Never Let a Creationist "Teach" Evolution (with Forrest Valkai)

[@BuddhaAtheist29]

"A scientist is a child that survived" I love that quote! I want it on a T-shirt 😂.

[@inshadowz]

Forrest should put that in his gift shop, if he hasn't already 😁

[@FakingANerve]

@@inshadowz I would happily buy one to both support him _and_ to wear.

[@inshadowz]

@@FakingANerve Ditto 😁

[@clit_niblr0375]

That's awesome! I would buy a coffee mug and a t-shirt with that quote on it. 👌😁

[@iwkaoy8758]

A scientist is a paid job, knot a child. Children don't work.

[@ModdBoy]

"A scientist is a child that survived." Brilliant!

[@iwkaoy8758]

A scientist is a paid job,knot a child, So aye don't get it. Children don't work.

[@ModdBoy]

@@iwkaoy8758 it’s more about not loosing your child like desire to explore and learn more about the world we live in.

[@iwkaoy8758]

@@ModdBoy OH! That make cents.

[@mikerodgers7620]

@@ModdBoy Nope

[@cindychristman8708]

I love Forrest's enthusiasm and zest for learning/teaching. He brings a smile to my face every time I listen to him. We need more people like him in this world.

[@CritThinkng]

Agreed. I'm such a Forrest fangirl 😬😆

[@BallHog25]

For real. He’s broken down things for me I thought I “knew” and it was just the lack of education in high school on the basics. He’s a great teacher (in a brief form for us)

[@fjccommish]

He has enthusiasm and zest for teaching nonsense.

[@travisbicklepopsicle]

@@fjccommish conspiracy theorists/science deniers really, really suck :-( ..yuck!..eww..UGH!! Gross.

[@captaincookie2785]

​@@fjccommishNot everything you don't understand is nonsense. Forrest actually puts in a lot of effort to make evolutionary biology approachable to the common person. For you to just call that nonsense takes pure ignorance and the lack of a will to learn.

[@ericdellinger6260]

I want to thank both Forrest and Seth for this video. It gives me hope that there are people who are actually intelligent and care about verifiable facts in this country.

[@KaiHenningsen]

Sometimes I think most of those are called "tourists". (Or "illegal aliens".) Other days, I'm not quite so pessimistic.

[@emordnilaps]

Agreed. In addition to Forrest's citation of lactose tolerance, we also know that people have differing receptors for smell and taste, which can explain why, to me, brussels sprouts cannot possibly be food. Some women have a different set of light receptors in their eyes. Much like crustaceans. Look it up.

[@rayfighter]

little overdramatic there, Eric... but I guess it depends on what caliber of reality denying bigots did you watch before these two fine guys. 😀

[@drewharrison6433]

Forrest is an absolute gem. I love his enthusiasm and knowledge. He gives me a little hope for the future and, that's a lot for a cynic like myself.

[@exiztent818]

here, here

[@dmurky]

I love Forest's energy and hearing him talk about science. His enthusiasm reminds me of Neil deGrasse Tyson

[@learningisfun2108]

Both are great communicators!

[@TitusJ]

No joke, watching his channel, I feel that he should have his own educational netflix, hulu, or amazon series

[@grumylynn]

Yes!

[@BuddhaAtheist29]

Nah, he would exhaust Neil deGrasse Tyson.

[@FakingANerve]

@@TitusJ Agreed!

[@OrangeE1987]

Never let a creationist teach. Period.

[@masterlee9822]

What wrong with alternate views? Scientists not challenging scientific theories means the bad theories are not getting weeded out and scientist do lie for caps/cash and politics. Proving environmental science that is barely considered a real science by scientist is a scam could mean environmental scientists losing their funding and jobs resulting in even more lying by the environmentalist scientist who are known for their low IQs compared to the scientists of other sciences.

[@juliandeleon6107]

they can teach just not science, if they want to teach theology, language, literature, economics etc. fine but def not science

[@masterlee9822]

@@juliandeleon6107Alternate to the big bang theory is always a good ideal but must be based in real science.

[@celestecapielano4679]

He is a big fraud, even pretending to be a professor

[@markhaunert5029]

Can't even imagine having a teacher with this much effort and energy.

[@BuddhaAtheist29]

I had a history teacher that was like this about history. My electrical/ electronics was too. They are rare, most of mine just put notes on the board to copy set down and read a book or something.

