Helen Rennie has an excellent video on this ... the best solution is to have one dark pan for roasting and one shiny pan for baking. I'm doing this with my new 1/8 size sheet pans. Keep in mind a dark pan isn't "dirty", it's seasoned in exactly the same way a cast iron or carbon steel skillet is seasoned. You still need to wash your pans with soap and water after every use ... just don't bother scrubbing to bare metal.
@wojtekimbier8 ай бұрын
That's a lot of work and baked oil removed from the sheet pan to learn that it's best not to scrub it at all! Thanks for the video
@PrudentReviews8 ай бұрын
It was 😀 hopefully this saves others the time
@MichaelWayne6410 күн бұрын
I have a really brown circulon cookie sheet and one that was unused. I tried to clean the pan with the baked on oil over the years but after watching your video decided to leave it alone. Thanks for the test you did. Kudos.👍🏻
@ArkhamNorth8 ай бұрын
Ammonia-soaked papers/rags in a garbage bag overnight is better than oven cleaner and safter to use on aluminized/coated pans. I don't do that for sheet pans but it's great for stainless steel pots/pans and BBQ grates.
@Visitkarte8 ай бұрын
Our ovens in Europe are usually delivered with original sized black enameled baking sheets. Silvery surface doesn’t work well at all. I learned that the hard way.
@codybroken8 ай бұрын
Your videos are EXCELLENT!!! Thank you.
@PrudentReviews8 ай бұрын
Glad you like them!
@bohemiansusan28978 ай бұрын
I always heated up the pans in the oven as I would for cleaning the oven, they came out clean. That was a once a year thing. To be honest, I can't see how others have layers of hard grease on the stainless steel cookware. I don't spend too much time scrubbing and I don't get that kind of build up. Though I use stainless steel baking sheets rather than aluminum.
@barry73918 ай бұрын
you could try media blasting using fine garnet, walnut shells or other types of media. Blasting with dry ice is also an option, just try finding some one to do it, not a chance. Just saying there are ways to clean but they just might be impractical. I used to think a cooking item wasn't clean until it shone like the day you first used it. Have you ever looked into a smoker and seen all the caked on smoking residue, that's seasoning, leave it alone and enjoy the food that comes off of it. Yum-O!
@veronikayup5 күн бұрын
If you decide you really want it like new, and the pan is stainless steel or iron (not other metals), you can remove it all by a couple of days of a lye bath in a plastic tub with a lid. But yes, you are right, it's best to not bother cleaning them -they are better with the baked-on seasoning.
@asintonic8 ай бұрын
Dude Now i need a sheet pan too! lol. I'm new , so i have to see your video on sheet pans. Thanks
@PrudentReviews8 ай бұрын
I don't have any videos on sheet pans yet, but I plan to make one in the future.
@OhJodi698 ай бұрын
I'm glad that when I was growing up, we had the "fish stick pan". So brown it was almost black, used only for greasy food, like french fries, biscuits, and fish sticks. I'm glad I learned about this early on! It was a sad day when someone, who thought they were helping, threw the pan away.
@saschamayer4050Ай бұрын
I can relate. 😔
@NettiGamingАй бұрын
😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
@Vandelay6668 ай бұрын
Good video, thank you
@PrudentReviews8 ай бұрын
Thank you
@daisybravo65268 ай бұрын
I mix lye with water paint the solution on and cover sink so it doesn’t dry out. Just rinse. Oil your potatoes lightly.
@rustyp698 ай бұрын
you guys make super helpful videos, thanks a lot and keep it up
@PrudentReviews8 ай бұрын
Really appreciate it!
@keyrarasanchezmichael32118 ай бұрын
I like parchment paper..
@jaclyniicole8 ай бұрын
What do you do if the staining feels sticky/tacky? Should those stains be removed?
