Never Lose Power Again: Whole Home Portable Generator Backup Setup. NEW Predator 13000 Watt Tri-Fuel

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@Chuckm0821
@Chuckm0821 8 ай бұрын
Every house I have owned I have done this. Great job!
@gordiehattrick
@gordiehattrick 7 ай бұрын
Great video! Keep in mind, that genny puts out a high THD. Be careful powering sensitive electronics, which is just about everything today. The Westinghouse WGEN115000TFC has a bit more power output, is TriFuel and the most important feature is a THD less than 5%.
@deanowright359
@deanowright359 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for this useful information Just bought a 13000 Predator Will go Shipp for a Westinghouse They are hard to find
@marcusguajrdo73
@marcusguajrdo73 3 ай бұрын
Cheap generator predator uses copper wire
@benton92074
@benton92074 Ай бұрын
@@marcusguajrdo73 Seems odd that Predator only offfer 90 day warranty and Westinghouse comes with a 3 year warranty if its so cheap why such a big difference. I did some research and most of the Westinghouse are copper wound as well. They do have a few aluminum on the very low end, but most are copper wound I think. I am still shopping around myself.
@jonny8547
@jonny8547 Ай бұрын
I keep reading statements like this everywhere but I also keep hearing that it’s not a big deal and people have been using regular generators for decades with no problem. Even the power company has a much larger total harmonic distortion than 5%. I’m still shopping around d myself and don’t claim to be an expert
@stinerart1
@stinerart1 15 сағат бұрын
An electrical engineer tested a 13k tri with a legit meter device and got 6%. Just because predator states the 23% does not mean it is that high. Funny that there is always this comment, duromax reps earning their coin for sure.
@AXNJXN1
@AXNJXN1 3 ай бұрын
Excellent video and I have the same Generator thus, purchased it for this exact same need. It's a dirty sinewave but it gets the job done for the cost value. I'll be doing the exact same transfer switch setup, with the only exception of upgrading to 6AWG for load values vs the 8AWG and never have to look at it again. Thank you for the clear shot video.
@ACommenterOnYouTube
@ACommenterOnYouTube 2 ай бұрын
how do you know its dirty ?
@timnevitt2993
@timnevitt2993 Ай бұрын
@@ACommenterOnKZbin because it dont have inverter to clean up the power wave
@ACommenterOnYouTube
@ACommenterOnYouTube Ай бұрын
@@timnevitt2993 well dirty power does not hurt electronics as most electronics have filters on their input power supply. Next its the voltage spikes that hurt the electronics. Most electronics use 105-240V so any voltage in that area is safe, if the voltage goes above 240V, thats when you have an issue. Next most name brand generators might have "dirty" power but they clean up once they go under load. They are only "dirty" when on idle and no load because there is no reason to be clean with no load. Next a guy here on KZbin did show a champion generator and showed the "dirty" sinewave under idle but when he put a load on it, it cleaned up a lot.
@stinerart1
@stinerart1 15 сағат бұрын
@@ACommenterOnKZbin my 13k has run everything no problem. No flickering or drama from devices at all.
@Upwegoo
@Upwegoo 8 ай бұрын
You are very inspiring and this is the kind of life I’m starting to build
@Create208
@Create208 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@3gasman
@3gasman 4 ай бұрын
I just purchased the same generator for our new house. I had electricians wire a power feed from my shop back to the house during the build. I can now power back to the house main panel from the shop and only need to roll generator around the corner under my porch roof
@alanjbuddendeck186
@alanjbuddendeck186 8 ай бұрын
Very informative. Straightforward, clear and very easy to understand. Really appreciate the helpful information. I'll use this to ask my electrician about a propane-based whole-house solution for my house and barn. Again, very helpful and clear. Much appreciated from the Virginia Piedmont.
@Create208
@Create208 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@brandonmartin9298
@brandonmartin9298 3 ай бұрын
Man that interlock is a great idea! Thanks for showing that!
@prestonrenify
@prestonrenify Ай бұрын
You made that look so easy...thanks. Suggest you take a serious look at the power quality rating of that generator (THD
@34dawgsgo
@34dawgsgo 5 ай бұрын
Thanks. Good to know these connecting steps. Easy to forget. Have the same setup for 2nd home. Duromax 1300 dual fuel.
@2AToday
@2AToday 8 ай бұрын
Great video! Love what you did with putting the channel name above the work bench btw
@Create208
@Create208 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@AstroRocketDogs
@AstroRocketDogs 2 ай бұрын
Did you have to mess with the generator to change bonded neutral to floating or is it ok to leave it as is?
@mcw1593
@mcw1593 8 ай бұрын
Considering that some high current loads could be active at the time of disconnect, I would flip the generator input breaker at the panel first instead of at the generator. Why? Because opening a circuit with high current flow will cause an arc and the breaker in the panel is more durable than the ones they installed in the generator. It is also easier to replace on failure.