[@markhaunert5029]

@@BuddhaAtheist29 you were lucky to have had them. I did have a horticulture teacher that was very good after I thought about it. ✌️

[@raysalmon6566]

FV is still very young and subjective he will have many doubts later

[@markhaunert5029]

@@raysalmon6566 what do you mean by " doubts ". Thx.

[@raysalmon6566]

@@markhaunert5029 so much of evolution rethoric is just popular assumptions.. any serious investigation will just raise uncomfortable questions. FV really appeals to surface thinking but would fail if pressed for hard evidence I'm sure he is enjoying the high number of views but his content is just echo chamber stuff

[@evorock]

Who else would love to see Forrest do a colab with Gutsick Gibbon. Two insanely knowledgeable biologists in one place at the same time. As a biologist myself, it is the colab we ALL need!

[@laserfan17]

It would be a match made In heaven, 🔥

[@exceptionallyaverage3075]

OMG that would be so cool.

[@Raz.C]

I'm a chemist, so I'd rather see a colab between Forest and Thunderf00t or NileRed...

[@evorock]

@@Raz.C that would be good too

[@manifold1476]

I think it would be boring - - - because they are both on the same page regarding evolution.

[@ysgol3]

Forrest is a great teacher. As a retired teacher myself, I don't think there's anything more complimentary one can say about a person. Such people are so so special.

[@quantumrobin4627]

Forrest has fantastic content, he’s a blue diamond in this age of anti-science, conspiratorial, religious nationalism ❤️

[@cerberaodollam]

Yeah.... The "blue" part clouds his judgement at times, though.

[@ottonormalverbrauch3794]

@@cerberaodollam No comment on the science deniers more often having a reddish hue?

[@lillia5333]

@@cerberaodollam His blue part does not remove any truthts of what he is saying.

[@joshsimpson1283]

I also happen to be a bit blue, but honestly, I laughed at the fact that I read this as he was talking about how we are too quick to hate people who aren't part of our groups. I want to decide "everyone is my family" as he said, and as hard as this can be, that even includes the Republicans. It's not always easy, but I really try to avoid this tribalism and to show those who disagree with me that I love them too, and we can all be family. We don't need to make anyone the outgroup

[@rogergeyer9851]

QuantumRobin: Who would have though that now in the information news with a quite capable internet we live in the age of science denial. It just makes my head explode in impatience over things like our education system.

[@2l84me8]

If a creationist actually is understood evolution, they wouldn’t be a creationist anymore.

[@DaveCM]

I know some creationists who are very intelligent and fully understand evolution. They simply believe that God directs it.

[@2l84me8]

@@DaveCM There’s no reason to engage in that redundancy. Evolution is a natural process that’s demonstrable and has explanatory power. There’s no reason to artificially insert an unproven god character into all of this.

[@wgriffin3460]

"A scientist is a child who survived". This is brilliant.

[@todayandtomorrow360]

FV became a heavyweight in this commuity so fast is is baffling. Since he made his skeptic debut, which seems like less than a year ago, he is already a regular on The Athesist Exp. And to think he just started as a biology KZbinr, also fairly recently. Nice job, man. You are inspiring people to get involved and speak the Ahteist Gospel. These YouTiube videos are not nearly as easy to produce as I initially thought, but you certainaly motivate alot of us. Thank you.

[@mikereid3351]

Not baffling at all. His enthusiasm, intellect, passion, and oratory skills are infectious. Indeed, a heavyweight. The world needs more Forrests.

[@Soapy-chan_old]

He started on TikTok actually

[@todayandtomorrow360]

Oh did he? I do not have TikTok. Regardless, he grew pretty damn quickly. I tried to make an atheist YT channel and I gotta admire the time he puts into it. Not an easy task. But thanks for correcting me.

[@arthapeterson5239]

I don't think "Atheist Gospel" is a good term to use. Just IMHO, but the word "gospel" gives a connotation of religion - that atheists don't need. How about Atheist Manifesto? or Atheist Viewpoint. or Atheist Reality.

[@internetidiot4206]

@@arthapeterson5239 Most of the time, just saying “Gospel” isn’t taken as religious if you aren’t speaking about religion directly. And atheists can be religious. Belief in God/Gods are not a requirement for a religion. Moral codes and concrete statements of reality make a religion.

