New AoE2 DLC civilizations that we might see? ( 25th Anniversary 2025) | Age of Empires 2

[@roderic3261]

Frankly instead of digging on more civilizations with very slight nuances in bonus and unique units as the only distinct trait, they could put effort in doing regional skins for units just as buildings are. I am used to but still find uneasy to play African or American civilizations with European skins

[@bristleback3614]

I don't think regional skin for each civs is a good idea. In AOE 3 each colony has their own unique unit and skin represented their culture but this also lead to a confusion for differentiate the unit role.

[@omkargouraje6243]

That is reserved for AoE 4.

[@Ghreinos]

You can do this with mods, but not with the base game.

[@smaoproducts]

I do think the new DLC is going to be in the East Asia region. It’s long overdue for a DLC of its own, with campaigns for the Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans. I do see the Khitans, Jurchens, and Tibetans being added as new civs. For all the ones you covered I think the Slavs could be split into so many civs. A Balkan DLC with the Wallachians, Croats, and Serbs would be great; alongside a Russian one with the Rus, Novgorodians, and Muscovites is doable.

[@catalinmarius3985]

Better to have the Wallachians named as Romanians so they can cover the Moldavians as well, as Wallachians and Moldavians were both Romanians and Romanians seem to have no problem with naming them Romanians.

[@Saphrax89]

American civs are really under represented right now, however I would go with the Purepecha and the Chimu. Really agree with the renaming of the Slavs to Rus. If it was up to me, I'd also split the Celts to Welsh, Irish and Scots... But then again Vikings and Italians could also be split to additional civs...

[@HawkknightXC88]

Vikings the most in terms of other sub factions of Norway with their own unique units and buildings.

[@Saphrax89]

@@HawkknightXC88 well, since AoE2's timeframe goes well beyond 1066 they could easily include Danes, Norwegians and Swedes

[@Pommes-je]

But the Slavs are not only the Rus. Also the Celts not only the Welsh, Irish and Scots. So that will not happen lol.

[@bristleback3614]

i think Malay also need to be renamed to Javanese or Majapahit since Majapahit kingdom isn't Malay but Javanese

[@rabidlorax1650]

Ostrogoths/visigoths/saxons

[@powermoises7436]

We should get more civs for Return of Rome: Gauls, germans, huns, goths, iceni, lusitani, roxolani, getae, etc

[@lucassousa.521]

And there are also dynasties like the Chinese, which were divided kingdoms as shown in the video, and the Khitans of Mongolia, the Choseon of Korea, the Tibetan Empire, the Seljuk Empire and the possibility of dividing Italy into 3 civilizations like the Genoese, Venetians and Normans of Sicily.

[@lucassousa.521]

The Khazars and Pechenegs are missing, as they were both different nomadic civilizations. And they equally impacted history! Despite the Pechenegs having been defeated many times throughout their history.

[@tyranitararmaldo]

The "Chinese split" is people getting the wrong end of the stick. It's not about changing the Chinese, it's about adding other civs around them that currently use the Chinese during campaigns, because there's nobody else. It's also mixed up by people not understanding that AoE2 civs are based on cultures/ethnic groups, not actual empires. So some people suggest to split them into the "Tang, Song, Ming" etc, which is not how the game works.

[@royasturias1784]

You will get the semi-nomadic Jurchens civ instead.

[@AssassinKid0]

Creation of new tungus civs like merkits, kara-kitai and jurchens are better than that.

[@huguesfalk5956]

Well well if the political were not to be considered, the Burgundians would never have been split from the franks ; and we could argue the same for the Sicilians/normands as basically, the Normandy duchy and its multiple warmongers were an emanation of the Frankish kingdoms (hence the crusaders having no issues to gather all together, may they be people of the HRE or from the French kingdom)

[@omkargouraje6243]

​@@huguesfalk5956 Thats how devs broke tradition and game became overloaded with European civs.😅

[@omkargouraje6243]

Most appreciable comment.

[@irwingspereira3861]

north-american civi should be cool on aoe2

[@Dr.-Dank]

A Mississippian/Cahokia civ would kick ass. They could be a sort of horseless Teutons-like civ: good infantry, good defenses, good monks.

