Right, let's settle this... New S3 vs old S3, which would you rather have? VOTE in the comments below!
@carwow4 жыл бұрын
VOTE: New S3!
@carwow4 жыл бұрын
VOTE: Old S3!
@kiratdadrah86764 жыл бұрын
I voted both lol
@shaheerburney3984 жыл бұрын
The old one is winning
@dahen92914 жыл бұрын
hey matt
@ZxTennent01xZ4 жыл бұрын
I’ve found a video I can watch, I can eat now
@manenwan4 жыл бұрын
YES EXACTLY
@connorgatchell91864 жыл бұрын
That is so much too!
@doctorsoncars13934 жыл бұрын
I hope your food didn't go cold
@tawanamakotsi98394 жыл бұрын
I found this video right after I finished eating Worst feeling ever😭😭😭
@Cartman51014 жыл бұрын
hahh me too
@murraysampson25014 жыл бұрын
I think the wind in the microphone made more noise than the exhaust on the new S3!
@qjcbciwbcy17384 жыл бұрын
True
@Berke50504 жыл бұрын
If somebody is wondering why Cars keep getting quieter here is an explanation: Every few Years tightens the EU the emission regulation which forces the Car manufactures to make better particle filter between Engine and Exhaust. These enhanced particle filters are mostly thicker than less polution absorbing filters. And these thick Particle filters are also pretty good at absorbing sound which causes the quiet noises. I hope I could help someone with that
@rory7874 жыл бұрын
@@Berke5050 we know why they do it we just wish they wouldn't aha
@adibafiq69454 жыл бұрын
@@rory787 not everyone knows it
@djoetma4 жыл бұрын
@@Berke5050 It's also the choice of the manufacturer. They tune the exhaust sound, thus can make them sound different, louder and more quiet. We've seen it in F1 f.e. where Force India tried a trumpet exhaust just to make more sound.
@autonewstv864 жыл бұрын
I liked the guy in the old S3 he seem nice. Love Drag race of Matt ❤️
@saudimtiyaz4 жыл бұрын
Waiting for matt to introduce that person to us🤞
@Talwar3k4 жыл бұрын
It's the same guy that tells the channels on the radio.
@ermal16564 жыл бұрын
Cc g74z@
@caszzxs41044 жыл бұрын
Same here! 😊
@omnipresentvideo76864 жыл бұрын
Were you the guy in the Audi? Jk
@dimosk73894 жыл бұрын
you need to hire the guy in the old S3...sounds nice, and his launch and braking reactions are spot on
@manlymantis1014 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure he’s a part of the team, I recognize his voice as one of the drivers in pretty much every video.
@Minto1074 жыл бұрын
This guy is in almost every carwow drag race and he didn't want his identity to be revealed
@dimosk73894 жыл бұрын
I stand corrected guys. I thought he was the owner of the old S3, didn't recognize his voice
@2580ben4 жыл бұрын
It's my car! I'd like to say thanks but was not me driving!
@OriginalGriff4 жыл бұрын
@@Minto107 You mean ... he is The Stig? :D
@dylanw8904 жыл бұрын
I think the old S3 is just elegant while the new S3 seems like its trying to be a Lamborghini which is a shame because I love the A3,S3,RS3
@gtx3324 жыл бұрын
agree, the rear looks like the little 'angry bird' face from the s1
@esthermezhu92973 жыл бұрын
Yeah, right it matches Lamborghini's styling a lot. But what to do, nowadays its the new typical styling on newer audi's, to make it look sharper. But don't you worry, its not at all inspired by the Lamborghini's styling, its the styling for it's own the "S3".
@falcongamer583 жыл бұрын
2000s Audis looked so smooth and round
@dannya62274 жыл бұрын
mats first words when born hi everyone mat watson here from carwow
@AlanLands4 жыл бұрын
Yeah true😂😂
@Ss-zn3hg4 жыл бұрын
Always
@shaheerburney3984 жыл бұрын
Lol
@yamangalongwe74194 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@BarryShite254 жыл бұрын
Laaaaaaaaaaaaame
@audriusbaranauskas62274 жыл бұрын
At the Audi factory: -Hey Hans, we must give the new S3 more might and violence!!! -Waaat? Was that more weight and silence…?