[@mikefochtman7164]

This is a great discussion. I love the notion that children start out as 'scientists', exploring the world around them. I remember myself taking apart every mechanical toy I ever had. It sometimes frustrated my dad when we both couldn't get it back together lol. And the concepts about 'evolution doesn't have any goal other than reproduction' and experiments must be wrong because they don't agree with my expectations. Another great topic. Really though, you've touched on so many great topics, I wish this could be mandatory discussion in every school classroom.

[@ezbody]

Same here. Caused a lot of grief for my father. 🙂

[@bbriley721]

I was told by my mom that I disassembled an iron or a toaster, don't recall which, reassembled and it worked. At the age of two. 60 now and still disassembling, repairing, restoring, rebuilding just about anything mechanical or electro-mechanical. Many times, learning as I go. I think mechanical aptitude is genetic, as are most other traits, such as being musically inclined or athletic skills. You can learn most anything, but there are those that just have an inherent ability.

[@wintergray1221]

I disassembled and reassembled our VCR once when it maliciously ate a tape. A very fun afternoon for an 8-year-old.

[@Mehki227]

​@@bbriley721My brother. He'd take anything apart as a toddler and put it back and you'd pick it up and it would fall apart in your hands until he learned to put them back together correctly. We learned to never leave an electronic or appliance with him, because he's take it apart and "sup" it up. Now my blow dryer is practially a flamethrower. 😂We're in our 60's now and I notice that he and I still love learning. As a lifelong learner I'm so excited to have learned about this guy and have already subscribed to his channel.

[@robinhood20253]

This is literally what happened to me. Three years ago I was a trump supporter. Then I watched Sam Harris and studied evolution. Overnight my empathy was activated and fell in love with science. Many of the people I once felt so close to look so small minded and cold hearted. Now my tribe is humanity and atheists and trans people.

[@wintergray1221]

You give me hope for humanity.

[@robinhood20253]

@@wintergray1221 I understand. It seems I must be the only one here where I live. I had many strangers squinting at my pro choice and non republican candidate signs halloween.

[@DoctorShocktor]

good job putting in the work. It’s just that simple, but many MAGA goofs are simply lazy, much less uneducated.

[@robinhood20253]

@@DoctorShocktor thank you. I think they do alot of work to continue to follow along, mental gymnastics.

[@jawi9972]

what video of Sam Harris did you watch?

[@gigibythesea1133]

As a biology teacher I am appalled at the number of time I have gone to an evolution site only to realize it is a creation or ID site disguising it's self as science. I am trying to teach my students how to recognize real science, but it gets harder every year with all the pseudoscience nonsense and the battle with social media spreading so much misinformation!

[@Anonymous-bv6vy]

I love Forrest he's so intelligent and articulate

[@goldenknight578]

And he makes learning fun. We need more teachers like him in the world.

[@joanneblough6958]

Forrest is so amazing. I am awed, and a little jealous, of his intellect, enthusiasm, and ability to clearly articulate complex ideas. An avid fan.

[@masterofreality5682]

Me Too !!

[@kayew5492]

The greatest joy and privilege of being a parent is the chance to experience the world anew through the eyes of a child. Why do we feel the need to stifle that? I didn't always manage to see it that way, but the days that I did were magical. One of my most precious memories is walking my 3 year old to nursery, playing with our shadows doing jumping jacks all down the street. He must be an awesome teacher, we need a few thousand more like him.

[@stephenolan5539]

Unclear antecedent. Who is the awesome teacher? Your son? Simon Cowel once said he learns a lot from his five year old son.

[@kayew5492]

@@stephenolan5539 I did learn a lot from my children, it's true, but I was actually referring to Forrest Valkai. His enthusiasm for his subject makes him a great educator.

[@svengaefgen5909]

Two of my favorite communicators in one go, nice. I really enjoyed the conversation.

[@JamesRichardsPlays]

If only people like Forrest were more common when I was going through school... Imagine what things I could have been motivated to do way back when... At least one good thing has come out of Forrest coming on to KZbin; I have decided to go back to Uni, finish what I started in 2001.

[@bruhmoment1835]

Congratulations!

[@wax99]

Forrest came completely out of the left field. I freaking love this guy! He has all the energy, mannerisms, charisma and knowledge that I only wished I had too. Btw, that's the same reason why I ended up not to go into teaching.

