NEW 60V Toro SUPER RECYCLER - In Depth Review

NEW 60V Toro SUPER RECYCLER - In Depth Review
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[@hassenfepher]

Economy is probably for battery life. Also. As a nerd and car guy. I'm not mad at your use of "clutch feathering".

[@Thelawncarenut]

1981 Datusn 210 station wagon. 5 speed manual. My first car. Did reallly good burnouts in dirt alleys.

[@paulmaestas8709]

@@Thelawncarenut I just received my Toro Super Recycler 60v 7.5ah mower from UPS today. I put everything togwther and the only thing that I noticed was the right front wheel seems like it doesn't make full contact with the ground like the other 3 wheels do?? I double checked on a flat even surface to make sure it wasn't on an uneven surface and I noticed the same thing. Has anyone noticed this with this mower? It sucks knowing I'm going to have to return the unit and wait for another one to come in.

[@tomdurkins]

@@paulmaestas8709 Don’t return it. Call Will Smith. He’ll slap that shit back into place.

[@kennethcooley9917]

@@Thelawncarenut buy a Fiskars reel mower & be a stud, instead of battery powered wuss plastic, 🤣🤣🤣. Connor Ward for yard President!!!

[@davefroman4700]

@@Thelawncarenut The clutch is exactly what is being used. The spring action of the handle is the actuator instead of the foot pedal. Clutch does not care what the power is coming from. Its job is to transfer the power, not analyze it.

[@orionmyth]

I've been using a Hart 40-volt self-propelled a few months and you're so right about how annoying that hesitation and jerk is you learn to adapt and use it it's cool you can pop wheelies and drift

[@ericowens964]

I’m a store owner and we’ve sold, STIHL (Greenworks), EGO, Greenworks and now Toro battery mowers. Hands down the best mower is the Toro. Greenworks and EGO are basically throw away units and the Stihl has the same jerky transmissions as other inferior battery units.

[@billrector]

What I don’t like about Stihl is that you must go to a dealer to buy spare parts. I want to be able to buy them online and have them in a day or two. Stihl dealers can take weeks!

[@baddriversofcolga]

Ego is the best out of them. Much more thoughtful design and extremely durable.

[@randomrazr]

@@baddriversofcolga dewalt make good mowerS?

[@FrostedFlake420]

Didn't take a store owner to tell me that

[@LL-mt2nz]

The Toro Super Recycler is by far a better mower than the Ego Select Cut. It feels more substantial

[@delbertmurphy3569]

Thanks for the detailed review. Trying to talk myself into purchasing the new 60v 21568. This video has convinced me to go ahead and get one ordered. Something worth noting in reference to the Personal Pace System vs other Manufacturers self propelled mowers is the ease of use without the need to push multiple buttons or squeeze any triggers. With Toro's Personal Pace, you grab the handle and go. I have arthritis as well as carpel tunnel and I've been mowing with a Toro Personal Pace for 23 Years without any issues. I have helped friends and Family from time to time and use their mowers only to end up with sore hands and forearms afterward. Looking forward to the same drive system on a lighter mower.

[@carllane6521]

Looks like a great mower, but I don't understand why they would get rid of the mulching handle for a plug. I also don't understand why they still haven't changed the old school height adjustment to the single lever that's so much easier to use. You should ask

[@mrmullin7]

You know, I think ironically the Super Recyclers have that plug. Some of the lower end regular Recyclers have the handle. I thought that maybe the plug gives a better seal for better mulching, and that’s why they do it.

[@mrmullin7]

The plug on my 3 year old gas Super Recycler is a way better design though. I should have mentioned that.

[@scooooter37]

I thought a single handle height adjustment would be cool, but the way my curbing is in relation to my lawns, I need the ability to adjust one side lower than the other.

[@andreyv1]

Its for consistency with their gas line. If it was a single handle adjustment parts like the wheels would be different

[@zmoclov21]

If you're talking about the Bag on Demand system, then the other replies are right, you're thinking about their 22" line. The Super Recyclers have always had a plug. Actually all of their product lines have a plug aside from the 22" line, so nothing was changed there.

[@gregfisher216]

I have the 2021 Toro plain jane version .I paid about 350.00 dollars for it. I bought the 7.5 Amp battery as the mower came with the 6 Amp . I have been using this machine for going on 2 years with no issues. It cuts a beautiful lawn and has plenty of power !

[@border411]

My Toro Super Recycler (gas model-bought 2 years ago) was the only lawnmower purchase I regretted. Inconsistent cut and hard to disengage the wheels to pull it backward. Immediately went and bought another Honda and couldn't be any happier.

[@UrbanDadLife2024]

"Feather the clutch" was my nickname in college...I like the look of the higher priced SR...I have the 2020 gas SR and I've loved every minute of it...

[@EvilDeadFan11]

i was hunting for one last year, and as you know it just wasn't happening. I couldn't find anything at any dealer at least here in Canada. I went with the 60V Recycler with vortex, it has that perforated air channel or whatever. Turns out I love it. My yard isn't giant and I can cut front and back with just enough left over to go over areas that needed extra attention.. custom height adjustments aren't the smoothest to learn, but my lawn at the street tapers down, so I have to higher on the outside not to scalp it.