@damireagle4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@BRS.F14 жыл бұрын
🤣 so true
@The-Relic-Hunter4 жыл бұрын
😅😅😅😬so true
@Matrix_Spirit4 жыл бұрын
Thats good one. :D Bullseye. 🤣
@thelotus23414 жыл бұрын
😅😅😅🤣 Good one.
@andras.894 жыл бұрын
I'd choose the old one, anytime without hasitation.
@oliverwattley73944 жыл бұрын
I may be biased because I have one but for the money the old one is way better
@MM-br3lv4 жыл бұрын
I don’t get it. The new one just looks like a meatier version on the Audi A1. Another reason to not buy an Audi...
@pb5x54 жыл бұрын
I'd just get which ever is more involving to drive day to day as quick in a straight line doesn't alway mean the most fun.
@humanperson46054 жыл бұрын
@@pb5x5 in theory, from the stats, the old one would be more fun as it weighs less.
@edoalva484 жыл бұрын
Audi is losing their touch. They focused too much on design as in visual aspect, the updated version looks great but in functionality aspect it's not as good as it used to be.
@Dynamix154 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or the old s3 still looks “new”
@TheTranfan4 жыл бұрын
Well it's only 3 years old
@robertjusic90974 жыл бұрын
Here in croatia anything newer than 2013 is new
@stopp234 жыл бұрын
Every Audi age well
@bennetulbricht99224 жыл бұрын
Not if you take a look inside 😬
@2580ben4 жыл бұрын
@@bennetulbricht9922 the inside of this one has the new cock pit that helps it look a bit newer but does have the old mmi screen that makes it look a bit older than the newer ones!
@JMNTN4 жыл бұрын
The old one looks so much cleaner, the new one reminds me of a honda civic with all the obviously fake vents
@Chocobohunter3 жыл бұрын
Bro thats what ive been saying, i have the 17 civic hatch, traded it in yesterday for the 2020 s3, never been happier dont like those new vents
@ScottPC4 жыл бұрын
It’s the gear ratios. There longer on the new car for emissions. Hence how the old cad accelerates a little harder.
@jpaulo334 жыл бұрын
Maybe aero is improved on the new one and the acceleration of the old one comes from the fact it's lighter? Just guessing because the new one would perform better as speed goes up.
@ScottPC4 жыл бұрын
@@jpaulo33 definitely. I’ve driven the new one and have a old one.
@leonrambach12164 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's also to do with the torque curve. Could be that the new S3 got more torque on higher revs.
@momanskiakabiffbuz60044 жыл бұрын
Maybe they have different tires
@GezzyJ4 жыл бұрын
@@eriknygard3374 you'd be surprised
@panaceiasuberes64644 жыл бұрын
The video was posted 3 minutes ago and yet 10 people downvoted it. Had no idea Mat has so many exes.
@Incognito-wh4dv4 жыл бұрын
🤣
@ander30594 жыл бұрын
Downvoted? r/redditmoment
@ericpisch27324 жыл бұрын
2 very dull cars lol
@Andrew-wf6fi4 жыл бұрын
@@ericpisch2732 how?
@frankxu22724 жыл бұрын
Might be Audi engineers
@slamminx34 жыл бұрын
Battle of the GTI next? 7.5 vs 8 vs clubsport vs TCR? Maybe throw in the R for good measure
@dennisbernaerts64884 жыл бұрын
Yes good idea! Actually want to see the difference between tcr and R on longer straight.
@XASIHI4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got The old S3. I’ll still chose that one over the new one don’t like all the fake vents and the inside of the new S3 seems like they have used the cheap plastic. Not a fan.
@reflexfusion98303 жыл бұрын
@Dennis Hoffmann I mean i prefer the old old A3, S3 and RS3. The 8p
@XASIHI3 жыл бұрын
@Dennis Hoffmann no I’ll still have the older one 😂🤣
@ldus3 жыл бұрын
@Dennis Hoffmann The old one already looks old, no idea what everyone's on about...
@reflexfusion98303 жыл бұрын
@SC Yh no they don’t.....
@chasedwar211 ай бұрын
Sorry dude but I had the previous A3 and the current S3 interior is much better, the exterior has changed very little but at least the screen is much larger and integrated into the dash properly. That’s the case with many manufacturers, they all looked like additional thoughts but at least the previous A3 had the pop up screen rather than just a bolt on iPad on the dash board.
