NEW Air Venturi Avenge - X (FACTORY INTERVIEW) Regulated PCP Airgun, Modular Rifle - SHOT Show 2023

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This video is a SHOT Show 2023, Air Venturi factory interview with Air Venturi Product Manager Tyler Patner, in which we discuss at length the NEW "Avenge X" regulated PCP airgun, modular air rifle. This Air Venturi Avenge X video discussion will include in-depth details about the NEW Avenge X Classic Synthetic, Tactical, Classic Wood, Bullpup Wood, PCP model airguns... in both "210cc Tube" and "390cc Bottle" Versions, and in the pellet/slug calibers of .177, .22, and .25.
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@michaelb.42112
@michaelb.42112 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve ! You deliver, AS ALWAYS !!! Airgunning has really come into its own now. What a great time to be into this sport !! It's SO much fun.
@michaelb.42112
@michaelb.42112 Жыл бұрын
I don't know KZbin etiquette, so thanks for the pin.
@Swamp-Fox
@Swamp-Fox Жыл бұрын
The Avenge-X is slick! Can't wait to see you do a full review. Tyler does a great job as the Air Venturi PM!
@airguns_rc
@airguns_rc Жыл бұрын
I bought my dad the Avenger wood stock version in .22 caliber for his first PCP. I put on it a Hawke Vantage 2-7 X 32mm, scope, Hawke Extra High Tactical Mounts, Donny FL Tanto with the adapter, extra magazines, and it is shooting the 18.13 grain JSB Diabolo lights out at 50 yards. He loves it. Nice video Steve and Tyler is helpful as always and informative.
@WiscAirGunners
@WiscAirGunners Жыл бұрын
Great content as always. Thanks to both of you for taking the time!
@iantouzel638
@iantouzel638 Жыл бұрын
When a rep knows what is talking about and Steve asking the good questions, you know you watch the video for a good reason. cheers from Canada, hope we can get the Avenger X here.
@matthewphelps5136
@matthewphelps5136 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely LOVE my Avenger. Thing doesn't miss.
@stevengoodman3498
@stevengoodman3498 Жыл бұрын
Love mine as well. It's an absolute tack driver! Mine is the bullpup 25 cal.
@DirtyDibs
@DirtyDibs Жыл бұрын
So glad to see this more in depth video of the new avenge-X!!!
@shaneweightman
@shaneweightman Жыл бұрын
I gave a like and hit the thumbs up in the first 5 seconds , before watching the video on the basis that I always enjoy them and find them very informative, cheers shane uk 🇬🇧
@visamedic
@visamedic Жыл бұрын
I own the Gauntlet 1 and Avenger, both in .25 cal. I bought the Gauntlet first. This was my intro into airgunning. I’ve owned over 300 powder burners in the last 32 yrs. I’ve taught shooting and safety. I’m no sniper, I don’t shoot competition, but I’m about a step away from that with rimfires and not too far behind with center fires. That being said, I know how to shoot. I loved the Gauntlet. Very accurate, but bummed about no side lever. Bought the Avenger three months later, and as much as I love both guns for the same and different reasons, if I’d bought the Avenger first I probably would not have bought the Gauntlet. Love that gun. I’ve recently dropped in a Buckrail tactical stock, and upgraded the plenum. Will be upgrading to a carbon tank in a few months. This is becoming the 10-22 of air rifles, that are DEFINITELY worth upgrading. One little suggestion….MAKE THE DAMN THING IN .30 before I have to buy the Gauntlet!!! Im goin broke bro!
@AirVelocitySport
@AirVelocitySport Жыл бұрын
Very informative video on the Avenge X, Bravo! Everything you need to know to make an educated purchase.
@chrisreilly4006
@chrisreilly4006 Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Steve your videos are always the best. I have been contemplating on what my next air gun purchase will be. I almost bought the wood stock Avenger but now… This is definitely a must have. It has everything I’ve been looking for in an air gun that doesn’t cost $1,500-$2,000 dollars give or take. The whole idea of being able to switch the cocking lever is just awesome to me. I’ve been wanting a gun I can shoot right handed and cock with my left hand instead of taking my hands off my grip and trigger. Awesome review! I can’t wait to see you review this gun!
