid sentence without an ending
@Dantics
@Dantics Ай бұрын
I don't think they wrote anything. Just hit the record button and went to town.
@stevieboymkii
@stevieboymkii 4 ай бұрын
14:10 - the absolutely unwarranted heroic music in this section is great. Just a bunch of people staring intensely at different bits of wreckage.
@JanJansen985
@JanJansen985 5 ай бұрын
14:20 No this is a common glitch, they sometimes dont load guys into cutscenes It happens a lot in the ending bits of ME2
@corditesniffer8020
@corditesniffer8020 5 ай бұрын
I played as a mostly neutral Shepard way back when I first played the game when I was younger because I felt that best reflected my personality and morality 😂 and it fit in most situations in my own mind Plus I guess I was just antisocial when I was younger abs didn’t want to make a fuss or get involved in peoples problems 😂 needless to say I didn’t get massive rewards or massive recognition And often got the most boring or lest profitable situation resolutions 😅
@Mythodyn
@Mythodyn Ай бұрын
Imagine your first playthrough was you just being this milquetoast fence sitter and then you get that cutscene with no rendered Shepard. That would probably have been the most confusing ending and you might just think Shepard died.
@LadyKattrina84
@LadyKattrina84 4 ай бұрын
It was a shock to hear the man who voices Winnie the Pooh as a Krogan. 👀
@Dantics
@Dantics 4 ай бұрын
Just shows his range !
@LadyKattrina84
@LadyKattrina84 4 ай бұрын
@@Dantics Absolutly.
@kagenotatsumaki
@kagenotatsumaki 23 күн бұрын
"I'm your Commander, not your moral compass." CAN WE GET MORE OF THIS IRL PLEASE!?
@LeahSander-s3n
@LeahSander-s3n Ай бұрын
I absolutely loved playing neutral Shep in ME1, felt like a no nonsense military officer focused on the mission.
@oreledoria2537
@oreledoria2537 2 ай бұрын
Watching this video has made me realize that I skipped A LOT of content when I played this trilogy a decade ago in high school. The legendary edition has been sitting in my library for ages. I really need to play it.
@Dantics
@Dantics 2 ай бұрын
I highly recommend it. It's now my comfort game.
@FLASK904
@FLASK904 5 ай бұрын
"Call Liara and tell her I said hello"
@agsdedluxferre2955
@agsdedluxferre2955 4 ай бұрын
I played mostly neutral until it came time for major decisions, I always figured these games weren't meant to be played "straight paragon, straight neutral or straight renegade but a collection of actions leading to one major decision." What ruined ME 3 for me wasn't it's ending it was the lack of neutral options I never even finished the game because of that. Just seeing you go from me2's 3 options to 2 options in the jack scene is still jarring how they got away with basically gutting half the dialogue options lol. I think one of my favorite scenes is the transition in ME1 if you don't romance anyone like I did in my first playthrough. It's a great transition scene to the big fight.
@szalhi
@szalhi 5 ай бұрын
Neutral Shepard stands out so little, he's invisible.
@OpticallEffect
@OpticallEffect Ай бұрын
I'm playing neutral Shepard in ME1 mostly. It's the options that makes more sense for me at most time.
@OYME13
@OYME13 Ай бұрын
The end credits song for ME1 was 🔥🔥 Perfect example of New Retro Wave. NRW being modern music made to sound like 80's music. Good stuff.
@amberhernandez
@amberhernandez 19 күн бұрын
8:35 - Holy _hell_ that had me belly laughing for a solid two minutes (and I'm still going LMAO)
@Dantics
@Dantics 19 күн бұрын
I never saw this dialog before this playthrough and I've played the game too many times to count 😆
@MsStrangeEmilie
@MsStrangeEmilie 5 ай бұрын
During Al-Jilani's interview Garrus was "NOPE"
@phlogistanjones2722
@phlogistanjones2722 4 ай бұрын
INTERRUPTUS! OW ow ow ow ow..... That HURT! I very much enjoyed that and thank you for uploading the "Second Part" and not pulling this one. It still hurts. :) Peaceful Skies
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA Ай бұрын
15:38 Neutral answers to Joker are almost never about morality but just a setup to a different joke, it's worth checking ALL options with him as humor is good.
@5bars3g36
@5bars3g36 4 ай бұрын
If I remember right, there's a mod that edits the appearance of the Noveria Hot Labs scientist to make him look more obviously wounded to justify his decision to not move and risk agitating his wounds.
@toaofender
@toaofender 2 ай бұрын
Some say Neutral Shepard is still at the bar, drinking.
@Bladeninja76
@Bladeninja76 Ай бұрын
You really did get the neutral ending for Mass Effect 1.
@blackmoon2128
@blackmoon2128 Ай бұрын
Well that first upside of not hitting the quicktime event to cure the batarian was kind of obvious, I mean, the real first upside is letting a batarian die, and that is a reward in itself.
@Dantics
@Dantics Ай бұрын
Would be a reward if you could throttle him your self
@JamesRankin-uv8nu
@JamesRankin-uv8nu 5 ай бұрын
If I die now, tell my wife I said 'Hello'.
@LuisManuelLealDias
@LuisManuelLealDias 5 ай бұрын
about 6:30, this is a well known development issue on the game, where Yaroslev was supposed to be badly injured during the conversation, but because they didn't have the assets ready (iirc), they just had him sit down, which feels weird.
@maxwellgarner3445
@maxwellgarner3445 2 ай бұрын
Hes got all the personality of the rock that spongebob drove, and crushes all opposition and attempts at friendship in a similar manner. Hed be an excellent spy in that he could be mistaken for artwork on a wall
@dani-wg1rf
@dani-wg1rf 4 ай бұрын
shepard not being rendered in the final me1 dramatic hero cutscene is so FUCKING funny XDDD
@terrieterblans7027
@terrieterblans7027 Ай бұрын
Thanks I will neutral one! Another play through coming up!
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