@raxu40744 жыл бұрын
Matt, turn the traction control completely off and your VAG engine will rev to red line... like so Matt can see this
@interiorcarstarts4 жыл бұрын
I’m planning on making cars when I’m older, but I won’t be hiding all the safety settings
@sausageseggandchips4 жыл бұрын
@Zeus A remap can do basically what you want. SA Tuning, for example, will remove both soft limiter and the top speed limiter when re-mapping VAG vehicles, plus introduce pops and bangs, it's entirely at the owners' discretion. I have a 2017 stage 2 B9 S4 tuned by the company with precisely those software alterations, this is my vehicle: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWS0aZywqrB1gKM
@sausageseggandchips4 жыл бұрын
@Zeus Take it to SA Tuning and they will remove it for you, it isn't difficult. Likewise any mapping company that develop their own software modifications. VAG (and others) only introduce these features due to an ever more nannying approach. If you do have an RS3 (and not a 1.1 Fiesta as I suspect) then it doesn't have magic software coding that cannot be modified, but unless a map is advertised as removing the limiter then it won't magically do so, the ECU needs to be told to remove it. I'm not sure you understand the basics to be honest but never mind. Cheerio.
@jakel94104 жыл бұрын
@@sausageseggandchips SA tuning are 10/10. Glad to see someone else who’s happy 👍 on my VW you CAN disable soft limiter by turning traction off and putting the clutch down. Will Rev out fully while stationary 😊
@jakel94104 жыл бұрын
@Zeus I didn’t think of that. Although I’m pretty sure it works without putting the clutch down 🤷🏻♂️
@theracingban4 жыл бұрын
I think overally aerodynamics also played a role , hence why the newer s3 did a little bit better
@irmenkop854 жыл бұрын
That's exactly the explanation for this video. New S3 is more aero than the old one. Except for that, their performance is pretty much identical.
@ericjackson66694 жыл бұрын
Id say its a different turbo, has different spooling and power band characteristics
@irmenkop854 жыл бұрын
@@ericjackson6669 Maybe, but this does not seem to affect the results. When the new S3 starts pulling away, it can only be related to aerodynamics. If it came from the turbo, the power rating would be higher than 310
@Syed_724 жыл бұрын
the old S3 has 1 camera more too
@animouierie4 жыл бұрын
3 years s3 against new one, the age can reduce the performance
@SkubertixCommunity4 жыл бұрын
Spoiler: The S3 won.
@AlejdiGallubja4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, i didnt want to waste my time
@ndivhorambau11494 жыл бұрын
😂
@TDSWar4 жыл бұрын
Ummm Spoiler Alert 😂
@Formulozza14 жыл бұрын
It lost, actually.
@kadenw9684 жыл бұрын
Lol
@ApothecaryTerry4 жыл бұрын
"Look what these guys are dealing with" - definite respect, putting up with Mat.
@aviationlba7474 жыл бұрын
The new S3 is hideous! Audi’s high performance cars are becoming too flashy, just like newer AMG and M cars. I much preferred the subtler looking German cars from a few years ago.
@ChrisDied4 жыл бұрын
K
@missileniall254 жыл бұрын
get a golf then
@aviationlba7474 жыл бұрын
@@missileniall25 Believe me, I would get a Golf R.
@adolflindgren30913 жыл бұрын
Just what I think! Its so sad...
@ChrisDied3 жыл бұрын
Just get one you like the look of then??????
@MikoMellic4 жыл бұрын
Cars nowadays. Losing engine, losing exhaust:(
@Yayane_4 жыл бұрын
The first S3 back in 2000s already have a 4cylinder...
@dr.science_01774 жыл бұрын
Well hate to brake it to you. Oil will run out eventually
@dragospahontu4 жыл бұрын
@@dr.science_0177 when will it run out? Maybe it's all a myth! How do you know?! What i know is that the old S3 had better materials.
@MikoMellic4 жыл бұрын
@@dragospahontu no, he's right. But that is still a long journey. It's not about health or environment. Just about money they made on "clean" electric energy
@Berke50504 жыл бұрын
If somebody is wondering why Cars keep getting quieter here is an explanation: Every few Years tightens the EU the emission regulation which forces the Car manufactures to make better particle filter between Engine and Exhaust. These enhanced particle filters are mostly thicker than less polution absorbing filters. And these thick Particle filters are also pretty good at absorbing sound which causes the quiet noises. I hope I could help someone with that
@givenmathebula67984 жыл бұрын
This channel is so addictive 😫
@Bmwe36compactBG4 жыл бұрын
Should do a drag race between all the s3 generations that would be interesting
@nikeelm4 жыл бұрын
i just commented the same lol
@Skb_mo4 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree! That would be really good to watch
@Bmwe36compactBG4 жыл бұрын
@@nikeelm has to happen!