@dennisshaffer4179
@dennisshaffer4179 Жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for the full tune review adding it to my list of must own
@giovannim5101
@giovannim5101 Жыл бұрын
Steve i hope you stop at JTS Booth because i am so impressed with their air rifles they shoot great especially the standard with the power adjuster ...
@bigearl8687
@bigearl8687 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, hope he does & the hatsan booth, that 35cal look nice
@AEAC
@AEAC Жыл бұрын
I didn't make it to JTS, so sorry - no invitation was extended. Best, Steve
@AEAC
@AEAC Жыл бұрын
@@bigearl8687 I did make it to Hatsan and Cecil and I filmed for like an hour, lol. That video will be pretty epic 🙂 Steve.
@bigearl8687
@bigearl8687 Жыл бұрын
@@AEAC I'll be watching, they always go into depth with it comes to you and your always asking what 95% of us what to know, thanks
@heithwatkins
@heithwatkins Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the AEAC VLOG AND REVIEW.............🎯👍💯❤
@TheManic.5-OH
@TheManic.5-OH Жыл бұрын
Steve I am SOLD! Thanks for the video man!
@gmanneod8085
@gmanneod8085 Жыл бұрын
Great thorough coverage Steve! Your experienced and time in the sport shines through in your interviews! It is so nice to see the Avenge X getting back to the origins of this rifle and a one piece aluminum block back in the ATI days. No doubt there has probably been some improvements. Steve, with the transfer port adjustment is this the Aspen breech block with a regulator and gauge added? Love all the new products. Thanks for a great job!
@AEAC
@AEAC Жыл бұрын
Hi and thanks! I'm honestly not sure what the origins of the breech block are. I believe it's their same builder so could be, but Tyler said "all new" so who knows. Steve
@jlsol
@jlsol Жыл бұрын
Wow the AvengeX is AWSOME thanks Tyler for listening to the consumers and great interview Steve!!!
@JC-ru3mo
@JC-ru3mo Жыл бұрын
Steve’s videos are always top notch. I’m excited about the new products. Thanks for all the hard work Steve and Tyler . 👍🏻😎👍🏻
@michaelb.42112
@michaelb.42112 Жыл бұрын
Steve is the best !
@chuckles3079
@chuckles3079 Жыл бұрын
I recently started looking into PCP guns and was thinking of getting the Avenger, until I saw this video. Now I cannot wait for the Avenge X to come out since I love the thought of having one gun that can be modified in so many ways. I hope a newer video comes out showing it's accuracy, and actual functions.
@jeffw4942
@jeffw4942 Жыл бұрын
My God. Tyler sure knows this air rifle. Listening to him is way better than hearing the general sales info. He has the real-world facts. Can't wait for you test this on your channel. Glad I stopped here to watch this. Thanks
@scottmatchell6247
@scottmatchell6247 Жыл бұрын
I got the .25 plus the .177 and .22 barrels, when you tune this, if possible, is there a tune that goes from .25,.22.177? Out of the box, zero the .25 at 35 yards, change to.22 then 5 shots at 35 yards, then the .177 5 shots at 35 yards...high and low on all of them.
@Dirtstroyer
@Dirtstroyer 5 ай бұрын
I'm really disappointed with the prices in Europe...was looking for Avenge-x and you can't get it below 675€ for standard model shipping not included. You could at least do it for 499€ as advertised. I think I will go for different brand now just because of this steal to EU buyers
@SamuraiGMA
@SamuraiGMA 11 ай бұрын
Hello Steve, greetings from CostaRica, since you had all the models in hand, which one do you prefer between the classic stock Avenger or the tactical one?
@stevengoodman3498
@stevengoodman3498 Жыл бұрын
Tyler knows every detail about this new version. They are going to sell a ton of these rifles due to the success of the original Avenger series. Can't wait for the reviews to start and see some real world benchmarks. Very exciting times to be an airgunner! Have to sell a kidney to get one, lol.
