New Audi S3 vs old S3: DRAG RACE *Is it any quicker?*

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@carwow
@carwow 4 жыл бұрын
Right, let's settle this... New S3 vs old S3, which would you rather have? VOTE in the comments below!
@carwow
@carwow 4 жыл бұрын
VOTE: New S3!
@carwow
@carwow 4 жыл бұрын
VOTE: Old S3!
@kiratdadrah8676
@kiratdadrah8676 4 жыл бұрын
I voted both lol
@shaheerburney398
@shaheerburney398 4 жыл бұрын
The old one is winning
@dahen9291
@dahen9291 4 жыл бұрын
hey matt
@ZxTennent01xZ
@ZxTennent01xZ 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve found a video I can watch, I can eat now
@manenwan
@manenwan 4 жыл бұрын
YES EXACTLY
@connorgatchell9186
@connorgatchell9186 4 жыл бұрын
That is so much too!
@doctorsoncars1393
@doctorsoncars1393 4 жыл бұрын
I hope your food didn't go cold
@tawanamakotsi9839
@tawanamakotsi9839 4 жыл бұрын
I found this video right after I finished eating Worst feeling ever😭😭😭
@Cartman5101
@Cartman5101 4 жыл бұрын
hahh me too
@murraysampson2501
@murraysampson2501 4 жыл бұрын
I think the wind in the microphone made more noise than the exhaust on the new S3!
@qjcbciwbcy1738
@qjcbciwbcy1738 4 жыл бұрын
True
@Berke5050
@Berke5050 4 жыл бұрын
If somebody is wondering why Cars keep getting quieter here is an explanation: Every few Years tightens the EU the emission regulation which forces the Car manufactures to make better particle filter between Engine and Exhaust. These enhanced particle filters are mostly thicker than less polution absorbing filters. And these thick Particle filters are also pretty good at absorbing sound which causes the quiet noises. I hope I could help someone with that
@rory787
@rory787 4 жыл бұрын
@@Berke5050 we know why they do it we just wish they wouldn't aha
@adibafiq6945
@adibafiq6945 4 жыл бұрын
@@rory787 not everyone knows it
@djoetma
@djoetma 4 жыл бұрын
@@Berke5050 It's also the choice of the manufacturer. They tune the exhaust sound, thus can make them sound different, louder and more quiet. We've seen it in F1 f.e. where Force India tried a trumpet exhaust just to make more sound.
@autonewstv86
@autonewstv86 4 жыл бұрын
I liked the guy in the old S3 he seem nice. Love Drag race of Matt ❤️
@saudimtiyaz
@saudimtiyaz 4 жыл бұрын
Waiting for matt to introduce that person to us🤞
@Talwar3k
@Talwar3k 4 жыл бұрын
It's the same guy that tells the channels on the radio.
@ermal1656
@ermal1656 4 жыл бұрын
Cc g74z@
@caszzxs4104
@caszzxs4104 4 жыл бұрын
Same here! 😊
@omnipresentvideo7686
@omnipresentvideo7686 4 жыл бұрын
Were you the guy in the Audi? Jk
@dimosk7389
@dimosk7389 4 жыл бұрын
you need to hire the guy in the old S3...sounds nice, and his launch and braking reactions are spot on
@manlymantis101
@manlymantis101 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure he’s a part of the team, I recognize his voice as one of the drivers in pretty much every video.
@Minto107
@Minto107 4 жыл бұрын
This guy is in almost every carwow drag race and he didn't want his identity to be revealed
@dimosk7389
@dimosk7389 4 жыл бұрын
I stand corrected guys. I thought he was the owner of the old S3, didn't recognize his voice
@2580ben
@2580ben 4 жыл бұрын
It's my car! I'd like to say thanks but was not me driving!
@OriginalGriff
@OriginalGriff 4 жыл бұрын
@@Minto107 You mean ... he is The Stig? :D
@dylanw890
@dylanw890 4 жыл бұрын
I think the old S3 is just elegant while the new S3 seems like its trying to be a Lamborghini which is a shame because I love the A3,S3,RS3
@gtx332
@gtx332 4 жыл бұрын
agree, the rear looks like the little 'angry bird' face from the s1
@esthermezhu9297
@esthermezhu9297 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, right it matches Lamborghini's styling a lot. But what to do, nowadays its the new typical styling on newer audi's, to make it look sharper. But don't you worry, its not at all inspired by the Lamborghini's styling, its the styling for it's own the "S3".
@falcongamer58
@falcongamer58 3 жыл бұрын
2000s Audis looked so smooth and round
@dannya6227
@dannya6227 4 жыл бұрын
mats first words when born hi everyone mat watson here from carwow
@AlanLands
@AlanLands 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah true😂😂
@Ss-zn3hg
@Ss-zn3hg 4 жыл бұрын
Always
@shaheerburney398
@shaheerburney398 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@yamangalongwe7419
@yamangalongwe7419 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@BarryShite25
@BarryShite25 4 жыл бұрын
Laaaaaaaaaaaaame
@audriusbaranauskas6227
@audriusbaranauskas6227 4 жыл бұрын
At the Audi factory: -Hey Hans, we must give the new S3 more might and violence!!! -Waaat? Was that more weight and silence…?