[@rickmiller4971]

I liked your review of the Toro Super Recycler. I currently own a Ryobi cross cut. I did write an email to Toro and suggested they look at the Ryobi height adjustment, handle, and the lift handle which allows you to pick up the Ryobi mower with one hand since the weight fore and aft is balanced. I would like to mention two items that most reviews do not include. The first is cleaning out under the deck. The Toro you can use a hose to clear out the grass. This is really important in my few when the grass has dew on it. Most other battery mowers you will void your warranty if you do that. And Toro is one of the few that have an established service organization. Any Toro dealer will honor your warranty, which is 5 years on this mower. The Ryobi also has a 5 year warranty BUT try to find someone one that will honor it. Most Home Depots do not even look at them, they send them out to a service center probably in another state. They tell you it will take about 6 weeks to get it back. When I complained to customer service I was told they are allowed 90 days. Also, Ryobi will tell you they have independent service centers available in the area. Well, I contacted 5 of them in Michigan and they all said they stopped doing warranty work but would work on them for cash. I could only find one service location about 30 miles away who would honor the warranty but it would be at least 6 weeks before he could even look at it. Now maybe you won’t require warranty work. I would suggest you consider it before you buy it.

[@alexmussman6372]

Feathering a clutch is exactly what the personal pace does. These electric mowers do it exactly the same as the gas models. As you push onto the handle, it engages the belt being powered by the blade with the wheels transmission. It’s so simple and ingenious and they don’t need a motor for the wheels like most electric mowers have done which is what’s giving you that herky jerky.

[@plmn93]

Yep, simple and reliable. My 14 year old Super Recycler is still using its original belt. In fact everything on it still works like new.

[@PrincessCutLawnCare]

I usually don’t like product reviews but you can tell a heck of a story my friend 👍 👍

[@tarahamilton6295]

Yeah, good entertaining stuff. Informative in a batman kinda way and some funny quips. Nice work mate. Thanks from Australia.

[@plmn93]

I can't believe they screwed up their easy handle adjust and didn't improve the deck height or mulch plug at all. Not what I've come to expect from Toro. Not deal breakers for me, but details do matter, especially at this price.

[@TheLumberJacked]

It’s a suspension system type handle adjustment which is why it seems like a step backwards but after you adjust it’s done and the suspension for the handle is 100% worth it. So smooth now.

[@liutang]

I had an older EGO and it suffers from the same jerky transmission. It wasn't an enjoyable experience at all. I bought a Gen 1 22" 60V recycler and never looked back. The personal pace transmission is smooth and made the mow enjoyable. I still use the other EGO tools since I have the batteries for them. However, I will not go back to their mower. Also you must get the specific blades for the flex force. The normal Toro blades will chew through your battery. I wish they make a Flex Force Timemaster deck. I'd be all over that.

[@randomrazr]

have u tried the dewalt mower?

[@Hargak]

I believe the drive uses a belt drive like the gas version to pull power from the main motor. This is why the blades need to be running to engage. It is also why it feels like a clutch engagement. Pushing the handle is literally pushing an idler pulley (clutch) into the belt drive.

[@littlepoolefam3]

I love my Super Recycler (gas powered black model). I have an old beat up Recycler that I used on my weed lawn in my back yard, and when I switch over to my SR, it is so unbelievably easier to push. I really enjoy the mow when I am using that beast. Thanks for getting me hooked on my Toro SR, Allyn!

[@campbellpaul]

Smart of you to use separate mowers to avoid contaminating your turf grass with weed seed. That's gardener's sensibility, there!

[@littlepoolefam3]

@@campbellpaul It is funny you say that, as that is exactly why I do it, as well as keeping my good blades from being wrecked by the weeds. I even go as far to tell my wife and kids to stay off of the grass if they have recently walked in the back yard on my weed lawn...LOL!

[@littlepoolefam3]

@@campbellpaul OH....and where I live, weeds are freaking everywhere. Our property is next to and on top of orchards, if you could picture that, and the builders did not use any weed blockers during the process. Johnson's grass is our worst enemy in the weed family here. Look it up, if you haven't heard of it. It is almost demonic.

[@campbellpaul]

@@littlepoolefam3 Yeah, I have a grip of Toro mowers that I have been collecting the past 8 years... Various old '80s models that I found to be very tolerable to use as a teenager back when these types were new. I live in NM where the climate is very dry and these mowers are all very well preserved and would otherwise sit for months on Craigslist because nobody in my area knows what they are. I totally get you (and your enjoyment of the 2020 SR)

[@j3rocketeer]

Thank you LCN for all you do. I’ve learned a lifetime’s worth of lawn care stuff from you.

[@Dubiels]

This was super helpful bc my clutch cable is broken and you led me to buy a new belt bc the cable is right there and i don’t want to have to do the same job twice! With me luck. Thanks for the vid!!

