New Banlist for the OCG! Snake-Eyes, S:P Little Knight, and More!

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[@pockit5107]

Ah yes gotta love the OCG limiting ED monsters that were already being played at 1 to 1.

[@mrbondtux4987]

Zeus treatment. TCG tard won't understand

[@xerael4659]

Thank you, John Konami for teaching us proper ratios.

[@speechless1887]

Burning Abyss is wrecking havoc in the ocg so Konami decided to limit Beatrice

[@mrsquadbot]

- there are lists that do play SP at multiple copies - Beatrice is sopt, while the Fiendsmith lists does only play one, various FTKs does play multiple copies to either play through handtraps or to mill more because why not

[@LilyApus]

plausible deniability, basically so they can say "we know S:P is too strong see we limited it to 1!" looks like action when in reality they aren't doing anything

[@SacramentoKingpin]

Don’t be surprised if Seventh Ascension - which is why turtle is banned cuz it lets galaxy eyes search it - gets more cards banned

[@Jyxero]

Didn't Halq had the same impact? (Ofc less effective cause you need to build your deck around it, unlike a link 2 that can scale into a 5.3k asshole who wipes your field)

[@manofsteal5066]

I think they forgor to make SP at 1 the first time. So they did it now

[@jazzyjefffogel]

Sp being at 1 vs 3 doesn't even matter the only deck that was using three used two of them as a warrior link for material

[@kawinchayaporn490]

VV and r-ace use 2, VV use exravagant to has another one if banish by it, r-ace use for protect turbulance and another one for clear board.

[@Leonardo.ohime.i]

no it was a warning to make people not ivest too much into it

[@mugiwaranomohamed5955]

Beatrice and little knight hit is just to remind the players that those cards are on their radar

[@ebrake.5889]

Colossus from 1 to 3 is wild

[@kuroginava8498]

Considering that a lot of new cards set or put cards on the field from the deck and Konami plans to go on like that, colossus is just going to be a 2600/2400 vanilla.

[@TLG_Daception]

@@kuroginava8498 but rn, it’s a MONSTROUS Floodgate at 3! WOOOOT! Colossus at 3! 🎉

[@izzadk86]

In case you never seen it till now, there are some people who are doing more or less the same FTK with the turtle using the Horus engine, usually if they open with the turtle or ice barrier. Use the Horus engine to put 2 monsters on the field, Draglubion > Numeron Dragon > activate effect > ice barrier get turtle> tribute summon > tribute Numeron dragon Same thing, less consistence

[@luispalacios8423]

The Horus engine needs to go. It's only used by toxic decks

[@izzadk86]

@@luispalacios8423 you know the rules, won't be touch as long as it's in the shop

[@MrLeemurman]

Lmao the Catapult Turtle with Horus is so funny. I was trying to do the exact same FTK but with Ra.

[@davyjones5361]

For Plushfire, it’s simply the fastest quickban

[@primedialga]

how to disable yt "shorts" mode: in the url bar of your browser, replace "shorts" with "watch"

[@frank4386]

an even quicker way is to just replace shorts with "v"

[@dontbsalty4138]

Yessssss I was waiting for my boy colossus to come back.

[@NoNameOrLife]

U must be a stun non

[@mrsquadbot]

More like Colossuses

[@Domokun9263]

Konami making a card R1 when we use it at 1 already is their way of saying that this card is on a hit list. They will slowly kill that card. 💯

[@mattlemire4856]

Yessir shout-out Silver, our King of Predaplants

[@linyone]

I see josh stream to qualify World (2023) got deck out because maxx C at spyral 60card deck, and that happen to me to couple days ago too

[@Jellypeño6]

glow up bulb in tear sounds crazy. can make easy savage dragon, maybe run malicious for lvl 7 access or just use it to link for free

[@flamehaze59]

OMG!! thanks for the infos, we will see! this is ocg list, but everyone knows that snake-eyes is powercrept, but konami still don't touch them too much, lol, damn

[@nuclearcrayons3511]

There is an unhealthy relationship between overpowered cards and limited printing that warrants these hits imo

[@fallencloser5028]

Let me ask you a question about colossus you say a 3 it is op.... But have you ever even seen a single copy yet ?

[@GoodMortySmith]

Dkayed it’s HORUS with Catapult turtle 🐢 😂 4 level 8’s into any XYZ & 97 Draglubion, then 100 numeron dragon, catapult turtle FTK 1st turn.

[@Timikator]

You can't search it in horus. Tachyon can

[@jdc2944]

But i saw it used in a horus deck that brings out tachyon or something like that. Its wild

[@GoodMortySmith]

@@Timikator you just need a foolish burial goods or have ice barrier trap in hand and discard to grave with Horus. Once you bring out numeron banish ice barrier trap to get catapult turtle and tribute summon. FTK.