@damireagle
@damireagle 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@BRS.F1
@BRS.F1 4 жыл бұрын
🤣 so true
@The-Relic-Hunter
@The-Relic-Hunter 4 жыл бұрын
😅😅😅😬so true
@Matrix_Spirit
@Matrix_Spirit 4 жыл бұрын
Thats good one. :D Bullseye. 🤣
@thelotus2341
@thelotus2341 4 жыл бұрын
😅😅😅🤣 Good one.
@andras.89
@andras.89 4 жыл бұрын
I'd choose the old one, anytime without hasitation.
@oliverwattley7394
@oliverwattley7394 4 жыл бұрын
I may be biased because I have one but for the money the old one is way better
@MM-br3lv
@MM-br3lv 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t get it. The new one just looks like a meatier version on the Audi A1. Another reason to not buy an Audi...
@pb5x5
@pb5x5 4 жыл бұрын
I'd just get which ever is more involving to drive day to day as quick in a straight line doesn't alway mean the most fun.
@humanperson4605
@humanperson4605 4 жыл бұрын
@@pb5x5 in theory, from the stats, the old one would be more fun as it weighs less.
@edoalva48
@edoalva48 4 жыл бұрын
Audi is losing their touch. They focused too much on design as in visual aspect, the updated version looks great but in functionality aspect it's not as good as it used to be.
@Dynamix15
@Dynamix15 4 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or the old s3 still looks “new”
@TheTranfan
@TheTranfan 4 жыл бұрын
Well it's only 3 years old
@robertjusic9097
@robertjusic9097 4 жыл бұрын
Here in croatia anything newer than 2013 is new
@stopp23
@stopp23 4 жыл бұрын
Every Audi age well
@bennetulbricht9922
@bennetulbricht9922 4 жыл бұрын
Not if you take a look inside 😬
@2580ben
@2580ben 4 жыл бұрын
@@bennetulbricht9922 the inside of this one has the new cock pit that helps it look a bit newer but does have the old mmi screen that makes it look a bit older than the newer ones!
@JMNTN
@JMNTN 4 жыл бұрын
The old one looks so much cleaner, the new one reminds me of a honda civic with all the obviously fake vents
@Chocobohunter
@Chocobohunter 3 жыл бұрын
Bro thats what ive been saying, i have the 17 civic hatch, traded it in yesterday for the 2020 s3, never been happier dont like those new vents
@ScottPC
@ScottPC 4 жыл бұрын
It’s the gear ratios. There longer on the new car for emissions. Hence how the old cad accelerates a little harder.
@jpaulo33
@jpaulo33 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe aero is improved on the new one and the acceleration of the old one comes from the fact it's lighter? Just guessing because the new one would perform better as speed goes up.
@ScottPC
@ScottPC 4 жыл бұрын
@@jpaulo33 definitely. I’ve driven the new one and have a old one.
@leonrambach1216
@leonrambach1216 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's also to do with the torque curve. Could be that the new S3 got more torque on higher revs.
@momanskiakabiffbuz6004
@momanskiakabiffbuz6004 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe they have different tires
@GezzyJ
@GezzyJ 4 жыл бұрын
@@eriknygard3374 you'd be surprised
@panaceiasuberes6464
@panaceiasuberes6464 4 жыл бұрын
The video was posted 3 minutes ago and yet 10 people downvoted it. Had no idea Mat has so many exes.
@Incognito-wh4dv
@Incognito-wh4dv 4 жыл бұрын
🤣
@ander3059
@ander3059 4 жыл бұрын
Downvoted? r/redditmoment
@ericpisch2732
@ericpisch2732 4 жыл бұрын
2 very dull cars lol
@Andrew-wf6fi
@Andrew-wf6fi 4 жыл бұрын
@@ericpisch2732 how?
@frankxu2272
@frankxu2272 4 жыл бұрын
Might be Audi engineers
@slamminx3
@slamminx3 4 жыл бұрын
Battle of the GTI next? 7.5 vs 8 vs clubsport vs TCR? Maybe throw in the R for good measure
@dennisbernaerts6488
@dennisbernaerts6488 4 жыл бұрын
Yes good idea! Actually want to see the difference between tcr and R on longer straight.
@XASIHI
@XASIHI 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got The old S3. I’ll still chose that one over the new one don’t like all the fake vents and the inside of the new S3 seems like they have used the cheap plastic. Not a fan.
@reflexfusion9830
@reflexfusion9830 3 жыл бұрын
@Dennis Hoffmann I mean i prefer the old old A3, S3 and RS3. The 8p
@XASIHI
@XASIHI 3 жыл бұрын
@Dennis Hoffmann no I’ll still have the older one 😂🤣
@ldus
@ldus 3 жыл бұрын
@Dennis Hoffmann The old one already looks old, no idea what everyone's on about...
@reflexfusion9830
@reflexfusion9830 3 жыл бұрын
@SC Yh no they don’t.....