@yukonjack.
@yukonjack. Жыл бұрын
💰💸That's why they won't sell as many as the orig, + they remind me of an ugly fat chick I knew in HS, hard to beat the orig wood version, new one resembles a win-o bottle stckin out,😆maybe in time it'll make me feel warm an fuzzy?? (Compromise I get it.) ✌️
@bryancunningham1095
@bryancunningham1095 Жыл бұрын
Steve great video, can I fill the new avenger x with the bottle with the nomad II, or will it take more than 15 minutes, also rate your produces using duty cycle its more standardized telling us how much on time we can use vs how much rest time.
@Cincymike1
@Cincymike1 Жыл бұрын
Haven't seen a vid of urs in a while. Glad u covered the avenge x. Alot more detail and pics than the other vids
@AEAC
@AEAC Жыл бұрын
I've released 4 big ones within four months before this one... did they not find you? (Diana Germany Factory Tour video, FX Sweden Factory Tour video Part 2, Barra 400E Full Review, Barra 400E Factory Q&A). If you didn't get the above 4 notifications, ensure that your "notification bell" is activated in addition to being subscribed. Also, you can just stop by and mash the "Videos" tab here 🙂.
@scottmatchell6247
@scottmatchell6247 Жыл бұрын
I'm not getting this until you have a review and a tuning guide for all calibers
@scottmatchell6247
@scottmatchell6247 Жыл бұрын
What scope do you recommend? Just ordered the avenge x . I have a pinty.
@joenic4303
@joenic4303 Жыл бұрын
I just bought the avenger x. Im going to make an ebony stock if not some other wood. I may try to make a folding stock.
@FloridaRaider
@FloridaRaider Жыл бұрын
Thank you.. a lot of gun for the price. I appreciate the value proposition.
@earlkoropatnick1928
@earlkoropatnick1928 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great video
@exmcairgunner
@exmcairgunner Жыл бұрын
Air Venturi hits a home run with the “X”
@carfvallrightsreservedwith6649
@carfvallrightsreservedwith6649 Жыл бұрын
At around a $1,000+ with my .25 Avenger, pump, filters, dessicants, upgrade components, chassis, optics. Oddly not an ounce desiccant. Boys with their toys........gotta love it.
@janrobertbos
@janrobertbos Жыл бұрын
..wow............Steve is at it again and how..............he always makes me want to try out the guns he reviews.........lol...Greetz from the Netherlands!!!
@AEAC
@AEAC Жыл бұрын
Greetings!
@saadmagnum936
@saadmagnum936 Жыл бұрын
I always watch your review before deciding for a new airgun because your reviews and suggestions always make sense to me. However, am still waiting for your review on avenge x because others have already started reviewing a nd testing it. Secondly if you ever wish reviewing avenge x, the. Please make side by side comparison of both tube and bottle version of avenge x classic wooden stock and also demonstrate and comment on accuracy of both platforms. Thanks
@JoeyRF
@JoeyRF Жыл бұрын
On the krypton pump can I use that new style filter on my older pump? I’m about to have to replace mine and would like to use the newer filter
@sonofscotland67
@sonofscotland67 11 ай бұрын
Do you know if these will become available in the uk…thanks
@heathhalfhill6401
@heathhalfhill6401 Жыл бұрын
The low power setting on my Nova Vista Liberty sends 15.89 grain pellets @ 725 FPS which is great inside buildings and High power sends them @ 910 FPS if this helps give some idea of the 2 settings and what you should roughly expect. My Liberty has a one piece block unlike the Avenger 1 gen. Not any issues but 1 piece for me is better. No more dovetail groves too👍
@Conical_Diabolo
@Conical_Diabolo Жыл бұрын
Great video Steve.
@Michael-sf9yg
@Michael-sf9yg Жыл бұрын
So, what is projected price for the carbon bottle tactical .25 cal. Not that it matters that much, I just want to know what I'll be spending.