[@Golddragon214]

I have the Toro model 21466 I picked up by directly ordering from Toro. It has adjustable points for the handle that make it easy to set the way you like it. The wheel adjusters are the same Toro PIA levers. I used it all last season and love it. So easy to care for and the battery last long enough I can mow my yard one and a half time on one charge. It came with only one blade and doesn't have a speed adjustment, but does have the sensor that will turn up the RPMs if the grass is thick. Now I need to replace my Snow Blower with an electric model.

[@djbone604]

6:42 😳😆😂 “was also my nickname in college” …….love the content on your channel. Greetings from the Pacific Northwest 🇨🇦

[@aubreya2641]

I bought their single stage snow blower with two batteries this year. I really like it and don't think I'll ever own a gas blower ever again. Having the two batteries would make this an easier purchase for me. I may have to consider going to a battery mower now knowing it actually works well.

[@anthonyvarano1143]

Man, I am sure glad that I got the 2021 model instead. This new ‘“redesign” looks like a major cost cutting design! I’ve been a toro fan for years, and Between last year and this year I have converted all my equipment to the 60 V line. Including 2021 supercycle 60 V model number 21338. And I love it!

[@CampJYME]

Hi did you mean the 21388?

[@anthonyvarano1143]

@@CampJYME yes

[@asha.of.antares]

Have you noticed any change in the self-propel after using it for 2.5 years? Does it seem to be harder to push? I love mine but wonder if I need a repair or adjustment now. Model 21388 2021 year, using the bag in back.

[@anthonyvarano1143]

No, not at all.

[@MichaelRei99]

No one does a more well thought out and entertaining review than you Allyn. But the only way I am using an electric mower is if big brother takes away my ability to use my gas one.

[@eddylee587]

Exactly! I'll never cave into the electric hype! It's like buying a over price electric car for 50,60,70K and only being able to drive 350-400 miles top! As the phrase goes, "Are You Kidding Me!" Sorry Allen. Gas all the way! No disrespect. Love your videos, helpful information and comical satire. Believe me. I get it! I'm not got though! Good job on always providing informative product videos. Love ya man!

[@Thelawncarenut]

ha ha! thanks! I actually like having both. I do prefer gas but at 8AM or 8PM the battery is certainly a nice alternative.

[@johnbiggins2105]

@@eddylee587 it's not hype. It's happening. It's better for the environment. Plus you can recycle batteries. Gas you cannot. Ihave battery for all of my tools...but for lawnmowers I prefer gas. I have a toro timemaster. For me it would be difficult to use battery for a mower. Blowers and weed whackers work well for batteries. Enjoy the mow!

[@avgjoearmedcitizen6421]

I used a blue big box 80V for a full season last year on .4 acres. I love to “push” mow. Some things broke on the wheel axle that can’t be replaced, I was refunded. I will never go to electric again. I now have a 30” personal pace Toro, bought it late fall, and now life is good. Electric doesn’t provide the torque to get a “lift” on the turf blades.

[@petunias4442]

I'm glad I grabbed the 2021 60v SR. The new one doesn't have a side discharge either (I think you have to order a separate part that goes in the back like my 60v Vortex model). I like to use it sometimes when I double cut. Would have been nice if they put the open/close lever on it like the other models, but I normally just leave the mulch plug in for that one. The battery handles my 3200 sq ft with juice to spare. The SR shock absorbers are awesome! I have a slightly bumpy Fescue lawn and I can really feel the difference between the Vortex and the SR. The 4.25 hoc option is nice during July and August here. Personal Pace has me completely spoiled and contributes greatly to my mowing Zen. : ) For me and my first lawn mowers, and my first time ever mowing experience...I really love both of my Toros.

[@Thelawncarenut]

yes very good point on that side discharge - I forgot to mention that but I do believe some people will not be happy about it lol.

[@isellu]

Excellent video. Your graphics, soundtrack and video quality separate you from the guys who just put an unfocused GoPro on a cardboard box and talk too much. Your humor and concise review are icing on the cake. Most people generally have no idea how long it takes to shoot and edit a video like this. Thanks for posting it. Well done!

[@dgw80222]

I've converted most of my lawn tools to battery. But I just can't make the switch on my mower. I have a Honda HRX and I love it too much to switch. I did try the EGO from a neighbor and I had the same issue with the drive system. Very jerky and it wouldn't roll backwards sometimes unless I made it go forward and then the wheels would free spin. Very annoying!

[@phreenet]

Review the Milwaukee M18 mower when you can. That thing looks amazing, specs wise.

[@steffen707-]

A side by side with toro VS m18 would be nice. I just got the m18, so far so good. The thumb paddles are kinda stupid, but come in really handy at the end of a run where you're tight to something, you can stand to the side and just blip the thumb bar and get it to move so you can then stand behind it again.

[@bevans5611]

M18 seems cool but holy crap is it expensive. I’m deep in the M18 line already and that one is a bit far.

[@alan30189]

He probably doesn’t want to part with $1,000 to get the thing, though. 😖

[@kitdisjointed]

Have the 2021 60V SR model 21388. The mow height goes up to 4.25” on that model. I think it uses the usual SR deck and toro just popped in a battery. This newer one has the “side discharge” on the back.

[@richardharwell]

Bought a Super Recycler with blade stop for my daughter and Son in law last year . I really liked the personal pace, and the blade stop when moving across gravel areas .

