New Balance Rebel v4 After 100 Miles

I’ve been running with the Rebelv4 for 3 months now, and while it started out very good, it’s only gotten better with age.
0:00 intro
0:48 Disclosures
1:19 How I’ve Been Using Them
3:50 How They’ve Been Holding Up
5:26 Updated Pairing Options
6:47 Updated Buying Guide
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[@mattscott4382]

Love your videos. They inspire me to get off the couch!

[@almostaverageroger]

Great review and I’m happy I bought these as a my trainers since I got myself a pair of SC Elite V4. Also happy to hear that the Metaspeed Sky+ Paris is a great race day shoe pair for these as I’m planning on getting a pair too. Loves from Manila Philippines 🇵🇭 ❤

[@sydneyng8398]

@kofuzi Always enjoyed your reviews. Enjoying the V3 and definitely gonna be getting the V4 even before this review! 👍🏼👍🏼

[@meangirlbecca]

Great update! This shoe got me intrigued and I tried it on twice and unfortunately it didn't agree with me like I'd hoped. My legs were happier as soon as I went back to my trusted Nimbus and Novablast. Also tried the 1080 v13, which seemed to work better. I really want to try more New Balance but my legs love ASICS more.

[@MS-wz4km]

im NB guy but just got the cumulus! excited to try asics!

[@Feanaro5503]

I just got the V3 in December so I’ll be sticking with those.

[@Manuel-901]

Like from Spain 🇪🇸. A nice monday for everyone.

[@heathmaloney3602]

Only had mine for a few weeks but really happy with them and think I will get another pair later in the year

[@LancePeterman]

I've got about 30 miles in my v4's and am loving it so far. Very similar experience for me as well, I'm loving this shoe.

[@kofuzi]

glad to hear it's working!

[@jtsholtod.79]

As an ultra runner, I picked up the Rebel v4s few weeks ago as a recovery and easy run trainer. My daily is Newton Gravity 13 (I've been running in Newtons since they started as they suit me well), which I love, but they can be punishing for everyday wear. After about 50 miles, I absolutely love the Rebels and they put a smile on my face whenever I lace them up.

[@em0haircutx]

They’re so good. I was convinced that the Novablast 4 was my daily but the Rebel dethroned it after my first run. I might go full New Balance rotation for my Chicago block

[@ksteege]

Rebel Rebel - love this shoe Have not been able to really run since Chicago but picked this one up right away looking forward to getting miles in them now that I can run again! (been so busy workwise I have a bunch of videos to catch up on as well)

[@hamoudalnasser]

Glad to hear this because I just bought a pair. Thinking of getting two so they last the year. They really fit my sprawling toes and wide forefoot. Didn't even need to order the wide version. (My cushioned dailies are in extra wide fit).

[@axisofadvance666]

Hey, did you end up getting your usual size, or did you size up half a size on these?

[@hamoudalnasser]

@@axisofadvance666 My usual size varies all the time by brand, and even within brands. I erred towards going up. So I suppose you could say I went up half a size to an 11 regular width. Fit me perfectly.But, I often go with size 11 for NB and Saucony, while I use 10 1/2 for other brands

[@JoshL84]

Picked this up yesterday and after one run I'm liking it. 8.25oz in 11.5, easy to pickup the pace. I need to take it longer. I never tried the previous versions but with this one I feel it should have enough foam in the forefoot for my 190lb frame.

[@madimajapu]

I love Rebel V4 ❤

[@nathaniel23946]

Thank you for the post 100 miles review Kofuzi! Have to agree with your review so much! I love my Rebel V4! Rebel Rebel Rebel! It's an amazing shoe, I feel like I keep trying to reach for it everyday haha! NB did a great job on blending PEBA and EVA together with this shoe! Awesome daily trainer!

[@codycrapser5641]

Got a pair 2 days ago. Took them out for 13 miles right out of the box. New balance killed it on this one!

[@kofuzi]

glad to hear you're enjoying it!

