New 2020 BMW M235i Gran Coupe 1st Drive | 2020 2 Series Gran Coupe

[@JoeAchilles1]

Have a great weekend everyone, please remember to help support my channel with ctrlandshift.com Thank you

[@Dan-gy4kn]

The problem with this car is the bmw fan boys that are upset that it's no longer "Traditional" this car in person with the right wheels 554m wheels looks brilliant and drives brilliant. People need to move with the times.

[@dominicrusho]

I really like it! Shoot me!

[@stu4181]

From certain angles its alright looking.... sounds just like me trying to defend myself to my mates back in uni after id taken a moose home....

[@L77yma]

That is horrible but funny 😂

[@stu4181]

Mr L77yma 🤣 think we all know that it means it’s not a great looking car with that sort of statement. I really can’t see the need for it, if you need bigger than a 2 series you buy a 4 or 3 series?? I’m also a bit bitter that bmw have sold out on their core values these days, had 5 BMW’s in a row, by haven’t bothered this time around!

[@harryc266]

I don’t understand the hate. It’s just a mini 8GC. I’d never buy it but my god it doesn’t deserve the hate.

[@scottscottsdale7868]

This is a nice entry level BMW. I have one and it

[@swanblake]

Fwd based junk. I don't want a Mini JCW as a BMW. 4 cylinder, automatic only is disappointing and the styling is dreadful. Then there is the fact that this "BMW" has torque steer which is unacceptable. Good for a Kia something. Bring back the rwd. I will only consider a BMW if it's rwd

[@kmack5799]

Totally agree - I am a BMW driver but an ugly mini in disguise isnt for me. I used to own a BMW M135i back in 2013 but I wouldnt even conciser a 1 series now!

[@anjdog2003]

HALF OF THESE POEPLE WITH NEGATIVE COMMENTS HAVE NEVER OWNED A BMW

[@stevengroom6484]

I’ve just returned my M240i after three years. My dealer wanted me to upgrade to a M135i or this M235i. Upgrade, are you having a laugh 😂 design failure, engine failure. Customer lost. Good review though Joe 👍

[@terenceanderson903]

Likewise - I bought an M2 comp instead - is that what they wanted?...

[@richarddutchholland4780]

BMW is starting to go the wrong way..... too many versions of the same car, I’m lost on the modern version of BMW

[@martinofleeds]

BMW Have gone berserk with the Ugly Stick with this one....... Whoever designed that Grill was obviously Pissed Up. When he went to get it signed off, he was in Luck, Mr Sign off was pissed as well. just to make sure the Designer gave Mr Sign off, a Man Sized line of Ketamine, just to make sure it went through........

[@Steveindajeep]

Im convinced who ever is designing the new grills is a plant from audi or lexus and they are trying to ruin BMW internally.

[@kuddin9021]

They’ve got this 1/2 series design completely wrong. Hella ugly

[@speedywinger10]

Agree.. The back part looks terribly design.. not sure anyone fancy this kinda design.. hmm

[@danstevenson8918]

Horrendous looking car

[@sergeypanfilov3397]

abso (fucking) lutely agree

[@TosinSalisu]

I love this car💙

[@tsint]

II'm not sure about the English word, but it has too much sheet metal above the rear wheel. It makes the car looks strange/heavy with wrong proportions.

[@figuwolf7227]

Joe, as always👍 Grand Coupe 👎 ...I stick to my f20💜 Cheers 🍻

[@dalearumugam9163]

If the 1 series had this front end it would have looked so much better, because the rear is great on that car

[@sanmarino_cs1698]

Dear me this makes the new 1 series look half decent 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ Bmw need to stop smoking what they are currently!!

[@Chris-nj1mr]

5:40 "some angles look better than others" The angle behind the tree was best, mate! Not a looker, that's for sure 😁

[@peterbennpan7288]

Can you add adaptive cruise control on this through connected drive after you've taken delivery of it? I've noticed all the new 1 & 2 series all have the radar square plastic thing on the front but alot don't come with the adaptive cruise control from factory?