[@Thelawncarenut]

I agree, blade stop is a super sweet option. Especially for me when I have to move cameras around all the time I can keep it running and not have to restart.

[@sbukosky]

Improvements in one area at the cost of features in another. I'm going on my third season with my 60V super mulcher. I bought it over the Ego mainly due to the easy change from mulch to bagging. Also the handle adjustment is easy, no tools needed. The personal pace feature is ok, but I miss my MTD that I could set the speed and it would assist me going up my sloped front yard. That is a plus for me with the Ego. Later in the fall, I bought the big Ego snowblower (and love it). So, if the battery must be replaced in my Toro, I very well may buy an Ego as I find the 6.0 amp battery often isn't large enough to finish my little city sized lawn. I had bought a Toro 60V leaf blower just to get the battery but it had some annoying features and the charger fan failed so decided to return it and bought the Ego blower. So, having three Ego batteries versus one old Toro battery makes the economics the choice in brand.

[@flch95]

I like idea of battery mowers but just can’t pull the trigger on one.

[@jamesfrench7299]

I have two 2 Stroke mowers that are known as the Victa Vortex here inv Australia. One is from 1984 and the other 1985. They mow beautifully but are push only on ball bearing wheels. I have recently repainted both.

[@raresr4092]

I'm with you there. Can't beat the gas mowers if you take care of them and you don't have to wait for something to charge and buy an expensive battery in the future. takes less time to just add gas then charge a battery ;)

[@jamesfrench7299]

@@raresr4092 these things can take serious neglect and keep on ticking so long as you don't straight fuel them.

[@slsmusic8106]

Shout out to LCN, I see you still rockin the 2 pairs of glasses, lol. I’ve been following LCN lawn program for 2 years and I have THE best looking St Augustine grass on the block. Listen to Allen, you WILL get the results your looking for. Great video as usual. 👍🏽

[@Thelawncarenut]

thank you!! gotta have double shades because I'm so bright!! ha ha!

[@richards5843]

The big wheel in the back help keep the bounce down when some lawns are bumpy. I have two toros one with the four small wheels and one with two bigger wheels in the back and the one with the bigger wheels in the back does pushes smoother.

[@papi828282]

I bought my gas super recycler a month ago. Love the way it cuts.

[@natebolton9385]

can't wait to check this out. new mower really is a must buy this year and given it's complementary to my tractor, mostly for cutting in smaller/tighter areas, a battery powered unit is on my radar.

[@eagler8196]

Battery power is ridiculously expensive just to keep up with working batteries...

[@alexrios8991]

I’ll stick with my 2020 super recycler w/ Honda engine. Very interesting review though!

[@bobfredericks6545]

Saw this video after I just ordered this model Toro E mower yesterday. Keeping my fingers crossed since I love all my previous Toro Super Cyclers. Thanks for the great video.

[@bobfredericks6545]

I month review of or new Toro E. Cheaper built than 2 yr old gas mower. Much cheaper. Cutting is good. Mulches very good. Surprisingly good. Problem is I only get 38 minutes on average of battery life. Can’t cut our 1/4 lawn SUCKS. $70o+ and can’t cut my entire lawn. Toro blew it on this engineering nightmare.

[@rickymcgrath2314]

To overcome the “jerkiness” you manually push the mower a hair while the electric drive kicks in similar to what you’re doing with the Toro. The action is different but the concept is the same. You’re pushing forward, manually moving the mower while the self propel feature is kicking in. 🤷‍♂️

[@Thelawncarenut]

Yes I agree but I prefer a more "leisurely" mow rather than an "active" one where I have to be involved that much. I tried to illustrate it on video by exaggerating a bit but it's for sure something I can feel the difference and I don't like it much. 💁

[@rickymcgrath2314]

@@Thelawncarenut I know exactly what you’re talking about. It was an issue for me when I switched to my first EGO MOWER. But since I’ve upgraded to the latest Ego Select Cut, recognized the issue and adjusted my technique

[@FIUPanther305]

@@Thelawncarenut the personal pace Toro has spoiled me, I can't stand any of the thumb activated self propel systems now. I had a Honda, blew the drive shaft running over a pipe years ago and went with a Toro Recycler due to your videos back in 2014-15. I ordered a Milwaukee mower a few weeks ago and used it for a few cuts, returned that one too. I can't get away from that personal pace, it makes mowing a lot more enjoyable.

[@randomrazr]

@@FIUPanther305 dewalt good mower?

[@victoryvisiontour]

Personal Pace trumps all other features on any other mower. Navigating around obstacles is so easy and it automatically disengages when I pull backwards. It's also 2 wheel drive instead of 1 wheel drive on other electric mowers. One wheel drive tends to pull to one side and gets stuck easy on uneven terrain. If the grass is even barely wet, one wheel drive spins on the slightest hill. Personal Pace is an absolute must-have on a mower for me.

[@aaronkoeppe9057]

Just bought an 80v 21" greenworks mower a few weeks ago and love it. i have an 80v trimmer and blower coming in soon

[@zeroibis]

What I love, more height adjustment levels. What I hate, the mulch plug and smaller bag.

