Neverwinter | What You NEED to Know About CRAFTING for New Players Mod 21

[@Aragon-]

The higher the level your Workshop the more Artisans you can get and the more likely you'll get a higher quality applicate. At this current state Professions are only really good for crafting Gold, Armor and Jewel Kits, and the Masterwork Stronghold Weapons! Got a new mic, still messing around with the software. Didn't get the best result, sorry for the mouse clicks. Many Thanks to my channel members for the support :)

[@crunchevo8974]

Also the flasks of potency +1 are worthwhile to craft

[@fishes002]

Typo i thnk u meant players

[@kittywampusdrums4963]

Making MC stronghold decor is also worth it if you can wait for someone to buy it.

[@scubaman2003]

You didnt tell us how to get workshop 3. The quest is "hidden" or so it seems. So no idea what progress it takes to hit workship 3 and 4. Workshop 2 was obtained by reaching lvl 5 in a profession and then doing a delivery quest for 3x +1 items

[@Aragon-]

You need to follow the quest, create items and hand them in etc and you'll be able to level up

[@adrianandadi7350]

Thank you. I love the workshop tutorials. 1) Use your daily workshop morale 2) crafting in workshop uses less morale than crafting outside it. Although, a workshop sending stone unlocked through quest chain makes collecting and crafting easier outside of workshop. 3) Miracle Workers are good artisan. 3) for gold farming, find cheap ingredients to make make nice priced items (quartz rings, Hartshorn rings, Leather Halfboots, Hard leather belt are ones I like to craft). 4) when levelling profession I found it easy to focus on crafting, crafting ingredients (silk thread, Ingots, lumber). 5) if levelling up workshop, Gold needles or myrrh are nice commission items . 6) Master work (MW) 1 is easy with a level 20 artisan and a level 20 tool and +1 items are fairly frequent. But, beyond MW rank 1 there is a lot of grind. 7) have fun. enjoy.

[@noshamespeakyourmind5495]

Alchemy is fun, because you can always consume what you craft and you craft them just using adventure materials, you can craft heal potions buff potions and even bomb-like potions that can deal direct damage or stun enemies and things like that, compared to gear professions which you can either wear once in a life time on each toon or sell it in the auction house mostly for way less than it costs to craft.

[@dougcarroll9973]

Crafting and leveling your craftsmen and artisans was so much easier when you had access to the Neverwinter Portal on your tablet or phone when the game first came out. You could level your henchmen by doing adventures and you could do all kind of things while not at your computer/console. I remember playing the game at home and leveling my pets and craftsmen by doing quests on the Neverwinter Portal. However, people abused the system and were botting the portal so they had to shut it down.

[@fishes002]

Great vid. I have 10 toons all farming gold. Once they reach 600 gold each, i gather it all up and sell stacks of 100 for around 45k each. I will end up making around 2 mill diamonds but it takes around a week and some change to get 600 gold on all of them. Slow grind but worth it

[@fishes002]

@Ferny 1337 yea i sell them 100 at a time for 40k

[@jamesdouyon4526]

You sell gold bars in the AH or the vendors?

[@fishes002]

@@jamesdouyon4526 you get the bars from the vendor after selling him the stuff u crafted for cheap like aargon explained. Once you get the bars you can sell on ah. But people typically take like 100 bars at a time so it takes a while. I do this on 10 characters and wait over a week.

[@jackschitt7783]