[@derekjy]

I’ve done just over 50km’s over three runs in my Rebel v4’s now, and have been very happy with them so far. I chose these over 1080v13 as I feel like these are actually more of a true successor to the more recent 1080’s (v11 and 12) than the 13 is, which has changed direction and become a high stack max cushion shoe. I loved the 11 and 12’s. For me the Rebel v4 has the right amount of stack height and I really like the feel of the new Peba EVA midsole. I like to feel the ground under foot, which I can in these, yet it still provides great cushioning and response.

[@EthanKraus-Runs]

Need to get my hands on a pair asap - I'm loving the cloudsurfers for easy miles

[@Mack.Tracks]

Definitely eyeing a pair. Cheers!

[@niallstrachan2681]

Almost at 100 miles in my V4's Totally agree with you I'm always excited to get out running in these for a variety of efforts. (shoutout to the stone)

[@richiecortezzz7415]

How is the foam holding up

[@niallstrachan2681]

@@richiecortezzz7415 some creasing but still feeling energetic and fun underfoot!

[@lennihco]

Dope review (as always).

[@RunnerdJK]

Thanks Captain Obvious!

[@FUNSPONGERUNS]

currently my favorite running shoe!

[@alejandromourra]

and for walking around? i need some super good shoes for walk a lot for my weak feets dont hurt hehe

[@tonybowen455]

@@alejandromourra One of my least fav shoes for walking in. My triumph 18's are one of my go to's for walking in, so the new ones are prob even better. I also use my worn out novablasts.

[@amirjon]

@@tonybowen455how come??

[@pspdead914]

can’t wait for the review of SC Pacer v2!😅

[@jollyroger1009]

Just bought this shoe because of this review. First ever New Balance, can't wait.

[@kofuzi]

Hope you love them!

[@macfin4862]

How'd you get on?

[@jollyroger1009]

@@macfin4862 Great. Also using it for speedwork. Not using it so much for long runs though: Superblast for that.

[@A_SEGA_Dremcast]

Hey Rebe, hey Rebe hey

[@laalaa99stl]

This comment will cease to make sense after he edits the title.

[@liiou4445]

So far he hasn't, but the original title is "New Balance Rebe v4 after 100 miles"

[@RobertKasper42]

I have two pairs of these already (the white/green one and the all black one) and they have already been my go-to shoes. Raced Shamrock Shuffle in them and felt nice and fresh. I was between those and the SC Pacer and I feel the Rebel was the better option that day/distance.

[@jrbtolentino]

Just ordered one and watched your vid afterwards. I’m flat-footed vet trying to maintain a decent athletic shape. Excited to give it a Go. Thanks for the review.

[@kofuzi]

I hope you enjoy it!

[@GUDDAisHere]

Soft shoes are not good for flat foot

[@jrbtolentino]

I got plantar fasciitis and my heels are very tender so the soft shoes alleviate that part.

[@stipekapovic5316]

Loving the shoe atm. It has this strong ability to adapt to just about any run. I did a faster 6km as my first run with it and it worked well. Did 12km with some 3:50m kms and it was wonderful and snappy. Took it for a half last week with a zone two run and did so well there too

[@kofuzi]

it really is versatile

[@FelipeMarinPerucci]

Great video! Although from other reviews I thought the rebel v4 was better for tempo runs (half marathon/marathon paces) - do you see it like that? If not what are other non-plated tempo/long run recommendations? Cheers from Australia!

[@mitchellbjerke5547]

How does this compare to a Novablast 3? Would love to add another daily trainer and love the all black colorway

[@DavaoCutieTV]

Hoping to get a pair of these.

[@spartanB0292]

I hope this is still in stock by the time my current shoes need replacing. They sound perfect for a heavy wife footed runner like me.

[@BenzoDJ]

I'm tempted to give these New Balances a shot. A little wary though... My first NB pair were the Zantes, as a newbie, I did not know any better if they were good or not. Years later, I then bought a pair of FC Super Comp Trainer v1's that I wore less than 50 miles due to rubbing of my ankle. I ended up donating the pair at my local 5K's shoe collection.

[@edwardcreighton2638]

My birthday in 19 days, birthday present sorted! Held the Rebe couple of days ago, super light. Great review.

[@jamaaljones844]

I’m already dreaming of a “winterized” version of this shoe.

