NEW $10,000 StarCraft 2 Grand Finals!

[@Probc-or9yu]

Clem is my favorite protoss player and being a Terran player, if clem wins I still sees this as a Terran win.

[@benspooner8815]

That’s funny! 😂

[@Habib_Osman]

Colossus is the single coolest SC2 unit.

[@clevelandgeorge8226]

I play zergs and I say stalkers are the coolest unit

[@Aminmotors]

The only reason there is a Protoss in the grand finals is because Clem was playing with Terran up until that point. Still cool to see though.

[@Kunsho1]

Clem played group stage as terran, all of the playoffs as terran, picked protoss first time in the finals and lost... Surely that doesn't count for protoss getting into finals

[@ixioxp119]

yep, and the game where he lost just show how easy it is to lose at protos.

[@screes620]

Clem secretly got ghosts nerfed because he was planning on switching to Protoss the whole time. When are we getting a Clem VS Maxpax game with Clem as Protoss and Maxpax as Terran?

[@mihairo83]

Thank you Lowko! You said it. It's not a skill issue. Protoss can just die in the early game to a marine tank push. And we don't even get to Ghost stage. All the 5 matches ended very quickly. What I don't like is that all the matchups are about the Terran bullying the opponent. We saw it in Terran Clem vs. Zerg Serral and now in Terran GuMiho vs. Protoss Clem. Terran is OverPowered in the early game and that can dictate the pace of the game. The opponent must struggle to come from behind. The Bioball with Stim, Combat Shield and +1 is just absolutely devastating in the early game. 8 marines and a Medivac can kill an entire base. With multitasking you can get 24 marines into 3 Medivacs and attack 3 places at a time. Their DPS can be just wild with stim and A-move. Maybe I am bias, but I don't intend to be. What I would like to see different scenarios from time to time. Not just the Terran bullying the opponent.

[@LaCroix05]

I really want to see my general Hamster match especially in the early game vs Terran after removing batcharge. He is so positive about that spesific changes, that I really want to see how he is doing in tourney now.

[@paulmichaud4526]

3 Full medivacs is incredibly difficult to pull off efficiently, even for pro players. Terran is strong in the early game, but Protoss has a huge power spike in the late game. Maybe it needs balancing, but Overpowered is too strong of a word. Protoss needs buff for their core units more than anything

[@Barbaari111]

@@paulmichaud4526 Too powerful, as in overpowered

[@jkkim6928]

Bruh you can spew logic all you want, but terran whiners won’t stop terrorizing the balance council and colonizing this dead game 😂

[@hia5235]

@@paulmichaud4526 Thats nice But Zerg and Protoss have no equivelent and thats really the issue here Terran has options no other race has

[@CHIQUIZO]

31:59 that Colossus flanking was absolute cinema , worth of an epic edit , amazing series , thanks for casting them Lowko!!! love your energy as always :D

[@hughjass5494]

Thank you for the cast Lowko. I feel like you gave away the outcome by pontificating about Clem's struggles/shortcomings without devoting equal analysis to Gumi's weaknesses.

[@mv3507]

Watching Clem play PvT feels so natural, I think he should do this every time he feels he has an opponent with a strong TvT matchup

[@Wright1331]

Best player in the world trying to prove Terran isn't OP, HE FAILED!

[@danyalraza9707]

?? what? This man is playing his off-race and still managed to almost win lol

[@bradysampson1201]

Lowko is very underrated with his KZbin videos. You deserve a lot more likes and views!

[@rockyalters1242]

Amy Gidalla is my favourite map in the pool currently, agreed. Fantastic cast and video as always, Mr. Lowko.

[@marinauder]

Clem has been playing a lot with Blinks in Battle Aces and decided "don't mind if I do" when he returned to sc2

[@Ge_n_Ge]

Toss lost again need buffs

[@Mikivericks]

Thanks for the video, Lowko. New Patch? Big Winnings? You got to love it! ❤

[@Mglunafh]

15:27 "how do you cope with #1 terran on the planet switching to protoss because he is not feeling confident in his TvT?"