@bikeny8 ай бұрын
If my mom was still alive, she'd say THANK YOU for this info. Her sheet pans (no chevron pattern) were used for a multitude of things, but the most important was her Sicilian Pizza. The only times we had a problem with her pizza they were not caused by the pans, but by her. 1. Dough didn't rise (the investigation revealed she had used old yeast; lesson: always check the expiration date). 2. The dough didn't stretch enough to fill the 5 sheet trays. That investigation was a real simple open and shut case (yes, since mom didn't make pizza for us very often, we always wanted to know why a problem happened). Simple math. Her recipe was perfect for 5 trays. Unfortunately as we all looked at all the trays, we counted 6. Basically when she was splitting all dough up and putting them in the pans, she didn't notice she had taken out 6 of them. Not a real problem in the end, just no corners like we are used. Dough was fine, so she cooked the 6 trays. Thanks for bringing back some fond memories of mom and her pizza. And of course confirming that I should not be planning to get them shiny.
@corrinejacobson92328 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video!!
@PrudentReviews8 ай бұрын
Welcome!
@NoZenith8 ай бұрын
Thank you very much, very much. what baking sheet is this and do you Recommend it? I'm in the market
@PrudentReviews8 ай бұрын
You’re welcome. This is a very old Williams Sonoma brand aluminized steel half sheet pan. They still sell this design but only with a non-stick coating, which I don’t recommend for a sheet pan. I’ve heard great things about Nordic Ware and Vollrath sheet pans but haven’t tested them yet.
@NoZenith8 ай бұрын
@PrudentReviews I have heard similar! Thank you so very much for your response. I already have a very large and wonderful AirBake cookie sheet that I keep immaculately clean like you recommend. I always use Parchment paper or Silpats on it. It's been my go-to for snickerdoodles and chocolate chip cookies for going on a decade, and it's still looks new. I highly recommend you try it out if you get the chance. It's a double layer aluminum, so there's air inside of it to help even out the heat so you don't get hotspots. NOT sure how effective it is compared with traditional single layer as This was a gift when I was first getting into baking cookies and all I had was a crappy second hand, very dark metal one that had burn stains that I kept burning cookies on... Moms are great! Actually it would probably be a little more effective if it wasn't a full sheet that took up my entire oven but I just Rotate front to back about 2/3 of the way through baking time as quickly as I can. Everything comes out pretty even except the very corner cookies tend to get a little more done.
@efuass8 ай бұрын
The baking soda/vinegar cleaning solution is a big misconception. There are a ton of articles online saying to clean with this solution. But if you think about it, baking soda neutralizes the vinegar and basically turning it into just plain water. Just use straight up vinegar.
@PrudentReviews8 ай бұрын
Yea, it didn’t work at all for me
@jaywung76168 ай бұрын
Well, sodium acetate solution, but yes, more neutral 😅
@ebonfortress8 ай бұрын
But bubbles! Also, vinegar doesn’t react with fats
@Metal_Vistas8 ай бұрын
A drill or rotary tool with a copper or brass wire wheel will get you down to bare metal (steel, not aluminum, which is much softer) without putting deep gouges into it as sandpaper, grinding wheels, flap wheels and steel wire wheels will. I'm not sure it is worth the effort, particularly if you want it dark for browning, but if you really want to strip an old pan, that will do it.
@markholm70508 ай бұрын
Oven cleaner is likely to attack the metal of an aluminum pan. I used to use sodium hydroxide, the active ingredient of oven cleaner, to dissolve aluminum films from plastic samples. The aluminum bubbled and foamed and completely dissolved.
@ebonfortress8 ай бұрын
And even an high concentration sodium hydroxide (I’ve tried an oven cleaner with five to fifteen percent lye) is pretty bad at removing carbonized oil and I don’t know if going into real danger zone and making huge amounts of solution using drain cleaner or pure sodium hydroxide will help. I wonder if there’s an organic solvent that is effective
@markholm70508 ай бұрын
@@ebonfortress The cost of an organic solvent will be a significant fraction of the cost of a new sheet pan and come with very real risks of fire and toxicity. Better to put the money toward a new pan. As the video points out, a sheet pan with a layer of baked on oil is not ruined, perhaps only limited to certain uses.