Things I noticed I'd like to add to your info: - We can craft the tools for each profession. Blacksmithing crafts most of the tools, Jewel Crafting makes needles for Tailoring, Artificing crafts it's own tools. With luck an artisan can craft items 3 levels higher than the profession level (50/50 chance). - If the workshop stays busy constantly crafting something and gathering something applications continue to come in until we've had all the artisans available in the game apply to work for us. If we don't have the workshop doing anything applications will be less frequent. Applicants are as frequent as the workshop is busy. - Every item level has something cheap to make that profits copper by selling it to a common vendor. This makes grinding the workshop and leveling up the professions and gatherers for new players well worth it. We can make a minimum of 10 gold crafting and selling level 1 items that cost 5 morale and sell them to a vendor for profit. It's a quick, easy, free way to collect copper, silver and gold than questing and adventuring or campaigning. On average it costs around 3 gold to have the workshop running all day each day. It works out to be a profitable. Keeping gold keeps the workshop running. - I agree it isn't a great way to farm Astral Diamonds crafting items and selling them on the auction. Some items do sell on the auction but they're hit or miss and not all of them sell quickly and almost nothing we craft sells for a whole lot of AD quickly unless we spam a pile of 99 bear leather (for example) and sell it for a low price that really isn't worth all the time it took to craft all of them; 100k. I, too, thought and was hoping I could create an income crafting and auctioning but it just doesn't work out to be profitable enough to be worth it. - The info on nw4noobs [dot] com is good info for a starting point but it does not mention or cover workshop or trading credits and leveling up the workshop past level 3. When the workshop gets to level 3 the credit items change to higher level profession items and the list on nw4noobs is no longer relevant, the great info shared on that site for professions doesn't cover the info needed to get the workshop to level 4. - At level 3 we can have 22 artisans. We can never have more than 3 crafting tasks and 3 gathering tasks. We're limited to 6 tasks total the whole time. What I found that works best for me is to spam the same item for a whole day from the day reset in the game until around 8 hours before the day reset. At 8 hours before the day reset in the game I switch up what my artisans are crafting, the profession I'm leveling or making a credit item with, and keeping my adventurers gathering stock a day ahead of what I plan to craft. Having a strategy and plan levels the workshop and professions and artisans much quicker than doing whatever whenever. Plan and spam. - My suggestion is first starting with Leather working and level it and Jewel Crafting up to 14, then level Blacksmithing to 14, then wood working, then alchemy. Alchemy is the hardest and the items for alchemy have the lowest sales, credit, and profit margins so in my opinion leveling Alchemy up first is shooting yourself in the foot - it's going to take forever starting with Alchemy getting anywhere with the workshop. Start with Leather, Jewel Crafting, or Blacksmithing. Articifing will come in need around level 11 when you level up blacksmithing to 11 because a lot of the items blacksmithing requires is wood based or textile based ingredients (wood working or tailor profession crafted items).

[@Aragon-]

Thank you for providing more details and helping out :D

[@jackschitt7783]

@@Aragon- Glad to share what I've learned and what has worked for me. Hope it helps and works for someone else!

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

Ranking professions costs a LOT of gold. There are always crafts that have something that makes a profit in gold. I usually use the Potions of Healing from Alchemy. My Alts generate the gold for my mains while I sleep. With Jewelcraftng, there are artisans with -75% Commission fee, so one of my semi-Mains makes those kits and jewels during Double Refining, as they cost half the Morale and only 31,250 AD. Some of them have double results or negate the Commission or Morale cost. Rank 3 - make Beeswax Rank 4 - make Myrrh or buy Black Ink from the Retainer. New players will not have old Assets to trade for Asset Exchange Crdits to buy Materials Exchange credits, but NEVER spend AD. {:-:-:}

[@markknape4343]

Masterwork level one is a good idea to attain; can then turn your guild marks into astral diamonds by purchasing items from the stronghold masterwork vendors

[@ryans756]

As an alternative to the combat grind, crafting can be enjoyable and quite relaxing. It can also be nice to get a player come up to you and say "Could you craft this for me? Here are the ingredients." It's like "Yeah, yeah buddy I can do that for you" :D But you REALLLLLY need to enjoy crafting. If not, I wouldn't even bother, other than as a way of making gold (do it on all your toons, craft those leather visors! Ker'chingggg!).

[@shawnpeal1209]

Oddly enough, The Thing No One Mentions, because it's a granted .... is to NEVER even bother to attempt going after Master Crafting until you have a Mythic Forgehammer on the character you wish to take to Master Crafting. I don't even know what it would be like now to lvl up another master crafter. I have 5 or 6 with all trades maxed, but only 1 master crafter (everything maxed in Tradeskills) And that was expensive back then! Probably like well over 200mil AD (or more, prolly more). And yeah, I KNOW I'll never recuperate that investment back ... got my 1 and done. So, I'll stop by the Workshop when I think about it or need to make something for some alt ... but otherwise, I usually just don't craft anymore.

