NEW! 2025 Hoyt ALPHA AX2 29.5 with MFJJ!!

[@bradleycounts1022]

I'm new to bow hunting. I'm shooting a Bear Legit 28 Inch draw length, 70 lbs draw weight. Man I fell in Love with Bow hunting and being in the tree stand.. I'm gonna finish this season with my Bear Legit. I'm gonna give my 12 yr old son my Bear for next season which will be his 1st season of bow hunting and I'm gonna get this Hoyt your showing. I really like your videos, they are packed full of information. I've already learned alot about bows and how to some of the work myself on them just from watching your videos. So Thanks for doing what you do!!! Me and my son being new to shooting bows can use all the help we can get. So we definitely appreciate it! Keep em coming! 🏹 🎯

[@alannavance2715]

His information is amazing... Don't pick a bow because one person says it is amazing. Hit your local pro shop and shoot a couple different bows. Go with what feels the best! Welcome to the wonderful world of Archery.

[@bradleycounts1022]

@alannavance2715 I'm from Southern Ohio, Buckeye Archery is my local pro shop I bought my Bear Legit from. I'm gonna take your advice and go down there and shoot a bunch of the new bows to see how they feel to me. Thanks for the suggestion. Much appreciated 🎯

[@TulanePass]

@@bradleycounts1022what’s ur outcome

[@ericeverson6822]

You got the best reviews out there

[@Bowhunter82]

Moral of the story with compounds bows nowadays is that we are at the point of designs and speeds being maxed out thats why a little change here a little change there is all we have been seeing and will continue to see besides the price going up and up. So far this year there has been nothing and i mean nothing impressive that has come out. Basically all carbon copys of past bows.

[@jameshoward7978]

The Darton is maybe the standout so far

[@JasonReilich]

I hear you man that's all it is money grab money grab money grab

[@bmook019]

​@jameshoward7978 I've heard the dartons shoot nice. I'd prefer one with out the adjustable limb bolts. I'd rather use spacers so it won't have any chance of moving.

[@dylanhouse9748]

i think it would be beneficial to give a list of what is different from this years bow to last year. what has changed and what they improved on. doesn’t need a score necessarily but would be good information to know. i absolutely love your videos and watch them all before buying a new bow

[@Bowguy_44]

I shot Both the rx9 and ax2 29. At 70 lbs 28.5 inches. It felt like shooting a 70lbs bow. Definitely more of a stiff drawing cam all the way through.. At the bow shop we shot the ultra against the Mach33 @ 28.5dl 70lbs 415gr arrow. The bows were within 1-3fps of each other, but the Mach33 by far had the better/ easier draw cycle.

[@kevinmountain6301]

audio is only coming out of my left headphone btw

[@trevorcoffey9410]

Same. Really weird.

[@The_Garmin_Guru]

Thought it was just me. 😂

[@jameshoward7978]

Yeah only the intro song is in both

[@BlueCollarOutdoorsUSA]

Just uploaded in mono is all, probably didn’t transcode and analyze in stereo sound I’ve done this 100 times in a rush 🤣🤣

[@EvolvedX69]

Not if i only have my right one in

[@sawtoothscream1521]

Wouldnt mind a short draw review.

[@harveyrousejr.2069]

I agree on the adjustability. Antiquated! Bowtech hands down the easiest to tune.

[@bmook019]

Also the easiest to go out of tune.

[@tonyallen8626]

Hoyt's have always been pretty good with their claimed ibo speeds, they've never really been caught out saying their does some crazy speed

[@WendellAbigania]

Saw Hoyt's and Lancaster Archery's IG posts and instantly came here for the review lol. Cuts in the riser look very similar to Mathew's risers which just shows where the technology is into weight reduction on aluminum risers. And this bow is fast at 70#. Still waiting for the 19th for Mathews to release their new lineup. Pretty sure it'll score much higher in "tuneability" lol. Awesome stuff MFJJ! Mahalos always and pushng us consumers to support our local pro shop.

[@CryptoHuntinDad]

Can you give us the full draw stability measurement like PSE. It's the brace height at full draw. Lancaster Archery said that's why the PSE shoots so good at long ranges and he said that measurement is more important than any other measurements for long range shooting

[@wcwcgarner2717]

I think the hoyt helix was 29 and half too. And that bow shot good

[@jasoneven8320]

That’s the bow I still run. Love it

[@GardenArcher7625]

Nope.. Helix -> 30,5 but the CarbonRX4-Alpha was 29,5..