[@fachriyulfiansyah1927]

Add Siam 😔

[@risendragongames]

As a history teacher, I’d like to see the Zulu, the Lakota,or the Cherokee so long as they were historically accurate (latter two no horses, cuz that was post 1492)

[@Dr.-Dank]

I mean, the game is supposed to cover the 500 AD till the 1600, no? By 1600 I'm pretty sure there were some groups that had gotten horses from the Spanish. I've been thinking that it would be a fun unique tech for an American civ to start off the game without access to horses, but then get them in Castle or Imperial age - maybe for the Apache, since they were the first tribe to steal and ride horses from the Spanish.

[@AhmadAhmad-r1x]

history teachers dont know much about history, they are just taking the job as a bussiness

[@User-h8k2y]

@@Dr.-Dank You normaly would have knights in Castle Age and in Feudal just the Scout so having cavs just in Castle age would not be unique at all. Also idk which civ gets this secret bonus but if you convert an enemy stable or spawn with a stable you can train knights that look like mounted jaguar warriors but i know you can not upgrade it or maybe it can get meele upgrades but i don't think armor

[@filozof90]

That's pretty much the AoE 3 timeline, so it won't happen.

[@russelljackson2818]

I've gotta say, the idea that Western and Eastern Africa are fine being represented by only one civ each is pretty rich. By that logic, we should have maybe four European civs total. Nubian, Swahili, Somali, and Nigerian civs could be fantastic additions to the game, as would more American civs. We've got plenty from Eurasia already.

[@cojanemanuel8319]

I will love to see more american civs and campaigns because we only have like two of them

[@zxylo786]

Africa? What way to make the DLC not sell. Why would I want to play as jungle primitives? Only worthy empires were the Malians and the Ethiopians.

[@timmyturner5951]

​@@zxylo786Kanem Empire wasn't in a jungle. I guess geography isn't your strong point.

[@EresirThe1st]

Nigeria didn't exist in this period, it's a modern multi-ethnic state. And Nubia is already largely covered by Ethiopians. I'm fine with more African civs but don't be silly about it. There's far less historical information to go on and thus far less recognition to appeal to.

[@nekhumonta]

Maybe because the middle ages only really makes sense as a European period. It makes less sense in the rest of the world.

[@Crossil]

Tanguts, Jurchens and Khitans wouldn't really take anything away from the Chinese, similar to how adding Poles, Bohemians and Bulgarians didn't take away anything from the Slavs, which are primarily East Slavic. It's only a "split" in the sense that it fragments the umbrella that the Chinese are used for, encompassing those nations' dynasties within China in the given time period, much like how Mongols cover the Yuan dynasty in certain scenarios.

[@Devquispe19283]

I would like to see Chimú civ for South America

[@HawkknightXC88]

Who are the Chimus or the Chimu civilization?

[@Jaomco]

@@HawkknightXC88 The Chimu civilization/Chimor were from the northern coast of Peru and were the the biggest rival of the Incas. They originated with the Moche culture and existed much longer than the Incas.

[@danielortiz7968]

@@Jaomco even in the campain of the incas, there are a fight against the Chimu Empire, so it could be a perfect add to the game.

[@Crossil]

Chanca, Chimu and Mapuches for an Andean set.

[@elvapocristo1319]

I would like them to add new South American civilizations like the Amerindian, Mapuches (which already have several mods) or the Charrúas, who existed around the 1500s, not too far from the period depicted in Age of Empires 2. For example, the Mapuches could use horses, as when the Spanish arrived, the Mapuches quickly learned to domesticate and breed them, and they used them to defend themselves from the Spanish Empire for so long that this people still exist today and were never truly defeated.

[@edney218]

considering there are only 3 each from the Americas and Africa. i would like the civs from these 2 continents. your picks are perfect. splitting chinese is obvious thing but its a tricky coz of their govt

[@orionthanathos8861]

Siamese! Since Burmese and Khmer is playable then why not include Siamese?

[@AhmadAhmad-r1x]

no enough history fo siamese

[@vivone7671]

Ayutthaya and lan xang too!!

[@あか-j1q4m]

add Nanzhao .This civilization influenced Burmese and Siamese , Nanzhao expanded into Myanmar,conquering the Pyu city-states in the 820s, finally defeating the Tagaung Kingdom in 832.

[@cpot2727]

I think if we are going to have rome we should also have Greece even better Athenians and Spartans would be amazing to see come back. Even if not this dlc :D

[@cpot2727]

@@vivone7671 well if Rome is in aoe2 so can Greece. Same with persia. They all fit.