[@jasonb8081]

I love the battery blowers, trimmers and edgers. I will sticking with my time master till it dies. Absolutely love it. Just don't think technology and quality there yet.

[@josephpuchel6497]

Hey Toro need to upgrade to the easy one handle wheel height adjuster before coming out with one having a worthless headlight. Nice video

[@dhanipersaud6227]

I am the only person that has a use case, where I set the wheels on one side of the mower higher then the other? I have a lawn with high cement curbs and sidewalk, I set the wheels low on one side and high on the other, I put the low side wheels on the cement, and this keeps the deck level. This allows a more level cut between the curb and sidewalk without having to go back with trimmer. If you loose the individual wheel height adjustment you loose out on some flexibility. However, I understand that most people do not care or have a use case for that flexibility in controlling deck height.

[@jeffwright9431]

My 80volt Greenworks has a very annoying lag before the drive engages. It is smooth when it finally engages but when you reverse direction you soon learn to anticipate the lag and begin the engagement half way through your turn. Otherwise it is a great machine and I really enjoy cutting the lawn with an electric mower.

[@MysticBakura]

did you see/review the Milwaukee M18 lawn mower?

[@DanTheLawnMan]

the hesitation on the "other" mower is made to give you time to yell, YEEHAW!!!! and then go 😂

[@sambutera3898]

Look like a good mower but I went to reel mowing. so I will kept my gas super recycler for the back yard

[@troyhough]

Thanks Mr Allyn! How about also doing the new Milwaukee and EGO XP Model!!?!?

[@acesghost]

For the mulch plug, you always have to push in that little dip in the center, and it’s easier if you do so from a lower angle (crouched) with your fingers holding the inside of the mulch plug from the top for better grip. It gets easier the more you do it.

[@LL-mt2nz]

I just press the tab with one finger and it pops out

[@bobleone1381]

I purchased the original version last year. 60Volt, 7.5ah battery just like your. Biggest wast of money I ever spent. I cut my Tall Fescue at 4 inches. This unit could not do the job. The grass is very think and the self propelled function absolutely sucked........wound up pushing it 80% of the time. Also the cut was the worst cut of any mower I ever owned. Stragglers all over the lawn. One day I cut it three times in all different directions and it still had uneven grass. Just absolutely terrible. I took it in for service and they said nothing was wrong with the unit. We then called Toro their advice was to cut the grass lower to help improve suction. One, its tall fescue, you don't cut it lower in the heat of the summer......it won't survive. two, if you cut lower, the self propelled function would struggle even more. I went out and purchased a Hustler Dash. It does a great job on my quarter acre lawn. The Toro sits in the garage.....not getting used.

[@triton4395]

I noticed that at 2:12 when you started the mower it did not move until you engaged the personal pace handle. When you made the adjustment to the cable your personal pace handle is engaged all the time so the mower moves when started. I would relax it a bit and see if that helps. Keep them coming... Thanks.

[@davidwho7847]

Great video! Thank you. Being an ex street rodder, the term "feathering" was correct in my day.

[@hgone7221]

$800.00 for a battery powered mower?! NOOO! Great review Sir!👏

[@saliston]

Read the manual the plug is super easy to remove and replace.

[@LL-mt2nz]

Just push the tab in and it pops out. Half of these KZbinrs make it a big show

[@nickevers4016]

Thanks just bought a super recycler vortex gas and I am a smidge shorter than yourself and was wanting to lower the height! Though after reading the manual I did not see the images you showed so maybe something toro needs to add.

[@dpd136]

I just purchased last years 60v SR kit for $400 because I couldn’t imagine this one being $400 better in cut quality. Hope I’m not wrong lol, I haven’t had the chance to use it yet since it’s just hitting spring here.

[@LlyleHunter]

You’re not wrong. I bought mine in the first year that they were offered and the only year they offered them with a non self propelled model which is what I wanted because it’s twice as reliable. You can always buy whatever Toro blade suits needs best. I buy four new blades a year here in Florida. They aren’t costly.

[@robbiegolding1831]

Did the Vortex make any difference? The mulch plug looks like a major miss. Can you ask Toro why the standard Recycler has the built in mulch door and this has the cheapest set up I've ever seen. For a $700 mower that's laughable.

[@Thelawncarenut]

I didn't mention the Vortex and I probably should have. I look at it and you can see where it tunnels underneath the deck but as far as if it does anything I have no way of knowing really.

[@jmars807]

The instrumentals and scenery was awesome

[@puregreenelawncare4500]

When the mower revs up it sounds that the blizzard machine at Dairy Queen.

[@magarity12]

Got an EGO last year and happy with it. Sounds like there is a striping kit now that will fit it. That is what I was really missing coming from the Toro SR and always striped.

[@brandons5488]

I enjoy watching your reviews, I appreciate all the info on lawn mowers!

[@NextLevelLawnCare]

i picked up the 60v super recycler last year, i love mine! and it handles the striping kit from check mate just fine.

[@minaung5231]

Have you noticed any reduction in battery life hauling the checkmate behind it?