[@GoodMortySmith]

@@jdc2944 yup ice barrier trap gets banished and catapult for the win.

[@fakerererererer]

​@@Timikator I actually had this happen to me in masterduel in the duel cup, horus was able to mill turtle and somehow bring it back to their hand and tribute summoned it and otk me on turn one

[@KyHeartWill]

Glow-up Tearlament!

[@Mr16emmanuel]

Only to get banned next list

[@ayham613]

@@Mr16emmanuel the only thing this card does is access to amritara mid combo so basically you will give up baronne for it

[@sgtiz4399]

@@ayham613also makes naturia beast

[@ayham613]

@@sgtiz4399 no cause you need an earth non tuner unless you want to sac 1 of your fusion summons for mud dragon which is a waste

[@Perfect_Dark_77]

Catapult turtle was my first yugioh card ever. Sad to see him get hit. 😢

[@stuart792]

Well done with the new Website

[@kuroginava8498]

Konami:"We try to avoid OTK and FTK"

[@Jyxero]

"We don't like cards that reduce the interaction between players"... Konami probably after keeping floodgates & forcing mini-game of Maxx C half of the time, while keeping something like Asshole talker to threat anyone who doesn't negate spam

[@-Ryd-]

Konami pls ban summon limit👀 My opponent uses 4 min for his combo to then summon limit me🤡

[@Jyxero]

Any floodgate that is used AFTER whole setup is done should be banned (If not all floodgates, but you know, have to keep the try-hards happy); watching opponent go full Kash combo and the end normal summon Pachicefalo is peak YGO interactivity

[@StolenMemes-101]

I said it! snake eyes is still a selling product for konami and they won't cut out a money souce before it's milked enough.

[@HellRiver92]

Yep, they don't want to do anything to Diabellstar the real problem

[@TarosTheVoid]

That's bc Komoney wanna sell more cards regarding to it's lore Trust me I would love for this card to be vamoosed to make Snake Eyes weaker but hopefully the ban list should do something

[@luiscruz3261]

Not a problem card.

[@HellRiver92]

@@luiscruz3261 Unashable, Inherent Special Summon, Extender, 3 Copies, Floating Effect, Fire Support??

[@cnydo]

​@@HellRiver92 ban poplar and oss. These 2 are the real bridges of witch and fire decks

[@user-br5gp1cy9z]

Diabellstar is good for the meta let me talk I love vs against snake eye and all stadigies of it ots way better then vs against labyrinth trap users who r boring af or stun plus snake eye is beatable if play against rescue ace turbulence after he resolves u just straight up lose nomater what it's almost as toxic as harald of ultimate and snake can be beaten contently with branded and sword soul and it also has a fair match up against reduce ace it has 15 plus 1 card starters @dykayed pls offer ur opion on this so people see ur approval too and I'm a sword soul player so ik I can beat snake eye

[@CrisRullz]

any OCG hit on extra deck mons is cuz of their 2v2/3v3 tourneys..

[@revo1ver305]

Is it only me who being stunned whatever the build i play in the WCS Opponent always dimension shifter me While the others necrovalley

[@12mannation253]

Does this list count for master duel?

[@starrk5569]

Just have to run a second sinful spoils and snake eye is fine

[@Cave_Guy]

Fastest OTK I've ever seen

[@kyleroll95]

Colossus makes sense because they has maxx c

[@TheAnimatedJester]

Konami Hates field spells in Master Duel

[@metis7534]

Yubel’s top 3 rn? 😭 we are so up bro

[@aexionmusic]

This is ocg. If you (tcg players) complain about maxx c so shut up it's not in your area. Your area has banned maxx c

[@GrassMedici-zk2mv]

yeah they keep bothering OCG like a salty loser. Max c allow more diverse meta, tcg keep banning undeserved (unchain for example) while keep the expensive snake they curently sell full power

[@fraternovaeres]

​@@GrassMedici-zk2mv more diverse meta? Whatever ends up meta in OCG ends up meta in TCG. Hint: meta decks can play Maxx C too. The deck diversity isn't changed at all by Maxx C, but deck list diversity is impacted dramatically.

[@GrassMedici-zk2mv]

@@fraternovaeres Look at the topping deck persentage in OCG. snake is no where as tier 0 as tcg, There are also more variety deck that toping. TCG keep saying meta deck can play max c too, so what?? it also enable weaker deck to compete its a worth it trade. TCG player is salty their expensive meta deck getting maxceed by some random deck

[@ayham613]

​@@GrassMedici-zk2mv it's not diverse unchained wasn't meta in the ocg because of maxx c how is this diverse ? maxx c limits the diversity of decks cause the best deck will often be the deck with less summons and better boards and this isn't the case in tcg and even if it made the meta diverse which it didn't that doesn't justify it's existence cause it also limits deck building . it's just an auto win card if you don't draw the answer for it which is really unhealthy for the game

[@jumnei5159]

I just play master duel

[@megacyber11]

We'll never get Glow-Up Bulb until Kitkallos gets banned. Is anybody willing to accept that trade off?