@Cinderblox4 жыл бұрын
Upvote , been waiting for ages!
@grahamek864 жыл бұрын
The PPF will delay boost onset slightly so that would account for initial response. Once the turbo is loaded up though, it pulls through. I think the quoted weights are a little out as if the old S3 is a true 310hp, the new one would need to be 338 just to sit neck and neck. I'd be interested to see what revs both cars were doing at 70 and 100mph in 3rd and 4th gear to see how the ratios have changed as the boxes are both DQ381s.
@miguelangeldel63944 жыл бұрын
When u have a PPF/DPF u get more backpressure, which means u need more time to the turbo to load, since there is more force against the turbo spooling After some seconds, the backpressure is overpassed and is pretty much the same with/without PPF, then it all comes to the the real maximum boost aka the "midrange power". That is why u constantly see the non PPF pulling ahead initially (quicker boost), and then the PPF pulls away (more boost)
@isaacsparrey78944 жыл бұрын
I liked the guy in the old S3 he seem nice.
@odenms2584 жыл бұрын
holy sh*t, that fake vents add more downforce than expected XD
@der48151623424 жыл бұрын
its a nice joke in theory... but WHAT?
@csemionov4 жыл бұрын
said no one ever
@franciscoribeiro91034 жыл бұрын
Not more downforce, but less drag
@naturalbornhuman34504 жыл бұрын
When I first saw the thumbnail I thought this is q3 vs a3 😅 i feel like most hatchbacks have that “crossover look” nowadays
@rafaiki64 жыл бұрын
I agree, the same thing happened to BMW 1 Series smh.
@naturalbornhuman34504 жыл бұрын
@@rafaiki6 totally agree, that’s the car that came to my mind too
@KingdomPL4 жыл бұрын
@@rafaiki6 new puma , new Fiesta ... :(
@isimon.4 жыл бұрын
@@KingdomPL Puma yes, but the Fiesta? I mean the Puma is the Fiestas crossover version 😁 Focus looks worse imho.
@KingdomPL4 жыл бұрын
@@isimon. yeah , new Fiesta looks much higher at the back than the older shape.
@davidmilenkovic45154 жыл бұрын
Big big thanks and kudos to the filming crew for putting up with the rain and the horrible wather outside and a big thanks to you too Mat for all theese drag races that really makes my day in this grey corona siege time.
@GamingCornerYT4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a 2014 s3 in Java Green not seen any others about in my area, solid car so far. Not a huge fan of the new shape maybe looks better in the saloon? however not sure why there’s so many saloon s3s just get an s4/s5 if you want that... s3 should be sportback/ hatch
@iJoxhh4 жыл бұрын
I got an S3 saloon as I liked the shape and the S4 was too expensive and large
@mrb23494 жыл бұрын
Shout out to the amazing crew who makes these videos possible!
@yurielcundangan90904 жыл бұрын
Matt: Drag-RACE Everyone: Witnessess Greatness
@DaleSteel4 жыл бұрын
Brown nose
@PapaPedro10004 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see an “S” drag race with the new (diesel) vs. old (petrol) S4 and S6. All four cars so I know which to buy next. Please make it happen 🙏
@danhall57614 жыл бұрын
Why does drag racing matter? You’re it a serious buyer if that’s making your decision 🤣
@PapaPedro10004 жыл бұрын
@@danhall5761 Once the money is spent, it's gone. Serious or not....
@PapaPedro10004 жыл бұрын
@Do One I live in the land of the the unlimited Autobahns and can actually use the German single mum brumbrums. It is really fun
@Explosivo934 жыл бұрын
The old A3 still has that premium feel to it while the new one feels really cheap on the inside.
@lukes23744 жыл бұрын
Give us the looks of the old s3 with the new interior 👀👀
@adambailey70644 жыл бұрын
The car has more fake vents than mat has said “ so what exactly happened”
@TheDeve4 жыл бұрын
Yes, they ruin the look of the car
@bouabadahamid4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJWaoGmie9WFbZY
@JMNTN4 жыл бұрын
What bothers me even more is that they even put them on normal, non sline models.