[@vivone7671]

Wow congratulations you predicted the future(in new update)and I'm sorry for bothering you (Sorry that my English is not good)

[@cpot2727]

@@vivone7671 wow it’s no bother at all haha enjoy new dlc

[@vivone7671]

Lol

[@jesuscristofersonccofernan8976]

Inca must be split into many civs: Wari, quechua (central andes) Muchik, chimor (north coast) Tiahuanaco, aimara (highplain) Chincha, nazca (south coast) Chachapoyas (amazonian mountains) Add many more but those represent very well cultural divitions and identity of the time and even today

[@MrShadowThief]

The Serbs did have an empire, although it was very short lived.

[@tisucitisin1]

I would split Slavs as it doesn't make sense to have - Poland, Bohemia, Bulgaria, and then Slavs like these three nations are also Slavs. Renaming Slavs to Kievan Rus and adding one or two more Slavic nations. Saying Croatia and Serbia are not viable because they were never an empire and then immediately putting Wallachians is silly.

[@dragosd8992]

Well there already is a Wallachian campaign so you can't remove it so might as well add the civ

[@tisucitisin1]

@@dragosd8992 my argument wasn't against Wallachia, I would love to have them as a civ. I was saying that his logic is not valid, as in the same chapter he says that Croatia and Serbia are not viable as they weren't empires and then he puts forward Wallachia, who also wasn't an Empire. And similar to Croatia and Serbia it was both under Hungarians and Ottomans.

[@catalinmarius3985]

@@tisucitisin1 Serbia had an Empire actually. And many civs already in the game didn't have an Empire. So I don't see why Wallachia/Romania or Croatia shouldn't be added just because they didn't have an Empire.

[@tisucitisin1]

@@catalinmarius3985 we're in agreement here, that's why I said that his logic is not valid

[@EresirThe1st]

Korea was never an empire either, it's not a requirement for a civ. You can add a civ for all south slavs named Sclaveni.

[@weifan9533]

The regions that I most want to see (in no particular order) 1. East Asian DLC featuring Jurchens, Tanguts, Bo/Baipu (representing the Nanzhao/Dali kingdoms), and Khitans 2. A minor SE Asian DLC featuring Chams, Mons, and Siamese/Tais 3. New African DLC featuring Soninke, Kanem-Bornu, Somalis, etc. 4. American DLC featuring Chimus, Mixtecs, and Purepechas

[@zxylo786]

Italian split with Genoese, Venetians, Swiss and Papal States would he very cool. Maybe a HRE split with Teutons, Austrians, Bavarians and Saxons. And maybe even a Spanish split with Aragonese and Castillans. DLC ideas are almost endless.

[@clopec]

The Hansa as a naval+strong economy nation could be a good option for a HRE nation.

[@theocyberskunk4815]

Spanish could split into Aragonese, Castillians and Basques. Remember that Pamplona and Navarra were important kingdoms of basque culture

[@Natsatable]

Lets make every city in europe as a civ! I want to play with Vidin kingdom! ... no wonder aoe2 is becoming the joke in the age franchise

[@EresirThe1st]

This is utterly ridiculous. The game is about representing civilisations not polities.

[@nekhumonta]

There are 3 Italian civs already...

[@HawkknightXC88]

All of these are really good choices for Age of Empires 2 Civilizations. Been wanting to play as the Wallachians the reworks of the chinese and rus for a long while now.

[@catalinmarius3985]

Why do they have to be regional DLCs, what about adding Romanians and a Chinese split?

[@zamlent2492]

I have a feeling it’s gonna be an Asian DLC

[@Dr.-Dank]

Spirit of the Law predicted that this would be a China-centered DLC. I recommend watching his video on this.

[@zamlent2492]

@@Dr.-Dank watched it already 11

[@zamlent2492]

@@Dr.-Dank before he predicted a African DLC because of the code name PRTO, and it turned out to be India DLC

[@Dr.-Dank]

@@zamlent2492 this is true, but this time his prediction drew a lot from other speculations by the Age community. I can't remember if that was the case with DoI, but Spirit isn't alone in thinking this DLC will be centered on the Chinese. At the very least, it is notable that in the Genghis Khan campaign text files they changed the term "Chinese" to the "settled people." Why change such a specific detail from a 25 year old campaign?

[@E-Lazarus]

@@Dr.-Dank Hei, man. Will you eat balls if he wrong?

[@GnarfSlein]

Split Vikings into Norwegians, Swedes & Danes Split Italians into Florentines, Venitians & Milanese or Genoans

[@eighty2018]

I wanna see a unit that both fires and moves at the same time. A unique calvary archer/ship perhaps. With all the mechanics the devs have introduced since 2019 (Aura's, Srivamsha dodging, charged attacks, transforming Rathas, reincarnated Konniks) I'd love to see them try this. Maybe a bit OP, but they could make it work.