[@Eksu768]

i think they're doing what they did with zeus, where it just stays at 1

[@TeddyGamesLP]

lol, this won't change anything just a little bit of less consistency for snake eyes

[@HakuDuhGreat]

Sky striker can abuse kaiser coliseum too

[@marcosetnavrec899]

Yes, MD always pairs me up against that deck lol

[@HakuDuhGreat]

@@marcosetnavrec899 I love sky striker

[@metalmariomega]

Yeah but it doesn't help with outing a board, stopping backrow removal or dealing with Backrow so it's pretty bad and only worth hitting because of what it represents(singleton cards that lead to nongames). The summon restriction traps have always been LEAGUES better because they double as board wipes, but they're also 2-sided so they can be tricky to manage without ways to self-remove them(though a deck like Sky Striker can use Multirole, Zeke or Area Zero to do that so the main issue is you don't want to run a card that only works well when going first).

[@HakuDuhGreat]

@@metalmariomega that's y u play it plus sky striker is all about breaking boards

[@user-wp5ke6gv9y]

Also káiser coliseum makes nibiru sumon ilegal that's why salamangreat uses it

[@FullUhFools]

Beatrice would murder Drytron at 0 even though no one play that anymore.

[@spacepsycat]

Where is the roach??????????

[@GyzelE]

More disgusting than Pot of Greed, yet it's unlimited. Idk, makes no sense at all.

[@drybonez2087]

? Wym roach?

[@Kurial94]

Maxx c is a cockroach

[@saadiqraufkhan2618]

@@drybonez2087maxx c (cockroach)

[@sjaakbakker9944]

@@drybonez2087maxx c

[@leonott5486]

No maxx c ban ? So if i play with the ocg list i have to use stun

[@Jyxero]

Such a smart solution to the problem... Bravo #BanMaxxC

[@casual_Nova]

Bonfire should be limited to one

[@Daragoniceblade]

"Unaffected by" is why I went to stun decks and burn decks. You can't ss with stun and with burn, doesn't matter if your monsters are Unaffected. You'll still take the damage

[@rustik6096]

Just use destructive karma canon lol

[@Daragoniceblade]

@rustik6096 I've used that in lab decks. Might actually try it in my burn deck to save up on battle damage.

[@lionablaze8747]

hell yeah. stun is fun, especially against meta decks.

[@user-xt6wj9vx7f]

​@@lionablaze8747Stun is not fun to play or to be against only people who enjoy it are yugiboomers with 0 braincells.

[@commentstealer4460]

Best way to get rid of Unaffected monsters is kaiju, Daruma karma cannon and evenly matched . (Karma cannon is the easiest way to do it)

[@ErovErov]

Nothing will change till they ban OSS and or errata/ban Flamberge

[@adanganaafan2811]

Nah OSS is fine since it gets hard countered by Ash but flamberge is a problem

[@Joe-oo5mk]

Flameberge alone isn't a problem, every card in the snake eye arc type is a proble, if you really think about it flameberge is just a + 1 body on the field with sum utilities

[@maticveldin4309]

​@@Joe-oo5mk Sure and put a card in spell zone plus summon it next turn

[@VixYW]

@@adanganaafan2811 Flamberge is a really cool boss monster. But using it as en extender is cheating.

[@Joe-oo5mk]

@@maticveldin4309 Promethean princess + amblawhale on field can reborn IP so it have the same effect

[@sjaakbakker9944]

Have you read misc?

[@AshininKai-YT]

A question which deck I should I play to as counter deck for all

[@leonott5486]

Stun

[@AshininKai-YT]

@@leonott5486 I asked the deck name there are multiple stun Decks

[@Jyxero]

Sadly the answer is stun... Closest second is Lab which can die by a single Ash blossom #BanMaxxC

[@AshininKai-YT]

@@Jyxero Well I used to play sky strikers but I deleted that account so now I am starting from zero

[@Jyxero]

@@AshininKai-YT SS is decent going second these days, considering most of interactions out there go against monsters... May cost a bit more, but I encourage to try Endy(mion)Striker

[@algerianproudthatheisrussi7345]

3 colossus lets goo

[@DanielRM3]

more floodgates lets gooo

[@vince_target_2127]

On MD Beatrice is UR therefore they likely not gonna even touch it there, dunno why but feel like UR had an impact about how likely theyll hit the card

[@NoNameOrLife]

Definitely

[@holiidayseason]

No dragoon make me sad

[@Jyxero]

Ban verte? Sure

[@SaltymanGaming]

I swear whoever is running the OCG banlist just throws a bunch of random cards on there to make it look like their doing something.. it's just a bunch of pointless limits or unlimits. It's also kind of funny how to immediately ban every obscure burn related FTK but refuse to ban the 1 card Zero Turn Kill that every deck plays at 3.