[@Ramelro]

I’m hoping to pick up a oair of these sometime this week/weekend.

[@JeffreyWatkinsI]

I am a 300lbs runner and I have 68 miles in them, plenty of 5 mile runs and some tempo work. This shoe feels light and I keep going back to them even when I know I need to rotate shoes. They do feel soft under foot and more forgiven then other shoes Im wearing. I also am using the SC Elite v4 for my marathon shoe (that shoe is amazing)

[@kofuzi]

nice combo!

[@speed_will]

Did u get wide or normal size

[@JeffreyWatkinsI]

Normal size

[@tonybowen455]

I used them on a really slow run yesterday, and I was really surprised that they're prob my best shoe for that as well as tempo runs. The speeds and superblasts make this seem like a good deal to me.

[@kofuzi]

A very versatile shoe

[@MiracleWarriors]

I was not sure how would be the stability and "wobbly heel" (1080 v13 ?) Be in the Rebel v4, and I ended up going with the Puma Velocity Nitro 3 instead. I'm loving the Velocity 3, but later on in the year, I will see if I can give a shot with the Rebel v4 ! It is so lightweight that I doubt that it will have more than two or three rivals by the end of the year.

[@edwinduisburg8138]

I saw very different opinions on this shoe since its came out. But one thing I noticed was subpar upper in terms of durability which was a deal breaker for me. I guess they had to comprimise for optimal breathability.

[@gonzalolapuz5043]

love the new rebel v4 it's to pricey here in the Philippines almost 165 usd

[@philortman8139]

The Rebel v2 is my favorite shoe ever, plate or no plate. The v3 was a big, boring step back for me. v4 is another big change, but definitely in the right direction. Very happy with this one.

[@thomascunningham8234]

How was the v3 a boring step back? Same midsole but with 1.5 mm more stack, better oursole and upper. Definitely an improvement on the v2, not a step back, or didn't you run in them both?

[@chard101]

Can you make a video of your best running shoes for Treadmill

[@laalaa99stl]

What happened to the pudding? You mentioned in the initial review that the footstrike felt pudding-y (making us all hungry). Did that ever go away after break-in?

[@soutarm]

I'm loving my pair but I get some heel rubbing on my right foot. I've tried the runner's knot but still need a band-aid (for now). Still less than 100km on them so hopefully I can wear the heel in a bit.

[@rowan1355]

Got a big half marathon PR in these last week!

[@kofuzi]

Nice!

[@I_hate_charlatans_like_mkbhd]

NB FTW what’s going on. Elite runner here

[@eianlim7134]

Hi Kofuzi, with sizing with any running shoes, do you still size up or you get your true to size?

[@adamfeerst2575]

I demoed them last week. I found them bouncy without being mushy, which previous versions were. I’d use them for up-tempo. I think it’s a waste to use them for easy runs when I can run in something like the Ride or Cumulus.

[@BoLTaGeScOpeR]

Which one do you recommend rebel 4 or Novablast 4...I have the Vaporfly 3

[@DavaoCutieTV]

Yo! Sir Kofuzi and Ko fam, I want to know if these are good for a non plated race day shoes?

[@karls8989]

the rebel v4 is like a mini superblast its that good people

[@antonioperez400]

If I could only do 1 shoe...rebel v4, saucony speed 4, or boston 12...which would you recommend? I want a do it all shoe. Please and thank you!

[@MrBPM75]

Met New Balance rep on saturday. She mentioned it has 60-80& PEBA in that Rebel 4 whereas SC Elite 4 has 100% PEBA.

[@benpage8561]

If you could only buy these, oncloud surfer or puma deviate nitro 3 which would you choose? Thanks

[@bloatedtonydanza7798]

Noticed the pro marathon ppl strike in the heel 😮

[@jimoconnor8597]

When runners get tired, almost every single one will heel strike. It's just that the pros can go a lot further with better mechanics than non-pros.

[@Sharkster_J]

A very solid majority of people naturally run with a heel strike at most paces (pros included). The heel strike = bad is an old running myth that has hasn’t been supported by running research.