[@deltagamma82]

It's 2022. Toro of all companies shouldn't be behind the curve when it comes to "creature comforts" that folks like Ego and Greenworks offer for similar money. But watch out for that NEW new model.. it's got headlights! Cool......

[@Agent77X]

Great color - Black with vortex! The best lawnmower in the world!

[@tractioncontroloff9796]

I used my buddy’s Milwaukee and it cuts nicer than my gas Toro SR. I also have all Milwaukee power tools which is a big advantage. The build quality of the Milwaukee is second to none. The price is up there as well though.

[@jmaus2k]

That performance mode is needed for leaves and debris(I know it speeds up with load, but you want it fast before it hits leaves). Toro did that right. I put 2 blades on my Ego to trick it into high mode all the time. Why not a single height adjust, handle adjust, move without blade, or proper mulch plug. Too expensive when other brands include it.

[@chuckm8472]

I just ordered one based on your review and finally found one in stock. I tried the regular 60 volt recycler and also living in Florida and having thick St.Agastine grass I was not happy with the cut quality as much as I liked it overall I returned it. With this one having a choice of blades and being able to run it on max power I hope it will be as good as my gas toro. Thank you for in depth review on these and looking forward to receiving mine.

[@mellowjammer]

So how did it compare to the regular recycler?

[@quentinreynhout855]

I just bought the 2022 Toro Super Recycler with the 8.25 hp Briggs and Stratton engine. I live in Dyer Indiana so it will be a couple of weeks till I can try it out I will give a review so you can know if the gasoline engine is any better.

[@ggpack8190]

Ya I’am a mowing guy and the ego is a total beast and TWO BLADES are better than one and it packs away fast .

[@markchase8128]

I just picked up a Toro #21564 Super Recycler, 190CC. Yet to mow, should be this weekend. Sounds like a boss though, push button start. I just wish they made this with spin-stop feature instead of electric start. Useful for when bagging. I usually mulch most of the year and keep 3.5 - 4" HOC.

[@quentinreynhout855]

I just mowed with my new 2022 Super Recycler 21564 even though it's 40 degrees in northwest Indiana I was able to enjoy the mow you will love you mower too.

[@conner5611]

The smooth take off is because the transmission is belt driven instead of having a seprate motor like other electric mowers

[@cxhatchboy520]

Exactly, the motor is already spinning like a gasoline-powered mower and operates in the same way.

[@MJorgy5]

Personal Pace is awesome when it's working and well-tuned.

[@kelkev85]

Thanks for the review, I do agree the self propel is jerky on the GW and the fact that you can’t use it without engaging the blades of the toro isn’t great but imo these mowers are so light you can easily get around both those problems. On the green works as you come into a turn around you just get off the self propel until you complete the turn, start pushing the roll on the self propel, no sudden jerk with this technique and with the toro when your in transit mode you just push it without self propel. I used an ego mower commercially and to conserve battery I never used the self propel I just simple pushed it. Now I understand these mowers come with self propel and therefor it should work well but I would mention in your reviews how easy it is to push them and how for some people these issues shouldn’t be a deal breaker.

[@garynelson4485]

I purchased the Greenworks Pro 80v with dual 4amp batteries and dual ports to replace my 6 year old Kobalt 80v (made by Greenworks). I'm very happy with my new Greenworks! It's extremely powerful ad very easy to use. It seems much more solid than the old Kobalt, mostly due to the new aluminum handle design, I think. I paid $560 during the "Presidents' Day" sale, which is awesome. Today I'd probably by the 60v equivalent at Home depot for $479. I do like the aluminum deck of the Super Recycler, but it's disappointing that they eliminated the mulching/bagging selector; that was a great feature of Toro and Honda mowers. But the lack of a single lever hight adjustment is, for me, a deal killer.

[@kevinsuarez6355]

Why would you buy the 60v instead? I am currently torn between the 80v and 60v due to the quantity of tools on the platforms.

[@mellowjammer]

I also adjusted the personal pace cable on mine so that you barely touch it and the mower moves (like you seem to have done). But that still didn't solve the problem of feeling that I had to push too much to get the full speed out of the mower. What I discovered is that IF I TOOK ONE TURN OUT OF THE SPRING that pushes back on the personal pace handle, the mower worked MUCH better and I didn't have to push so hard to get the speed out of it that I was missing. Much more effortless mowing. I was able to adjust the cable back to a more "normal" position similar to where it was originally.

[@asha.of.antares]

Mine was fine and then recently seems harder to push with the 21388 self propelled. Where was the adjustment made? I will check it out.

[@mellowjammer]

@@asha.of.antares Push the personal pace handle and look underneath as you do it. You will see a coiled spring that is pushing back against you as you push further on the handle. I removed one end of the spring and allowed it to uncoil 1 revolution around the handle and then re-attached the end of the spring. This allowed me to get the mower moving without having to push the Personal pace handle so hard. It works perfectly now. But have been incorrectly assembled at the factory.

[@thekaduu]

I am an engineer... They could have done that feathering-in (acceleration/deceleration) for the green mower, they just didn't care...