@Create208
@Create208 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for the info!
@jackd7494
@jackd7494 2 ай бұрын
Well done young man.
@mikekjellman
@mikekjellman 8 ай бұрын
well edited!
@Create208
@Create208 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@joshe9518
@joshe9518 4 ай бұрын
Electrician here.We generally use #6 for 50 Amps.However, those short whips being #8 shouldn’t cause issues. That said great set up. I’m about to do the same thing at my house. I’m running natural gas though.
@ryancashmore792
@ryancashmore792 3 ай бұрын
Great video and nice setup. This is the only video I’ve found where the generator inlet box is attached directly to the side of the panel. Is that acceptable? Is there a reason more people don’t do it? Thanks.
@codyschwoch5451
@codyschwoch5451 Ай бұрын
Those that are thinking of generators, I would recommend this generator due to the price of it, as well as the fact that it is multiple gas if need to be, but one thing that I would like to let people know since I own it, I would know getting more wattage using Gasoline so that 13,000 W is gasoline and on a raisin occasions you can get close to that with propane but not completely with propane you can get about 11,000 W maybe 12,000 W so that’s something for people to think about if they’re looking for a generator is yes you get a generator that gets multiple gasbut each gas type produces a different amount of wattage
@russgenders7550
@russgenders7550 6 ай бұрын
dude!! killer. Thanks for this video. I'm so sick of our power outages over here been looking for an affordable solution!
@FireoftheGreeks
@FireoftheGreeks 8 ай бұрын
Pretty sweet setup! One question though, why do you have your panel outside the house and not in the shop? Worst case situation: Someone could roll up and shut the entire house down from outside.
@Create208
@Create208 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! I have that panel outside, a 200a sub panel in the shop, and a 125a sub panel in the living area. Most houses have a main disconnect at the service panel outside like mine. It’s pretty crazy but yes, a lot of people could have their entire house shut down from the outside!
@CremeDeLaCreme72
@CremeDeLaCreme72 7 ай бұрын
Any info on how long a tank of propane will last on continuous run and what the decible level is of the generator?
@jwhite26
@jwhite26 4 ай бұрын
Well depends on what size tank I bet.
@peterkohler7259
@peterkohler7259 8 ай бұрын
Beautiful home and great idea. I did the same thing on my house a couple years ago. Is there a reason you used 8 GA versus 6 GA? 8 GA is rated for 40 amps whereas 6 GA is 55A. Typically use 6 GA wire for 50A breakers. By code around here you’d have to swap out the 50A breaker for a 40 since the wire couldn’t handle the 50A. Just wanted to make sure you knew that. Cheers!
@Create208
@Create208 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! Wire size depends on a few factors, if you are using a romex or cable you would size off the 60 degree chart but because I’m using THHN wiring it’s rated for the 75 or 90 degree chart. 75 degree chart for #8 is rated for 50a and 90 degree chart is rated for 55a. But that’s why the premade cable had to be #6 wiring. because the 60 degree chart. Hope that makes sense!
@LandonLavore
@LandonLavore 5 ай бұрын
Per NEC your are not to exceed 80% of the load. That would fail inspection with 8AWG. Just be careful doing DIY.
@Create208
@Create208 5 ай бұрын
Code reference?
@jwhite26
@jwhite26 4 ай бұрын
He knew
@tomryan4648
@tomryan4648 Ай бұрын
Great video, well explained
@robertclemmons7281
@robertclemmons7281 28 күн бұрын
Great video by the way
@oscarpuente2029
@oscarpuente2029 2 ай бұрын
got the generator, now I need the wire up kit.
@Howard892
@Howard892 Ай бұрын
Will that setup run the house AC unit as well?
@marklloyd4153
@marklloyd4153 3 ай бұрын
I saw a short video on this generator not put out the right amount of power damaging stuff in the home . No problems on your end ? I’m thinking he was trying to sell a voltage reader
@robertduncan2742
@robertduncan2742 Ай бұрын
Would this unit run a smaller home with furnace, refrigerator, freezers, ac and accessories to dryer
@lishajoyh8154
@lishajoyh8154 4 ай бұрын
Like a damn boss bro great video!
@jimmybrad156
@jimmybrad156 6 ай бұрын
Nice view @ 12:00
@cashmoreoctober1973
@cashmoreoctober1973 Ай бұрын
Thanks i have the same generator but dont know how to setup my home. I have a fuse panel so im not sure how to connect it because it isn’t a breaker panel. I know i need to pull the main out when using a generator but can i use a fuse instead of a breaker to feed my generator into the home?
@robertclemmons7281
@robertclemmons7281 28 күн бұрын
I have the same generator you do. How can I get a list of items that you used for your project. I want to do the same thing. Thanks.
