NEW ATTACHMENT TESTED - Should you pick up the HEAVY STOCK? - PUBG

[@WackyJacky101]

The real difference might be in how it makes your weapon "feel" in the game. Lets try that when it goes to LIVE SERVER tomorrow!

[@szilardgaal8811]

Okay thanks!

[@nonamenogame6276]

Thanks mr wacky

[@rolsen1304]

I tested this with a ACE and a M249 on test server and got noticably tighter spray on both multiple times. 0:36 shows 4 sprays much tighter then with tac stock, with one outlier that makes the pattern much larger. I think you are making a statistical error here and basing an average on 1 outlier out of 5, rather then realizing the pattern for heavy stock was better 4/5, ie 80% of the time you sprayed, which is a large improvement! I also suspect some other factor might have influenced that 1 time the pattern significantly deviated.

[@Rhabd0]

Thanks for testing wacky, but could you test without other attachment aswell, maybe the difference would feel more significant.

[@ResonantFalke]

@WackyJacky101 did you tested it on full auto aiming at a single point? Maybe there's some difference in the first shots, it could be worth it... Idk... By the way thanks for the video :)

[@zlyfer]

Crazy. Only 2:34 long and fully packed with details. Must have been much work to run all these tests and visualize the results. This truly shows how dedicated you are! Keep up the good work!

[@micholous]

yeah i googled "heavy stock pubg" and this was the first(and best thing) to pop up

[@rinz5027]

Either somehow it doesn't add any effect, or they forgot to add whatever its effect should be. Regardless of that, whenever someone hears about "Heavy Stock" what it should do is reduce recoil in general because its meant to add stability while shooting, and perhaps at the cost of mobility or ADS speed. Thank you for the test, but it really seems pointless to even pick this up.

[@GameSel]

you need to pay 2500 G-Coin to unlock the effect.

[@mickomag2768]

@@GameSel 😂

[@ressentimentDM]

Unfortunately in pubg there are still only two attachments that significantly influencing weapon: compensator and vert grip (probably flash hider on dmrs). Other ones are just pointless and every good player just throws them away if they found these two

[@lechodeycho4246]

@@ressentimentDM You clearly haven't used a lightweight on the sks/mk. It makes a huge difference to both those guns

[@tannato4864]

@@ressentimentDM eu acho que o compensador é melhor na DMR.

[@doctor_gee]

I played quite a few games on the test server and honestly the "in game feel" was worse than the tac-stock, probably because I was expecting it to be better for recoil control and it wasn't! I'm kind of pleased your findings corroborate what I thought - it seems pointless. Great work thanks.

[@toriushauser7143]

really enjoyed your content during the last week, your kind attitude is awesome! keep it up

[@umeedullah18]

Heavy stock do seem to reduce horizontal recoil with first few bullets. Means burst fires can be more accurate while pulling down to counter vertical recoil

[@aemonblackfyre4159]

You could have added no stock as a third option to show that the heavy stock atleast ist better than nothing (I would hope so)

[@mikecool4ever]

can u imagine 🤣

[@0002pA]

Good idea. I wouldn't put it past Blueballs to fuck this up...

[@GingerPiston]

Seems like a weird thing to add at this stage of the game with negligible benefits. Wonder if there's a very specific case where they've tuned the stats to make a difference - like a specific gun (the Ace) or with or even without other attachments. Maybe if you don't have a comp, for example?

[@WackyJacky101]

Maybe! Will be interesting to see thousands of people try it out in the coming days!

[@Sandeee]

They probably forgot to add the tweak :D

[@jay-d8g3v]

IMO, it might be a big benefit to ace full auto.. but other than that, I don't see the point in it

[@camtwan1]

@@shaunhayes3072 why do you pick up the m4 every time? The difference of just a worse gun is a bad argument

[@0002pA]

@@shaunhayes3072 This is an utter waste of resources.

[@Scouts_Honor]

You should also compare spray patterns when crouched and prone. Maybe the difference is there.

[@rolsen1304]

I tested this with a ACE and a M249 on test server and got noticably tighter spray on both multiple times. 0:36 shows 4 sprays much tighter then with tac stock, with one outlier that makes the pattern much larger. I think you are making a statistical error here and basing an average on 1 outlier out of 5, rather then realizing the pattern for heavy stock was better 4/5, ie 80% of the time you sprayed, which is a large improvement! I also suspect some other factor might have influenced that 1 time the pattern significantly deviated.