[@TheFrontyer]

Yes. There is nothing wrong with heel striking. The majority of people do so, when running in shoes. People in the running community just try to make it a bad thing, which its not. Atleast no scientific proof that it is.

[@roycesutherland8268]

Typically the "pro" heel strike is actually the foot easing the shoe to the ground and the main weight of their body is still through a flat to forefoot landing. I think a true heel strike would be when you can really hear the shoes slapping the ground

[@derekjy]

So long as you're not overstriding heel striking is okay.

[@cliffordstanger8960]

The foam is crazy good, and lasts, i have 2, 3, and possibly 4s soon 😂. It holds up well tho that rubber doesn't seem to wear much at all and i used on gravel and mountains .

[@flashrun6093]

Sorry to say, but this v4 appears to have other foam.

[@arvinsandiego2686]

Finally! Will you ever do 300 miles?

[@user-ib2bh6ne4s]

Great vid Kofuzi! Time for me to update my Tempus. Im about 110kgs. Which would you recommend NB 1080v13 or NB Rebel V4? Many thanks 😊

[@barinopedro]

Don’t know what happened but I’m a size 7 and this rebel v4 turned out to be way bigger than all my other new balance shoes. Unfortunately will have to look for another option since there are no smaller sizes.

[@rjjalaparthi545]

I love CloudSurfer.. Can I use those for 16-20 mile long runs or Rebel v4 is best suited for long runs. Please let me know I am in dilemma for my long runs which one to use. I need to buy revel 4 I have revel 3

[@BroccLeeAV]

All the Hokas I have worn are way more narrow in the midfoot etc and New Balance is better for my high-arch wide feet

[@AntonioBrownsNeurosurgeon]

Most of the reviews of shoes I see online are that of middle/aged runners that are mostly focusing on half marathons- marathon distance training. As a high school runner, I’m not doing much of that. Would you recommend this shoe for 5k training? I’m looking for my next shoe, I really like this one, I’m just wondering how well it’s going to work for all 5k training through hot months from now-Octoberish.

[@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183]

The upper is very thin and breathable so in terms of climate they should be good. It’s also a great speed shoe so if it fits you snugly enough it should work for 5K. For my narrowish foot it was far too baggy for that (I had trouble cinching the laces enough to get even a solid midfoot lock). I have the Takumi Sen and Endorphin Speed for that kind of training/racing, as well as the Hyperion Max (good for speed training at least) so that’s why I didn’t buy the Rebel4. If you have a wider forefoot it should work great for you.

[@nicbsb]

I am between Rebel V4 or Boston 12. I'd rather have comfort than energy return for an everyday shoe. What do you suggest, Sir? Great video, Mr. Kofuzi, as always. Have a great one!

[@DJjayenvy]

Having both, I prefer the Rebel v4 over Boston 12. It’s fast without the plate and way more comfortable than the Boston 12. The Boston is an amazing shoes that you have to adapt to versus the rebel v4 that adapts to you imo.

[@nicbsb]

@@DJjayenvy thank you so much, Mr. I appreciate that!

[@dinkthinks3958]

Have both and really like both. If I had to choose just one I’d have to say Rebel. It’s lighter and all around more comfortable.

[@fraktalfox]

@@DJjayenvy Couldn't have said any better. I own them both and feel exactly the same!

[@pradanakusuma]

Woww you really chase them marathoners while making video, seems interesting I need to try that 😂

[@kofuzi]

it's my happy place

[@solangebutler7194]

Hey Ko! Are you going to test the Hylo Impact? I’m curious what you would have to say about them.

[@kofuzi]

I don't currently have plans to review that shoe

[@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183]

Hey, I was given that shoe to try when I went to my running store. They were soliciting feedback from regular customers. I thought they were really nice and quite fun. I loved the way they hugged my midfoot and felt really supportive and comfortable in general, however I have a somewhat narrowish foot so they might not work for those with wide feet. I also found the ankle collar hit the bottom of my ankle on one foot so that might bother me. They’re worth checking out though if you can find them in a store to try on.