[@amandaw6872]

I always feel so uplifted after listening to Forrest. His energy is so contagious and positive!

[@feliciam1091]

I'm a kindergarten teacher, and listening to him talk about how to explain science is so inspiring! I already have a science experiment planned for next week, which I plan to have my students conduct twice throughout the year to show them that, if our hypothesis is right, the results should repeat. Thanks for putting out this video!

[@Techrat3D]

Now I wish that Forrest was my science teacher back in school. Because then I would have been much more hyped for science.

[@Johnmhatheist]

I was raised in a Christian family, and I hated science because I was a strong and devout Christian. Now, as a 27 year old atheist, I'm so interested in science. I wish I had been interested in science when I was a kid.

[@Techrat3D]

@@Johnmhatheist I know what you mean. At least I am happy, that my son is not only getting a good education, but that he is also interested in science.

[@tommyhayes8702]

Mr. Valkai is correct when he says that the main goal of teaching, whatever subject, it to teach students where to look and not what to see. As a teacher of History and Political Science, this is my approach. You put the primary sources in their hands, help them past any archaic language and let them interpret, analyze, and synthesize what they are seeing. Ask them questions and tease out their responses, expose and purge their own biases from the process and teach them how to identify the biases of others, especially the source materials, and otherwise teach them the nuance of critical thought. We must first start with how it relates to them and their lives - else, they don't care. Show them they have what it takes to go forth and learn on their own. To reach better conclusions. To avoid the traps inherent to seeking simple answers and, perhaps most important of all, give them the space to make mistakes, learn, and grow. There are plenty of teachers out there who still teach according to the dull principles you criticize here and they either need to evolve or be rooted out.

[@d.e.t4147]

I started following Forrest earlier this year and was SO excited to see he was part of this show today. What a terrific interview and conversation between you two. Forrest’s passion and enthusiasm is so contagious and inspiring!!

[@Killerkiki313]

This was literally a life changing video for me. When Forrest talked about tribalism and how you can choose everything to be part of your family… that was big for me. I’ve been thinking about this tribalism issue in America for a few months now and the vitriol everyone has for each other was starting to make me feel hopeless. I didn’t know how we can fulfill our desire for tribalism without tearing each other apart. But the idea of seeing every creature on earth as your tribe? That’s a path forward that I can get behind.

[@dawndead9591]

Awesome. There should be a super-like button. Such articulate passion and enthusiasm! Valkai has been a wonderful KZbin discovery. Thanks for expanding his platform further, Seth. Plus Rational Humanism on fire!

[@dannycomellas]

I've been dying for this collaboration since I realized that Forrest is also from Tulsa. So glad this happened. Can't wait to watch.

[@cynthiasloan3867]

What a fantastic video. I had no idea Forrest Valkai had such an impressive background but I've always loved his videos too. Y'all give me hope for humanity and I thank you

[@Letts_prey]

Two great objective minds of reason, intelligence, lucidity, knowledge, and wisdom. We need many, many more people like Seth and Forrest in our world. Thank you both of you, for this exceptional discussion.

[@humanitech]

Although they are two great people ...the truth is, we all just need to help eachother (or as many as possible) to become more curious, thoughtful, open minded and questioning...and not be so blinkered, polarised, irrational, delusional or dismissive. ....Although that is sometimes difficult in regards to those trapped in the latter categories and groupings . As creating of maintaing lies, fear, ignorance, divisions and exploitative systems and groups is very easy.... so it takes many to collectively work together to mutually create positive and meaningful changes....hopefully which should be for the betterment of all ...not just those with power and profit agendas of being puppet masters.

[@DoorknobHead]

That was like a three hour video condensed into an hour, because of how fast Forrest puts it out there.

[@MetallicAAlabamA]

Two Oklahoma natives face to face lol! Forrest is quickly becoming one of my favorite KZbin content creators, and is a rabid ball of information energy. Love it!

[@mikaelamonsterland]

i had a creationist homeschooling co op science class using ken ham curriculum and the teacher was always telling us we're only doing the lesson on evolution because it's mandatory but none of this is actually true. it's so horrible and disgusting looking back at it. i don't know why there aren't regulations to prevent people from doing things like this

[@FakingANerve]

Jesus! That's truly disgusting! I'm glad you made it to the other side, so to speak. 🍻

[@iveseen1]

Don't worry, we are approaching an epoch in science and understanding, it's only through truth and education that this iron age stupidity will diminish.