[@Lksz-l9k]

I think the point was to show that it doesn't really help with the vertical recoil, since the lateral recoil is a wee bit more random. But maybe that's it, more reliable horizontal recoi In the first half of the bullets. That might be the point of the heavy stock. Either way, it's just not good enough for us to really care about using it. The difference is minuscule.

[@rolsen1304]

​@@Lksz-l9k No, this is equal to having a compensator rather then nothing on the barrel. And it stacks with the compensator. You saying you don't bother picking up a comp?

[@williamwiltsey3184]

I believe you are seeing the gamblers fallacy where random pattern fits your predicted pattern only to be found random again when proven over extended time. We will only know this if you run 100+ recoil tests.

[@rolsen1304]

@@williamwiltsey3184 Running M416 or ACE with no other attachment then the heavy stock should tell the picture quick. Also, since the stock affects both horisontal and vertical recoil as well as scope bounce there's bound to be synergy with certain grips. Might for instance make the halfgrip or lightweight or even angled the overall best grip rather then the vertical grip.

[@verde7595]

@@Lksz-l9k It's hard to tell in the video because it's sped up but the heavy stock improves recoil recovery, not recoil. The barrel is less "bouncy" and sticks to a tighter line most of the time, with it returning to position sooner. This is very clear in the single-fire test where while it doesn't improve the amount of recoil itself, it does help with recovery. It's not a big difference, no, but it definitely is one and semi-casuals like me can definitely feel it, especially on guns with piss-poor recovery or ejaculate bullets like the Vector or M249.

[@Deutsch_Qualitat]

Let's focus on a new 1,000 dollar skin team !

[@mulletguy6615]

Appears that it limits horizontal recoil early in the spray vs tactical stock. If you look at the spray lines near the point of origin they are in a tighter group.

[@ActualCoverage]

That tighter grouping is what makes it better for an actual spray, Try spraying all your shots in the centre with both. My friends and I were testing it out on test server, and we all found our shot grouping was better with the heavy stock with are usual sprays. The heavy stock may encourage people to start using different grips with the tightness from the heavy stock.

[@rolsen1304]

Exact same here, we were 3 people trying it on test and all got better groups when using heavy stock.

[@miniii_7375]

I guess there might be differences if different grips are used.

[@balazsadorjani1263]

Excellent work, Wacky, as always! It feels like there's no huge difference between the two stocks. It'd interesting to see the results of the control group, aka how does these stocks perform vs no stock at all (but other attachments are the same).

[@walker2006au]

Disappointed was hoping would make single fire climb less to make the m16 great again

[@morethanenoughwoodworks7654]

So what's the verdict after some time in gameplay? The heavy stock is better at WHAT, exactly? Supposed to be better for hip fire. Your thoughts? Worth using on say a vector or MP5 or only on say M249? What's ur take?

[@gold3nrul311]

heavy has better recoil control but it penalizes you with worse hip fire and worse ads. if you dont use hip fire much annd u dont mind ads slightly slower go with the heavy.

[@spwhateverable]

Maybe the other attachments mask the change. By that I mean a comp / vert makes overrides it's value. Testing with the only variable being the stock might show a difference.

[@ZarkowsWorld]

Attachments need to stack in benefits, not override.

[@ZarkowsWorld]

"Let's add something that has no point and makes players more confused" "Yeah, great idea Mr Designer, let's do it." "Why are we loosing players again?"

[@davorcaric3944]

I thought the pro for this stock was the stability, the "sway" that you do while zooming in, which would make it best for scoped weapons.

[@jonny24lv]

what about machine gun M249??

[@AverageXennpai]

The stock seems to have like some sort of a stand, so it might be related to prone? Maybe reduce weapon sway or recoil while proning?

[@rickybe]

thats a good point!

[@flavouredmilk]

Thanks for your continued videos jacky! Much love as always

[@shockesta]

Now just add a bump stock to make m16 and mutant more usable and thats it. Bumpstock should make the gun automatic but at cost of a higher recoil

[@ChrisTheBmxGuy]

I've never had a problem with the mutant. I would use the m16 more if it could reliably fire multiple bursts without stuttering. Even when I sync the bursts up perfectly the game might stutter or something and totally throws the rhythm off.