@mrhalfstep
@mrhalfstep Жыл бұрын
I think you get the access to these industry insiders because you are a smart, articulate guy that asks the right questions and exudes enthusiasm for the sport. All your SHOT show videos have been really great this year. Did Tyler by any chance mention whether they got the pump lockup issues with the Aspen squared away? The concept of that gun is so good and I hate that so many have turned out like mine did, in that the pump will just lock up until you bleed the gun down and start over.
@AEAC
@AEAC Жыл бұрын
Thank you John. I appreciate the kind note 🙂. He did not discuss the Aspen with me, no. Steve
@earthbornalien2888
@earthbornalien2888 Жыл бұрын
Excellent glad I caught this before my second gun purchase umarex gauntlet was my first pcp im wanting a nice enough bullpup and im willing to spend I little extra for it so now after watching reviews on the notos and a few others I think I'm going to hold out for the avenge X
@stevefuhrman1799
@stevefuhrman1799 Жыл бұрын
Hey Steve I have a air Venturi avenger 25 Cal with a scope I am using a rangefinder to range fine every five yards in 5 yrd increments when I go back to 20 yd it is not even on point anxiously awaiting your help
@AEAC
@AEAC Жыл бұрын
Corkscrewing pellets perhaps?
@diegoestabridis2478
@diegoestabridis2478 Жыл бұрын
Lighning fast shipping. Excellent product very pleased
@quannguyen5206
@quannguyen5206 Жыл бұрын
I want to buy this gun, how much does it cost? where do you buy it? Please give me the purchase link. Thanks
@kurtfirestone2761
@kurtfirestone2761 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see the review on that
@BriceP.O.I.
@BriceP.O.I. Жыл бұрын
A steel regulator should be offered at half price to everyone that bought the original AVA. It's been a thorn in my side for more than 2 yrs. My Avenger has been parked for more than 6 months. They must make good on this regulator debacle. Earn back the trust of the people who have been wronged. Good will goes a long way.
@bigearl8687
@bigearl8687 Жыл бұрын
I thought that a 30cal was coming 4 sure. Nice as these guns are & all the new adjustments I understand why no 30cal....
@seansmith5082
@seansmith5082 Жыл бұрын
Is anyone testing this gun yet? If it's as accurate as the Avenger it's gonna kill!
@ChumMing2
@ChumMing2 2 ай бұрын
It reminds me of the hype around the Avenger and Gauntlet units. Sure they were fine....If you want to invest another $470,00 into it , just to make it shoot like an $800.00 unit???? 'not forgetting the $350.00 purchase price' When we just bought the better unit from the jump. Make that make sense. All 3 of my Avengers leaked , 1 got repaired under warranty , 2 did not. The whole 'three strikes thing' is very relevant here. I just had to order my second seal kit for one of the Avengers. Never again , When repaired 'again' , I will sell all 3 of them.
@saadmagnum936
@saadmagnum936 Жыл бұрын
The cylinder tends to expand with pressure and similar contract on decrease in pressure therefore am guessing some point of impact change due to barrel band on cylinder version. What's your opinion?
@knielson7138
@knielson7138 Жыл бұрын
Are the available yet?
@BombsAwayMineCraft
@BombsAwayMineCraft Жыл бұрын
Love my avenger, was my first PCP
@tub7tsuchannel726
@tub7tsuchannel726 Жыл бұрын
Let us know when Venturi Avenger X is in stock we wants to order too.
@ebikes2xs159
@ebikes2xs159 Ай бұрын
So far 1 week zero reg creep. The newer version wood stock on the AvengeX is darker. Dare I say I 'm using the donnyFL FX can. It may not be the quietest, but it works well enough and is just a little bigger diameter than the barrel, looks great. I tried to avoid the look from "No Country for Old Men". lol
@robertrmckerrow1111
@robertrmckerrow1111 Жыл бұрын
Wow!
@BitsOfInterest
@BitsOfInterest Жыл бұрын
Oh no! I already have an Avenger, but after you review it I'll probably want to get an Avenge-X 😉 Seriously though, this is a FX Dreamline for half the price. If it performs as good as a FX I'll probably get one.