[@holasmay542]

It's actually crazy how Italians haven't been split into Venice, Genoa, Milan etc.

[@Iznikroc]

I would suggest the Tlinglit/Haida as a American civ with their warriors in wodden armor being their unique unit acting as a teutonic knight lite

[@afiqasyraf2291]

I would like to split the Malays like Indians civs. new Malay civs i want mostly is the Malaccans(Gunpowder and Navy civ focus), Srivijayans and rename the current Malays as Majapahits or Javanese

[@JAKEATO]

For American Civs I think the Tlaxcaltecas they fight Aztec empire and were part of the Cortes Army, I think more reworks could works for civs like Celts(Hoang almost carry the win rate ) or Burmese .

[@zephyrna6249]

I think the Iroquois and Sioux would be a great adition. Even the Navaho or Innuit. The Sioux could be uniquely cool as a Native American civ that functions similarly to a Central Asian Civ. I could imagine them having light cavalry musketeers. And having hunters generate gold.

[@theocyberskunk4815]

I'm surprised that nobody talks about Aragon and Basques. Spanish civilization could be splitted in the same way as India, into Castillians, Catalans and Basques, since they had a lot of participation in the Reconquista and many other conflicts Aragon conquered Sardinia, Sicily and parts of Greece, and their Almogavars were valious mercenaries hired by many european kingdoms. Basques were a strong force in the Pyrinees that even defeated Charlemagne, and the kingdoms of Pamplona and Navarra supported a lot in the initial stages of the Reconquista

[@iraguinnesslover]

It would very cool to rename slavs to Kyivan Rus, and maybe make separate muscovy to show the difference. Boyar is a muscovy thing, so another unique unit needed for Kyivan Rus - could be some heavy cavalry named something like "Bohatyr' or a cossac, a conquistaror like unit.

[@Heimdal8212]

I think it would be unnecessary to change the name of the Sicilians. As far as I know, there had been no independent kingdoms in southern Italy before the arrival of the Normans.

[@viktorbasara2368]

Serbians have empire which expanded on 3 seas, with over 250.000 m². From 1346 to 1380.

[@Ovijit001]

We aren't getting Russo civ anytime soon.Becaz of the war

[@peashooter-s5d]

bro Europe has like 90 civilizations in every single corner of the continent, stretching in time from the romans (0 AC) to the byzantine to the italians (1860 AC) and everything in between including many niche states. You cant say 4 civilizations have covered all the entire of African civilization across nearly 2000 years of history , the berbers (amazigh people) were mostly nomadic and never made any formal long lasting settlements anyway. If Europe can recieve such a specific attention to detail for kingdoms and states i dont think its fair to say "1 north 1 south 1 east 1 west" yup we've got civs for all of 30,365,000 square km of Africa, plus considering most aoe2 civs can have pretty questionable history with certain civs going into imp or existing in dark age. I think we can be just as lenient with possible African civilizations. Awesome video though

[@peashooter-s5d]

plus saracens its just an old word muslims so im not sure they exactly just cover Egypt. We could maybe get the mamluk sultanate and have saracens become some caliphates or something idk. We could also have ghana aswell as mali. maybe even carthage although im really pushing it

[@Heimdal8212]

It's not the game's fault that Europe was so divided or that its history is better documented. But yes, Malians and Ethiopians cover too much

[@peashooter-s5d]

@@Heimdal8212 yeah i get that, thats definently true. they should totally split chinese or saracens i think

[@zxylo786]

No one cares about Africa.

[@Dr.-Dank]

@@peashooter-s5d I could also see Songhai added to the West African civs, or Great Benin. But a Congolese and/or Great Zimbabwe just makes sense. Someone in the comments pointed out that the time period of the game would allow for the Zulus to be added, which would also be cool.

[@fallenhero4550]

I do agree that the Chinese like the Indians should be split, I would also like a rework with the Franks making them a Knight & Gunpowder Faction. Replace the Cavalier and Paladin with something like the Chevalier.