[@cancalkan6547]

bro thanks so much, you actually made soft soft easy to understand

[@PlatoKaramazov]

My squadmate says that the Heavy Stock turns the Vector into a laser, and I can report that the Heavy Stock greatly reduces recoil on the Galil (ACE32).

[@gold3nrul311]

yep

[@ardianblakaj]

This basically is the same just will play some mind games for someone in game thinking its better and how they feel comfortable with it

[@3denym860]

Heavy stock looks like have bipod, maybe good for prone?

[@codymason1053]

Wonder what it does for the m249....

[@morski_ludak2239]

Same btw. Or the ace. But tbh. They should have added such veriety of tac stock for the DMRs

[@JAMES.T.1986]

Maybe it’s boosts performance when shooting prone ? Like maybe using the M249 laying down ?

[@CDome]

This is very fascinating! Not at all what I got from my tests, wonder if they patched anything. Also, did you try the M249 with it? I saw the biggest change from that myself.

[@sondant4224]

Did you test the strafe speed while ADSing? Wacky forgot about that.

[@rexy_op1079]

Yesterday's stream was awesome. ❤️ Keep it up 😉

[@grimstealthgaming]

I would speculate that this attachment will still have some adjustments to be made, given this is a new attachment with little testing I would not be surprised to see some adjustments to be made over the new few patches the first adjustment will make to over powered, the second adjustment will more than likely make it worse than the original state and the final adjustment will be the middle ground where it is better than the tac stock in comparison to stability but worse than the tac when comparing mobility

[@Tyler-sl6vg]

Thanks Wacky I wonder if it helps with recoil while strafing

[@xd-qi6ry]

I would of for sure thought it had to do with prone recoil, or crouching but i supoose they weren’t tested yet

[@botbuddy3169]

i used the Heavy Stock on the M249, and I can feel the difference in recoil

[@GamePath]

You would think it would reduce idle weapon sway during ADS, or is that not a thing in PUBG?

[@antoniohagopian213]

Ads swing is definitely a thing. I use the M16 a lot with the 4x, the moment I use this stock I will be able to tell the difference since I use this thing so much.

[@TheMadVector]

thanks for your efforts! Do you expect it to have an impact on the spawnrate of both tactical and heavy stock? Or will it just be additive?

[@djajipswich996]

Thank you for the video wacky. I look forward to trying it out with the ARs

[@TheHAFOE]

what about spray pattern while moving? side-strafing

[@BrianNaidus]

Us: So should we pick this up? WJ: I've worked for days to compile the data. Here are all of the tests and stats that I've been able to clearly present to you. Us: Uh, so should we pick this up? WJ: lol, no clue

[@kairu_b]

Informative analysis as always

[@Backonos]

you should try it with no attachments, I think some items glitch when used with combos like the light grip with a comp on a mutant burst, it is like the light grip when it first came out.

[@OrbMan97]

Excited to try this on my beloved M16!

[@sibzilla]

Seems insignificant. I would prefer it to answer a balancing issue. For example significantly improved hip firing to encourage movement or much less recoil in auto or perhaps burst mode so that newer players can control sprays at slightly greater distance - even if the nerf was just running speed and ADS. Ah well. I guess they’re worried about overdoing it and introducing exploits.

[@adrianscott2632]

Excellent test thanks 👍🏻

[@lordnelson5385]

Thank you Jacky!

[@yoloswag2505]

Profesor WackyJacky101

[@whitecrow902]

Thank you for the short but sweet video.

[@DrBrian0450]

Thanks Wacky...great info....

[@OGKILLa9365]

Should have tried it with different grips and different guns. Especially the m249. And the ads speed problem could be solved by adding a thumb grip. But I hope it’s not a useless attachment from what I see.

[@johnniewalker8410]

Thanks for the info.

[@Azukaae]

Try to do an accuracy comparison while proning, looking that it has rear monopod it might do something

[@jacobn9024]

Isn't it ideal for a DMR?