[@BansheeH-ft6qi]

Please do a review on a short draw version.

[@jimputnam7539]

I like this bow, but I want tunability to keep the gremlins away. It also like how he pushes for everyone to buy from their local shop!! Hats off to you sir and good luck on that hunt!!

[@KTMsoldier1988]

Sometimes having all them add ons creates them gremlins. Parts move and what not. A more efficient bow can be more dependable in that regard.

[@kyleb8191]

I'd love to see a review of the SD model being a 27" draw myself. Curious how much of a difference the SD maxed out at 27" is to this one

[@juantoledo2286]

Same here. I'm on the fence do I order the Sd maxed at 27 or the std model

[@Cpt-Pugwash14]

I think it's time for me to grow another mowhawk !! looks siiicckkk

[@brandonperkins4610]

Your personal and honest opinion. Since you tested both the RX9 and the AX-2, which do you recommend or prefer?

[@TrinityChristiansen-py3ek]

Can you do a speed comparison with the short draw cam compared to the standard cam?

[@GardenArcher7625]

They say it is 310 fps at 27SD (max) ... How fast is the 27 setting HBX-Gen4 (25-30) ..? That would be an interesting video..

[@sawtoothscream1521]

That's what I want to see.

[@Doober560]

I would guess the tune ability thing doesn’t mean that much to the majority of people. Especially since when a Hoyt is tuned it hardly ever moves. I personally don’t want a bunch of moving parts and screws on my bow that has the chance of moving.

[@bmook019]

Yup those spacers won't move. I'd rather set it and forget it.

[@TheJoeml85]

I don’t know if I want to get the new Hoyt ax 2 29.5 or the Mathew’s lift x 29.5 I don’t have the luxury of shooting different bows because my local shop hardly has left hand bows in stock

[@MikeyWoomer]

Does the load out point change? Like ever? With different weight draw & draw length? Or is the load out point the load our point? Just curious..

[@kentchapman8919]

How was the vibration when shot?

[@thomasredloh4219]

What is a good reflex

[@Vintage-406]

A lot of people think they want “tuneability” … I’ve read comments on the internet, the majority DO NOT need to be working on their own bow. If a serious archer wants to tune their bow, they will buy a press to tune the bow PROPERLY.

[@Doober560]

Thank you for this comment

[@adamredden2007]

We do want tunability, and we don't want to spend half the price of another bow for a press. The ONLY reason that Hoyt and Mathews haven't joined everyone else is so they can charge more money for the parts and modules to make simple changes and "tune them properly." Done with that. A lot of people are.

[@Vintage-406]

@@adamredden2007 I get what both are trying to do, Mathew’s makes no sense not being able to change draw length or let off without a module change. I think he is referring to wheeling, paper tear, etc. you absolutely should be able to adjust draw length and let off without a press. But timing and paper tear should be left to working with a bow press and not a gadget.

[@outdooraddictionwv5299]

Yeah I can see a lot of stripped bolts happening

[@scottyjames2432]

What bow (exception) were you not able to get used to their pull?

[@derickprice8996]

Instead of measuring the “load off point”, could you measure the string angle? Measuring the load off point isn’t an apples to apples comparison between bows of their brace heights are different, but measured string angle at 30” draw could be directly compared to each other

[@Thedudeabides803]

Hoyt is tunable I tune out. Great review.

[@juanrodriguez-mu7ko]

Can I buy that bow on line yet?

[@harveyrousejr.2069]

And I’m a Hoyt archer.

[@timojumppanen4142]

Could you do More bow reviews that has long draw lenghts. Really Hard to find those that have draw lenght More than 31".

[@juantoledo2286]

So if I'm 26 3/4 draw. Am I gonna get better performance from the std 25-30 or from the SD 23-27 draw

[@shaundefreece6635]

Is the specific draw module the same for the Rx9?