[@mohamadekonurcahyono2529]

Malay can also be split: -malay represent mallacca sutanate -sumatran represent srivijaya empire -java represent majapahit empire -philipinian -bornean -balinese -molluccas -celebes

[@ahmicqui9396]

Best split idea

[@bristleback3614]

@@ahmicqui9396 In game architecture is clearly Majapahit and Majapahit kingdom is Javanese not Malay (they speak malay though)

[@ahmicqui9396]

@@bristleback3614 yes

[@albertozerpa4587]

Soy de argentina y deberia poner alos Theuelches y los Homahuacas que sabien del uso de cobre y bronce aparte del oro

[@mitchellmoody9309]

Polynesian civs plz 🙏🗣️🔥

[@weepingbones_2]

Legit. Not enough people are talking about Polynesian civs! its a massive area with cool history, civilizations and cultures!

[@mitchellmoody9309]

@@weepingbones_2 we could get water buildings, unique boats, etc. It would be a great way to bring some improvement to water, many orioles least favorite mechanic

[@catalinmarius3985]

A few small nitpicks: Serbia did actually have an empire for a short time (Stefan Dusan) and many nations already in the game like Amrmenians, Georgians, Burgundians, Bohemians, etc, were small. The flag you used for Wallachia/Romania is actually of Moldavia, which Moldavians are Romanian too but specifically for Wallachia the flag is different.

[@danielmunsaka2051]

Would be cool if all units with a shield had the civ emblem. Just noticed that at 0:30

[@cryxibus]

I'd rather see regional unit skins in the game before new civs are added. But I'd buy both.

[@pillbox2079]

I think there are already too many civs in the game. Like one of the last DLCs introduced a civ that has no place in the game, the Romans. And now with the upcoming DLC Chronicles, it seems the devs realised it as well. Tho, if they add Wallachians, I want to see them have some kind of LIGHT cavalry archer trained from Feudal age. Fast as a scout, but with no armour and limited attack range, and same power as the archer. Later it would merge with the normal cavalry archer. This new unit will be useful for good Feudal agression combined with scouts. I personally like cavalry archers a lot, but with how dominant ranged units are, I would much rather prefer if the melee pathfinding is fixed and the millitia line gets some love.

[@hieratics]

We need the Welsh, Bretons and the Catalans

[@G_Serra]

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[@ZiggyMandarr]

I was thinking Welsh as well. Though I haven't thought of any ideas to make them distinct from Britons or Celts.

[@icetina117]

We really need more MesoCivs or north american civs

[@patricksteinhuber6981]

Very interesting Video - Thanks! - this is stuff for at least three DLCs :) i hope it comes :)

[@redhairedviking2657]

I'd like to see the Irish as playable civ

[@MrShouttaKun]

the Spanish should be one of the civilizations that could be divided into kingdoms before the conquests. What if instead of more civilizations, sub-factions of each civilization were made, as age of empires 4 did?

[@marcuspontius3967]

I rather would like to have a new mechanic or tech, like feudal techs for all civ or an option for specialization in castle/imp techs...

[@21Elyesa07]

1. We need "Khazars" or in turkic "Hazars" they have a potencial chance to come to AOE II they have a huge history and they fight the most times against the arabs or Sarazens and make alliance with the byzantines against the arabs. The Khazars was a jewes turkic civilisation. 2. I like the Serbian history and I think that was also a huge potencial AOE II civilisation the Serbs is also a Slavic civilisation with strong Cavalary they also have fights with Ottomans, Hungarian and other civilisation in the history. King Dusan was the great Serbian King in the 14 Century. But finaly its a Slavic civilisation that was keep in generall as a Slavs. 3. I think one of the most problems in AOE II is that so many civilisations they was keep in generall for example Slavic (Russian, Ukrain, Serbs, Wallachian (Vlad Dracul is the game as a Slavic in AOEII) also the Turks combined as the Ottoman and Seljuks and sooooooo many other civilisation keep in generall if we split them in there own civilisation I dont know there is no special for me, for example if the Serbians or Wallachians came to AOE II they have the same tecnology tree as the Slavic but just a little bit better modified as the Slavic and for example look for Georgians there Slavic but better modifided as the Slavic civilisation is this much potencial we need for this game I dont know we all have a different opinion about this.:)

[@fachriyulfiansyah1927]

Also rename Slavs with Rus, with so many Slavic Civs added it's just funny

[@mubashirulmoula1798]

Where do you get these new unit skins? - Sicilians Knight, Leitis with an axe?

[@LucianHector]

mods page in AOE2, reskins

[@salvadorseekatzrisquez2947]

I think there was civ-fatigue maybe no more civs. I wish there was a way for real players that care about the game to be surveyed on this.