@chasedwar2
@chasedwar2 11 ай бұрын
Sorry dude but I had the previous A3 and the current S3 interior is much better, the exterior has changed very little but at least the screen is much larger and integrated into the dash properly. That’s the case with many manufacturers, they all looked like additional thoughts but at least the previous A3 had the pop up screen rather than just a bolt on iPad on the dash board.
@raxu4074
@raxu4074 4 жыл бұрын
Matt, turn the traction control completely off and your VAG engine will rev to red line... like so Matt can see this
@interiorcarstarts
@interiorcarstarts 4 жыл бұрын
I’m planning on making cars when I’m older, but I won’t be hiding all the safety settings
@sausageseggandchips
@sausageseggandchips 4 жыл бұрын
​@Zeus A remap can do basically what you want. SA Tuning, for example, will remove both soft limiter and the top speed limiter when re-mapping VAG vehicles, plus introduce pops and bangs, it's entirely at the owners' discretion. I have a 2017 stage 2 B9 S4 tuned by the company with precisely those software alterations, this is my vehicle: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWS0aZywqrB1gKM
@sausageseggandchips
@sausageseggandchips 4 жыл бұрын
@Zeus Take it to SA Tuning and they will remove it for you, it isn't difficult. Likewise any mapping company that develop their own software modifications. VAG (and others) only introduce these features due to an ever more nannying approach. If you do have an RS3 (and not a 1.1 Fiesta as I suspect) then it doesn't have magic software coding that cannot be modified, but unless a map is advertised as removing the limiter then it won't magically do so, the ECU needs to be told to remove it. I'm not sure you understand the basics to be honest but never mind. Cheerio.
@jakel9410
@jakel9410 4 жыл бұрын
@@sausageseggandchips SA tuning are 10/10. Glad to see someone else who’s happy 👍 on my VW you CAN disable soft limiter by turning traction off and putting the clutch down. Will Rev out fully while stationary 😊
@jakel9410
@jakel9410 4 жыл бұрын
@Zeus I didn’t think of that. Although I’m pretty sure it works without putting the clutch down 🤷🏻‍♂️
@theracingban
@theracingban 4 жыл бұрын
I think overally aerodynamics also played a role , hence why the newer s3 did a little bit better
@irmenkop85
@irmenkop85 4 жыл бұрын
That's exactly the explanation for this video. New S3 is more aero than the old one. Except for that, their performance is pretty much identical.
@ericjackson6669
@ericjackson6669 4 жыл бұрын
Id say its a different turbo, has different spooling and power band characteristics
@irmenkop85
@irmenkop85 4 жыл бұрын
@@ericjackson6669 Maybe, but this does not seem to affect the results. When the new S3 starts pulling away, it can only be related to aerodynamics. If it came from the turbo, the power rating would be higher than 310
@Syed_72
@Syed_72 4 жыл бұрын
the old S3 has 1 camera more too
@animouierie
@animouierie 4 жыл бұрын
3 years s3 against new one, the age can reduce the performance
@SkubertixCommunity
@SkubertixCommunity 4 жыл бұрын
Spoiler: The S3 won.
@AlejdiGallubja
@AlejdiGallubja 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, i didnt want to waste my time
@ndivhorambau1149
@ndivhorambau1149 4 жыл бұрын
😂
@TDSWar
@TDSWar 4 жыл бұрын
Ummm Spoiler Alert 😂
@Formulozza1
@Formulozza1 4 жыл бұрын
It lost, actually.
@kadenw968
@kadenw968 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@ApothecaryTerry
@ApothecaryTerry 4 жыл бұрын
"Look what these guys are dealing with" - definite respect, putting up with Mat.
@aviationlba747
@aviationlba747 4 жыл бұрын
The new S3 is hideous! Audi’s high performance cars are becoming too flashy, just like newer AMG and M cars. I much preferred the subtler looking German cars from a few years ago.
@ChrisDied
@ChrisDied 4 жыл бұрын
K
@missileniall25
@missileniall25 4 жыл бұрын
get a golf then
@aviationlba747
@aviationlba747 4 жыл бұрын
@@missileniall25 Believe me, I would get a Golf R.
@adolflindgren3091
@adolflindgren3091 3 жыл бұрын
Just what I think! Its so sad...
@ChrisDied
@ChrisDied 3 жыл бұрын
Just get one you like the look of then??????
@MikoMellic
@MikoMellic 4 жыл бұрын
Cars nowadays. Losing engine, losing exhaust:(
@Yayane_
@Yayane_ 4 жыл бұрын
The first S3 back in 2000s already have a 4cylinder...
@dr.science_0177
@dr.science_0177 4 жыл бұрын
Well hate to brake it to you. Oil will run out eventually
@dragospahontu
@dragospahontu 4 жыл бұрын
@@dr.science_0177 when will it run out? Maybe it's all a myth! How do you know?! What i know is that the old S3 had better materials.