[@shaundefreece6635]

I retract that question. Just watched your video on the Rx9 . Thanks though

[@codygilbert117]

Would you be able to do the reviews on the hoyt short draw modles please mfjj

[@sawtoothscream1521]

Really would love to see a test of the sd set to 27" and the normal cam set to 27" and see some real would results.

[@kurtgellert9166]

Always love the scoring element to your reviews. However, when a bow is the 2nd fastest you've reviewed, including all of the bows from the previous year, and the speed is near the advertised speed, I'm struggling to understand how you penalize that one from 15 down to a 12??? And the weight is about 4 lbs but gets a 6/10? Seems heavy-handed. Agree on tunability. They need to bring a better approach.

[@matthewhomesley5230]

Not a Hoyt guy but sounds crazy quiet.

[@brandongumaer2997]

Bought mine today, 440grain arrow, 65lbs at 27” I’m getting 265fps

[@davidmiller2688]

Same specs on my lift and I’m getting 288

[@brandongumaer2997]

@ maybe but I have a lift and it’s similar to the speed of the hoyt

[@Tradman47]

I'll spend my money on a Black widow and not loose my ass if i ever decide to sell😊Probably never will though

[@vfonte218]

I like everything except the price

[@wouldntyoulike2know883]

Hey degen. I need you to know I’m growing Mohawk this deer season. The goal is because why the hell not, and to embarrass my 3 daughters.

[@collinreimer3112]

Looks like they copy pasted the lift into a Hoyt platform

[@Jrod32391]

Fax

[@TheEverLovingOutdoors]

Not at all 😂

[@jordanbrooks946]

@@TheEverLovingOutdoorsright lol

[@treyclary8248]

Yep

[@proudlyamerican2764]

Looks notta like a lift my guy! Looks like a hoyt with fat loss

[@tommy001996]

The Darton actually ranked higher with a 70

[@BadKarma.-]

Tune ability is massive and Darton is one of the leaders there now

[@budekai]

how are these videos getting out with left only audio? don't edit on speakers please.

[@ryanpittman8690]

So it’s the same bow as last year😂

[@jwild5360]

The load out point IS NOT what you think it is. You would have to measure the ACTUAL string angle. If 2 bows have the same “load out” as you call it and one has a cam the rolls over to a severe angle and the other does not the string angle will be significantly different. Strings track off cams and severely different angles. The elite energy is a great example of that. It has a very wide string angle for its “load out” as your calling it. Mathews has one of the worst. Your measurement may be good on the Mathews but the string angle itself will not compare with the hoyts or elites Apple for Apple Is there a use for what you’re measuring? Maybe so but it’s not what you’re describing it as here. I’ve got about 30 bows set to the same AMO DL with string angle measurements compared to limb flex cam size etc.

[@mlvegeta]

I like jj but I don't get these bow reviews and scoring. He takes measurements and tests and compares them to the manufacturer specs then gives them a score writes it on the board and so on. When he's shooting the bow for the speed test he gives his opinion on how the bows feel and shoot, usually comparing them to different bows, what he likes and doesn't like..things that you actually want to know. Then back to the numbers, goes through the comparisons and says "I'll give them" and writes down the number based on his opinion anyway lol. I just don't get how comparing actual numbers to manufacturer numbers scores a bow. If the draw length is off a little then they're liers lol. Just use the actual numbers why compare on paper? Let's say you buy the bow with the highest score. Set it up start shooting and you find things you don't like or just don't like the bow all together. Do you keep it and "just get used to it" because it's at the top of the scoreboard, or do you want to have a bow that you actually like. When you do find the bow you like, but the axle to axle is not EXACTLY what the manufacturer says do you pass it up? If it doesn't shoot the EXACT speed as advertised do you not want it? Do you really need to know the ACTUAL db's? I understand the brace height effect but am I going to take a ruler with me to the bow shop and make sure it matches EXACTLY. Wouldn't you rather want to know how the bow feels, what the draw cycle feels like, how hard is the back wall, how much vibration when it shoots all the actual aspects of the bow itself. It's awesome to know the exact numbers and measurements. Your reviews are the best out there. I'm old school my first bow was a Darton 30mx. I've seen the technology grow and it's incredible nowadays. So many manufacturers now and all are very similar to each other. Speed ratings are all pretty much the same for all flagship bows. It really comes down to bandwagon and what you like and don't like.. you know Ford vs Chevy shit. You really can't go wrong with any bow these days. Just tell us how the bows feel when you shoot them. What's good what's bad what's different what's new.... Loose the goofy scoreboard and just tell us how it is!