[@rdcdt6302]

We need American like sioux, venitian and Caledonian. Three very interesting civilization. Two navy civilization and can introduce walking foundation on water. We can build on them, walk, and attack it. It's as weak as a palisade, long to build and you can't attack the foundation of there is a building on it

[@Saatananumber1]

Tibetians and Jurchens are #1 for me and Vlachs.

[@Rubensitoc]

I'd like to see the Swiss, Dutch and Serbs. Iroquese is also a good one I haven't thought of and maybe Simbabwe. Chinese would best be split into their dynasties but that would also be weird. Xinq going against Han e.g.

[@nekhumonta]

The Dutch make more sense in AoE3. They weren't an independent nation in the middle ages.

[@Tizza933]

i would like to see more bronze age era civilisations similar to aoe1, the branch between the two no longer makes sense so include civs like athenians spartans macedonians carthage

[@LaSombraQueEscribe]

7:09 Oh yea, Harare capital of Iroquois kingdom. Mugabe most prominent Iroquois leader. Impossible to forget how Iroquois fought Rhodesians.

[@E-Lazarus]

3:14 - Totally wrong. You may think so because you are not a Slav and you think "well, this will do". In the same way, someone may think that one Native American civilization or one Indian civilization is enough, if he is not a representative of these cultures. Now the French are developing one expensive game about Japan, there are nothing but mistakes and the approach is "Well, the Japanese, the Chinese, what the hell difference does it make, they are just yellow monkeys, that will do". But that's not how things are done. So, the Slavs in AoE are shown very poorly and simply renaming them is a stupid idea. They need to be divided into several civilizations and their technology tree changed, they need more accurate architecture and more unique units. Boyars are not combat units at all, they are politicians. Also Rus did have cannons.

[@jorgeinti]

we need an italian rework

[@smaoproducts]

Agreed. Split them into Venetians, Genoese, and Milanese. Maybe have some Papal regional units for them all to use.

[@zxylo786]

​@@smaoproductsOr Genoese, Venetians, Papacy and Swiss. I thinl a DLC with these 4 would be incredible

[@smaoproducts]

@@zxylo786​​⁠Not bad at all. The Genoese can keep the Genoese Crossbowmen or just rename them into Pavisiers and also keep the condottieri. Venetians definitely need to have the galleass and the carroccio standard. If the Milanese were added Famiglia Ducale (heavy cavalry) would be the appropriate UU. Papacy would obviously have the Papal Lancers from AoE3 and the Swiss can have the reislaufer (Swiss pikemen).

[@arubahachigatsu3022]

Malay also need to be splitted like indians, at least split it into 2; Malay and Javan, probably add Sunda so the local community didn't upset. Majapahit, as in the campaign of Gajah Mada, is more Javanese than Malay. Malay is more to Srivijaya in the Sumatra Island and Malayan peninsula. But the idea of more americas civ is cool too

[@あか-j1q4m]

1.Xianbei 2.Nanzhao 3.Tangut 4.Tibet 5.Jurchen 6.Khitan 7.Balhae 8.Uyghur Khaganate or Qocho Kingdom 9.Turkic Khaganate

[@lucassousa.521]

The civilization should be changed from Celtic to Scottish, since the Celts only represent these people in Age of Empires 2. In my opinion, the Celts are more appropriate in Age of Empires 1 in their golden age before Christ, when they dominated much of Europe.

[@catalinmarius3985]

Celts are such a core part of AoE2 that I think many people including myself will have an issue with renaming them, even though you are correct.

[@nekhumonta]

I think they (especially in AoK) went for civs that existed in the dark age already. Like goths, franks, teutons, britons, celts... So they could fit more nations into one base civ.

[@orCana]

Where are the Swiss with the Elite Halberdier and Elite Crossbows (without any cav) and high defensive stats?

[@guillemusic7]

Those are on Aoe3

[@Heimdal8212]

Switzerland in the Middle Ages was nothing more than a subnational entity under the sovereignty of the HRE

[@GossAug]

They need to reskin regional units for all standard units and overhaul the buildings. New civs are great but it’s breaking the immersion with how Western European everyone is.

[@cuccooverlord9812]

They could add a new building for mesoamerican civs.