@MikoMellic
@MikoMellic 4 жыл бұрын
@@dragospahontu no, he's right. But that is still a long journey. It's not about health or environment. Just about money they made on "clean" electric energy
@Berke5050
@Berke5050 4 жыл бұрын
If somebody is wondering why Cars keep getting quieter here is an explanation: Every few Years tightens the EU the emission regulation which forces the Car manufactures to make better particle filter between Engine and Exhaust. These enhanced particle filters are mostly thicker than less polution absorbing filters. And these thick Particle filters are also pretty good at absorbing sound which causes the quiet noises. I hope I could help someone with that
@givenmathebula6798
@givenmathebula6798 4 жыл бұрын
This channel is so addictive 😫
@Bmwe36compactBG
@Bmwe36compactBG 4 жыл бұрын
Should do a drag race between all the s3 generations that would be interesting
@nikeelm
@nikeelm 4 жыл бұрын
i just commented the same lol
@Skb_mo
@Skb_mo 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree! That would be really good to watch
@Bmwe36compactBG
@Bmwe36compactBG 4 жыл бұрын
@@nikeelm has to happen!
@Cinderblox
@Cinderblox 4 жыл бұрын
Upvote , been waiting for ages!
@grahamek86
@grahamek86 4 жыл бұрын
The PPF will delay boost onset slightly so that would account for initial response. Once the turbo is loaded up though, it pulls through. I think the quoted weights are a little out as if the old S3 is a true 310hp, the new one would need to be 338 just to sit neck and neck. I'd be interested to see what revs both cars were doing at 70 and 100mph in 3rd and 4th gear to see how the ratios have changed as the boxes are both DQ381s.
@miguelangeldel6394
@miguelangeldel6394 4 жыл бұрын
When u have a PPF/DPF u get more backpressure, which means u need more time to the turbo to load, since there is more force against the turbo spooling After some seconds, the backpressure is overpassed and is pretty much the same with/without PPF, then it all comes to the the real maximum boost aka the "midrange power". That is why u constantly see the non PPF pulling ahead initially (quicker boost), and then the PPF pulls away (more boost)
@isaacsparrey7894
@isaacsparrey7894 4 жыл бұрын
I liked the guy in the old S3 he seem nice.
@odenms258
@odenms258 4 жыл бұрын
holy sh*t, that fake vents add more downforce than expected XD
@der4815162342
@der4815162342 4 жыл бұрын
its a nice joke in theory... but WHAT?
@csemionov
@csemionov 4 жыл бұрын
said no one ever
@franciscoribeiro9103
@franciscoribeiro9103 4 жыл бұрын
Not more downforce, but less drag
@naturalbornhuman3450
@naturalbornhuman3450 4 жыл бұрын
When I first saw the thumbnail I thought this is q3 vs a3 😅 i feel like most hatchbacks have that “crossover look” nowadays
@rafaiki6
@rafaiki6 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, the same thing happened to BMW 1 Series smh.
@naturalbornhuman3450
@naturalbornhuman3450 4 жыл бұрын
@@rafaiki6 totally agree, that’s the car that came to my mind too
@KingdomPL
@KingdomPL 4 жыл бұрын
@@rafaiki6 new puma , new Fiesta ... :(
@isimon.
@isimon. 4 жыл бұрын
@@KingdomPL Puma yes, but the Fiesta? I mean the Puma is the Fiestas crossover version 😁 Focus looks worse imho.
@KingdomPL
@KingdomPL 4 жыл бұрын
@@isimon. yeah , new Fiesta looks much higher at the back than the older shape.
@davidmilenkovic4515
@davidmilenkovic4515 4 жыл бұрын
Big big thanks and kudos to the filming crew for putting up with the rain and the horrible wather outside and a big thanks to you too Mat for all theese drag races that really makes my day in this grey corona siege time.
@GamingCornerYT
@GamingCornerYT 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a 2014 s3 in Java Green not seen any others about in my area, solid car so far. Not a huge fan of the new shape maybe looks better in the saloon? however not sure why there’s so many saloon s3s just get an s4/s5 if you want that... s3 should be sportback/ hatch
@iJoxhh
@iJoxhh 4 жыл бұрын
I got an S3 saloon as I liked the shape and the S4 was too expensive and large
@mrb2349
@mrb2349 4 жыл бұрын
Shout out to the amazing crew who makes these videos possible!
@yurielcundangan9090
@yurielcundangan9090 4 жыл бұрын
Matt: Drag-RACE Everyone: Witnessess Greatness
@DaleSteel
@DaleSteel 4 жыл бұрын
Brown nose
@PapaPedro1000
@PapaPedro1000 4 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see an “S” drag race with the new (diesel) vs. old (petrol) S4 and S6. All four cars so I know which to buy next. Please make it happen 🙏
@danhall5761
@danhall5761 4 жыл бұрын
Why does drag racing matter? You’re it a serious buyer if that’s making your decision 🤣
@PapaPedro1000
@PapaPedro1000 4 жыл бұрын
@@danhall5761 Once the money is spent, it's gone. Serious or not....
@PapaPedro1000
@PapaPedro1000 4 жыл бұрын
@Do One I live in the land of the the unlimited Autobahns and can actually use the German single mum brumbrums. It is really fun
@Explosivo93
@Explosivo93 4 жыл бұрын
The old A3 still has that premium feel to it while the new one feels really cheap on the inside.