@julenebarretocosta763
@julenebarretocosta763 Жыл бұрын
Parabéns,top de mais essas máquinas.
@buijs1967
@buijs1967 Жыл бұрын
Great improvements 👍Only wish left is a forward position cocking lever of the bullpup variant.
@AEAC
@AEAC Жыл бұрын
The forward-cocking pup version you describe is available... we talked about it/showed it in this video. Enjoy 🙂
@lt1nut
@lt1nut Жыл бұрын
On/above the fore end? When the cocking lever is moved to the left side of their hybrid bullpup you are able to work it using your left hand without disrupting your cheek weld, shoulder position/contact, and right hand. I see their hybrid as a mid-length, where the butt pad is 6(ish?)" from the rear of the "block"(correct term? - rearmost position on a firearm when the action housing/cover, frame, or bolt when the chamber is open). Short of a semi-auto the only other mechanical methods that I can think of are slide/pump and lever. It comes down to "which of the three points of contact do you prefer to use/manipulate *and* how important is retaining cheek weld", no?
@Danielhenning86
@Danielhenning86 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait!
@stedyone1090
@stedyone1090 Жыл бұрын
OH. So "reg creep is a reality" boys. There's a sales pitch to appreciate.
@motorgearhead
@motorgearhead Жыл бұрын
longer barrel length would be great! would love to see a 28-30" tube!
@danduhn8328
@danduhn8328 Жыл бұрын
Can you use a large shop compressor to fill the tanks?
@danielsmith9578
@danielsmith9578 Жыл бұрын
Great video Steve, its a pity these guys did not upgrade the barrel to shoot slugs,something like a 1:15 twist rate.😢The Avenge X is just another pellet pusher😅
@saadmagnum936
@saadmagnum936 Жыл бұрын
Are the barrels going to be chocked?
@midwesttacticalair7742
@midwesttacticalair7742 Жыл бұрын
Does the wood bullpup bottle version come with a bottle band bottom pic attachment
@manditrrr
@manditrrr Жыл бұрын
5 months and still no release. How long do I have to wait?
@ramzalfonso3316
@ramzalfonso3316 Жыл бұрын
Nice AG ser!!
@eliovful
@eliovful 6 ай бұрын
BUEN DÍA SACARAN UN CAÑÓN COMPATIBLE PARA OJIVA ? GRACIAS
@redgum1340
@redgum1340 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic combo PCP's FX will be crying LOL
@Riamez
@Riamez Ай бұрын
Hi I'm from India. Like your avenge x. How can I order for it ??
@steveburlingame1935
@steveburlingame1935 Жыл бұрын
Do the bullpups come in synthetic stocks
@justincifreo4909
@justincifreo4909 Жыл бұрын
Any idea what the threads and fitting size on the bottle that threads into the receiver are?
@ericshanahan8296
@ericshanahan8296 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Curious if anything was said about a barrel for slugs?
@AEAC
@AEAC Жыл бұрын
By bad for not asking. Their builder got the Avenger barrels to work with slugs though, so I don't see why not 😊
@ericshanahan8296
@ericshanahan8296 Жыл бұрын
@@AEAC sweet!!
@Cincymike1
@Cincymike1 Жыл бұрын
Wish they made a .30 cal version. I wonder why not? Not enough power? Ditch .177 and add the .30
@randytrashcan
@randytrashcan Жыл бұрын
Unless the stainless reg actually fixed the issues I had, it'd have to be a pass. I went through four, and not one of them had a functioning regulator. The trigger left quite a lot to be desired as well. Besides those points, it shot great and I personally loved the 300 bar fill, even with a hand pump. Gave me an excuse for a little exercise with immediate payoff! The stock on the Avenge X looks like a quality polymer one, too. I'll have to wait and see how these play out over the next year. Despite the issues I had, I *still* wanted an Avenger. Now I want an Avenge X!