@codyschwoch5451
@codyschwoch5451 Ай бұрын
And if you use propane, you should always slowly open your propane tanks just opening them full blast like he did could potentially run the propane control bladder system
@SuperBiz24
@SuperBiz24 5 ай бұрын
Can see your light surging in shop.. what’s thd on this unit.. I’m looking to do same and had this one in mind or the 9500 inverter
@projectswithjw
@projectswithjw 4 ай бұрын
23%
@benchoflemons398
@benchoflemons398 4 ай бұрын
Probably terrible. No inverter
@RonaldBattagliaJr
@RonaldBattagliaJr 7 ай бұрын
What 50amp cable did you purchase?
@thm3525
@thm3525 5 ай бұрын
Great video.
@Defianthuman
@Defianthuman 3 ай бұрын
I'm sure it charges it on its own battery charging but I have also seen people who plugged the trickle charger into one of the 120v outlets, and had additional charging while running seems unnecessary.
@paulvaso8524
@paulvaso8524 3 күн бұрын
8:24 u can see the light in the back normal, and at 10:55 we can see it flashing. That means the energy quality must be pretty bad
@juansifuentes3917
@juansifuentes3917 4 ай бұрын
Bit of advice, change that #8 wire and replace it with a #6 wire.
@randydobson8148
@randydobson8148 5 ай бұрын
Great video...I am going to do this very soon. One question. When you say the entire house, does that include the central AC? Thanks
@Create208
@Create208 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! Yes it does.
@lapprentice
@lapprentice 4 ай бұрын
Make sure you install the Easy Start to your AC to ensure you can run AC with any portable generator.
@randydobson8148
@randydobson8148 4 ай бұрын
@@lapprentice Thanks for that information. I will call my AC company and see what they say.
@richardliandro2789
@richardliandro2789 4 ай бұрын
Can it power 3.5 ton ac unit also
@balexan530
@balexan530 6 ай бұрын
You need to change your wires to 6 gauge if you want to use the 50 amp breaker. Number 8 is rated for 40 amps and number 6 is rated for 55 amps. Currently you will burn up your wire before you trip your breaker.
@Nicholas2011ist
@Nicholas2011ist 5 ай бұрын
The chances of the generator putting out more than 9600 watts continuously (40 amps at 240V) is pretty low. There's circuit diversity factors that can be taken into account. Ampacity is also dependant of the temperature rating of the insulation and the length of the run.
@balexan530
@balexan530 5 ай бұрын
@@Nicholas2011ist breakers are sized to protect the wire. It would never pass inspection. It's your building.
@Create208
@Create208 5 ай бұрын
Unless I’m missing something, #8 THHN on the 75 degree chart is rated for 50a.
@asgard168
@asgard168 8 ай бұрын
How does one know if power from the main grid is back?
@Create208
@Create208 8 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure the meter readout would only be on if the power was on. So if that readout was visible the power should be back on.
@PartneredAdmin
@PartneredAdmin 4 ай бұрын
Who does the install? Can you please recommend someone in Houston area?
@NHWilderness
@NHWilderness 7 ай бұрын
I’m in ahh of the landscape,not a neighbor in sight
@jkidd2007
@jkidd2007 8 ай бұрын
I'm new here and I don't see a link to "the web site" for a list of parts.
@Create208
@Create208 8 ай бұрын
Sorry I forgot to add it to the description. I got all of my parts from www.geninterlock.com
@postscript123
@postscript123 4 ай бұрын
What's the "trickle charge". Does that mean you keep it plugged in somewhere at all times for some type of need of the generator?
@javierc2724
@javierc2724 4 ай бұрын
Keeps the batter charged for the electric start
@NeoB-Lac
@NeoB-Lac 3 ай бұрын
The sinewave is very dirty on that generator, look at the light at 8:24 compared to 10:54 you need an inverter generator
@CadeSubscriptionAccount
@CadeSubscriptionAccount 3 ай бұрын
That has less to do with THD and him trying to draw more than it can supply.
@Turbo_Todd
@Turbo_Todd 2 ай бұрын
Only need sine wave for sensitive electronics, but you can buy inexpensiveline filters and protect everything. Way more affordable. That said, I've been using noisy generators for years and never had a problem.
@yuriys3164
@yuriys3164 Ай бұрын
Can you link what some of the filters are? This is a great idea, have not heard of this option before
@TonyStewart-wl8dv
@TonyStewart-wl8dv 5 ай бұрын
So if you can run 8 hours on five gallons to run 24 hours at 3 dollars per gallon that’s 45 dollars a day to be smart about this having a battery backup would help but yes the battery are not cheap. Good video guy.