[@lincolnreinert1205]

Turns out you cant MMM bio ball to victory on tvt, Clem would rather switch races than build a raven

[@aggrospud7698]

This is the biggest true true. ​@@lincolnreinert1205

[@Dndnx20]

Clem already lost to gumiho in the TvsT match. That's why he chose protoss. I think he chose the best move to win the final.

[@alexkollnm]

I planned to join with my son, but the entry was 16+

[@wernerviehhauser94]

i'm still working on getting mine to play less coop and arcade but more ladder....

[@alexkollnm]

@@wernerviehhauser94 they have been playing since they are 8 or 9. We started with 3on3 vs. Computer, Campaign, and then Ladder ;) They learned good English listening from Lowko and Harstem.

[@hristiansarmov8118]

@@wernerviehhauser94 Don't do that to your son dude wtf

[@wernerviehhauser94]

@@hristiansarmov8118 he's good. But like all teenagers, anything resembling effort has to be avoided. If he can spend an afternoon playing coop (without the need for a second player) or trying to match GiantGrantGames achievements, there should be room for an hour of ladder games.

[@wernerviehhauser94]

@@hristiansarmov8118 he's good. but, as common for his age, he has zero affinity for "effort". I think if he can play coop mission basically alone or try deathless runs in the campaigns for an entire afternoon, there's got to be time for an hour of ladder games.

[@BryanGozSi13]

Great victory for Clem

[@HarutaArt]

I think it's telling that a best of 5 took under an hour. Regardless of any specific race balance, maybe the early game has become too aggressive? I'm kinda missing the full map, late game scenarios.

[@ShiroAisu10]

Clem makes protoss look really fun to play.

[@innocentbystander309]

The Clem switch up had me baffled.

[@brentantheunis2456]

Clem just said "skill issue" to all protoss players.

[@MrChachSC2]

Reynor and clem both of race Protoss in tournaments… why can’t they main toss?!?

[@maximemalherbe4325]

@@MrChachSC2 They switch protoss when they think their opponents have a better mirror match-up.

[@bloodydove5718]

@@MrChachSC2 And they both have ranked in the top 3 protoss at one point or another, and i forget which but one had even been top 1 protoss on their region's ladder for some time too

[@firestarter000001]

Im not sure he did. If he would have advanced all the way up here with Protoss, it would mean something. But Showtime in EWC had even closer series against gumiho, he was even closer to wining.

[@loganmyall660]

Nah if he did this on the last patch that would've been it. He's saying ghost nerfs weren't insignificant like some people say (I'm not complaining the nerf was needed and good) and maybe protoss is strong now lol.

[@RachelTension]

I think players changing race is good too. However, it should only be allowed between matches, not games and you need to decide at least an hour before the match or as soon as you know who your opponent is going to be.

[@Mindiaugas]

Just play random in tournament!!!

[@amadeusczernymolinareyes932]

gumihooooooooooooooo my romeoo

[@genehenson8851]

Someday my dream of random-only tournaments will come true. SC2 in its purest form.

[@akwarddino2933]

Could you cast their first game of home story cup?

[@usamoronocracy526]

now we know why Clem wanted the ghost to be nerfed !!! 🤣

[@javierdelaregata503]

Can we please see the terran v terran between these two. I want to see the cyclone army comp

[@undertalebob3207]

I know you mentioned as like a conspiracy theory thing that terrains are avoiding using ghosts so it doesnt get nerfed but.....I havent seen a single ghost in ANY game you've casted in like weeks lol....And Terrain has still won most of the time...

[@Rektek97]

Hey Lowko it was really nice meeting you at the hsc, which was the first one I attended! Looking forward to the next one! :)

[@myrhev42]

Reynor tried off racing but that didn’t work out. Maybe the other kid will do it!

[@phongminh2588]

Even a great micro player like Clem could not make it

[@alexandruconstantin4655]

this game should start be named Starcraft 2, Terain and some extras..

[@russelldeanharris4341]

can you post the Harstem vs Serrall series in this tournament or link me?

[@ryanfahey1281]

*spit takes* Protoss Clem?!?!