[@WingHouseCup]

I'll adopt this technology when it does something better than a regular gas mower. lol

[@mainnerd2222]

"What the freak?!" That cracked me up because that is me, but rated "R". I get that way with a lot of my "projects" and things I need to fix. And my wife knows it. Last week I had to replace our water heater expansion tank and our water pressure regulator, and as I was getting my tools ready and everything set, I see my wife walking out, dressed up with, and my son in her arms. I asked her "where are you going?" she said "We are going to get lunch and then to the park. Text us when you're done. We don't want to be around for the swearing." You just reminded me that I may not be the only one out there. I need more patience.

[@richardwalther6229]

The creature comforts are exactly the same on the Kobalt and Greenworks. This has me really on the fence now that you show that the much more expensive Toro doesn’t do this well at all. Only advantage to the Toro is Personal Pace. But I’m not sure that’s worth $400-ish up charge. I’ve used the self propelled without engaging blades on Kobalt, and it’s very nice. Wow, lots to consider.

[@LL-mt2nz]

I looked at all battery mowers. The Toro Super Recycler delivers the best cut quality and bagging performance bar none. It handles exceptionally well. Grass barely sticks to the aluminum deck. You can use a hose to clean the deck. If you think of getting an electric snowblower, then that’s another reason to purchase a SR. It comes with a 7.5 ah battery that can be used as your spare snowblower battery.

[@Zelig2Cents]

Your videos are great! You have a GREAT sense of humor and I don't understand why more folks don't have one. I got the EGO and returned it, a little because the build quality made me nervous, but mostly because their solution for powering the wheels with discrete power levels, most of which I'd never use, was as unnatural as it could be. I also really appreciate you digging into the distinction between the recycling Toro's and the super-recycling versions. Without having hands-on experience, it's so hard to know whether those terms are mere marketing b.s. or if there's a difference that warrants the extra expense, so thanks again for that! What cigars are your favorite? I hardly ever get enough down time to enjoy a 2 to 4 hour cigar, despite how much cooler the smoke is, but I do love a shorter torpedo shape and something like those nub cigars can be the perfect size for a little downtime. All the best to you!

[@TreatsOnTheStreets]

Speaking to the electric mowers jerking, the newer EGO ones ramp up pretty smooth but are a bit too slow of a ramp. They also have that awful delay after grabbing the handle for it go to. Been waiting for a legit mower brand like Toro to release a really good mower like this one. For how expensive it is I am however disappointed it doesn't allow movement without the blades running and that the height adjustment is still a pain. It's the biggest thing that bothers me about my current super recycler. Still not enough of an upgrade on this 60v to convince me to upgrade. I love how electric lawn equipment let's you smell more of the grass and less of the gas but without better functionality I can't justify the price when what I've got works so well.

[@zmoclov21]

I HATED my EGO simply for that reason too! Every time you do a pass and then turn around to start the next pass it'd have to wait a second before the traction kicks in and I would run right into my mower every time. So annoying. The toro uses a mechanical system unlike the EGO so it driven off the blade shaft with a belt so this isn't a factor, but the reason for not being able to use it when the blades aren't on. The EGO also had a really flimsy suspension due to the 1point height of cut system so much that every time I'd take off the unit would raise up a 1/4-1/2" and you could see it in the grass. The 4-point does not do that. Plus I hated not being able to rake the unit by putting the front wheels higher than the rear for mulching leaves in the fall. That was one of my other big annoyances with the EGO. I'd have to just raise up the front end and balancing it on the rear wheels which got old quick..

[@randomrazr]

@@zmoclov21 which would u reocmend, toro or ego

[@zmoclov21]

@@randomrazr I would say Toro's 22" line would be a better comparison to the ego. This Toro SR5 is in a whole league of it's own. If I was comparing the Toro 22" 60V, the traction system on the Toro is far and wide better than the ego. The ego might have a slight nod on battery life, but the quality of cut goes to the Toro, so I'd say Toro. But again if you're comparing the SR5 to the ego it's SR5 all day hands down. And definitely not the DeWalt. The tool battery mowers aren't the answer. The smaller batteries meant for hand tools just don't have the strength in their internals, so it doesn't matter how many of them you can put in at once. The idea is there, but the limiting factor of the battery will always be there too.

[@randomrazr]

@@zmoclov21 is Dewalt performance bad? Only reason dealt is only my list is I have a few 12 amp flex volt batteries

[@zmoclov21]

​@@randomrazr Haven't tried with those batteries personally. Those larger batteries may be more robust, but I generally stay away from all tool battery mowers based on past experience. They easily over heat due to the mentioned weaker internals (which is by design bc hand tools just don't need anything more to complete their tasks, so if they did it would be unnecessary and would also drive cost up) and when they overheat the controller protection will kick in and shut off the mower until the batteries cool down to certain temp. But that aside, the Dewalt mower is on an even lower league than the Toro 22" line and the ego, let alone the SR5.