@lukes2374
@lukes2374 4 жыл бұрын
Give us the looks of the old s3 with the new interior 👀👀
@adambailey7064
@adambailey7064 4 жыл бұрын
The car has more fake vents than mat has said “ so what exactly happened”
@TheDeve
@TheDeve 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, they ruin the look of the car
@bouabadahamid
@bouabadahamid 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJWaoGmie9WFbZY
@JMNTN
@JMNTN 4 жыл бұрын
What bothers me even more is that they even put them on normal, non sline models.
@MrWaheedulHaque
@MrWaheedulHaque 4 жыл бұрын
Carwow and mat watson helping people through lockdown since 2020 💜💜💜
@xwkjl
@xwkjl 4 жыл бұрын
so nobody noticed how beauty the old one is compared to the new one?🥲
@xenophonpapadopoulos5817
@xenophonpapadopoulos5817 4 жыл бұрын
Buy the old one get a stage 2 big turbo setup for less than 10.000 beat the new rs3 without even sweating
@ryanfrisby7389
@ryanfrisby7389 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome race Mat! I agree, mad props to the Carwow filming and editing crew!😸😸
@jonburnell532
@jonburnell532 4 жыл бұрын
Agree on the final point, the film crews never get enough respect. So big thanks to everyone behind the cameras 🙌
@BoomNL
@BoomNL 4 жыл бұрын
Curious about the milage of the 2017 S3, i think that one has some carbon buildup and thats why its dropping behind at higher RPM
@iJoxhh
@iJoxhh 4 жыл бұрын
Mileage was 8,500 in June 2020. So probably still less than 10k! No carbon build up there
@stephenhoward4667
@stephenhoward4667 4 жыл бұрын
If the car has only done short trips that would explain low mileage and also carbon deposits. I've also seen tests where fresh engine oil makes a difference so when was the oil last changed?
@iJoxhh
@iJoxhh 4 жыл бұрын
@@stephenhoward4667 Not sure but if good fuel was used there shouldn't be any build up on a non opf car
@2580ben
@2580ben 4 жыл бұрын
Hi its my car it's on 15k now you're right though lots of short journeys in the first 8 k but been on many longer ones since then!
@ahmedaziz3853
@ahmedaziz3853 4 жыл бұрын
World:under cover with the coronavirus Mat: *Is it any quicker* 😆
@vwgti3414
@vwgti3414 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer the old one inside & outside...i'm not interested in efficiency and electronic gadgets...😴😴
@ChrisDied
@ChrisDied 4 жыл бұрын
K
@giorgospetinarelis9096
@giorgospetinarelis9096 4 жыл бұрын
Yes but you must agree that Audi finaly didn' t give access to an interior terrible ''gadgetoid'' cockpit design with no endless tablet panels like A45 AMG for example
@ChrisDied
@ChrisDied 4 жыл бұрын
@@giorgospetinarelis9096 whats wrong with tablets?? More tablets = better
@vwgti3414
@vwgti3414 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisDied It distracts & therefore dangerous....
@ChrisDied
@ChrisDied 4 жыл бұрын
@@vwgti3414 k
@tcecoleshaw
@tcecoleshaw 4 жыл бұрын
New S3 for me. I suspect the marginally slower response times are imperceptible and slightly more fuel efficient. More efficient and quicker overall.
@HughRussell06
@HughRussell06 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if mat could ever make a video without saying: “Click the pop out banner in the top right corner of the screen”
@backyardengineering816
@backyardengineering816 4 жыл бұрын
Matt dies God: so then, what exactly happened
@crazehayes1
@crazehayes1 4 жыл бұрын
BBC: COV1D
@palaniyappankannan3575
@palaniyappankannan3575 4 жыл бұрын
Mat: I'm sat in the new audi s3 Me: ofc ur sat in the new car 😂
@iacopomosconi6082
@iacopomosconi6082 4 жыл бұрын
How many kilometers the 8V has? How it was driven? In which conditions? Maintenance? Brake pads, oil, wheels and disc status? Pretty no sense without these specified
@konradadamarek9424
@konradadamarek9424 4 жыл бұрын
As always great video. :) But this difference isn't worth paying 13 000 £ extra for new model. Also I think the older 2017 model is better looking.
@tan9640
@tan9640 4 жыл бұрын
I think if you put the new s3 on a dyno I suspect it’ll have abit more power than claimed
@parismalaspinas2488
@parismalaspinas2488 4 жыл бұрын
I would personally go for the 2017 model since i prefer the exterior and interior design of it..plus is much cheaper and the performance is identical
@Astke
@Astke 4 жыл бұрын
Of i had the money for an S3 I'd rather get an M135i xDrive. After all the S3 is a Golf R anyway.
@parismalaspinas2488
@parismalaspinas2488 4 жыл бұрын
@@Astke it really isn't but even if it was the golf r is a great car?
@glenclough9080
@glenclough9080 4 жыл бұрын
@@Astke no the S3 is an S3 it may share an engine with the Golf R but that’s where the comparison stops
@TheEryk03
@TheEryk03 4 жыл бұрын
Not long time ago all morons like you wrote "meeh S3 interior looks so old I dont like it" Now "meeh new one is weaker" Morons gonna be morons.