[@albrightonthenight]

Why is there no rear and front camera on a 50k car? Is this normal for bmw

[@Dome79nico]

They should have done a “ touring “ one instead of this Grancoupe.

[@rare6499]

100%!

[@scottw1174]

I still love my M240i convertible, i added a remus exhaust, the car looks Japanese i love the b58 engine

[@markmahood2019]

So many average looking BMW's now.

[@icemanjondoe]

“kinda works when you get down low” Great reporting there Joe.. I will be sure to crouch down each time I approach this car to make it kinda look good.

[@phillipbarclay5764]

Hey Jo - re the busy - I get what you mean...that said I have just swapped out of my 2020 Mini Countryman JCW to an M235i with 19s - strangely to me the Mini was more busy on its 19s and that was supposed to have some tiny offroad capability - the seats in that were firmer - I find these ones more comfortable despite what the Americans seem to say about them - they also say its really firm - I disagree in comfort, its not a waterbed for sure but its quite comfy - I guess I am used to sports suspension! I havent done 100 miles even yet so I cannot comment too much re sport... what I would say is to me the M light should have more beans than the mini JCWs in my view - and less than an M (M2 etc) so with that I think I will add a bit too it. Mine is Black - looks great - I like the hatch - but I do like this with a boot - makes more sense to me personally but I am 5ft 8 - the wife is 5ft 6 and we have a 7 year old so no sloping roof issue for me! :) What I would also say is I think you should do another video on this - you had it for no time at all - you can even use mine (once its bedded in) if you like - I think it deserves a more comprehensive review - you hardly even drove this one ;)

[@jamiep61]

Great Video Review. Looks Great In M235i Spec

[@machtschnell7452]

So as the Mini Cooper that it really is, how does it rate?

[@MCKRides]

4 series vertical grille, 2 series horizontal grill, 7 series vertical grill, z4 horizontal grill - is there any consistency?

[@garethhooper3658]

I dont understand why they leave the door mirrors grey and the trim at the front? Same with the m140is does not suit the car at all with all the colours apart from black.

[@carllynch8798]

I don’t like the look of the car but the wheels are stunning. Great vid Joe

[@LukeW1090]

I forgot who said it originally, but I dont understand the '4 door version of a 2 door version of a 4 door car', eg take a 3 series (4 doors), make a 2 door version (4 series) then add 2 doors back... BMW really are cashing in and M cars too and they dont feel rare/special anymore. Quality cars yes, but just not quite as limited production as I'd like on that front.

[@DontPanicDear]

My eyes! 🙈

[@mountjoy23]

Looks like a Toyota Corolla. Torque steer, reverse tardis seating. Think what else you could buy for the money.

[@Rumblingbelly]

The older M235i looks much better and has a nicer engine, considering to buy the old one.

[@howardnoble7289]

In what way is the engine fettled in the uk ???

[@darexdarex]

Why does this particular unit have the old-style memory seats; whereas, every other video shows them mounted on the door? How odd!

[@curtr.5083]

Loved the video Joe, I was looking forward to your opinion as a fellow M2 owner. Laughably, the rear of the M2 seems larger than this rear seat. Definitely looks like more headroom in the M2; interesting vehicle for sure.

[@mikeybirch8204]

Will there be a new 2 door 2 series ?

[@rare6499]

Yeah there will be a coupe - the coupe will be on the RWD platform unlike the rest of the 2 series range.

[@cfbm125]

“The roads are pretty bad around here!” Welcome to Gloucestershire joe 👍, did this video involve or have you visited Cotswold BMW cheltenham? The Dealership/showroom is fantastic, many era’s of BMW on show.

[@peterbennpan7288]

Can anyone explain in kindergarten terms what this diff is up at the front on the m1/2 35i? Is it a proper mechanical diff or some kind of ediff?