@heathhalfhill6401
@heathhalfhill6401 Жыл бұрын
Difficult to tell so far for the significant cost increase of 250-550$+ for this X model...might have less buyers remorse buying a AGT,FX,Ed Gun,Daystate, or Air Arms to be honest. A few hundred dollars more I can get something better with a longer and better history of dependable, and reliable quality. Hey What do I know...in just sayin.
@randytrashcan
@randytrashcan Жыл бұрын
@@heathhalfhill6401 I actually ended up with a wood Hatsan Flash. It’s lighter weight and shoots tighter groups off the bench than the Avengers. An actual two-stage trigger and it also likes cheaper pellets than the Avenger, so no complaints there. My only qualm is the lower fill pressure! I think I got mine for $275 or so. I made that first comment before hearing the prices on those. At $500-750, absolutely no way. Better deals on better rifles at those prices.
@bayonne
@bayonne Жыл бұрын
@@heathhalfhill6401 I was thinking something similar I already have a wood stock .25 avenger, why do I need another one. However if I was a first time buyer this would be the model to go for.
@tacocin
@tacocin Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@yukonjack.
@yukonjack. Жыл бұрын
Steve I heard they will they STOP producing the original avenger when the new avengeX comes out? Like what happened with the Gamo swarm Mag,Gen 2. I prefer the streamlined original myself, sometimes less is more, not to mention less burned-up overworked fly-by-night compressors.😉
@dow4hurst
@dow4hurst Жыл бұрын
Steve, I felt like Tyler effectively answered the barrel lottery question since barrel kits plus 3rd party barrels are planned. Do you agree? He never said the barrels would be held to a higher standard, but kits allow for much easier warranty replacements.
@AEAC
@AEAC Жыл бұрын
I feel like Tyler's position has always been that with all brands of barrels, there is always a lottery, all the time, lol. It's mine too. Best, Steve
@we7shewe7she67
@we7shewe7she67 Жыл бұрын
I like the carbine with lowered scope rail ... but how quit is it ? Does it require a silencer and a long adaptor to stabalise the barrel like DonyFl ?
@AEAC
@AEAC Жыл бұрын
This topic is covered in great detail in tis video, and your questions are answered directly with lots of pics shown. Enjoy!! 🙂 Steve
@we7shewe7she67
@we7shewe7she67 Жыл бұрын
@@AEAC 👍
@willreasoner4384
@willreasoner4384 Жыл бұрын
WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Saving my $$$
@Light_357
@Light_357 Жыл бұрын
Love everything except that bottle. Yikes will live with the tube 😅
@AEAC
@AEAC Жыл бұрын
lol, I liked it... looks quite pretty in person 🙂
@slowpokeairgunner4027
@slowpokeairgunner4027 Жыл бұрын
I'll never buy another Air Venturi gun ever again, the last few models they put out all leaked and the customer service is horrid. Their excuse, the price, if you want a great gun then go pay big money for one that works, which they sell to their loyal followers (mainly the people getting paid to push their products) and all you hear is, "You get what you pay for", and "If you wanted a gun that works you should have spent a couple thousand on a good one, it's your fault they sold you a piece of garbage." A working gun that lasts more than a few weeks, if it does that, but it's a beginner gun so for the price you're supposed to enjoy giving your money away for crap that doesn't work, and horrible customer service, all the sheep push that for them because, ummm, well, I don't know why. When the last few models that have been put out had the same exact problems and they refused to fix it, it's all about the money, and of course, they all blame it on China and are too stupid to realize the people running the company here in the USA are the ones that approved it to be made, in China and with crap seals, regs, etc. Be prepared to throw your money away or have to spend more to make it actually work the way they say it does. there's no excuse for the horrible service and gun after gun after gun having the same issues they refused to fix. Again, it's about the money, don't do it or you'll regret it if you want a good gun that works and will continue to work out of the box. I have budget guns that have run like beasts for years and still going strong, I think I've had one for like five years, no seals changed, nothing, and still awesome. Don't buy the, "It's a budget gun" lie. I hate it because they would be good guns, but the track record of Air Venturi guns is hitting on zero, it's the truth and facts, thus everyone will hate me for it. Wait, don't buy one, make them prove themselves with a good gun instead of buying a sales pitch.