[@bbriley721]

Yes, there should be laws against child indoctrination into cults, of which all religions are. There should be laws against knowingly spreading disinformation. One of the things that Forrest said that I also say often is "children should be taught how to think, not what to think".

[@iwkaoy8758]

@@bbriley721 Wood ant that bee against de Evolutionist bee leafs system?

[@mikaelamonsterland]

@@iwkaoy8758 what are you even saying? that string of words is completely nonsensical

[@Cat_Woods]

I was "taught evolution" by a creationist in a public school. I knew what she was doing was not legal, but I was afraid of my parents making a scene, so I kept my mouth shut. As it was, the teacher had already humiliated me in front of the whole class for not being a Christian. By the end of class, everyone but one person in the class said they were convinced by creationism. I'm ashamed to say that person wasn't me. The teacher made us stand on one side of classroom or the other, and I had been so misled by her misinformation that I took the path of least resistance and stood with the creationists, even though I wasn't really convinced. I didn't unlearn her miseducation until over a decade later when I saw Richard Dawkins' Christmas lectures on Climbing Mount Improbable. That's why I'm still grateful to him, despite unfortunate comments he's made on other subjects in recent years.

[@rickmartin7596]

Your story is why more students need to secretly record their classes.

[@Cat_Woods]

@@rickmartin7596 And to develop a willingness to fight for their right to be educated.

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

I had a physics teacher like Forrest. He got very animated, once he almost fell out of a large window he was so into it! One kid grabbed him just in the nick of time.

[@irenafarm]

I had an anthropology professor who gave himself a concussion at least once a year, slamming into a post or cabinets…he did it once during a lecture, leaping up after triumphantly switching the slide, yelling, “AND LOOK HE’S STILL WITH US….” Bam, right into a post next to the desk.

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

@@irenafarm Ouch, but the pain wears off eventually, and well; minor injury can make for a great show! Really helps the learning process! But professor! You said you had to beat it in our heads, but your beating your own! How's that supposed to work?😆😜

[@Mehki227]

I had two history teachers in HS (I was party of this great experiment to take the brightest of us poor kids and get us up to par to enter college - it was called the College Bound program), who co taught. One got on and it was deadly; the other teacher, I can still remember what he taught. No idea what the heck the other teacher ever said about anything. I'm 70 and still remember groaning when it was his term, but being so excited for the other.

[@mildredmartinez8843]

Forrest 's enthusiasm and the clarity of his explanations is so refreshing. His smile is so great.

[@Kim_Miller]

I came across Forrest Valkai only a few months ago and every time I hear him I'm amazed. He holds so much stuff in his head and it's all instantly accessible and on point. The kids in the classes he teaches must have a fantastic time on the day but it will be years before they appreciate the depth that he brings to the class room.

[@MikeHIMH]

Forrest is one of my favourite people in the whole world. I could listen to him all day long!

[@karnovtalonhawk9708]

im 53 and always think if Forrest had been my teacher back in science class how much more would i have listened. the guy is a powerhouse of facts and the promotion of learning.

[@raysalmon6566]

FV is saying a lot things that don't add up the overall character of the fossil reco Evolution, A Theory rd as it stands today was superbly summarized in an article by G. G. Simpson prepared for the Darwin Centenary Symposium held in Chicago in 1959. Simpson is a leading paleontologist whose testimony to the reality of the gaps in the fossil record has considerable force. As he points out, it is one of the most striking features of the fossil record that most new kinds of organisms appear abruptly:16 They are not, as a rule, led up to by a sequence of almost imperceptibly changing forerunners such as Darwin believed should be usual in evolution. A great many sequences of two or a few temporally inter-grading species are known, but even at this level most species appear without known immediate ancestors, and really long, perfectly complete sequences of numerous species arc exceedingly rare. Sequences of genera immediately successive or nearly so at that level (not necessarily from one genus to the next), are more common and may be longer than known sequences of species. But the appearance of a new genus in the record is usually more abrupt than the appearance of a new species; the gaps involved are generally larger, that is, when a new genus appears in the record it is usually well separated morphologically from the most nearly similar other known genera. This phenomenon becomes more universal and more intense as the hierarchy of categories is ascended. Gaps among known species are sporadic and often small. Gaps among known orders, classes and phyla are systematic and almost always large. \fn{Simpson, G.G. (1960)} "The History or Life" in The Evolution of Life, ed Sol Tax, University of Chicago Press, Chicago, pp 117180, seep 149.] The virtual complete absence of intermediate and ancestral forms from the fossil record is today recognised widely by many leading paleontologists as one of its most striking characteristics, so much so that those authorities who have adopted the cladistic framework now take it as axiomatic, that, in attempting to determine the relationships of fossil species, in the words of a recent British Museum publication: "we assume that none of the fossil species we are considering is the ancestor of the other." 17 [British Museum (Natural History) (1980) Man's Pl ace in Evolution, p20. **Michael Denton Evolution, A Theory in Crisis**