[@ethanschwartz9477]

Cobalt tools are very cheap and almost equal to forgehammer. I do use the forgehammer, but it is a slight difference. And you can level up a craft to top level for like 10 mil, less if you are smart about it.

[@shawnpeal1209]

@@ethanschwartz9477 Yes, the times have changed .... My max MC cost just well over (actually, I forget but well north of 200 mil ... because was progressing it as new came out ... aka, well before workshop .. pre-Chult, etc)). And yeah, I can craft all the new tools ... but 'almost equal' vs. forgehammer .... that's still 'almost equal' for every craft instead of 'best' for every craft. And it's one tool instead of many. Sure, I craft tools for the alts, but doubt I'll take another to max MC .. even with a cpl FH in bank.

[@janlloyd6138]

Most people I know only leveled up one player. I have been happy at level three. Hint if you want the crafted potion of power with failure get a cobalt alembric-or make it. It is so worth it for alchemy. The tools you use and the amount of the first stats of your artisan makes all the difference,

[@shawnpeal1209]

@@janlloyd6138 Actually, it appears best to either buy an unbound green forge hammer, and upgrade that to mythic, use shared bank to summon the tool on each char. And then the 'either' is wait for a better tool.

[@EloyCanto]

Craft, this is an aspect of the game that has never caught my attention, even pvp i tried back when i was a rookie, and pvp was more mainstream, but crafting, heck i hate having to deal with the mission when i get a new char, from time to time i tought about triying, i have tons of materials and stuff for craft, but i found it so boring, that i justleave it, i heard the devs where going to make it easier or more understandble, but i see it just like when they introduce it, boring, and since i'm more the explorer adventurer kind of player, the craft system is boring for me.

[@kittywampusdrums4963]

Can someone explain what Im supposed to do for MC5? I stopped because all it says I get are chultan credit for more maps but apparently there's 2 more MC levels?!

[@Aragon-]

I'm not sure sorry

[@jamiefors5062]

I can’t remember offhand and not sure what you’re asking, check out Rainers old videos, he covers everything in this game

[@kittywampusdrums4963]

@@jamiefors5062 It doesnt matter now they completely reworked MCs.

[@alyours2889]

Love what you do...but as far as crafting goes: ZZZZZZZZZZ!

[@jamiefors5062]

I have toons making Hartshorn rings, they cost 79 bronze to make and you sell for 34 silver, it uses 5 morale and you can make a ton of gold this way

[@yawgmoth3669]

rn't copper rings the cheapest to make? well if u have time to get the materials. on pc u need 1 copper bar (3copper ore) and the refined stone (2x lvl 1 stone) also cheap commission. only downside is the low xp gain from gathering and crafting i guess

[@kloper5416]

I find miracle worker 20 or 25% matters more than commission fee reduction for making gold. The reduction may save you 1 silver per item(80 silver if you use the 5morale x80 items), but the miracle % gives yo 34 silver with every extra item and that makes 80x 34 silver + some 20x 34 silver extra. Leather Vest is more expensive to craft than leather visor, but is great for levelling while making gold at lower skill level. The cost reduction really matters with crafting the higher level items, that cost AD to make

[@shadowblade5656]

I'm not certain, I haven't properly done the math on them, but I think leatherwork's leather visor might be the best for gold profits. It's made with just two leather, which is 110 copper total, plus the lowest commission cost. Your halfboots for example are an extra 14 copper because of that cotton boll, plus an extra silver in commission cost. And having one item to worry about buying en masse makes it simple to remember. A lot of the other professions have crafts that need multiple different items, and some higher-cost items, like armorwork bronze bracers need an ingot and a plate, which is 285 copper, jewelcraft's copper ring is 170 copper. Alchemy seems to be the worst profit ratio because while the potions make 12, they don't sell for the same ~34 silver total. AFAIK, don't ever bother trying to make higher-level items to sell for gold because pretty much everything aside from alchemy sells for the same ~34 silver. Also, that one jewelcrafter is phenomenal, Haie Xilomne. -75% commission cost and +75% crafting speed is awesome, I've got him on all of my characters even if they're not even doing jewelcrafting yet lol. I don't know how his proficiency and focus stack up at the higher end yet, but it's hard to beat that cost reduction AND speed boost together.