[@Dr.-Dank]

I would love to see more American civs added. As for civ ideas, I'd throw out there: a Pueblo/Anasazi civ - make them a boomy civ with a good farm bonus, the Apache's - that could be a fun campaign fighting the Spanish, could have them be horseless like the Meso-civs but gain access to horses with a unique tech to reflect that they were the first American people to steal horses from the Spanish, the Navajo - could make a fun campaign, reflecting their migration from the Artic circle to the Mojave desert, the Natchez - more sea/water borne people, give them a good fishing bonus like getting gold from fish, the Cherokee - one of the more famous Native American tribes, might not quite fit into the historical period of the game, but it'd be criminal not to include them, and finally, I'd suggest the Comanche, the horse lords of the Great Plains, the first Native American tribe (at least in North America) to breed horses rather than just steal them from the Spanish, a people who picked up horse archery like it was nothing and ruled the American interior until the 1870s (again, maybe not the most historically relevant to the game, but could be a lot of fun).

[@troygreen349]

Would definitely love to have more american civs

[@phesachahawahacha2174]

Next civilization I want to see the most in dlc page: 1. Western Europe Anglo-saxons.wales.Scotland. Holy Roman Empire. Austria. kingdoms of norway.papal states.switzerland 2.Eastern Europe & balkan Poland-Lithuania.kievan rus.wallachians.hungary empire.serbian 3. African Songhai.Zulu Kingdom.congo 4. Middle East Asia Egypt. Kingdom of Jerusalem.khazars.Timurid 5. East Asia Manchu (Qing Dynasty).ainu.Tibet.Nepal 6. South east Asia Ayutthaya. Siamese. Dvaravati(Mons). Tai. Lanna. Lan xang(Laotian). Khom. javanese.Brunei. Tondo 7. Pacific Sea Polynesian.hawaii.Maori. 8. New World (America) olmec.mapuche.cahokia.ironquis.chimus.lakota This is all the civilization I want in aoe2

[@anilkarakaya9343]

They should rename slavs to rus. They clearly represent kiev rus with that farming bonus

[@danmin3051]

I wish would be New remade Chinese dynasties Civs: Han Chinese漢人, Khitan契丹人, Jurchen女真人, Tangut党項人, and Tibetan土蕃人 The Han Chinese focous on foot archer and Infantry, Jurchen and Tangut focus on Cavalry

[@diegoramirez7901]

Mapuches!

[@HawkknightXC88]

I can go with the Mapuches.

[@ahmicqui9396]

Impossible, they fit into AoE3 timeline much better.

[@diegoramirez7901]

Not true, their timeframe fits perfect in late middle ages. They fought Incas (which are in Aoe2 btw) and Spanish even before some scenarios in Aoe2 like Lepanto, Kyoto or Drake @@ahmicqui9396

[@ahmicqui9396]

@@diegoramirez7901 But their strength came from how loose and unadvanved their were. They wouldn't even have town centers in the middle ages.

[@diegoramirez7901]

@@ahmicqui9396 they were quite succesfull adopting invaders tactics, guns and horses. Under that argument, Huns, early Turks and Mongols and even Cumans shouldnt have Town Centers neither because of their nomadic lifestyle. The game needs a basic line of comparisson between Civs, and those balance adjustmens doesnt need to follow strict historical rules.

[@PabloGarcia-vf3re]

Me gustaría que sacaran un DLC para los reinos de la península ibérica, diciendo los españoles en leoneses, navarros, aragoneses y nazaríes, dejando los españoles actuales como "castellanos"

[@royasturias1784]

Tagalog, Bisaya, Javanese civs The Philippines and Indonesia currently have about the same combined population as America. Stop ostracising us, World's Edge!

[@AhmadAhmad-r1x]

dude malay represents indonesia in the game, the malay campaigns are about majapahit, gajah mads snd hayam uruk (i dont know spelled corrcetsly sorry) tht they were all about indonesia

[@danielalejandrobarramartin5193]

We need Chinese split, more africano kingdoms and some polinesyan editor units or maybe some new american civ

[@alimun2496]

I think Malay must be split into 1. malay (new as in sumatra and west malaysia), 2. javanese, 3. Bornean (banjarian and the dayak), 4. Moluccan, 5. Celebes

[@omer7101]

East Asia DLC Khitans, Uyghurs, Tibetians East Europe DLC Kievan Rus, Muscovites Balkan DLC Serbs, Wallacians America DLC Sioux, Iroquois Africa DLC Swahili, Congolese Bonus Maori

[@Lord_Amadee]

They should just remake the AOE star wars game or make a warhammer one.

[@zharkabat]

There is not oceanic civs?

[@----t----1234]

The Swiss

[@martinrusev3502]

I wouldn't mind civs like Zapotects and Gaels to be added.