@MrWaheedulHaque4 жыл бұрын
Carwow and mat watson helping people through lockdown since 2020 💜💜💜
@xwkjl4 жыл бұрын
so nobody noticed how beauty the old one is compared to the new one?🥲
@xenophonpapadopoulos58174 жыл бұрын
Buy the old one get a stage 2 big turbo setup for less than 10.000 beat the new rs3 without even sweating
@ryanfrisby73894 жыл бұрын
Awesome race Mat! I agree, mad props to the Carwow filming and editing crew!😸😸
@jonburnell5324 жыл бұрын
Agree on the final point, the film crews never get enough respect. So big thanks to everyone behind the cameras 🙌
@BoomNL4 жыл бұрын
Curious about the milage of the 2017 S3, i think that one has some carbon buildup and thats why its dropping behind at higher RPM
@iJoxhh4 жыл бұрын
Mileage was 8,500 in June 2020. So probably still less than 10k! No carbon build up there
@stephenhoward46674 жыл бұрын
If the car has only done short trips that would explain low mileage and also carbon deposits. I've also seen tests where fresh engine oil makes a difference so when was the oil last changed?
@iJoxhh4 жыл бұрын
@@stephenhoward4667 Not sure but if good fuel was used there shouldn't be any build up on a non opf car
@2580ben4 жыл бұрын
Hi its my car it's on 15k now you're right though lots of short journeys in the first 8 k but been on many longer ones since then!
@ahmedaziz38534 жыл бұрын
World:under cover with the coronavirus Mat: *Is it any quicker* 😆
@vwgti34144 жыл бұрын
I prefer the old one inside & outside...i'm not interested in efficiency and electronic gadgets...😴😴
@ChrisDied4 жыл бұрын
K
@giorgospetinarelis90964 жыл бұрын
Yes but you must agree that Audi finaly didn' t give access to an interior terrible ''gadgetoid'' cockpit design with no endless tablet panels like A45 AMG for example
@ChrisDied4 жыл бұрын
@@giorgospetinarelis9096 whats wrong with tablets?? More tablets = better
@vwgti34144 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisDied It distracts & therefore dangerous....
@ChrisDied4 жыл бұрын
@@vwgti3414 k
@tcecoleshaw4 жыл бұрын
New S3 for me. I suspect the marginally slower response times are imperceptible and slightly more fuel efficient. More efficient and quicker overall.
@HughRussell064 жыл бұрын
I wonder if mat could ever make a video without saying: “Click the pop out banner in the top right corner of the screen”
@backyardengineering8164 жыл бұрын
Matt dies God: so then, what exactly happened
@crazehayes14 жыл бұрын
BBC: COV1D
@palaniyappankannan35754 жыл бұрын
Mat: I'm sat in the new audi s3 Me: ofc ur sat in the new car 😂
@iacopomosconi60824 жыл бұрын
How many kilometers the 8V has? How it was driven? In which conditions? Maintenance? Brake pads, oil, wheels and disc status? Pretty no sense without these specified
@konradadamarek94244 жыл бұрын
As always great video. :) But this difference isn't worth paying 13 000 £ extra for new model. Also I think the older 2017 model is better looking.
@tan96404 жыл бұрын
I think if you put the new s3 on a dyno I suspect it’ll have abit more power than claimed
@parismalaspinas24884 жыл бұрын
I would personally go for the 2017 model since i prefer the exterior and interior design of it..plus is much cheaper and the performance is identical
@Astke4 жыл бұрын
Of i had the money for an S3 I'd rather get an M135i xDrive. After all the S3 is a Golf R anyway.
@parismalaspinas24884 жыл бұрын
@@Astke it really isn't but even if it was the golf r is a great car?
@glenclough90804 жыл бұрын
@@Astke no the S3 is an S3 it may share an engine with the Golf R but that’s where the comparison stops
@TheEryk034 жыл бұрын
Not long time ago all morons like you wrote "meeh S3 interior looks so old I dont like it" Now "meeh new one is weaker" Morons gonna be morons.