@gabrielvanya8245
@gabrielvanya8245 4 жыл бұрын
Just take a Leon Cupra. They are always faster than both of those, especially with FWD Cupras slap on the track. Oh and its cheaper too btw
@tht140ixx
@tht140ixx 4 жыл бұрын
Need to get some Pre-OPF RS3 involved😎
@sylvaind.6786
@sylvaind.6786 4 жыл бұрын
Already done 🙄
@snakeeyes9246
@snakeeyes9246 4 жыл бұрын
He's already done a race between an RS3 with the filter vs one without.
@shamil808
@shamil808 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you carwow film crew for putting up with Mat and the weather. 👍
@thenikoneye
@thenikoneye 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video Mat!! Why don't you add some utility car Moose tests? Drag Tests are great, but usually they are about vehicles that many of the subscribers will never be able to buy and sometimes I only look at the most radical or diverse. The Davids vs. Goliaths tests are great and one day, for example, you could put a professional driver in a Suv versus an amateur driver with a powerful car. they are just ideas. It is one of my favorite channels. happy New Year!
@maverick4177
@maverick4177 4 жыл бұрын
And this also highlights that the old version actually looks better 👍🏻
@dilysi156
@dilysi156 4 жыл бұрын
I guess the 310 hp isn't exactly the real power. The new S3 might have some extra hp on the dyno and a bit more mid range power
@slats1987
@slats1987 4 жыл бұрын
Doubt it, just the individual characteristics of each engine. They don't all behave exactly the same, if you had 2 identical cars each engine would behave slightly different.
@ssllhh100
@ssllhh100 4 жыл бұрын
knowing direct injection petrols with EGR the older car has a shit ton of carbon build up even with the dual injection
@CallOfDoodeh
@CallOfDoodeh 4 жыл бұрын
They’ve probably mapped the DSG gearbox differently on the new one to change up quicker, therefore countering the weight gain
@dilysi156
@dilysi156 4 жыл бұрын
True true. The real question now is how they would behave on a track. Because after all, they're sportcars aren't they? 😏
@jeetsupa4362
@jeetsupa4362 4 жыл бұрын
Could be a bit more power, or the aerodynamics are bit better
@robuzz
@robuzz 4 жыл бұрын
Cars are no fun nowadays because they sound like weak vacuums
@Nnn30055
@Nnn30055 4 жыл бұрын
It makes no sense to me too as more and more people turn to electric cars shouldn’t it give the petrol alternatives leeway to remain the same
@neilmurphy845
@neilmurphy845 4 жыл бұрын
As I said before the hoover sounds way better than the new 4 cylinder
@Multivitamin02
@Multivitamin02 4 жыл бұрын
thats why i'm realy happy that i got a Fiesta ST last year. Sounds great, even stock, no soft limiter, drives great even without the performance pack, good as a daily driver and also on longer travels, manuell handbrake, awesome seats and probably the best engine in its class. But yeah: cars nowadays often sound like vacuums which kills lot of the fun
@neilmurphy845
@neilmurphy845 4 жыл бұрын
@@Multivitamin02 I think it's because they run to lean there's only air going through the exhaust
@Astke
@Astke 4 жыл бұрын
So because they make less noise they are less fun? What? You are just as quick or quicker yet you can do it stealthily. It's a win-win in my book.
@cussmustard4748
@cussmustard4748 Күн бұрын
What was mileage on the 2017 during testing? It was four years old during the comparison. Is it possible it slightly underperformed due to normal wear?
@markturner1722
@markturner1722 4 жыл бұрын
Old S3 I’ve still got 66 plate S3 convertible! Awesome car ! Great job guys all the crew 👍🏻
@nub392
@nub392 4 жыл бұрын
Mmmmm the old RS3 is top on the soundtest Sound Rev limiter 🤦🏻‍♂️
@PurplePandaGuy88
@PurplePandaGuy88 4 жыл бұрын
The old S3 sounds better than the new one but I’d prefer to have the new S3 Also a big thanks to the carwow film crew for bringing us all these amazing videos The best car review/ test channel on KZbin in my opinion
@ironikzzz__8056
@ironikzzz__8056 4 жыл бұрын
We need the m140i vs m135i that was a close race 👍
@shiv135
@shiv135 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah and should add in the old M135i in the mix as well
@Jehco14
@Jehco14 4 жыл бұрын
It's quite impressive from the new S3 to beat the old one despite the weight difference. I believe this is what is making the old S3 take the edge on initial start (especially in the second rolling race), but then there's probably indeed a slightly more "filled" power curve on the newer engine which helps, probably also less losses along the drive line and certainly a lower drag coefficient which ends up governing the race as the speed increases. However, I think your Go Pros could be somewhat faking the result at high speeds as they become significant sources of aerodynamic drag themselves. When the gap between the car is significant, it's unlikely to affect significantly the result, but when it's a close call and that you have to reach crazy speeds, then I can guarantee it's not fully representative anymore. I know the aim of this channel is not to do rigorous science but well, it's just my engineering view on it :) On the other hand, your brake test is always problematic especially again when cars are close. Checking a 10 cm difference once stopped makes no sense when I can guarantee again that there has very likely been much more than 10 cm difference in your respective braking points. You should use the Driftbox or anything similar which really measures the distance to have a clear winner (even tough we could also argue that the grip might be different on both sides of the runway). Again, I understand it's not the aim of these videos but it's still worth mentioning. I think Mat should sometimes just remind people of these limitations so that they don't take those apparent results like the Bible.