[@garysimpson3900]

I also initially thought it was ugly & my views still haven't changed.

[@NICKFOXTV]

Nice first look, not one for me though. Keep up the good work 🙂

[@stevemarshall1610]

It's a bit like the GT models from the back...which is not a good thing :(

[@iansneddon74]

I saw one of these in my local BMW dealership last weekend. It's actually not bad looking in the metal, in my opinion. I was there to order an M135i. Looking forward to it arriving.

[@advitam31]

i dont like the new design of bmw specialy this car in the rear ...i feel its cut with an ax its to much ...overload

[@jacovan-der-walt8593]

Nice video Joe, hope you have a good weekend buddy 😊

[@scottfromengland2303]

If I'm honest Joe i can't see any1 buying 1 of these mate 🤔 I don't know what it is but for around 40k I don't know if this new 2 series is worth it ? Great video as always though mate & thx for showing us 😎

[@jamessmith-hb9ej]

Skip to what is it like to drive 10:30 straight to the point

[@paulanthony2024]

The 235i xdrive is best in black 😉

[@joshstreet3919]

Compared to the 1 Series I think it looks good. It’d be my choice out the two

[@31crazyice]

Why does the 2GC look better in this video than in other videos on yt lol 😂 Omg, when the tire noise is louder than the engine, you know it’s the wrong engine 😢

[@sirmanni4534]

With the back roof being so low you can’t have NBA or supermodel friends

[@andrewmoorhouse687]

Sorry, BMW, as I’ve been a fan for many years and owned more than a few, but the 1 and this 2 GC are for badge snobs, not enthusiasts. I haven’t seen that many new 1 series out on the road and they’ve been on sale 6 months now. There’s tons of M135i models pre-registered and ex-demos for sale 2nd hand, sorry, ‘pre-owned’ on BMW’s used website (at least here in the UK). Pre-reg ones are typically £30-32k rather than £40k or so new. Says it all, really. Hoping the new 4 series coupe and 2 series coupe due this year/next year re-discover some of the BMW magic that seems sadly lacking in recent releases. The new i4 looks potentially interesting too, so fingers crossed.

[@Zuxeh]

Oof, this is a miss.

[@lav773]

I don't like it BMW ...wtf 🤮. Keep up the good reviews joe 👏

[@1970boggy]

Seriously 😒 That’s the worst looking car I’ve seen BMW produce! Vile

[@hoopsbreaker]

I am pretty sure about how I feel about the back end of the car... it’s bloody ugly 😂

[@markrhoden68]

I'm sure its mother loved it. Just seems the designers lost the argument and had little or no input

[@gregoryuk]

Angle of the car at 3.40 is reminiscent of a Volvo or even a Mazda 6.

[@GTRuppsala]

It look likes Volvo s60 Polestar from 2015 😊

[@Zermatt1]

Heartless sound.

[@rare6499]

The rear ergonomics are shocking. That rear end is a disaster. You never had to find a ‘good’ angle with something like an E46, or make apologies or excuses for it. The design of it was border line, restrained, handsome, perfection. Germanic (dare I say). Now BMW have lost that. Now they look like they could have come from Korea (not a slight against Korea) - they just no longer have that restrained Germanic brilliance (aesthetically) that made them in to the brand we all grew up with. Still a ‘good’ car. Perhaps the BMW we need, not quite the BMW we want...

[@izuaff04]

Looking more and more like a Toyota Corolla.......😀

[@savethecars315]

A bit disappointed for the look even if I prefer the front grill on 2GC than on the 1. Very precise and enjoyable review as always 👍🏻

[@evrensokmener6768]

BMW have lost it with this monstrosity.

[@brightbluesmurf]

😂

[@blackjackzw]

The back seating looks like it has just enough room, but unfortunately you can’t drive the road with the back doors open! 😂 What were they thinking. It’s almost like a longer Audi TT, pointless back seats....