[@memmett321]

What you're asking for is all subjective. How it feels to him may not feel the same way to you. His goofy scoreboard is his attempt (and very well done in my opinion) to take some of the subjectivity out of it to have an equal comparison across multiple bows and manufacturers - an apples to apples vs. "this feels stiff to me" or "love/hate the back wall" etc. Plenty of those reviews will be online in the coming days. I like what MFJJ has tried to do and I'm sure it will continue to improve as he fine tunes his methodology.

[@mlvegeta]

That's pretty much what I said. It comes down to his opinion when he gives the score. He still rates by his opinion. Like I said all the testing is great and definitely needed. What does comparing paper numbers to actual numbers do? Just rate the actual numbers! Why bother with numbers on paper. If you like a bow are you not gonna buy it just because the axle to axle is not exactly what the paper says? I think you kinda missed what I was saying. I'm not knocking his reviews and information. Just why compare it to paper numbers? It is what it is. You're gonna like it because you like what it is not what the tag says

[@jetskiordie7976]

Soooooo why aren’t we just weighing the bows as they sit immediately out of the box???

[@ChrisSmoove77]

Pecker measuring contest

[@MaxBechdel]

Another video where the audio is only in my left ear and it drives me nuts. Come on :P

[@MaxBechdel]

I should also say I really appreciate your videos!

[@keithquick]

And it costs $1449....

[@Wingdings08]

That thing is tiny!

[@Bigtrain1]

No volume, getting to be normal

[@michaelwilson3165]

He can't say anything bad it's a joke

[@davidhowell3609]

I understand from a DIY or shop owner perspective that tuning is important. However most people that buy a bow imo arent interested in tuning their bow and if they are. They mostly likely have a press and draw board. Also considering Hoyt won’t sell direct to consumer that means a pro shop is able to tune the bow for you. It’s a small minority and i think it should be a lower factor on the list

[@jaysonsulser6099]

still waiting on someone to prove that set mods are more efficient than a rotating mod. zero and i mean zero numbers have ever been put out. sorry mathews, hoyt and prime not drinking the Kool aid. other than that these are meh. 450 grain at 28" shooting 280 my elevate from 22' shoots the same .

[@Your_mom736]

The manufacturer and their engineers are trying to prove anything to you. Either buy it or don’t. They appear to be doing fine without your approval.

[@rwhite7361]

The mods being an improvement and knock on rotating mods is based on Hoyt’s history of certain draw lengths on certain models being slow as molasses.

[@iwilrage]

Did he just give good points for a harsh draw? Excuse is you will get used to it? That is dishonest, should have been marked down for it. Also, how was that price fair when it has zero adjustability? It will cost people money to adjust it!

[@KlaberRidge]

It’s true though most people get you used to their draw cycles and as far as adjustability most shops will set you up properly when you purchase the bow as far as mods and wheel lean. 90% of the time most tuning people do after purchase is rest tuning for broad heads.

[@c7u3676]

First.

[@79travisdee]

Disappointed with tuneability. It’s the only thing keeping me from considering this bow

[@krisessick4464]

Don’t be. Shims take two minutes to swap. Hoyt isn’t interested in extra screws. Their bread and butter is durability. Those fancy tuning methods don’t hold up to dry fires, which Hoyt does to all their bows.

[@jonathanbarksdale8595]

I agree and once you shim it your usually done for a very long time. These bows are hard to beat for all around hunting bows. IMO.

[@rwhite7361]

Performance is all that matters, most people don’t tune often and it’s kind of a gimmick. This is a sweet bow

[@davidhowell3609]

Tuning means nothing to me. Im not constantly changing my setup and don’t need/want to bother with constantly adjusting or making sure things are tight or properly in tune. My hoyts current and past have been spot on and stayed tuned till i needed new strings and at that point they get retuned

[@africanbornadventures]

Iv been using the spacer system for a few years now. They hold tune very well and it seems very forgiving with differing arrow spines. It’s a durable system.

[@michaelwilson3165]

Load of bs it's the same