@rainho21
@rainho21 4 жыл бұрын
Did You ever tried turn off the ESP while stationary and in neutral? That way the car revs all the way to redline, at least my mk6 golf does that.. I think that is the way to go.. Great video by the way ;)
@michaelmeckies7072
@michaelmeckies7072 4 жыл бұрын
01:34 this video was made almost 3 months ago.🤦🏾‍♂️
@disorder_go
@disorder_go 4 жыл бұрын
I think they do a bunch of drag races at once for future uploads.
@BT-ot6gm
@BT-ot6gm 4 жыл бұрын
Who cares 😂
@TheoDaJunk
@TheoDaJunk 4 жыл бұрын
This what they were doing a day after my birthday 😂 damn these guys must have endless amounts of videos if they are three months behind who knows mat retired and we'll still have a year supply of videos
@thomaspavlov4930
@thomaspavlov4930 4 жыл бұрын
Matt: driving 140 mph Also Matt: iNteResTinGGG
@RR-ht9db
@RR-ht9db 4 жыл бұрын
Wow the new S3 looks great. But the old one has still aged so well!
@williamworgan8647
@williamworgan8647 4 жыл бұрын
lets intro this frequent other driver he seems like a cool dude ! i prefer the styling of the older s3 too so id probs go for that one especially with it sounding nicer too.
@connorcheetham4549
@connorcheetham4549 4 жыл бұрын
How does it feel being a top gear replacement for some people while top gear literally has a youtube channel? you guys are killing it
@steenfraosterbro3268
@steenfraosterbro3268 4 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see how many HP the old one has lost over time.
@canalacelerando5960
@canalacelerando5960 4 жыл бұрын
A car that new probably gained some HP vs a new one.
@raccs600
@raccs600 4 жыл бұрын
@Do One had same issue with my diesel dpf clogged clapped it on highway at 100mph for 20 min .... nothing. Thinking about doing delete & gain more hp but warranty will deff be voided
@2580ben
@2580ben 4 жыл бұрын
The older one is mine it has less than 15k miles on the clock I'm not sure it's lost many! I think the track condition effected it the most
@Spiritcr1jsher
@Spiritcr1jsher 2 жыл бұрын
I have had cars with 100k miles that didn't lose power. Usually they are a bit faster after some miles have been put on . Especially a 3 year old audi s.
@Floppshot
@Floppshot 4 жыл бұрын
When are we going to see some super cars vs sleepers. It’s about time to see the sleepers put the super cars to sleep.
@DonPablo2011
@DonPablo2011 4 жыл бұрын
"So what exactly happened"? It was "interesting".
@giorgospetinarelis9096
@giorgospetinarelis9096 4 жыл бұрын
Matt probably expected the new S3 could ''rip'' or ''destroy'' the old one. Anyway this seems very ''ambitius''' between cars very close in tech and with no remarkable difference in weight
@falingsnow
@falingsnow 4 жыл бұрын
s4 owner here, if you let the car start to roll a little 1-2 mph then slip into neutral it will rev to the red line.
@Otot_B
@Otot_B 6 ай бұрын
I drive the 8V S3 and found the gearing to be somewhat sluggish. a DSG tune fixed this and brought it to life. imagine that could do wonders to the new model too
@dometr9254
@dometr9254 4 жыл бұрын
like even the Golf 8 Gti sounds way better than the S3...always Audi‘s that have absolutely no sound since the filters are a thing...why??
@av1332
@av1332 4 жыл бұрын
Even the golf mk7.5r sounds better
@dometr9254
@dometr9254 4 жыл бұрын
@Tekay bran i know but the thing is, why are vw‘s allowed to have a much louder exhaust than audi? makes no sense
@dometr9254
@dometr9254 4 жыл бұрын
@Tekay bran yea, good point
@dometr9254
@dometr9254 4 жыл бұрын
@Mitrax zero emotions, thats all i need to say ;)
@dometr9254
@dometr9254 4 жыл бұрын
@Mitrax zero guess im not a „regular“ person ;)
@jhn3535
@jhn3535 4 жыл бұрын
Mat is like:' let's do another drag race'
@worldpeace6322
@worldpeace6322 4 жыл бұрын
Mat's "OH MY GOD" sounded like Janice
@thomasnijland1195
@thomasnijland1195 3 жыл бұрын
Our VW also has a soft limiter but when I turn the steering wheel all the way to the left or right is revs up to the redline..... kinda weird. Maybe it works on Audi's and other cars ??