[@shadowblade5656]

I've only been playing again since a little after Mod 21 went live, and I've been able to get one new-to-crafting character's jewelcraft up to 19 already without too much effort, just focusing on that one profession each day. I've been doing the crafting just to do it, really, and I've been curious if I should bother going into the masterwork stuff, so this video's nice for me to see. Thanks!

[@Aragon-]

Masterworking is far to expensive to bother with

[@ryans756]

@@Aragon- TLDR: If you really really enjoy the act of crafting, Masterwork is worth it. But... It's too expensive (and oh boy, time consuming) to bother with IF you're looking to make huge profits anytime in the near future. However, if you just enjoy crafting, say, as opposed to combat (and relying on pug teams to know wtf they're doing :D) then it's quite enjoyable. I get sick of the combat grind sometimes and just go through all my characters, doing a bit of crafting. It's quite relaxing :)

[@jamiefors5062]

There’s an artisan that makes Hartshorn rings for 79 bronze, you sell them for 34 silver, I have 10 toons making these 24/7 and buy these with my morale on every toon everyday, currently sitting on over 75k of gold

[@shekelmeister]

Premium ones aren't really needed unles you get into MW. A lot of common ones still give -75% cost or more than +50% speed which is really good for everyday crafting. But yeah its only profitable when you are around lvl20.

[@Stormmover]

Hi, how do you get A box for Knox quest?

[@Stormmover]

How do you get quest box for a knox? I hqve leatherworking lvl 20 and level 2 workshop

[@Aragon-]

Should only need level 11. Check your quests

[@stash48]

Also what do you think the devs could do to revive pvp from their side you think it’s a incentive thing like maybe if they offered astral diamond or something you think that could revive it?

[@althegamer6606]

They just dont care

[@sewercotr3243]

I wish all this was available 5 6 years ago now coming back oh my cant be a lifer

[@punisher9899]

The thing is , people need to understand that the crafting is a sideshow, its not something you can start and rush up to get the end tier craftables. The game is not a crafting game. So its just a filler really. It has its pros and cons, but its not the games focus. If you enjoy it, score. If not, well its not mandatory to play the game. That aside, thanks for the informative video.

[@user-eh4jv6xw4l]

They need to use a system like Oblivion. Not as boring or grueling. With various areas on the maps and not just in one spot.

[@Aragon-]

agreed

[@jonnyb70]

if I were you I'd mention at the beginning that in order to get to the masterwork levels you're going to not only get your artisans to level 20 but your guild hall as well. That's a slog and a half.

[@breteboy1968]

Im a mastercrafter 5 on all atm. And work shop maxed so looking forward to changes. :)

[@sumerbc7409]

You didn't even tell us how to start the shop level up for the new player. What do we have to do the first time on level 1 to level up the shop? Is it time based? Do we need to level one craft up some to progress the profession quest line? Title says it's for the new player but it's not.

[@Omar_ToxicBanana1701]

I think the most fun game is crafting game only if you care the role play part of the game instead of the action, in fact I sometimes think of it as "I am a worker who can fight" (I can go out there and kill things but I'm just a craftsman and work shop is my main function), the problem with this mindset is that crafting helps you get gear (which you need to kill things with ), so there is a missing ring, [Killing things getting ad and looting crafting matts etc-->use the loot to craft gear-->use the gear to kill things] lol so why did you need to kill things in the first place, and so why did you need to craft gear if you didn't need to go kill things.