@ACommenterOnYouTube
@ACommenterOnYouTube 2 ай бұрын
12k running watts for $1100 ...... How dirty is that power after 50% capacity ??
@potlickerhound7262
@potlickerhound7262 8 ай бұрын
hows my boy Jet a doing?
@Create208
@Create208 8 ай бұрын
Unfortunately Jet passed away last year.. But you can see our dogs Mesa and Roxi in this video!
@rab125
@rab125 4 ай бұрын
What is the dimensions of the box-- the generator comes in. Wanting to know if I need to rent a truck or my van can work.
@juliocs5483
@juliocs5483 3 ай бұрын
A lot of businesses ship for free…I got a generator from HD and they shipped. Cus yes they are heavy.
@postscript123
@postscript123 5 ай бұрын
So it was on sale at Harbor Freight?
@Create208
@Create208 5 ай бұрын
Yes
@josenavarro-ue7zu
@josenavarro-ue7zu 5 ай бұрын
dude, you need #6 for a 50 amp not #8. under size wire will heat up and catch fire before the breaker trips under the rite conditions!!!!
@Create208
@Create208 5 ай бұрын
Code reference? #8 THHN on 75 chart is 50a?
@DougP-q4d
@DougP-q4d 4 ай бұрын
He is probably thinking about NM not THHN but you aren’t supposed to exceed 80% of the rating for safety so #8 THHN would be 40amp continuous safe but I’d guess you’re fine either way.
@sn0isle
@sn0isle 3 ай бұрын
The generator is only capable of 41 amps at max load with gasoline. On propane is 9100watts 9100 divided by 240 volts equals 37.9 amps.
@realamericanz4641
@realamericanz4641 2 ай бұрын
I’d imagine in real life if he’s running absolutely everything and taching out that generator. He could walk over and grab that extension cord, Feeling of it. I’d be shocked if it was ever hot or even warm to the touch. I’ve been running set ups just like his for years myself.
@OLSMOKY
@OLSMOKY Ай бұрын
Super helpful to former city-folks like me! 😂
@gilt9377
@gilt9377 4 ай бұрын
Dumb question..The output plug on the generator says 42 amp max...why do you say it has a 50?
@projectswithjw
@projectswithjw 3 ай бұрын
The outlet is a 14-50R. It is a 50 amp receptacle whether or not the generator can put out 50 amps.
@kaidenstowell8487
@kaidenstowell8487 8 ай бұрын
I sent you an email about an emergency hand pump I own a company that build easy to use and install emergency hand pumps for wells
@davidlemay4761
@davidlemay4761 7 ай бұрын
Remember to buy spark plugs for your generator.😅
@JacobBitner
@JacobBitner 4 ай бұрын
Ha, I'm in Houston now and it's day 8 with no power. 10w30 oil is hard to find, spark plugs are scarce and anything electrical related to generators are sold out so everyone stock up on these extra parts. Filters, plugs, oil, and definitely gas
@CadeSubscriptionAccount
@CadeSubscriptionAccount 3 ай бұрын
Don't run 10w30. Run 0w40 or 5w40 full synthetic. They hold up much better. Even still, I drain and fill every 48 hours of constant run time.
@jonkenny593
@jonkenny593 6 ай бұрын
What is the winding made of?
@michaelhardy195
@michaelhardy195 3 ай бұрын
Good idea Eco flow delta pro 3 system check online and emergency backup power whole home
@theMister07
@theMister07 Ай бұрын
I’m considering the Ecoflow DPU
@brianharris7029
@brianharris7029 Ай бұрын
I don't know why predator generators don't automatically charge the battery, annoys me that you need a seperate cable to charge the battery
@DieselGeneratorfromALAD
@DieselGeneratorfromALAD 5 ай бұрын
any needs of generator power range 1kw-2500kw , feel free to let me know.
@jmd165
@jmd165 Ай бұрын
#6 wire is for 50 amps. #8 is for 30 amps he keeps saying #8 wire but it looks like #6
@sinner-saint361
@sinner-saint361 4 ай бұрын
67 bucks for that little piece of sheet metal? Stupid expensive
@Tylers24
@Tylers24 6 ай бұрын
Skipping through parts on the video. No sub. Show the entire process
@XxAtomic646xX
@XxAtomic646xX 7 ай бұрын
how is the thd on this? id be worried about powering tvs and shit on something with higher than 5% thd
@CadeSubscriptionAccount
@CadeSubscriptionAccount 3 ай бұрын
TVs arent really a concern anymore. Stoves, fridge, AC... That's what Im worried about.
@brianharris7029
@brianharris7029 Ай бұрын
23%
@marklloyd4153
@marklloyd4153 3 ай бұрын
I saw a short video on this generator not put out the right amount of power damaging stuff in the home . No problems on your end ? I’m thinking he was trying to sell a voltage reader
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