[@peterwood2633]

Seems like a shadow of the former M235i tbh

[@nickname1812]

Always a good video from you Joe but BMW's current exterior design language is a disater visually. They are going in a really awkward direction, difficult proportions and grim details. I like the wheels though.

[@poooooow]

No one loves this design, everyone is just pointing at it with "I kinda get used to it" - wow, that speaks for a great design then 😂

[@UnknownUser-bt4gk]

BMW need to make a 235d!

[@jibbsmckenze7555]

Leave diesel to tractor Tom...please

[@bambychoi9366]

I couldn’t be friends with anyone considering this particular model. I’d find it hard to trust someone considering the new M135i, but I get it... this however.... don’t waste your money.

[@BoujieTee]

I think the car looks good the colour defo doesn’t help tho

[@jamestyrrell2225]

Don't know why anyone would buy that over a cla or A3 saloon

[@harryc266]

James Tyrrell why would anyone buy any of them? 😂

[@simonnelson7770]

Great review of an awful car, the only way BMW has improved is the interior, but the styling is bizarre?

[@davisflyer]

Golf R would be a better daily I think.

[@kevin-l7r7p]

BMW: "What can we do with our next gen cars boys"...."The same as we and every other manufacturer did last time?"...."Sure lets make them bigger"...again

[@GaryDownes]

Not really for me TBH. I'll stick with my F85 X5M. I will say however, for a young woman who doesn't need a large vehicle, I can see why they would like a smaller, more compact 4 door BMW.

[@brightbluesmurf]

That rear end is just awful honestly BMW styling is disastrous right now

[@markrhoden68]

To be fair if you were going to carry four large adults surely you'd choose a bigger car from the start

[@scorpionx211]

Hi Joe, I am subscribed to your channel for a long time now, I absolutely love your videos!! The only thing annoying in your videos is that they are not 4K :( Please move to 4K videos :)

[@tinhinnh]

That half meister window looks so Chevy-ish

[@Francloy1]

Looks like you guys are rocking to a silent rock song.

[@MsGman598]

BMW designers need sacking, looks awful and the rear seats are pointless!

[@boblambert7889]

Good video guys, shame about the car. I’ve got 2 BMWs in the family, this car will definitely not be an addition.

[@dickie8184]

And people said the e60 was an ugly car...

[@terenceanderson903]

Totally missing the point - a 3 litre straight 6 is replaced by a 2 litre car

[@JoeAchilles1]

It's not replacing anything you bell end

[@steveiggy4870]

@@JoeAchilles1😂😂😂

[@wanmanda]

I don't see the appeal for grand coupe's

[@kevinyoo0501]

I just can't get used to the rear end. And why would you buy a car that you have to get used to it instead of what you like. BMW losing their touch.. FYI, this car is not cheap in price either.

[@ThePistonPit]

They could’ve done better with the design at the back

[@Zeeturbo]

Just clicked to give Joe a view on the vid. That side profile is awful.

[@wesbear6969]

It’s sooooooooo ugly... at every single angle

[@delboy2596]

Went to my local dealer to see one of these last weekend. very disappointing in the metal. Very underwhelming. Came away with an 8 series. which was near enough.

[@mikehodgkins2054]

nah.

[@andrewb293]

Like it.

[@Deb-ee]

Don’t like the styling at all...the G20 3 series is the only nice looking “new” bmw

[@Scala598]

Clearly whoever's designed the rear was inspired by the beluga whale...

[@sheddyk9173]

Fwd? nahh fuck tha like the design but the fwd is a turn off

[@malcolmscott4150]

Misnamed car - it’s a 1 series sedan and competes against Audi S3 etc anbd only then can I take the car seriously but that rear styling is just plain awful

[@andywmoffat]

Awful, the 1 series is terrible and this isn’t much better. Doesn’t even compare to the CLA and I’m a BMW fan.