@gabrielvanya82454 жыл бұрын
Just take a Leon Cupra. They are always faster than both of those, especially with FWD Cupras slap on the track. Oh and its cheaper too btw
@tht140ixx4 жыл бұрын
Need to get some Pre-OPF RS3 involved😎
@sylvaind.67864 жыл бұрын
Already done 🙄
@snakeeyes92464 жыл бұрын
He's already done a race between an RS3 with the filter vs one without.
@shamil8084 жыл бұрын
Thank you carwow film crew for putting up with Mat and the weather. 👍
@thenikoneye4 жыл бұрын
Nice video Mat!! Why don't you add some utility car Moose tests? Drag Tests are great, but usually they are about vehicles that many of the subscribers will never be able to buy and sometimes I only look at the most radical or diverse. The Davids vs. Goliaths tests are great and one day, for example, you could put a professional driver in a Suv versus an amateur driver with a powerful car. they are just ideas. It is one of my favorite channels. happy New Year!
@maverick41774 жыл бұрын
And this also highlights that the old version actually looks better 👍🏻
@dilysi1564 жыл бұрын
I guess the 310 hp isn't exactly the real power. The new S3 might have some extra hp on the dyno and a bit more mid range power
@slats19874 жыл бұрын
Doubt it, just the individual characteristics of each engine. They don't all behave exactly the same, if you had 2 identical cars each engine would behave slightly different.
@ssllhh1004 жыл бұрын
knowing direct injection petrols with EGR the older car has a shit ton of carbon build up even with the dual injection
@CallOfDoodeh4 жыл бұрын
They’ve probably mapped the DSG gearbox differently on the new one to change up quicker, therefore countering the weight gain
@dilysi1564 жыл бұрын
True true. The real question now is how they would behave on a track. Because after all, they're sportcars aren't they? 😏
@jeetsupa43624 жыл бұрын
Could be a bit more power, or the aerodynamics are bit better
@robuzz4 жыл бұрын
Cars are no fun nowadays because they sound like weak vacuums
@Nnn300554 жыл бұрын
It makes no sense to me too as more and more people turn to electric cars shouldn’t it give the petrol alternatives leeway to remain the same
@neilmurphy8454 жыл бұрын
As I said before the hoover sounds way better than the new 4 cylinder
@Multivitamin024 жыл бұрын
thats why i'm realy happy that i got a Fiesta ST last year. Sounds great, even stock, no soft limiter, drives great even without the performance pack, good as a daily driver and also on longer travels, manuell handbrake, awesome seats and probably the best engine in its class. But yeah: cars nowadays often sound like vacuums which kills lot of the fun
@neilmurphy8454 жыл бұрын
@@Multivitamin02 I think it's because they run to lean there's only air going through the exhaust
@Astke4 жыл бұрын
So because they make less noise they are less fun? What? You are just as quick or quicker yet you can do it stealthily. It's a win-win in my book.
@cussmustard4748Күн бұрын
What was mileage on the 2017 during testing? It was four years old during the comparison. Is it possible it slightly underperformed due to normal wear?
@markturner17224 жыл бұрын
Old S3 I’ve still got 66 plate S3 convertible! Awesome car ! Great job guys all the crew 👍🏻
@nub3924 жыл бұрын
Mmmmm the old RS3 is top on the soundtest Sound Rev limiter 🤦🏻♂️
@PurplePandaGuy884 жыл бұрын
The old S3 sounds better than the new one but I’d prefer to have the new S3 Also a big thanks to the carwow film crew for bringing us all these amazing videos The best car review/ test channel on KZbin in my opinion
@ironikzzz__80564 жыл бұрын
We need the m140i vs m135i that was a close race 👍
@shiv1354 жыл бұрын
Yeah and should add in the old M135i in the mix as well
@Jehco144 жыл бұрын
It's quite impressive from the new S3 to beat the old one despite the weight difference. I believe this is what is making the old S3 take the edge on initial start (especially in the second rolling race), but then there's probably indeed a slightly more "filled" power curve on the newer engine which helps, probably also less losses along the drive line and certainly a lower drag coefficient which ends up governing the race as the speed increases. However, I think your Go Pros could be somewhat faking the result at high speeds as they become significant sources of aerodynamic drag themselves. When the gap between the car is significant, it's unlikely to affect significantly the result, but when it's a close call and that you have to reach crazy speeds, then I can guarantee it's not fully representative anymore. I know the aim of this channel is not to do rigorous science but well, it's just my engineering view on it :) On the other hand, your brake test is always problematic especially again when cars are close. Checking a 10 cm difference once stopped makes no sense when I can guarantee again that there has very likely been much more than 10 cm difference in your respective braking points. You should use the Driftbox or anything similar which really measures the distance to have a clear winner (even tough we could also argue that the grip might be different on both sides of the runway). Again, I understand it's not the aim of these videos but it's still worth mentioning. I think Mat should sometimes just remind people of these limitations so that they don't take those apparent results like the Bible.
