THe New Balance Rebel V4 has been blowing my mind, when i first wore it I was thinking it was decent, now it seems to get better and better every time I wear it. Shoe seems to be great for almost all kind of training.
@candidobm6 ай бұрын
It isn't easy to compete with Endorphin Speed 4 or even 3. I know nothing better than those shoes for daily training and potential fast days. Right now, Saucony has the best training shoes on the market since the Speed 3.
@Frichilsasta083 ай бұрын
Too bad they murdered the ride and triumph. Ride 17 is heavier, warmer, firmer pwrrun plus...triumph 22 has pb foam but it's somehow firmer wider and heavier...they were cooking w that triumph 20 formula
@Vu-lq5se6 ай бұрын
Been running in V4 for 4 weeks from fast to easy runs and up to 34kms long runs as well and can definitely agree with Nick that this version provides better support for the longer because of wider base (especially when u are tired and form is getting bad). Still feels as light and fast as V2 & V3 with a tad more response from the slightly firm midsole.
@neilcam6 ай бұрын
Great review, although I feel they're in somewhat different categories. Although having said that, I think I've probably become conditioned from watching too many shoe reviews over the past few months to dividing shoes up into far, far too many unnecessary micro-categories. I'm thinking back to when I first started running in the 80s boom and we all had one shoe, and that shoe did everything damn it. Now days, it seems we're almost required by law to have multiple different shoes for multiple different distances and multiple different paces and multiple different types of runs and and and and. It's nonsense of course, and really unless you're fairly seriously competitive, it;s not that hard (despite what so many shoe reviews seem to try to tell us) to find one shoe that will do everything the average runner needs, and either of the the two shoes reviewed would do that.
@emf66216 ай бұрын
Good points! It's great to have all these options, means we can run more, and more comfortably. But indeed it's important not to get addicted to shoes
@brianflath90376 ай бұрын
Good review of two grade updates. I have both the speed three and the rebel V3, and I am putting more miles on each. I have over 300 miles on the speed three and approaching 300 miles on the rebel three. The speed three has been probably my favorite running shoe ever. Disappears on the foot, comfortable and moves me along at a great pace. I have enjoyed the fuel cell foam on the rebel three but see the rebel four as an ice update. I will definitely be purchasing the speed 4 later this summer and might consider the rebel 4 as well.
@jollyroger1009Ай бұрын
You owe it to yourself to get the Rebel v4 as well!
@SantaCruzRunner6 ай бұрын
The vs we've all been waiting for! Thanks y'all
@rajkumarraosinhji13976 ай бұрын
Fantastic, will try Speed 4 at a store. Use Speed 2 (and still have a new pair). Thanks!!!
@OakleyOptions4 ай бұрын
We can only hope that one day Saucony swallows their pride and comes out with a true predecessor to the Speed 2. The diversification into the Pro -> Elite -> Speed was a real slap in the face.
@50Something2 ай бұрын
What did you think of the 4? I'm still running in the Speed 2 as well.
@nyashnader12 ай бұрын
I have both. Rebel is insane beautiful everyday fast trainer. Speed 4 is just ridiculous you’re on a trampoline and you can fly it’s absurd but too aggressive only wants to go fast imo
@N1kolajen6 ай бұрын
Slow runner here(still building up my speed and endurance. is doing a 34min 5k but my easy pace is around 7:30km/min). At the moment im in love with the 1080 V13(just want to run in my 1080 all the time). it just feels good but i understand why people are calling it a "cruiser". Now... would the Rebel V4 make sense for a runner like me? I think the endorphin speed 4 might be "next level" and perhaps too agressive. I want a shoe that supports the running style that the 1080 V13 endorses. Seems like the drop is the same on the Rebel V4.
@dpanman5 ай бұрын
Short answer.. YES!
@Micoslife586 ай бұрын
Im still looking for a speed training shoe (Any recommendations for a beginner runner is appreciated) I might go with the speed 4. Thank you for this review !
@johnybazail6 ай бұрын
You can’t go wrong with the speeds 🫡
@Micoslife586 ай бұрын
@@johnybazail Ill trust you ! Thank you!
@ΓιωργοςΚελεπουρης-ψ8τ10 күн бұрын
Which one of these shoes for half marathon????or brooks Hyperion tempo or hoka mack 6????3.30-4.10 pace
@Padster19696 ай бұрын
Great video, how about a rebel v4 vs hoka Mach 6 comparison?
@jamaaljones8444 ай бұрын
The Speed 4 reminds me of the Speed 1. It has that measure of midfoot/forfoot connectivity
@Feanaro55036 ай бұрын
The V4 upper is so roomy I could almost fit both of my feet in one shoe
@andrewh75994 ай бұрын
The foam in the Rebel is much nicer. It's far more comfortable. I mean like you can wear it all day walking around. The Endorphin Speed makes my feet hurt after about 2 hours. It's not nearly as comfortable. The forefoot cushion is completely underwhelming and it's wildly unstable. The Rebel beats it in every category for me. It's fun, super comfortable, and quite stable.