[@karnovtalonhawk9708]

@@raysalmon6566 you really should go write a book because you pretty much already have here. and i dont care what one christian scientist thinks when 99.99% of them all agree. evolution is one of the most proven theories we have. his last book was written over 60 years ago as well so i think things might have moved on a little.

[@raysalmon6566]

there is too much political correctness and dogma in FV

[@Elderbch]

I love Forrest Valkai. The enthusiasm he brings to education grabs your attention and holds it. It makes a person want to know more, go deeper, seek truth, and share that excitement for learning. If only every educator were so passionate!

[@eileenmiller9914]

Forrest's enthusiasm is awesome! We need more educators just like this. He's so smart and excited about science. We need more of this!

[@DeeBoudreau]

I really enjoyed this conversation. Thanks, gentleman 🙂

[@MarcLombart]

Change of title. Never let a creationist teach.

[@tejasgreen1717]

Well, I didn’t know the lactose gene thing. So I learned something today! Thanks guys!

[@joed1950]

Yeah, and I hear Lactose is in human saliva so digestion of milk begins even before swallowing. Could be that is how important milk is to infants.

[@ralphmunn1685]

Two clear minds having a discussion worthy of having a wider hearing. Thanks to both of you! 🙏

[@jklein17]

Wow the more I hear from Forrest the more I like him. I love how animated he is when he's trying to get his points across.

[@fiercemonkey1]

Great format, nice lighting! Also it’s a breath of fresh air with both of you on the same video! Please have Forrest on again! He would make a great battle buddy Seth and both of u guys are close! (In proximity) COLAB MORE DUDES!! 🖖😊

[@whatabouttheearth]

He always has good sound, as in the voices usually sound particularly good. There is a bit of reverb in this vid though, and it's slightly high.

[@heyidaroo]

Forrest is the type of science teacher that an AuDHD kid like me would’ve loved to have. The American education failed neurodivergent kids in the 1990s 2000s (they still kinda are in some ways). Teaching the hands on “fun” stuff THEN teaching the history of it is a much easier way for many neuro kids to understand the material, instead of starting with rote memorization. That being said, my ADHD has gotten distracted MULTIPLE times by the green screen glitch 😅

[@nerfzombie6242]

Fantastic interview! Forrest should teach all the things!!

[@Fclwilson]

I recently learned about the black frogs in the Chernobyl zone. If I understand it, the rare black frog’s melanin protects them from radiation. Therefore, there are mostly black frogs in the radiation zone. Great comment on education. I love word problems because I get to assess what I know and what I need to solve the puzzle.

[@Z4r4sz]

Unfortunately most of the time it doesnt matter how many reallife examples you mention to creationists. They will always evade or pretend they suddenly know everything about your example which is of course evidence for creationism. Its insane.

[@Fclwilson]

@@Z4r4sz I agree. The moment a person allows some belief to take precedence over evidence that person has switched off critical thinking.

[@TajFaerie]

26:21 That's one of the most beautiful ways to describe a scientist that I've ever heard

[@alexmcd378]

I knew the world was in trouble when I shared some interesting fact and I was told "why would you want to know that?" Not"why do you know that?", but why would you even want to know things.

[@WilbertLek]

I feel your pain. Every day.

[@paul.c.gregory]

If I could go back and relive my school years, I’d want Forrest as my teacher, or at least someone with the same energy and enthusiasm.