[@keerosah9970]

I have epic artisans with 200% commission multiplier... should I dismiss them regardless of rarity? =/ I'm also having a lot of trouble with this Focus feature... and to make supplements and high quality tools to boost it, I need Focus... lmao. I'd rather not have to resort to buying from AH.

[@Aragon-]

Yeah, you want ideally 0% to -75% commission, as for focus, that's usually on what tool your using, you have the iron ones? Otherwise the forgehammer is good, but expensive, I'm sure there are some tools elsewhere

[@breteboy1968]

Any idea on reagents needed for new mw weapon set and will obsidian still be valuable ty mate

[@michaelhoward3707]

This didn't work. I have my armorsmithing at level 20, went to the artisan in my stronghold, and only had the chultan masterwork available. The regular masterwork 1 2 and 3 are not there...wasted 500k Astral diamond

[@Aragon-]

It is still bugged, should be unlocked at some point

[@batmight27anderson60]

Have you tried to compare the same moving nice weapons to the lionheart or the celestial just curious because they do 10% damage among other things the only thing I don't like the fact that the item level is the same as Mirage weapons

[@jamiefors5062]

If you mean mastercraft then yes, they are bis BUT if you run a dungeon all 5 of you have to have the mastercraft weapons to get the 10% as each set gives you 2% each (5x2=10)

[@AsPaRrOn]

Love the typo in the title, it's true, we are payers, not players

[@Aragon-]

Oops, lol xD

[@ethanschwartz9477]

Mastercrafting is incredibly profitable on xbox. I keep making extra MC shops just to pump out tier 1 mats. More shops keep paying for themselves, even at tier 1. I make huge profits and dont even grind the mats, I buy them off AH. Grinding out your own maps is even more money. MC is where the money is, it was last year that it was dead.

[@ethanschwartz9477]

As I leveled every profession to Mc 5, I sold crafted supplies along the way, offsetting the costs and even profiting on the way up. If you are careful and dedicated, it is lucrative profits if you dont rush the process. Ppl are buying mats to rank up like crazy, so you can be any level of MC and profit

[@shamanwise777]

I liked to collect materials, brew potions and make jewelry in WOW, but in NW, it's just boring.

[@Aragon-]

Yeah

[@Toperncruz]

Does your workshop needs to be lvl4 to start mastercrafting?

[@Aragon-]

no, it doesn't

[@Toperncruz]

@@Aragon- thank you

[@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095]

Excellent! Both my Bards got to rank 10 in Alchemy, and I was wondering when we get a _A Box for Knox_ and remote crafting. {:-:-:} Edit: Oh, shame you didn't talk about the Professions quest line.

[@darrellpugh6689]

yes Professions Quest Line....

[@stash48]

Aragon do you see the bigger picture of what the game seems to be moving towards, are you noticing a change? IMO it seems like the game is moving towards a different type of format 1st the stat change then the level drop I can see a very big gear change in the future with gear being evened out ilvl wise but having a lot of different effect to make all content more relevant

[@xirivoz4139]

Aragon for some reason I am stuck in 25k total item level with my fighter (lvl 20) can you help me

[@joshua7913]

Upgrade companion and mount. You need 10 of each. That should tied you to 35-42k

[@Aragon-]

had to advice sorry, just try to get the highest available gear to you, and then ork on getting more companions,

[@ryans756]

@@Aragon- I've got some more bad news for him. Fighters are the worst DPS class in Neverwinter. Ouch. And I speak as someone whose first character was a fighter, and that character is still my main, but she's useless. Since the new adventure system came out, I've run Dwarven King, Maze Engine and A.I. many times on various toons - the only ones who struggle AT ALL are my fighters. They're also slow as hell at killing mobs, even with their two AOE encounters (which are decent but have long cooldowns). Compare that to the rogue, who insta-kills any mob, and the bard/barbarian/ranger/cleric (even Paladin!) who ALMOST insta-kill any mob (I don't use wizards or warlocks because I've never been able to make them powerful, despite great efforts), the fighter is slow and weak, and isn't even that tough either. Fighters, perhaps deliberately, are average in every regard, which is sad because before, when they were known as Guardian Fighters, before devs took their brash strike away and gave it to GWFs, they were awesome :( (They are, however, easily the fastest moving class! So that's something, I guess :D) My advice? Delete your fighter and make a barbarian, a bard, or indeed a rogue. If you're going to pour your effort into something, let it be something worthwhile.