@Frichilsasta083 ай бұрын
Heard the foam has poor durability though...like past 100ish miles it's no longer as fun. I'm guessing it's dependent on whether you're light or heavy runner
@chriskeene6 ай бұрын
Q I've been using the Saucony Endorphin Speeds for half/10k race days and for me they seem ideal for this, but I've noticed reviews always refer to them as more of a training shoe? My only guess is reviewer tend to have more expensive full carbon plate shoes for race days
@grantmckay70146 ай бұрын
You can pick up carbon racers on sale for cheaper than the Speed. I am on my 4th pair of Speeds and love them but I would still race in a carbon racer on race day.
@jamieoliverjones37756 ай бұрын
"I am a fan of the ES2 and have owned three pairs. However, I found the ES3 to be dull in comparison. On the other hand, I really like the EP3. I am looking for a daily trainer, but I don't want a plated one. Can you provide a comparison between the Rebel V4 and Mach 6? I had the chance to try the Mach 6 at a running show and I found that it had good pop. Is the foam and feel of the Rebel similar to the 1080 Fresh Foam and the RC Racer? I tried those two models on and thought they were great."
@sungoku491627 күн бұрын
7:10 yes same thing happens in speed 3 it doesn't pop like speed line up ,it is too much flexible But speed 4 has snappy bounce ,truely defines the name speed
@jack_rathborn4 ай бұрын
Great reviews as always 👍
@TheRunTesters4 ай бұрын
Amazing. Thanks Jack!
@JoutarouKuujou15 ай бұрын
Would be good if Nick referred to CM sizing instead. But he's the only one who understands UK/US sizing
@karls89896 ай бұрын
I returned the speed 4 because it was too mushy. The rebel is way more responseive even without the plate
@thadbiser6 ай бұрын
Rebel v4 for daily base miles, ES4 for tempo, long runs, and budget racer.
@Jared_Berkey4 ай бұрын
Can you wear either of these for a marathon?
@tomekzys1745Ай бұрын
Hello, I am looking for a shoe in which I will train for a marathon, I would also like to run a marathon in them. I am planning a pace of 4:15/4:20. I'm thinking about Novablast4/ride17/Endorphin speed 4. Can I ask for advice? which shoe will be suitable?
@michaeldennis2630Ай бұрын
I have both esp4 much faster 15 to 20 secs a mile. But nb4 needs break in slower but love them for longer runs less beat up later need 40 miles break in then they become really comfortable
@sean62225 ай бұрын
I tried the new rebel and hate it. Feels sloppy with not enough bounce or structure.
@booksquotes9483 ай бұрын
Speed 4 has carbon plates ??
@aljazG3 ай бұрын
It has a nylon plate
@gabereid826719 күн бұрын
Why have saucony made the speed range so expensive? It's well into the super shoe price range
@chinpoeykhoo62616 ай бұрын
Saucony Speed is on another territory vs rebel series, if the speed 4 doesn't differ much from 3 eventually will just get another pair of 3 at a promo price!
@TheRahewitt6 ай бұрын
Today this day.. I miss the Rebel… v1 .. what a rapid shoe! (For its time)
@maggie02853 ай бұрын
I love the endorphin pro 4. So I bought the speed 4 and was really disappointed. Such a narrow toe box. And the shoe strings aren't very long. Hardly any string to tie them. Ridiculous
@Aron-t6m6 ай бұрын
V4 too roomy upper and to bulky, more stiff totally different from V2 and V3, now looks like astronauts shoes
@Ninja-Cake6 ай бұрын
Rebel v4 is way to short I had to go up a full size
@nyashnader12 ай бұрын
Isn’t reviewing a non plated vs plated irrelevant?
@taurusx10006 ай бұрын
i would go with the rebel
@TheAkenno6 ай бұрын
The Rebel looks so wide I’d be afraid of tripping myself.
@andrewood6 ай бұрын
Why would you buy the 4 get the 3 ,new balance have no durability can't get more than 250 miles out of them, both shoes are bad value imo
@Shipwreckruns6 ай бұрын
I like the rebel v4, but it feels like dating a very attractive but very insane person. Very fun but you know it will end soon and poorly.
@NPC123UH6 ай бұрын
lil too much projection
@NPC123UH6 ай бұрын
its more like dating an attractive person that's super boring
@Shipwreckruns6 ай бұрын
@@NPC123UH I run on my forefoot and after 20 miles I can tell I’m going to flatten it before it’s time. I know it’s due to my mechanics, but I’m still blaming the shoe
@too28105 ай бұрын
@@ShipwreckrunsI noticed that when I tried it on. Despite all the cushion, it didn’t feel very supported under my big toe. All the cushion was in the heel and under the arch