[@ernest3286]

That last part made me cry, where Valkai talked about the positives about tribalism and social media and how they can enable us to be more empathetic.

[@gregthomson8251]

Hands down has to be your best interview Seth, not to mention the best interview of its type I have EVER seen. Well done and Forrest, you are amazing, as always.

[@babarumraisin4863]

Absolutely fantastic discussion with two of my favorite people!

[@ellenmellen84]

I wish I could have had Forrest as a teacher, I would have actually cared and done well! What an amazing collaboration- I want more Seth and Forrest conversations!

[@not_a_theist]

‘A scientist is a child that survived’ ❤️❤️❤️

[@janwoodward7360]

Every time someone uses the “ we’re not animals”, my response is…so what are we, vegetable or mineral.

[@Z4r4sz]

watch?v=rkqKGS7zL0A Sorry that its in german but this is what I imagine the answer would be like. Things are animals, vegetables or rocks :D

[@MG-ot2yr]

Today I'm feeling rather like an eggplant

[@laserfan17]

Absolutely, people who say we aren’t animals really have no idea of what an animal actually is. 🤦🏻‍♂️🦧

[@irenafarm]

Forrest said in a Reacteria once: “We move too much to be plants; we’re too big to be bacteria.”

[@vestafreyja]

Forrest Valkai reminds me so much of my Senior High School vice-Principle the late Gil Menzies (B. Ed, M. Ed) who taught a section in Biology 30 almost 50 years age and today what I remember from Gil was his passion and love of teaching and I see similiar qualities in Forrest.

[@WillPhil290]

This was one of the most interesting interviews I've ever seen in my life... wow

[@hardryv3719]

Watching this interview made me better -- a better: .. person .. scientist .. thinker .. conservationist .. atheist I cherish both of these men.

[@kelliepatrick519]

It's important to realize that for Creationist 'educators', they are not trying to convince science-educated people; they are trying to keep creationist-educated people convinced.

[@WilbertLek]

That's what all "gods-believers" do. Not convince the opposition, but reassuring "gods-believers".

[@christopherknight3737]

Fantastic discussion, both of you guys are so interesting and thought provoking. Thank you!

[@alextheskater]

"A scientists is just a child that got so excited about the universe, the excitement never went away." (26:20 I changed the quote slightly without losing the meaning, but all credit still goes to Forrest, I want this on a t-shirt)

[@russhamel]

Just when I think the last guest Seth interviewed was the absolute best, along comes another topper! Seth and Forrest, thank you for an incredible hour!

[@387Dan]

Forrest is a really great speaker. So glad his voice is receiving so much amplification.

[@bbriley721]

One of the things that Forrest said that I like and also say often is "children should be taught how to think, not what to think".

[@Skogles]

An hour of Forrest Valkai? Yes please! Hes the best!

[@marthawolfsen5809]

Charles Darwin frequently used his own children as scientific assistants. ("Look, children, there are two different kinds of primrose blossoms! Let's study that! I need you to run outside in the sunshine to pick flowers for me!) Apparently the kids loved "working" for their father.

[@Da_Dingus]

Wasn’t expecting a Game of Thrones discussion. I’m here for it!! Feel free to talk more about your opinions with film, tv, and stuff like that!

[@CatCaretakerID]

Thank you so much for asking Forrest a question and then listening and then letting him go wherever his answer took went. So many interviewers are only looking for the quick, short sound-bite answer. I learned and in some cases was just reminded about science and concepts I had forgotten. Great job!

[@cathe8282]

Those last few minutes were the most positive, hopeful inspiring sentences I've heard in a long time. Thank you.

[@kennethh8086]

Seth and Forrest are both excellent communicators. I'd like to see this sort of conversation with you both repeated. Thanks for the basic education.

[@Citadel97501]

I love Forrest, he is one of those teachers that students love because he makes you care :)

[@rckli]

This video is so important, I feel, for teenagers to hear A conversation like this helped me when I was a teen, I can guarantee ppl like me would too

[@thanjay1867]

One important thing about the selection of those moths: the allele frequency of both light and dark colored moths was about the same until the industrial revolution (said moth species lives in the UK) when soot and ash from the factories darkened the trees surrounding them. This led to an advantage for darker moths as they blended in with the discolored trees while the light colored moths were more easily predated. Human beings have tremendous and often unintended effects on their surroundings and I love that Forrest ended talking about that.