@hollowell427
@hollowell427 Жыл бұрын
The Air venturi is not for me. I want a FX so bad i can taste it...
@springpistonriflefeverlone9611
@springpistonriflefeverlone9611 Жыл бұрын
Very informative 👍. Think I will stick with my spring piston rifles.
@slowpokeairgunner4027
@slowpokeairgunner4027 Жыл бұрын
@@hollowell427 It's got the potential to be a great gun for the price, but when the excuse, the same excuse gun after gun, nah, not interested. I have other budget guns that have run like a champ for years and still going strong, and I can do with it what I could when the Avenger was working, and neither are regulated. I'll probably get a high-end gun eventually, but I don't need it at the moment, I may shoot to 150 yards and my budget guns will do that accurately enough to not have to spend the money right now. I just have issues with the whole "get what ya pay for" line. All my other guns are still running just fine, if it were a one-off and just a few people with the problems I'd write it off as a bad one, but they have a track record of it and that makes all the difference. All of my guns are budget guns and they run great and have since they came out of the box. The Avenger may have later a little over a month and they sent it back worse than when I sent it to them, all I've heard is the BS line of, "Ya get what you pay for." That doesn't explain why I have guns the same price that has run like a champ for four to five years at this point without issues, they don't seem to fit into the, "Get what you pay for", lie that's often sold in the industry. It's just not true, it's an excuse.
@slowpokeairgunner4027
@slowpokeairgunner4027 Жыл бұрын
@@springpistonriflefeverlone9611 I only have one springer, another el cheapo, it broke and I had to fix it a few years ago and It's run like a champ since. All of my guns are budget guns, my Hatsan Flashpup wood model is the most powerful and accurate, unregulated and I can do with it what I could with the Avenger when it worked. The Avenger lasted a couple of months and I sent it back to be fixed, it was returned worse than I sent it so I got mad and it's been collecting dust since. I still shoot my Flashpups and other guns, they've been running for years. I have three that are way past due for seal changes, but they're still going so I haven't touched them. I had a horrible experience, watched the Air Venturi guns for years, always leaked and had problems model after model, I got mine as a Christmas gift, I wanted one but never would have bought it without waiting to see if it would be like previous models they've put out. I think it's got a lot to do with not needing a higher-powered gun if you don't need it. I only shoot on a few acres for the most part and my budget .25 cal guns are good as far out as 150 yards if I need to go that far. I can get critters at 40 to 50 yards with my .177 break barrel without problems so I have no need for it right now. That could change, I do have some friends with huge properties where I may need more power for distance I could hunt on, I just don't. I use my co2 pistol (Diana Chaser) the most, I've taken out more pests than I can think of with it. Snakes, mice, etc. I use my .25 cal pcp's because of groundhogs and stuff of that nature. I also have deer here daily and I could drop one without a problem if I needed to. Break barrels are great tools, mines a springer so ou have to know how to shoot it, but man is it accurate. I bet you have some good ones. I can't recall, haven't been on here for at least a year. I think I'm the only one that likes my gun, it was $52 I believe, and is amazingly accurate for me, nobody else can shoot the thing because of it being a springer, but I love it. Thanks for the comment, sorry for the book, I'm bad for that. Have a good one.
@springpistonriflefeverlone9611
@springpistonriflefeverlone9611 Жыл бұрын
@@slowpokeairgunner4027 No need to be sorry, good to hear from you and good airgun info 🙂👍.
@beebop9808
@beebop9808 Жыл бұрын
Sux you guys skipped over the price point on the tactical stock. I've made those mods on my .25 and it's pretty close to this new gun. Love the feel. So much easier to handle. I'm diggin it dude! Be looking forward to the release this summer and hopefully those barrel options will be figured out by then. I'll be saving up my change.