[@bazamv6726]

Does Heavy stock help M249 in any way ( Cause I use the LMG if I switch from M416 in match)

[@SKPonr]

Can you try testing it while strafing and see if it makes a difference there?

[@yrag89]

ADS speed is significant when using higher scopes.

[@DNA4774.]

Thanks wacky, we literally always get the best from you. By the way, is there a way for me to use your creator code on console?

[@JabuticaJenkins]

what about while moving?

[@YoGranDaddyEvil]

Was there any significant difference with standing, crouching or prone between the two?

[@vr01t3rh4r]

Maybe it has more of a difference when shooting crouched or prone?

[@sondant4224]

What about run and gun while ADS? Or how fast you can strafe in ADS in general?

[@gold3nrul311]

use tac for run and gun or quick ADSing plus hip fire

[@leonardovaldrich6670]

Wacky I love your content. I think you should have add the tests wihtout any buttstock att to see if it is worth it to pick it up compared to nothing.

[@real_E_]

Wonder how it would perform on a 249 prone?

[@lsimorn]

Thanks for the feedback Wacky!

[@Coldestaevadoit]

I wonder if the heavy stock will be more useful with the 3 rd bust of the m16 or perhaps long distance sprays with the m249. We need answers wacky

[@voltron37]

what is it supposed to do?

[@eyeswideshut5306]

I feel like this is like adding the mosin. Technically different than the kar but somehow exactly the same

[@cujoman187]

The moist nugget (according to specs) the stability is better than the Kar98 Personally I'm not a fan of either myself. I get way more hits with the M24. If I already have a moist nugget I don't even bother picking up the Kar98 and vice-versa but I trade either for a M24 as soon as I find one

[@verde7595]

@@cujoman187 which is weird because the M24 is strictly worse than both and the Kar was readily available for much longer than the M24 so should've been used to it... but hey I'm exactly the same as you are

[@cujoman187]

@verde I only recently started picking up bolty's so never really used them before but stopped already again now I'm strictly 5.56 DMR's (MK12 mainly or Mini) and a 5.56 full auto AR of some sort. I like throwing a ton of lead downrange that's why I carry 300 rounds usually

[@DESTSO]

Wacky do you know how much your loved

[@amanas88]

Nice.. What about m249? But from the results from the other weapons I dont think it will make a difference..

[@CurtisH116]

What about the M249? Maybe better control on long sprays? I'd really like to see the m249 variant the MK46 and allow a vertical grip and such on it

[@KiboraVT]

What about scope stability? Maybe it has an effect on making your scope/sight more stable in ADS.

[@kvindekkvava]

Thanks for testing and sharing @WackyJacky

[@pkopo1]

what does the "can hold up to 16" mean in the patch notes regarding the stock?

[@TMGeorge]

Has anything changed?

[@24RGamerz]

thanks for the informative video

[@notpls]

I noticed that my long distance sprays with my m4 got easier with heavy stock

[@gold3nrul311]

heavy is better when adsing

[@pitvader2]

Thanks 2 u 4 making this kind of video.

[@kellyrankin8844]

Any new thoughts on this Wacky???

[@szilardgaal8811]

Which one is better for m4?

[@XkasaldoX]

Both same tactical looks better at this point

[@philthyphil1017]

I would like to see the how it works with the m249-- oh how I miss when that gun was a crate weapon. Just the sound of that thing was intimidating....

[@sondant4224]

Or when the TommyGun was 😅 good old times

[@philthyphil1017]

@@sondant4224 right .... that was a little before my time but I always heard of that. I'll have to search around and see if I can find any old "Tommy Gun is so OP!!! KEKW" videos on KZbin... I'm sure they're out there. I remember the m24 being a crate weapon as well.