[@justincro7146]

Your grass is Immaculate

[@KingArtexerxes]

I have a 4 yr old Toro Super Recycler with blade brake. It’s fine, except if I wash it underneath by spraying with a hose, the parts will rust out and break. Or when I mulch or bag leaves, something goes wrong underneath. Belts break, and this fall the drive belt came halfway off and smokes when it’s running. I can’t get to it to even put it back on. So another trip to the repair shop. An annual trip, so far. I’m ready for a new mower already, but don’t know what to buy. Your yard seems to be free from the mass of leaves I get.

[@GregsMowing]

Most dedicated cordless mowers have electric gearbox like the greenworks. That’s why it can drive without having the blade going. Where toros and others with a normal gearbox need the blade spinning as the crank from the motor spins the belts like petrol.

[@pevelyhomeowner327]

Nice review. Try Ryan’s trick of adjusting front and rear wheels at different heights to get middle adjustment too. Lol 😆

[@matthewegreen1]

Ok… dumping an old heavy “craftsman gas 22” this year looking for new mower. I have small yard with around 4000 sq ft grass. Like to easily adjust mower height, some inclines in the yard so powering up inclines efficiently would me nice. Not sure on gas or battery… this new design seems not well cooked yet. What would ya recommend ?

[@kitbui2824]

Not sure if it works for the Toro but on my electic lawn mower, you can activate the self propeller by holding down the lever and pushing it forward even when the mower is off

[@ETC_RAMZ_]

Hoping to see some project lawns or lawn renovations sometime soon. Love seeing you tackle a project and show us how to make great lawn out of something that is in desperate need of love and care.

[@josephfusca6552]

The new EGO Select Cut Speed IQ dominates the Toro Vortex in every category. I’d get the EGO

[@robm3063]

I think if you were to look under both the gas and 60v you will see the same operating system going on. The transmission is run via belt the same way on both Toros.

[@billtreamer6420]

All mowers should be single handle height adjustment. My 14 year old Snapper has it.

[@ToddS50]

That handle height is an issue, got this for my mom who can't start the gas mower anymore... can't get the mower handle as low as her old Toro Recyclee it replaced. Going to see if some new rubber stops at the handle spot helps get another 2 inches down. always enjoy your reviews :)

[@johnfetter3252]

Think I'll keep my 5 year old Timemaster another year.

[@WhittyPics]

After dealing with a couple of bad gas powered mowers I caught a Kobalt 80v on model clearance for less than 1/2 price. I don't miss dealing with getting gas and hoping the damn thing will start. It cuts pretty good. The run time is about 30 minutes on a battery.

[@WhittyPics]

The Toro I had was built with a lot of plastic crap that constantly broke and that personal pace handle broke on mine. I didn't use mine 2 seasons before I gave it to goodwill.

[@joshcfishing1621]

The electronic mower mechanical bull ride was hilarious

[@mrmikeinveniceflorida]

I enjoy your channel. And I’ve been watching the battery stuff coming out because I do lawn care south of you and I know my customers are looking forward to me switching over to battery equipment

[@Thelawncarenut]

It's a really exciting field when you look at it on the commercial side - alot of advantages. If I was to go into commercial lawn care I'd go battery from the jump.

[@JBK63]

Over the years reviewers have gotten into every imaginable fine point of regular gasoline mowers with metal decks and often been critical for any perceived shortfalls in design or build quality. It’s amazing to me that people are willing to put up with such obvious flaws in these plastic battery powered mowers and none of them get into the electronics in terms of control, the brushless motor and the issues of battery failure. A good commercial lawnmower can last more than 30 or 40 years with relatively minimal maintenance and upkeep costs! These batteries have no longevity and are very expensive to replace. It’s like buying the lawnmower over and over again! And through all those battery replacements does anybody think that the motor is going to last a very long time let alone all the other control parts. It’s ridiculous. None of the stuff that’s out there at the moment is made for the long term and a lot of it is made in China.

[@rogersemple4105]

Exactly right to the point and 100 percent correct.They are just toys.

[@mplslawnguy3389]

This whole push towards electric everything just blows my mind. From cars, to mowers, to other equipment, they're not practical in any sense. I feel like it's beating a dead horse at this point, but all energy comes from somewhere. Electricity is not produced out of thin air, and the materials for these batteries are extremely costly and toxic to the environment, when mining them and disposing of them. We're being ruled by virtue-signaling idiots that have no concept of the real world. In other words, nerds that may be smart, but have no grasp of the way the world works and lack any kind of practical knowledge.

[@plmn93]

Battery mowers are not a good value and their environmental impact is questionable. However they are a lot quieter and require less maintenance. Those are compelling reasons to buy them. As somebody with a gas Super Recycler that is 14 years old and still working like new, if I did decide to go electric, this is the one I'd buy because I am confident that everything but the motor will easily last 20+ years. The motor may too but who knows how many batteries it will go through by then. And with the way this is designed, replacing the motor if necessary should not be a big deal.

[@billrector]

I have a 24 year old Toro and just spent $30 to get it running like new. I’ll keep this till it dies in another 20 years.

[@mplslawnguy3389]

@@billrector Seriously. Lawnmowers are so cheap to fix and maintain. I can’t tell you how many dead batteries from power tools I have in the garage. How long do you think a lawnmower battery is going to last when you’re mowing in the heat of the summer twice a week. They’re plastic toy crap.