[@ryans756]

But yeah, on a more helpful note, getting your first mythic mount and mythic companion will boost you right up, plus being in a level 20 guild is 3000 item level thanks to the guild boons. Apart from that, better gear, high IL artifacts like the three cragmire artifacts (lantern, catalogue and waters) and upgrading mount insignias to epic makes a difference, but gets super expensive to get them to legendary and mythic, but eventually, sure, do that. However, everything else I just mentioned is worth it, plus getting armour/etc enhancements on your gear too (but only when you have gear WORTH putting them on - before that, it's a waste). Oh and your second mythic mount and companion will NOT make as huge a difference as the first did, so one of each, then steadily level up everything as you go - as you HAVE FUN playing the game :)

[@joshua7913]

a bard is the current meta, but a rogue is so much easier to speed through things. I use my rogue as my main to farm for stuff, whatever I need on my cleric gets farmed by my rogue (bare character bound stuff). Although hold off deleting any character. Use the second slot. Fighter tank is still a tank (although paladins are better imo). Run as much rtq as you can and get at least 40 boons. That should make you passable for radq with 35k it lvl, remember, passable. If you have tarmalune bars spend them on the trade bar discount coming up soon. Alternatively, start crafting gold to use during the creation of Gond event. Run your insu and bel. Get watcher weapons or blessed. Farm each 5 in dread ring or mop4 in avenus. The easiest ofc is just spend money. Working 1 hour in real life gives you 10 usd which translate to 1 month vip

[@6ftlion]

Returning player here. Is crafting still useless other then gold?

[@Aragon-]

you can make potions and jewels and kits

[@NerdTrigger]

Is this still viable for the current mod?

[@Aragon-]

yup yup

[@Vile-Flesh]

It was so much nicer when it was only 14 copper to remove enchantments from either weapon or neck piece/belt. I'm having to worry about blowing through more gold when I share the one and only rank 14 weapon enchantment among my pitiful characters. U.U

[@fogydew54]

Got to agree to me crafting is the most disappointing thing I've done in this game. I would not start if I knew how bad it is . take notice of this what Aragon says he is spot on. I am maxed out on crafting and it is a real disappointment to me.

[@yawgmoth3669]

i think it s a great source of income for newer players, when u only get 9 silver for a quest but getting 34+s for a single crafted item...there s also the ah, some ppl r too lazy to farm so researching what sells would result in some decent dia income i guess. havent dont this yet since i just started. what i find disappointing is the space in the box. 12 slots r full so fast in early stages when some materials/ items have a basic 10min duration and u start with 2 adventurers and 2 crafters running all of them will fill it up in less than 30min since most adventures have increased speed making it 6min40s or something for one run-.-

[@smokingone]

I decided I would get into my professions the other day....saw I could make Major Critical Strike kits....after failing 4-5 I noticed the guy was getting me for 160,000 AD per attempt....the kits only sell for 35k.....crafting seems like such a waste of time and resources :|

[@Oni-Ryu8]

Cheers matey

[@JoeGameVideos]

i just hated the new crafting system cant work it out .. sadly enough

[@taorroarcano7626]

Is proffesion worth? In the past yes Now no In the future maybe

[@eudesgeoffroy8416]

1:23 So it's a vid for only the VIP players, uh? Red thumb.

[@Aragon-]

What does those tools have with VIP?

[@Aragon-]

Crafting has nothing to do with VIP

[@gustavo2157]

well actually MC weapons are a requirement now for VoS hc runs... hard to get invited without them, at least in ps4

[@Fuming-Jay]

Wait wait wait pc can sell from overflow bags not cool console cannot sell from overflow bags and we have to empty over flow bags if you wanna buy anything

[@Aragon-]

to the vendor, yes