@AEAC
@AEAC Жыл бұрын
I shared on-screen the price sheet for all models at between 16:16 to 16:29 👍. Steve
@beebop9808
@beebop9808 Жыл бұрын
@@AEAC I missed that somehow. Old age and bad eyes more than likely. I did find it shortly after though but thanks man, appreciated! That was a great vid introducing the gun!
@AEAC
@AEAC Жыл бұрын
@@beebop9808 I do that too... we're getting old together 🙂
@pcpkrait6964
@pcpkrait6964 Жыл бұрын
Jsb pellets 18.13 gr grouping 100-150 yard try .22 cal.
@springpistonriflefeverlone9611
@springpistonriflefeverlone9611 Жыл бұрын
Time to move to rumble?
@nosherwanadill6177
@nosherwanadill6177 Жыл бұрын
Can we run slugs in these guns....
@denniscampbell8240
@denniscampbell8240 Жыл бұрын
On the bull pups ,,,i don't like the high scoops mounts ,,,I like my scope low to,the barrel ,😊
@marubaldo5244
@marubaldo5244 Жыл бұрын
How much like that airgun for hunting. Sir
@paulcheng5752
@paulcheng5752 Жыл бұрын
I am gonna turn that synthetic 0.22 Cal. Into a hunter field target rifle!
@brodriguez842
@brodriguez842 Жыл бұрын
What they need to do is offer an Avenger in a minimum of .30 and or .357 caliber for even larger game. They need to offer it in multiple calibers in this platform the same way AEA does with it's HP Max and others.
@lt1nut
@lt1nut Жыл бұрын
That could be the next frame, as-in short action and long acton in firearm rifle calibers. IF the market demand becomes large enough to do so in a sub $800-$1000 retail price ("large scale" production)........
@Darishakhunter
@Darishakhunter Жыл бұрын
nice
@julenebarretocosta763
@julenebarretocosta763 Жыл бұрын
Top de mais ➕️
@justincredible7886
@justincredible7886 Жыл бұрын
Tyler no option for folding stock? Big miss. That will be the thorn in the side when u release the shorter barrels. Coulda been a perfect backpack gun
@motorgearhead
@motorgearhead Жыл бұрын
the Krypton looks like it came from the same planet as my Tuxing twin cylinder... similar DNA... might be worth comparing both... just saying.
@FloridaMan1976
@FloridaMan1976 Жыл бұрын
Looks like I might have to dabble into the PCP realm this year.
@Cincymike1
@Cincymike1 Жыл бұрын
What have u been waiting on
@FloridaMan1976
@FloridaMan1976 Жыл бұрын
@@Cincymike1 idk, guess I've been sleeping under a rock too long.
@Cincymike1
@Cincymike1 Жыл бұрын
@@FloridaMan1976 they are really impressive tools that are getting better each year.
@scinner28
@scinner28 Жыл бұрын
TBH ...nice clip i like it ..But in europe the wood big tank bullpup will cost around 800 to 900 euro's i think ..so no entry level at all enymore..euro people correct me if am wrong please..for that price you have allot of option's ,,
@jowho9992
@jowho9992 Жыл бұрын
When can we expect your review ?😁
@bigearl8687
@bigearl8687 Жыл бұрын
STEVE WHERE ARE YOU, NO VIDEOS OR ANYTHING, HOPE ALL IS WELL WITH YOU
@sillasaram9121
@sillasaram9121 Жыл бұрын
You guys didn't talk about the weight. Old Avenger is 6.5lb, new one is 7.7lb. That's pushing Gauntlet level piggyness. I wish they made them lighter even with less adjustments as Avenger is a good field hunting gun except for the weight.
@AEAC
@AEAC Жыл бұрын
For what it's worth, it felt really light to me... I had a lot heavier guns in my hands that week 🙂
@sillasaram9121
@sillasaram9121 Жыл бұрын
@@AEAC I'm comparing to Diana Strormrider. If Avenger weighs that, adding optics will push it to now Avenger level especially IR stuff. Add optics to current Avenger, and it really pigs out.
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