[@Vikram129]

Can Nimbus 26 will be a good shoe for forefoot runners? If not can you suggest me other shoe which prices around 150$

[@juan2yajna]

What do you think of these as an all day walking shoe? Also, are they true to size or need a half size up? Thanks!

[@kofuzi]

A1. they're great. A2. true to size. a touch big, if anything.

[@emkama9402]

Head to head, is the v4 clearly better than the v3? Did the foam hold up better in the v4. I feel like much of the liveliness is the v3 was gone by 150miles

[@harrygoldsmith6792]

did you buy true to size or half size up?

[@giffarmasabih8108]

Some reviewers said that after 100 miles it loses some pop Is it true in your case?

[@thedudecarrying]

Can not decide between the Rebel V4 or Novablast 4. Ugh. Guess I might buy both since I am retiring my Nimbus 25s to a comfy walking around shoe

[@kofuzi]

either way, you're going to get a great shoe

[@ychongy]

Are these actually better than the nimbus 25/26?

[@tevinabdikurniapratama4276]

I got this shoes like 2 Month ago. At first, it's pleasing my feet so much. But, idk why it's getting unstable. Early Retirement for this shoes after maybe just for 100km and back to my novablast 4.

[@seungkim8576]

Thanks for the review. As someone who'll be training and racing a marathon in the Rebel 3s, I think the Rebel V4 could also be the kind of shoe that I can use for everything (easy runs, hard runs, long runs), including races. I don't really buy into the idea of needing 4-5 pairs of shoes for different purposes. To me, that's a big part of what being non-elite means: I don't take my running or performance seriously enough to think that I need 4-5 pairs of shoes in a rotation (including $250+ racing shoes) to reach my goals. I also think that simplicity is a part of what it means to be a non-elite, so I think someone with dedication and a good training plan can train and race in one (or two) pairs of shoes and still meet their goals, whether it be a sub-3 marathon, or a sub-4/sub-5 marathon. If you like trying lots of different shoes and can afford to do so, more power to you. But I think trying to find 4-5 types of shoes and thinking that you can only use them one very specific type of run is overcomplicating things for amateur runners.

[@DonalG45]

If that's the way you like to do it, fair enough. However, It's worth noting that having many pairs at once doesn't necessarily mean greater cost, provided you continue to use a shoe for its lifespan. I have quite a few pairs (including supershoes on sale for

[@seungkim8576]

@@DonalG45 Again, I have no beef against how others want to buy/use shoes. But the trend seems to be that all the shoe reviewers are advocating for using particular shoes for one particular use. And the effect could be that some people might think that that's the only way to run/train. So I'm just letting it be known that if the shoe works for you, it'll work for easy runs, hard runs, speed work, long runs, and even races. You don't have to obsess about finding shoes that are 1 oz lighter because people seem to be suggesting that speedwork can't be done in shoes over 8oz. Again, if people want to obsess and find the perfect shoe for any particular type of run, then by all means. But I think for the vast majority of amateur runners, it's not necessary.

[@DonalG45]

@seungkim8576 I appreciate your point that some runners may feel they need to have 4-5 pairs of shoes because of the way shoes are sometimes described in reviews like this. Fwiw, I'm sure you're probably right. Most reviewers though, Mike included, never tell people that they need that many pairs. If some people choose to see it that way, that's on them. He often suggests how a shoe might fit into a rotation of shoes, which I find very helpful and, let's face it, most experienced runners will already have at least a few pairs that they use for different purposes. Re carbon plated shoes, have you ever tried a pair? At this stage, it's pretty well established the time difference a pair can make in a race. Personally, if it's not harming me or anyone else, I'm happy to use any advantage I can to run my fastest time on the day (which also includes well planned training, a good diet, sleep schedule). I'm definitely in the category of non-elite but I don't think having a few extra pairs of shoes (or supershoes) has overcomplicated things or means I'm taking it too seriously. To each their own I guess!