@rainho214 жыл бұрын
Did You ever tried turn off the ESP while stationary and in neutral? That way the car revs all the way to redline, at least my mk6 golf does that.. I think that is the way to go.. Great video by the way ;)
@michaelmeckies70724 жыл бұрын
01:34 this video was made almost 3 months ago.🤦🏾♂️
@disorder_go4 жыл бұрын
I think they do a bunch of drag races at once for future uploads.
@BT-ot6gm4 жыл бұрын
Who cares 😂
@TheoDaJunk4 жыл бұрын
This what they were doing a day after my birthday 😂 damn these guys must have endless amounts of videos if they are three months behind who knows mat retired and we'll still have a year supply of videos
@thomaspavlov49304 жыл бұрын
Matt: driving 140 mph Also Matt: iNteResTinGGG
@RR-ht9db4 жыл бұрын
Wow the new S3 looks great. But the old one has still aged so well!
@williamworgan86474 жыл бұрын
lets intro this frequent other driver he seems like a cool dude ! i prefer the styling of the older s3 too so id probs go for that one especially with it sounding nicer too.
@connorcheetham45494 жыл бұрын
How does it feel being a top gear replacement for some people while top gear literally has a youtube channel? you guys are killing it
@steenfraosterbro32684 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see how many HP the old one has lost over time.
@canalacelerando59604 жыл бұрын
A car that new probably gained some HP vs a new one.
@raccs6004 жыл бұрын
@Do One had same issue with my diesel dpf clogged clapped it on highway at 100mph for 20 min .... nothing. Thinking about doing delete & gain more hp but warranty will deff be voided
@2580ben4 жыл бұрын
The older one is mine it has less than 15k miles on the clock I'm not sure it's lost many! I think the track condition effected it the most
@Spiritcr1jsher2 жыл бұрын
I have had cars with 100k miles that didn't lose power. Usually they are a bit faster after some miles have been put on . Especially a 3 year old audi s.
@Floppshot4 жыл бұрын
When are we going to see some super cars vs sleepers. It’s about time to see the sleepers put the super cars to sleep.
@DonPablo20114 жыл бұрын
"So what exactly happened"? It was "interesting".
@giorgospetinarelis90964 жыл бұрын
Matt probably expected the new S3 could ''rip'' or ''destroy'' the old one. Anyway this seems very ''ambitius''' between cars very close in tech and with no remarkable difference in weight
@falingsnow4 жыл бұрын
s4 owner here, if you let the car start to roll a little 1-2 mph then slip into neutral it will rev to the red line.
@Otot_B6 ай бұрын
I drive the 8V S3 and found the gearing to be somewhat sluggish. a DSG tune fixed this and brought it to life. imagine that could do wonders to the new model too
@dometr92544 жыл бұрын
like even the Golf 8 Gti sounds way better than the S3...always Audi‘s that have absolutely no sound since the filters are a thing...why??
@av13324 жыл бұрын
Even the golf mk7.5r sounds better
@dometr92544 жыл бұрын
@Tekay bran i know but the thing is, why are vw‘s allowed to have a much louder exhaust than audi? makes no sense
@dometr92544 жыл бұрын
@Tekay bran yea, good point
@dometr92544 жыл бұрын
@Mitrax zero emotions, thats all i need to say ;)
@dometr92544 жыл бұрын
@Mitrax zero guess im not a „regular“ person ;)
@jhn35354 жыл бұрын
Mat is like:' let's do another drag race'
@worldpeace63224 жыл бұрын
Mat's "OH MY GOD" sounded like Janice
@thomasnijland11953 жыл бұрын
Our VW also has a soft limiter but when I turn the steering wheel all the way to the left or right is revs up to the redline..... kinda weird. Maybe it works on Audi's and other cars ??