[@philthyphil1017]

@@sondant4224 I originally bought this game for an origional XBOX One ha... fucking big ol log that thing was.. A good friend told me to get it so I strolled on up to gamestop and copped it.... Green early acess cardboard case with a download code and some PUBG stickers inside. I still remember seeing the FPP perspective on the back of the box and that's what sold me in the end.... ended up playing TPP anyways.... cuz FPP was dead. Only competitve online shooter game I ever enjoyed playing in TPP. Now that I'm on PC I'm FPP thank God but yea.... I'm rambling here at work on break.... GGs bro

[@sondant4224]

@@philthyphil1017 wasn’t pubg on Xbox horrible in the beginning? There’s a video called „true suffering - pubg on the Original Xbox one“ you should watch it, so funny

[@philthyphil1017]

@@sondant4224 lol I'll have to check it out and YES it was pretty bad. I'd land and be able to go thru things for like a whole minute. I remember whenever I'd land military, the only thing I'd actually see is the scaffolding before everything loaded in. Looked like a huge ass open field hahaha. Somehow all the bugs made the game special. The unplayable and broken aspects are ironically what gave it such a high replayability... Chicken Dinners felt so special regardless if whether whether was console or PC. I'd be up all night grinding for that win, knowing I was gonna hate life as I'd have to wake up shortly... Forcing myself to work the next day tired as hell under cars turning wrenches ha.. And then came Mirimar. We were all so hyped over it. I remember watching Doc playing it for the first time and thinking damn, I can't wait until it's on console. Back then there was a huge gap between console and PC updates. We're talking months in between lol. Nowadays we both are getting new content pretty regularly. I'd say we're pretty spoiled lol. One thing I wish they would bring back is the old leaderboards. I'm not saying scrap everything they've added but there should be a leaderboard for wins and kills as well as whatever else they're doing these days. I'm talking in public matches. Ranked is dead in NA and I prefer the sandbox "anything goes" type of BR anyway. To me the randomness of not knowing who will end up in your lobby is what makes the game so special. Could be some streamer dude... could be someones first game. Could be a slightly above average player making plays, could be shroud.. lol.... You never knew what you'd run into. Miss that feeling. Anyway, rambling again i could go on about PUBG for ages.

[@matiasmoreno3562]

I'm back at pubg and fount that stock Wich got me confused. I thought one would be better for M16 or Mutant and the other one for auto, reading the description it has mixed effects wich doesn't reflect on gameplay whatsoever lol

[@gold3nrul311]

heavy is better if you dont mind the ads penalty. jackys review is bad. i spent an hour testing them

[@robertstewart1464]

Did you try it prone or crouched? I think that may be where you notice the difference. As someone who does shoot irl I would think a heavy stock as something to help stabilise a rifle for medium to long range, perhaps the difference may be noticed over 100yards?

[@pibbz13]

The M249 with the heavy stock is an entirly different beast, love it!

[@theo_3977]

I love Wackyjacky man

[@ericwong3868]

Wonder how it performs on an M249

[@icingfeestbeest]

try it on the M249 mybe it shines there

[@Chookz85]

@WackyJacky101 would love to have seen M249 if it makes a difference on the LMG

[@halvaargniberg1086]

O man, I Love WackyJacky.

[@q-zyxe889]

Hey wacky, did you test if there is a more noticable change in recoil if you shoot while crouching? It seems like that you only testet it while standing and maybe there is a bigger impact. Would be interesting to check, as you are likely the crouch when engaging in a fight. However, nice Video!

[@starrcrain486]

Do a test on the m249 I bet the heavy stock would be a dramatic difference compared to the tactical stock.

[@lemonsqweezy9532]

Honestly might be what it's meant for. Or everyone overhyped the SAWs recoil and it really isn't that hard to spray.

[@SuperRadustefan]

Legend as always

[@TQUMI]

Hey wack, have you seen this bug on test server with the mg roeloadspeed if you use the exploit? *i just checkt again on test server, but they fixed it.

[@WackyJacky101]

nope! havent seen that yet

[@TQUMI]

@@WackyJacky101 you can literally skip the half of the animation to reload the gun

[@surewould85]

What's the point of even adding the heavy stock if it's significantly similar to the tactical?

[@tattoomiked4612]

Thanks bud.

[@convictions181]

Weird that it doesn't do much. One test you didn't run: I wonder if it makes any difference if it's the *only* recoil reducing attachment on a gun (i.e. No grip, no comp)

[@khaled753]

weapon sway?

[@jahva1O1]

maybe its more effective when on prone

[@KaizenMethod]

Really feels like the M249 was silently nerfed as it has a lot more horizontal recoil on it. I wonder how the heavy stock will perform with that.

[@mikeoxlong2604]

Wonder how it would feel on console too.