[@PB-ib3po]

HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

[@sward0483]

I feel like the proper pronunciation is "ah-mig-dala" amygdala is a thing in your brain. Controls emotions and stuff

[@stephanwalter1467]

Support comment did not watch all yet

[@FinoClips]

WHAT

[@Disruptor1990]

not even clem can win PvT against his own race. Idk man...seems doomed

[@Caipi2070]

so showtime in the last home story cup making it to the ace match against gumiho doesn’t count?! lol (0:06)

[@oshawott4544]

Personally, I think there are just more very good Terran players. Is Terran unbalanced? Are the players just better? Not sure. But every single Hero game comes with some pain, especially when he F2s an observer somewhere dumb.

[@Wolvenwargmusic]

Well no Serral in the finals guess that means they finally nerfed Zerg so stupidly bad zerg has no hope of ever winning.

[@georgetarbaya2001]

Seven zergs in TOP50 players in ladder rankings? If it's bad for pro's it'svery bad for all other zergs)

[@Odragonkingo231]

Well considering its a Protoss vs. Terran I don't even have to watch this one through to know the ending... Unfortunate really.

[@Lellopastorello]

it was really close tho

[@bloodydove5718]

I mean the fact that the protoss in this match is the player's offrace and still made it incredibly close says a lot

[@LPianapitham]

Protoss just doesn’t have core units.

[@Searly]

​@@bloodydove5718 protoss used to be clems main, he is the world champion and he is playing against the race he knows the best. I don't even see a way of him not performing well, the problem is that he still got beaten anyways which is kinda unfortunate

[@jkkim6928]

Gumiho’s tvp is nowhere near top tier so stop with offrace bs brain dead terran whiners 😂

[@kevinjeffrey2394]

How lame. Marines marauders tanks. Stalkers.

[@bloodydove5718]

I always find it interesting that multiple zerg and terran pros occasionally offrace protoss in tournaments, and do so incredibly well at it

[@firestarter000001]

Actually as i remember it, Reynor when switching to Protoss usually got slapped, maybe once he did good.

[@commissar6860]

In case you weren't watching, Clem lost and didn't play particularly well.

[@bloodydove5718]

@@commissar6860 I did watch and clem did play well, which it came down to a rubber match. He just lost. He's also played pro matches several times as protoss outside of just this one time, and he's done well then too and won as protoss.

[@guibettio578]

Do you think terran is broken?? I´d rather say: Clem is broken! But, still, yeah, wtf terran is broken!

[@OnigoroshiZero]

Clem knows that his TvT is not on the same level as the top Koreans (because there is no other Terran of the same level in EU), so instead he made a massive mistake, he used another race against Terran. Next year will be the greatest joke in the history of the game as far as tournament results go. At this point just delete Terran from the game entirely, it's the only way to bring a sample of balance.

[@danyalraza9707]

cry more

[@jannieschluter9670]

It's Kréfeld, not Krèfèld. Long eee. ;)

[@teeee8534]

ended up a lost game, reynor and clem are so dumb to understand this , if they put more effort to research on how to play better with their main race, then they will do much better

[@kosherun]

lol probably would have won as terran

[@i_Jus]

first!

[@whats82]

Clem not confident in his TvT ? is that a serious comment ?

[@maximemalherbe4325]

It's well known that TvT is not the best match-up of Clem, especially against Top Korean terrans.

[@ThanatosHellfire]

Yeah I watched the stream and he himself said he isn't comfortable in TvT, plus he already had TvT against Gumiho in the quaterfinals and lost. Gumiho kinda forces you to play mech in TvT against him (with new patch cyclone, which is very recent so no time to train counter-measures) and Clem really dislikes mech (too slow for him to have fun I think) so he prefered switching to protoss for the finals.

[@litlgenjinie2927]

Gumiho already beat Maru and Clem to reach the finals, and Clem even loses to byun, cure or sometimes ryung. His PvT is definitely better than TvT.

[@XabiBello]

@@maximemalherbe4325 Lets see: in 2024, Clem vs Gumiho is 5-3 for Clem. Maru vs Clem is 1-1 in 2024, 1-1 in 2023. Clem vs Ryung is 8-2 in 2024. I think those numbers are decently good for TVT vs terran koreans in HSC, certainly better than Clem PvT.

[@grimmingpitb461]

@@XabiBello Your hurting me here. it's not about the money. it's about fun. but also he got bullied by gumi before this specifically.