@omnipresentvideo76864 жыл бұрын
Curious what coefficient of drag on both cars
@sibusisosibisi61724 жыл бұрын
Lmao "They've been adding weight all this time "
@jimclements31904 жыл бұрын
Latest vw golf GTI is twice as heavy as first generation mk1,but also 220hp against mk1s 110.
@הירשמולערוץ-ס8נ4 жыл бұрын
2:33 Thank me later
@lexuslfa47394 жыл бұрын
How did you know that when the video has just been uploaded
@JTM6104 жыл бұрын
@@lexuslfa4739 because he skipped to the relevant part???
@AndreiAndrei-rt4po4 жыл бұрын
@@JTM610 you can't because is live 🤣
@JTM6104 жыл бұрын
@@AndreiAndrei-rt4po I don't understand
@SAlpha54 жыл бұрын
Real viewers watch the whole vdo
@mahelimousin92284 жыл бұрын
Do a drag race with all generations of Audi RS3 (stock), it could be very interesting !
@samuelharris24734 жыл бұрын
I like the additional quick insight from the other driver. He's got some bonus observations on the cars.
@user-gb1oi1qo1j4 жыл бұрын
Matt if you turn traction control off I think it turns off the soft limiter at 4k revs . Definitely works that way on my 7.5 Gti (manual) - might work on these too?
@ramcharanbaishya68724 жыл бұрын
The old Audi s3 driver be like : don't show my face .!
@playboilit24244 жыл бұрын
The old s3 looks like an amazing bargain to me tho
@triumphfork92683 жыл бұрын
I bought one last week and I’m absolutely loving it
@playboilit24243 жыл бұрын
@@triumphfork9268 enjoy it bro. amazing car.
@triumphfork92683 жыл бұрын
@@playboilit2424 thanks bro!
@AyyLondon4 жыл бұрын
petrol particulate filters have ruined the sound of performance cars, that why I will probably only buy cars without them pre 2018ish for the foreseeable future, such a shame as I miss out on the new cars
@davesoton204 жыл бұрын
There is some odd variation in S3 performance. So the old S3 is the same speed as the yellow S3 from a while ago that was thought to be tuned? Are we saying that red saloon S3 we've seen lots of is just a bit rubbish? By the way, have you done any tests of the old S3 when it's in Dynamic and Dynamic with the exhaust fully open? Always wondered if it actually makes any difference other than sound.
@user-ss7sy5jg1c2 ай бұрын
As that 2017 s3 is the 306bhp (310 ps). It would be interesting to get a 19 plate s3 as that one went back to 296bhp due to emissions ,, it would be good to get that race goin , or all stock s3 drag race
@briish00164 жыл бұрын
The intro: ‘Ello ‘ow are you
@KangoV4 жыл бұрын
For fun driving on UK roads, I'd have the more responsive engine.
@DIZZYDAZZLER20114 жыл бұрын
I think AUDI are trying to match the sweeeet sound of Tesla's cars.....LOL
@garosama45174 жыл бұрын
True. At least Audis look way better
@andrewgoodsell40634 жыл бұрын
Would love to see some more comparisons old models vs new models. See what the difference in performance is.
@nikeelm2 жыл бұрын
i also would like to see a 8L vs a 8p , vs 8v1 vs 8v2 vs 8y
@swanblake4 жыл бұрын
I would trade a tenth of a second for the sound, weight, less malfunctioning electronics, and looks of the prior gen
@Bestwick19834 жыл бұрын
The new one looks like a hideous little mini-SUV
@PPGNI4 жыл бұрын
The silver one being older and hence “well run in” could make the difference in gear ?
@manenwan4 жыл бұрын
the yellow one is a press car so i dont think its also well ran
@egooooooooo4 жыл бұрын
not really
@avaragewanker78234 жыл бұрын
3 2 1 in woman's voice while a bearded guy is giving the start :D
@ApothecaryTerry4 жыл бұрын
HRT.
@BRS.F14 жыл бұрын
PLEASE do this Drag Race!: 2021BMW //M3 compition, Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifolio, Maserati Quattroporte Trofeo, Mercedes C63 //AMG sedan, May seem an odd mix but all RWD v8/v6 👍🏻
@LostAtSe4 жыл бұрын
You know what I would love from your reviews, the only thing missing for me - some kind of refinement sound test. Like a score out of 10 under solid test conditions for how quiet inside the car is, maybe even a league table?