@omnipresentvideo7686
@omnipresentvideo7686 4 жыл бұрын
Curious what coefficient of drag on both cars
@sibusisosibisi6172
@sibusisosibisi6172 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao "They've been adding weight all this time "
@jimclements3190
@jimclements3190 4 жыл бұрын
Latest vw golf GTI is twice as heavy as first generation mk1,but also 220hp against mk1s 110.
@הירשמולערוץ-ס8נ
@הירשמולערוץ-ס8נ 4 жыл бұрын
2:33 Thank me later
@lexuslfa4739
@lexuslfa4739 4 жыл бұрын
How did you know that when the video has just been uploaded
@JTM610
@JTM610 4 жыл бұрын
@@lexuslfa4739 because he skipped to the relevant part???
@AndreiAndrei-rt4po
@AndreiAndrei-rt4po 4 жыл бұрын
@@JTM610 you can't because is live 🤣
@JTM610
@JTM610 4 жыл бұрын
@@AndreiAndrei-rt4po I don't understand
@SAlpha5
@SAlpha5 4 жыл бұрын
Real viewers watch the whole vdo
@mahelimousin9228
@mahelimousin9228 4 жыл бұрын
Do a drag race with all generations of Audi RS3 (stock), it could be very interesting !
@samuelharris2473
@samuelharris2473 4 жыл бұрын
I like the additional quick insight from the other driver. He's got some bonus observations on the cars.
@user-gb1oi1qo1j
@user-gb1oi1qo1j 4 жыл бұрын
Matt if you turn traction control off I think it turns off the soft limiter at 4k revs . Definitely works that way on my 7.5 Gti (manual) - might work on these too?
@ramcharanbaishya6872
@ramcharanbaishya6872 4 жыл бұрын
The old Audi s3 driver be like : don't show my face .!
@playboilit2424
@playboilit2424 4 жыл бұрын
The old s3 looks like an amazing bargain to me tho
@triumphfork9268
@triumphfork9268 3 жыл бұрын
I bought one last week and I’m absolutely loving it
@playboilit2424
@playboilit2424 3 жыл бұрын
@@triumphfork9268 enjoy it bro. amazing car.
@triumphfork9268
@triumphfork9268 3 жыл бұрын
@@playboilit2424 thanks bro!
@AyyLondon
@AyyLondon 4 жыл бұрын
petrol particulate filters have ruined the sound of performance cars, that why I will probably only buy cars without them pre 2018ish for the foreseeable future, such a shame as I miss out on the new cars
@davesoton20
@davesoton20 4 жыл бұрын
There is some odd variation in S3 performance. So the old S3 is the same speed as the yellow S3 from a while ago that was thought to be tuned? Are we saying that red saloon S3 we've seen lots of is just a bit rubbish? By the way, have you done any tests of the old S3 when it's in Dynamic and Dynamic with the exhaust fully open? Always wondered if it actually makes any difference other than sound.
@user-ss7sy5jg1c
@user-ss7sy5jg1c 2 ай бұрын
As that 2017 s3 is the 306bhp (310 ps). It would be interesting to get a 19 plate s3 as that one went back to 296bhp due to emissions ,, it would be good to get that race goin , or all stock s3 drag race
@briish0016
@briish0016 4 жыл бұрын
The intro: ‘Ello ‘ow are you
@KangoV
@KangoV 4 жыл бұрын
For fun driving on UK roads, I'd have the more responsive engine.
@DIZZYDAZZLER2011
@DIZZYDAZZLER2011 4 жыл бұрын
I think AUDI are trying to match the sweeeet sound of Tesla's cars.....LOL
@garosama4517
@garosama4517 4 жыл бұрын
True. At least Audis look way better
@andrewgoodsell4063
@andrewgoodsell4063 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see some more comparisons old models vs new models. See what the difference in performance is.
@nikeelm
@nikeelm 2 жыл бұрын
i also would like to see a 8L vs a 8p , vs 8v1 vs 8v2 vs 8y
@swanblake
@swanblake 4 жыл бұрын
I would trade a tenth of a second for the sound, weight, less malfunctioning electronics, and looks of the prior gen
@Bestwick1983
@Bestwick1983 4 жыл бұрын
The new one looks like a hideous little mini-SUV
@PPGNI
@PPGNI 4 жыл бұрын
The silver one being older and hence “well run in” could make the difference in gear ?
@manenwan
@manenwan 4 жыл бұрын
the yellow one is a press car so i dont think its also well ran
@egooooooooo
@egooooooooo 4 жыл бұрын
not really
@avaragewanker7823
@avaragewanker7823 4 жыл бұрын
3 2 1 in woman's voice while a bearded guy is giving the start :D
@ApothecaryTerry
@ApothecaryTerry 4 жыл бұрын
HRT.
@BRS.F1
@BRS.F1 4 жыл бұрын
PLEASE do this Drag Race!: 2021BMW //M3 compition, Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifolio, Maserati Quattroporte Trofeo, Mercedes C63 //AMG sedan, May seem an odd mix but all RWD v8/v6 👍🏻
@LostAtSe
@LostAtSe 4 жыл бұрын
You know what I would love from your reviews, the only thing missing for me - some kind of refinement sound test. Like a score out of 10 under solid test conditions for how quiet inside the car is, maybe even a league table?
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