[@Jonathan_Wall]

I'm always happy to see another vid with Forrest in it but also sad because I've already watched every other video of his and I have no more new content until his next one :(

[@ScottWorthington]

I haven't watched yet, but I'm sure This is gonna be GOOD. Yep. Two of my favorite YT creators in one video. It waas more than I expected. Thanks Forrest and Seth.

[@ChristineMaryJCB]

Forrest sounds like a truly amazing teacher. I’d love to take any class he teaches.

[@desiderata8811]

In fact, we have smaller brains than our ancestors had 50 thousand years ago.

[@laserfan17]

@@desiderata8811 Smaller brains don’t equal reduced cognitive capacity though, it’s more efficient brains, as demonstrated by our own comparison with Neanderthals. Smaller skulls were probably produced by natural selection. For humans with smaller brains it would’ve been easier to be born with less risk to the mother, making it an advantageous trait to have.

[@desiderata8811]

@@laserfan17 .agree. I’m just saying our brains got smaller, unlike what Valkai said.

[@voicesoftoday7583]

Truly inspiring! This young man is a beacon of hope for mankind.

[@Alessandro-B]

Forrest is such a charming, effervescent, enthusiastic, fantastic teacher, I love his KZbin channel. And this is now the third time I've listened/watched this podcast.

[@raysalmon6566]

Ok it looks FV in many cases is just promoting propaganda The fossils have not only failed to yield the host of transitional forms demanded by evolution theory, but because nearly all extinct species and groups revealed by paleontology are quite distinct and isolated as they burst into the record, then the number of hypothetical connecting links to join its diverse branches is necessarily greatly increased. The absence of transitional forms from the fossil record is dramatic ally obvious (even to a nonspecialist without any knowledge of comparative morphology) where a group possesses some significant skeletal specialization or adaptation which is absent in its presumed ancestral type. **Michael Denton Evolution, A Theory in Crisis**

[@briannewton3535]

I totally loved this production. Seth and Forrest just clicked here. I learned cool stuff, and laughed too. Awesome start to the day. Thanks to you both.

[@Deicide-xi5eo]

I am so glad that people like Seth and Forrest exist.

[@alanchoichang8336]

if i had a teacher like forrest, i wouldve probably pursued biology...

[@masterlee9822]

or just bought a box of cat poop thinking their chocolates .

[@beantownbanshees]

@@masterlee9822 so… Forrest doesn’t know what actual biology is? Come on dude, flesh out your thinking.

[@1ApeinSpace]

I would rather have questions that cant be answered, than answers that cant be questioned.

[@crizolaczarrazcalozirc6052]

Wow, that was incredible, Seth, you’re one of the best hosts ever and Forest your energy and explanation power is euphoric, I wish for you both to have 8 billion subscribers. Really great job thank you.

[@ArdyAryan]

Seth, Thanks for inviting Forrest on your show, one of your best interviews for sure.

[@caelanshong3765]

There's nothing wrong with people who make a living following orders and doing what they're told and living a simple life. The problem is when people aren't given the choice to live or not to live that life. Loved this video!

[@dressleel]

24:50 to 26:40 caused me to cry involuntarily. Beautiful!

[@joanfregapane8683]

What great collaboration! I always learn something from Forrest- and Seth a well.

[@BruceCarroll]

Two of my favorite educators in one video! Thanks so much Seth and Forrest.

[@exurbian2420]

Forest's closing monologue is legendary. wonderful interview. earned a subscriber

[@learningisfun2108]

My hope is that as the world continues to shrink (easier and more frequent travel to other countries, easier communication), we will not see people from foreign places as “others” to be feared and hated, rather as our brothers and sisters in the human species, more alike us than not. And this will cause us to reflect on our own biases and practices with a critical eye. We will only get better with a broader view. I believe a lot of our problems stem from a myopic, inward point of view.

[@xBlueSkittlesx]

This man is my hero. Actually both men are my heroes.

[@TitusJ]

TWO OF MY FAVORITE CONTENT CREATORS!!!!!!!!! I LOVE THIS!!!!!!!

[@pezzaman4582]

What an amazing conversation, by two amazing people. So insightful.

[@DiscoverWithDeLo]

26:21 “A scientist is a child that survived” puts its perfectly