[@seungkim8576]

@@DonalG45 I agree. To each his own. I do wish, though, that there would be a popular KZbin shoe reviewer who thinks more like I do. But I suppose if he tells people that they don't need so many pairs of shoes and to wait to buy last year's model on sale, he probably wouldn't be a very successful KZbinr--which gets at the idea that KZbinrs have to promote new shoes all the time in order to be successful and to get shoes for free from companies. So I'm not a big fan of this perhaps unavoiadable situation where a KZbinr has to encourage commercialism in order to be successful. I agree that Mike doesn't tell people that they need all those pairs of shoes. But when he and all the other KZbinrs push the idea that certain shoes can only be used for certain purposes, it's hard not to get the message. I have not tried carbon-plated shoes. Too rich for my blood. I don't doubt that they help people run faster, but I'm OK with trying to run my best without that much technological aid--though I don't think any super shoes will help me break my marathon PR of 2:52 from 18 years ago. Age trumps shoes. And if I only run 3:20 instead of 3:15 because I don't wear carbon-plated shoes, I'd say to myself, "So what?" What difference would those 5 minutest make to a non-elite amateur runner? Also, I'd prefer to focus on running enough miles to reduce my race-day weight which would probably affect my time more than wearing Alphaflys vs. Rebel V3s.

[@seungkim8576]

@@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183 I'm glad that you've figured out a shoe-use system that works for you and keeps you healthy. No doubt, your years of experience have helped you figure out what works for you. And I've never said that one pair of shoes is the best approach for everyone--only that a 4-5 pair rotation doesn't have to be the norm for everyone. I appreciate Kofuzi and his reviews, especially when he compares different brands and different versions; they help me to make an informed choice which is important since I don't buy many shoes. But I'd disagree that "no one is telling you what to do," in that, especially for new or inexperienced runners, the idea of a different pair of shoes for every type of run seems like gospel truth since Kofuzi and so many in the running industry repeat this mantra (and let's face it, the whole industry--shoe companies, shoe stores, shoe reviewers--depends on people buying lots of shoes and jumping on the newest trends/technologies). I just wish that even one of these influencers would say "Relax. A one-ounce difference in weight is not going to make something an everyday trainer versus a speed-work trainer, so feel free to use these for whatever you want." These influencers (and perhaps many of today's runners) seem to not know or acknowledge that for years and years most people trained successfully for races without a 4-5 shoe rotation (and might I add, their times were faster than today). Do we really need to have separate shoes for everyday training, long runs, and recovery runs? In my experience, if a shoe works well for you, you can use it for anything. One more thing: I think the science behind how long shoes last is far from settled. I do think it's almost certain that they can last longer than what shoe companies recommend (which, again, makes sense when we remember that they want to sell as many pairs as possible). It's possible that rotating multiple pairs of shoes might help them last longer. For me, the jury is still out on that. I recently retired a pair of Asics Novablasts after 1500+ miles, which I used to run during my lunch hour at work; I had a different pair of shoes (Nike Pegagus) that I used to run at home, and I used that for 750 miles. So that was a different type of shoe rotation.

[@CharlesMayer-wu5rb]

Two of the best shoes, Rebel 4 and Novablast 4 are only $140.00, which is better. Is Speed 4 worth the extra $30? What’s your take?

[@Kaloi80]

My blue rebel4 also 110km today

[@kofuzi]

nice

[@NikvdB]

The Rebel V3 is one of my favourite shoes ever. I assumed the Rebel V4's would be a no brainer. I ran in them yesterday for the first time, and the heel cut in my achilles to the point it started bleeding. Big disappointment...

[@kofuzi]

they've quite different from the 3. sorry to hear it's not working for you

[@sean6222]

I ran 4 miles in these a week ago at a NB event. They honestly felt so flat to me, like they were working against my stride. I much prefer a more intense rocker geometry like the endorphin shift, etc.

[@kofuzi]

It’s a great time to be a runner. There’s a lot of different shoes out there for different preferences. I’m glad you’ve found something that you enjoy!

[@garrett_driscoll]

I got my Rebel V4’s a month ago and I have LOVED them! My wife thinks I’m ridiculous because of my current shoe rotation: daily-Rebel V4, Speed- Hyperion Max, Recovery - Foam X V4, Race or marathon distance efforts - Pro 3.

[@Ninja-Cake]

have you had any rubbing on the back of the heel?