[@CaptainGrimes1]

We need Vandals, Alans, Indonesians and Tibetans

[@Theozenith]

Swiss, Siamese, Tibetans, Toltecs.

[@DomySilv]

I want republic of venice or the papal state

[@perrypougins379]

I think a cool unit for Wallachians would be a infantry units which stuns enemies, call it "Clubman" or something like that. Also, Serbia did have an Empire, but it didn't last very long.

[@filozof90]

People want to play as Chinese and Vikings, because its cool and easy to grasp. History nerds should just shove it with their "splits" and stop these terrible suggestion.

[@irfandurmus1]

New Civilization is north american natives. 😁 or Switzerland

[@rickywatch3430]

Purepechaaaa

[@emersonrodrigo1551]

Só acho que deve ter uma civ aqui do Brasil também os Tupinambás

[@ЭдгарРожков]

Ignored Indian civs suggestions

[@acdragonrider]

I REALLY want to see a Chinese expansion and DLC. Like the Japanese, they are an original but the Japanese have been getting so many campaigns and historical battles while the Chinese don't even have their own campaign. What the heck.... As an American born Chinese, I grew up learning about so many of the dynasties from Chinese history. Having Qin Dynasty, Han, Song, Tangut/Jin and or Ming dynasty campaigns would be spectacular. And each dynasty was so unique.

[@LbK314]

If the developers add a new civilization it has to meet certain criteria: its relevance (as a political entity), a rival empire (you have to fight someone), legendary conquest and/or legendary battles (that shaped the history), a compelling story (campaign and/or a historical figure), the introduction of a new type of warfare (like in the Hussite wars Bohemians introduced the wagon which was never seen before; or the Polish Hussar charge in Vienna etc), attracting new audiences (this is the tricky one and it didn't work with Koreans). To me, current Italians are kinda weird, maybe they should split and create the Genoese and Venetians (they were huge players on the world's stage; both with 800+ years of existence; we also have a glimpse of their role in the Ivaylo campaign and in the Siege of Constantinople scenario), Florence (though they are most famous for the Renaissance which is more Aoe3 than Aoe2), Papal states (they were relevant but relied on mercenaries, and the story is with intrigues, assassinations, and Game of Thrones kinda queens). I enjoyed playing with the new civs (and campaigns) after DE and the devs did an awesome job. No doubt they will do it again.

[@davidboyeswahn4654]

Thank you for this video

[@vivone7671]

I want siamese or ayutthaya

[@DanielBEDoffen.]

What about Scotland?

[@hieratics]

The Celts need to be broken down into proper Scottish, Bretons, Welsh and Irish

[@lucassousa.521]

There is also the possibility of dividing the German nation represented by Teutons, with the addition of the Saxons.

[@тимурдубровин-н7и]

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[@aleksandarjankovic39]

Serbia was empire for 25 years.... haha but I would love to see us as playable civ.

[@ivaninkret2784]

calling yourself empire after conquering 2 cities? that empire was never bigger than duchy of brittany or burgundy, witch are called duchy.

[@aleksandarjankovic39]

@@ivaninkret2784 we don't called, historians called, next it's not my problem if you are b*hurted for some reasons. Probably some serb take girlfriend from you? Don't be angry just drink tea and everything will be fine.

[@aleksandarjankovic39]

@@ivaninkret2784 it was empire be historians, Serbia have biggest gold and silver mines in this area, german miners came here because of mines, google Novo Brdo, at time most populated town in Europe in one point, even Venetian's came in city because of trade and goods. Serbia is first country here to have gunpowder factories. Do you need something more? Yes Empire not last long because of early death of Dušan and divine between Serbian nobility... Empire conquered almost all Greece and some Bulgarians became our vassal's.

[@ivaninkret2784]

@@aleksandarjankovic39 " it was empire be historians" english? having mines dont make you empire, ruing over several minorites does. self proclaming empire aftre capturing one greek and one blugarian town compared to some other european lords (land size and ethnic diversitiy) is size of an duchy but in name of empire. gunpowder factories is stragiht up made up lie. and if all of grece is macedonia and few emptiy southern lands till that one bigger town is whole grecce... franks were called kingdome and they ruled over 20 differend etnicities and lands much bigger, more populated and richer in all reusoces. yet they didnt self proclaimed as empire after one succes. kingdom of england was never empire, yet london greater area had more population than whole serbian empire at all times trought history. "be historians"

[@aleksandarjankovic39]

@@ivaninkret2784 by historians* I still think your opinion have no weight at all. You are just bitter internet anonymous.