@jamessquair68298 ай бұрын
Curious - why didn’t you completely cover the surface with the oven cleaner?
@patrickobrien66488 ай бұрын
I would call that a cast iron skillet. My roommate loves cooking meat, and browns all my aluminum pans. I guess that's a good thing.. lol
@aididdat17498 ай бұрын
What kind of sheet pan is this? Aluminium? Carbon steel?
@ArkhamNorth8 ай бұрын
It looks like an aluminized steel pan. I think it's a re-branded USA Pan.
@peterazlac1739Ай бұрын
With Easy Off you need to heat the pan to 50C otherwise it can take up to 12 hours to work and since the sodium hydroxide gets used up in the reaction you may need mre than one application. I now cover my oven cooking trays with baking foil or bake on baking paper or a silicon baking mat. That way I do not have to clean any of the pans and if you cook meat in a cooking bag neither do you have to clean any other surfaces.
@jesuslovesyoujohn314-218 ай бұрын
I didn't expect it'd make that much difference in browning.
@PrudentReviews8 ай бұрын
I was very surprised
@ebonfortress8 ай бұрын
I guess it has something to do with the fact that black things both absorb and radiate more IR
@davidlacroix6769Ай бұрын
To clean it put the sheet pans in your oven and then set the oven to do a self cleaning. It takes hours but the pans will come out clean. Then you can spend years building up the brown grease again. Our pans were so grungy that I just had to clean them.
@violetviolet8888 ай бұрын
Helen Rennie tested this years ago. Watch her video titled *Seasoning Your Baking Sheets to Improve Browning*.
@vinquinn8 ай бұрын
A new pan is probably cheaper than all those cleaning supplies.
@PrudentReviews8 ай бұрын
exactly
@ironchefboyardeee2 ай бұрын
Is that an aluminum pan? I looked for this pan on WS because I thought the grooves looked nice and functional, and the only pans they have that look like this are steel with an aluminum plating, and a nonstick silicone on top of that. Unless you have an older version that is actually bare metal, maybe that's partly why you had issues cleaning it.
@bunnybunny35368 ай бұрын
I would never buy a grooved sheet pan, that’s just asking for misery IMO.
@jaywung76168 ай бұрын
It's not really seasoning like iron pans. The goal there is to make a thin hard layer of polymerized oil. The problem is too much oil polymerizes into a sticky, softer and thick layer that isn't anti stick. That's what happens on most pans. Just use parchment paper and or oil and don't bother trying to clean it. If you REALLY want to remove it, stick it in a gas oven and run a cleaning cycle. It wont come out shiny because it's not polished, but it will burn off all the residue.
@WarChortle8 ай бұрын
I don't know why, but I thought maybe ultrasonic cleaner might do the trick or electrolysis.
@Philipk658 ай бұрын
Putting yourself through that much work and exposing yourself to those toxins in the oven cleaner demonstrates a dedication to your audience or just an unusual high amount of self loathing lol 😂.
@PrudentReviews8 ай бұрын
I'd like to think it's dedication to my audience, but who knows 😂
@Philipk658 ай бұрын
@@PrudentReviews 🤷♂
@Philipk658 ай бұрын
@@PrudentReviews I do enjoy your reviews though.
@tannarbuck79088 ай бұрын
I hate to be a bummer but the chemicals from the oven cleaner are probably in the fat that was left on the pan and will now go into your food another reason not to clean them
@PrudentReviews8 ай бұрын
Add it to the list!
@killertruth1863 ай бұрын
It’s the same with Pizza Stones and Pizza Trays.
@unclerojelio63208 ай бұрын
Why didn’t you just use a cordless grinder?