[@garrett_driscoll]

@@Ninja-Cake None, and I do not need to heel-lock with the lacing.

[@zionpixel]

@@Ninja-Cakeno rubbing here as well. Really enjoying this shoe.

[@handi5253]

​@@Ninja-Cake yesss.... on my right foot.

[@Jordan-we3eu]

Did you try any faster runs with them? I know there are faster plated options, but wasn’t that the purpose of this shoe?

[@kofuzi]

Did I try any faster runs with them? yes Wasn't faster runs the purpose of this shoe? no, although I suppose it depends on the POV. New Balance has told me that the Rebel was always supposed to be a daily trainer. So as far as the manufacturer's intent goes, the answer to your question is no. But, from my perspective as someone who perceived Rebel v's1-3 as being a tempo shoe foremost, the answer to your question is yes.

[@TheDrHays]

I've noticed that some NB shoes have high collars (e.g. SC Trainer, More V4) while others do not (e.g. Rebel V3). I've had some ankle issues with the high NB collared shoes. Any insight into how the collar is in the Rebel V4?

[@kofuzi]

I'm afraid my experience may not be helpful as I have not had issues with collars on any of the shoes you mentioned. I find the Rebel 4 collar to be comfortable and not unnecessarily padded

[@TheDrHays]

@@kofuzi Many thanks--useful as always! I probably have a weird ankle!

[@snowwalker9999]

I had that issue with 880 v13 only but not with Rebel V3. Heel lock lacing helped a bit.

[@viCoN24]

Rebel V3 was bordering on rubbing my ankles but was softer and eventually I got used to it. I got half size up to fit in length so that might have been the reason why the ankle collar was a bit higher than usual. Rebel V4 has less padded ankle collar and bites into heel. Even though it's TTS it feels just barely long enough but too wide and I couldn't get a good fit. There is also an obvious bump in the medial side of the arch which felt intrusive to me like in a stability shoe. Overall, Rebel V4 feels nothing like V3. Foam is stiffer, upper less conforming and feels bare-bones.

[@viCoN24]

Just as a point of reference - More V4 rubs my ankles, SC Trainer V1 too but eventually found one pair half size up that doesn't but had to try out like 3 pairs, SC Trainer V2 is too short TTS but feels loose half size up, 1080 V13 is too narrow and rubs my big toe.

[@DavaoCutieTV]

Can these go around 400km?

[@TheJepoyPapas]

This is my “finally found my shoe”

[@kofuzi]

nice!

[@richardrivera7591]

Hey Brother, wore them out of the box for a 5k time trial. They felt great under feet for easy running but they seemed to lack the pop or fast feel I was hoping for when pushing the pace. Been thinking about sending them back but after your video I will keep them for a few more sessions and see. In the mean time, I ordered Saucony Endorphin Speed 4 and Adidas Takumi Sen 10. Will do a comparison and let you know my thoughts. I'm looking for a 5k/10k racer.

[@kofuzi]

If you’re looking for a race shoe, then probably one of the race shoes you mentioned will suit you better

[@richardrivera7591]

@@kofuzi Hey Kofuzi, I did a track session 12x 400 in the Saucony Speed, felt great. I did an easy run the next day and the Rebel 4 was very good for that. So, you were right on. Great job sir!

[@oli_jens]

Interesting, Thomas at BITR said it lost its “pop” after 100 miles and that turned me off the shoe.

[@runnerslow]

That must be because of the weight difference

[@Jake-fd1oj]

Gott get these

[@andrea_on]

Rebel V4 or 1080 v13?

[@airbromez]

Do you think it would be repetitive to have both the Mach 6 and the Rebels?

[@kofuzi]

the two shoes overlap quite a bit, but it could make sense. the rebel is good at recovery days and slower days, which the Mach 6 isn't as excellent in

[@kungfukenny9300]

Torn between this and the 1080v13

[@jessa.3857]

I'm in the same boat as you. Tried both on in store and they both felt great. These V4s are very lite! Good luck with your decision!

[@kungfukenny9300]

@@jessa.3857 I legit wanna get both lol. But I'm leaning towards the 1080 since I got the Vormero 17 for sale.