@father0428 ай бұрын
We don't have sheet pans like this, ours are all black
@legambaz8 ай бұрын
Cast iron cookware collectors dump their flee market finds into a lye bath for weeks. That usually remove everything. But you're right. Just leave the pan alone
@Ken.-2 ай бұрын
I never clean my toilet for similar reasons. At least that's what I tell people that come over.
@gregrburnett34008 ай бұрын
I would think that if wanted to clean on of those pan, find someone that can "soda blast" them. But I wouldn't worry about it.
@DAT240Z7223 күн бұрын
All that polymerized fat protected the aluminum and created a semi non-stick surface. Your oven cleaner, effectively removed the anodizing. Aluminum without anodizing or a protective layer will corrode! The grey/white oxidation layer that forms on non-anodized aluminum will leave your food with fowl taste.
@coffeeabernethy28238 ай бұрын
If you have a sandblaster...
@jeremiahwolfe8 ай бұрын
Easy Off WILL work, you just have to do it right. DON'T follow the instructions. Do this OUTSIDE. The fumes are terrible. "Well ventilated" doesn't cut it. 1)Sake can of Easy Off Heavy Duty Oven Cleaner well. 2) Thoroughly coat entire surface. It should be very wet with cleaner. It's hard to tell in the video, but it doesn't look like you're using anywhere near enough. 3) Place inside garbage bag!! To keep from drying out. 4) Let sit over night. 5)The next day, everything will just wipe off.
@pardwayneАй бұрын
If you hate the stains that much, use parchment paper.
@scott337618 ай бұрын
The instructions on the can say to heat the oven first. You did not follow instructions and heat the pan.
@joesapienza81218 ай бұрын
I've been lining my baking sheets / pans with parchment paper for more years than I can remember. While not ideal for everything, when it comes to roasting vegetables, baking chicken, fish, cookies, potatoes / french fries and so much more, it's really hard to beat. Pans stay clean and the food comes out just as it should.
@rabbit_scribe8 ай бұрын
Agreed. I just wish I'd started doing it sooner. A couple of my older sheet pans didn't get the benefit 😝
@hashimsalim26658 ай бұрын
🤘
@tckoppang8 ай бұрын
Put the pan in the oven during a self-cleaning cycle.
@PrudentReviews8 ай бұрын
Heard that works but haven’t tried it yet.
@John-kd1bf8 ай бұрын
Personally, I wouldn’t put oven cleaner on a pan where food comes in contact with. Does that oven cleaner say it’s ok for pans?
@ebonfortress8 ай бұрын
@@John-kd1bfall the components are water soluble so a thorough rinse will wash away everything. I regularly use oven cleaner on stainless steel pans, still alive
@Alex.McManus7 ай бұрын
Its the same concept as seasoning cast iron. Why would you wanna wash off the stuff that makes it non stick and keeps the iron from leaching into the food?? Youre going from non stick to sticking. Youre going from enjoying cooking to frustration. Makes no sense. I remembered this concept from when I was 7 years old. Mom would never attempt to clean the seasoning off for those 2 reasons.
@DFBurgermeister8 ай бұрын
Too much work. I don’t have a grooved pan, but I only scrub my sheet pans when there is stuck on food residue. Otherwise, they just go in the dishwasher.
@matteframe8 ай бұрын
Its not dirty, its better...lol
@danr5239Ай бұрын
Just buy a new pan? You wasted so much time and effort and all the chemicals that you put on there you could’ve just went down to the local store and bought a new pan. Problem solved.
@Electrichead648 ай бұрын
Or maybe dont be lazy and clean as you go instead of waiting to scrub your cookware every 5 years
@PrudentReviews8 ай бұрын
As I mentioned, I clean it after each use. This is baked-on oil from roasting, it doesn't come off with dish soap and a sponge.
@Electrichead648 ай бұрын
@@PrudentReviews If you go after it with an SOS pad as you clean up each time, it wont build up to this point. The more you let that patina bake on, the worse (or better) it gets.