[@SkibidiRunner123]

how many miles do they last

[@jayjayangeloalquiza2648]

How but boston 12?

[@robertokeane5066]

what should i choose for my daily easy run? rebel v4 or novablast 4? or maybe other recommendation?

[@dinkthinks3958]

I have both and both are great for easy runs. If you want light and snappy go Rebel if you want steady Eddie with a bit more cushion for longer miles go nova. I will say I’m more excited to run in the Rebel.

[@robertokeane5066]

@@dinkthinks3958 im just started to learn to run for exercising and im still can only do easy runs only for 2min and already feels my leg burning up cause im working standing all day for 12 hours so im looking for a shoes that can train me to run longer and stronger on my leg. Maybe do you have any other recommendation on what shoes should i have since im still newbie 😅

[@robertokeane5066]

@@dinkthinks3958 i'm still a newbie at running and can only do easy runs for 1 minutes without stopping and my legs already feels burning, i thought it because i was working for 12 hours shift standing all day as barista in coffee shop. Maybe do you have any other recommendation which shoes is best to train my leg to be strong and more endurance both running and working 😄?

[@robertokeane5066]

@dinkthinks3958 i'm still a newbie at running and can only do easy runs for 1 minutes without stopping and my legs already feels burning, i thought it because i was working for 12 hours shift standing all day as barista in coffee shop. Maybe do you have any other recommendation which shoes is best to train my leg to be strong and more endurance both running and working 😄

[@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183]

@@robertokeane5066I wouldn’t use a shoe to strengthen your legs and feet. Rather, you should be doing cross training (strength exercises) for legs and that will allow you to use a less supportive shoe without fatiguing. I think you’re putting the cart before the horse, so to speak. On the other hand, once you’ve built up in your training to greater endurance, you can use a shoe like this more easily. 12 hr shifts on your feet is a big challenge, especially if you haven’t run enough and done strength work for endurance. Just my thoughts….You can find a lot online about how to build up strength, speed and endurance gradually in your running.

[@Hk86bs]

I‘m 6‘4 and 220-230 lbs…so i need good shoes for running. I use some Fuel Cell from NB but a cheaper model. Would you recommend these maybe?

[@kofuzi]

Yes, but also consider the 1080 and the More

[@marzboy_]

Hi folks, for those who have bought these - I'm an 8.5 in Nike, what size should I go with in New Balance?

[@TokyoNightGirl-fk4cn]

💕 Wow💗💗💚💗💚💚💚

[@dustydreaver]

I got the v4 and instantly got knee pain . Only after 10k run. I returned it for the new balance 1080 v13.

[@kofuzi]

sorry to hear about that. hope the 1080 is working better for you!

[@io-rj6sk]

lol wtf u could exchange it even after doing a 10k in em?

[@dustydreaver]

@@io-rj6sk yup as long as it’s on treadmill . Here in Saskatchewan Canada 🇨🇦.

[@io-rj6sk]

@@dustydreaver wow thats crazy lol

[@io-rj6sk]

@@dustydreaver do they ask if u ran on the treadmil with em? or no questions asked

[@LP8Mike]

So which is the best for daily walking? Rebel v4 or Cloudsurfer or Nike Invincible 3

[@kofuzi]

I think it might depend on how rigorous the walking is, but either Rebel or Cloudsurfer.

[@sal.e_h]

Rebel v4 or Deviate Nitro 2?

[@jameswestmoreland9717]

Baaad Kofuzi. Shoes creasing and dirty. Bad bad boy. What am I talking about? I don't know, just funning Actually avoided the shoe after first 2 pairs of v1. But yiou review makes me reconsider. Is the Aero Volt a similar shoe?

[@jameswestmoreland9717]

Shoe prices? Will running and racing become an upper class only sport

[@kofuzi]

I'm not familiar with the Aero Volt

[@FelixArdLykke]

What is the best running shoes after recovery from plantar fasciitis???

[@kofuzi]

I'm afraid I can't answer that. I've never had PF, so I don't have personal experience to draw from. I also don't have any professional education or experience to draw from on this subject.