[@flamehaze59]

little knight is overused, so maybe they will ban her :( *in MD

[@zaccomptonk590]

Unban dark matter

[@trafalgarlaw3486]

I’m just throwing this out there how the hell is MAXX C not on this list

[@theobserver480]

they want to keep tcg and ocg different i think

[@trafalgarlaw3486]

@@theobserver480 see here’s the thing there’s “Different” and Hitting the Obvious

[@Jyxero]

​@@trafalgarlaw3486 Cause they don't see it as a problem, long time has passed and the roach is still there for a reason... #BanMaxxC

[@raizen3524]

I really don't understand konami Why limit sangen summoning while the game is based on who win the coins toss and go 1st And tenpai is the best deck going 2nd

[@ayham613]

it isn't there are a lot of cards that help going 2nd and a deck that otks on the spot without being able to respond isn't healthy

[@lylemcdermott2566]

There's two reasons I can think of, if it's a "too generic" searcher or it's level/stats/attributes that allows exploits by other archetypes. That and the fact that there are so many ways to dump it to the GY for cost or whatever so it's always a win win situation when you use it, opponent negates first effect not the second, you still pop off,you get what I meant.

[@ayham613]

@@lylemcdermott2566 the only reason it's limited is because of the protection it provides you are basically playing turn 1 with a battle phase if sangan summoning is active and they want to limit that and I hope it gets banned

[@GyzelE]

Sorry man, but if you say the words "unhealthy" and "Maxx C" in the same sentence but don't consider Maxx C an unhealthy card, your opinions are immediately ignored by me.

[@user-ev9rf9wh8b]

Careful now, the bots will come for you... "Learn to counter it🤡"

[@brewersbaseball31]

I like max c

[@empresscarrie6230]

tell me right tf now master duel would be better without maxx. if you do, you’re wrong. it ALREADY is difficult for going second. i’ve been playing striker recently, and a lot blind second when playing it, but in my experience it’s just not feasible with the boards people put up in md currently. even tear, supreme king. think about that. a deck that DESPERATELY wants to go second (tenpai is exception bc of its field and battle phase oriented summoning negating nib and even veiler, it’s a perfect storm), simply cannot feasibly do it, even with maxx c running around to boost its chances. maxx c is NEEDED in md and if you think otherwise you’re simply wrong. that’s it. no other way to put it. how many tcg regional/ycs recaps do you see that simply state “went second” when going over their losses? now imagine that in bo1.

[@optimumpride7057]

This game has become stupid if there is no max c u just eat full on combo by the first player

[@TheSonicZero]

Huh?!?!

[@IvoNinja_]

DID THEY BAN MAXX C!?

[@jasontu2636]

NO. JAPANESE GAME COMPANIES SUCK AT BALANCE

[@Jyxero]

In our dreams... #BanMaxxC

[@Kyugired]

14:54 The reason why Number 40: Gimmick Puppet of Strings is limited is solely for it's ability to put string counters to monsters. It's effect to burn your opponent for 500 at the end of their next turn by destroying all monsters with string counters is not really relevant. It's CHAOS XYZ FORM, is the one who is BENEFITNG FROM THE COUNTERS. Since ON-SUMMON OF THE DARK STRINGS, IT DESTROYS ALL MONSTERS WITH STRING COUNTERS + BURNS DAMAGE EQUAL TO THE ONE WITH HIGHEST ATTACK + DRAWS 1 CARD. So this hit just makes their OTK harder since they would now have to change the sequencing of their summons and more likely to mess up. (Unless they used the deck from way back and know how to pilot it carefully)

[@myrmecii578]

What is Chaos XYZ Form? can't find it on YGO database

[@bobby45825]

I'll have to keep my eyes open for the updated lists if it comes limited to MD.

[@kenji3985]

@@myrmecii578 search for "Number C40"

[@ferdyoktav]

​@@myrmecii578Basically its C variant of Number XYZ monsters

[@thanhdatpham1656]

Beatrice to 1 is likely a warning shot. They might ban it in the next banlist. Same scenario with SP

[@King_Zangetsu12820]

Ngl i dont care too much about OCG, only TCG

[@user-em6iu8ej3c]

As a OCG player, I'm the exact opposite😅

[@inspiradorupees3029]

Yep thanks Master Duel, just kill the snake eyes deck, so stupid

[@Pursue.Happiness]

Thunder Dragon Colossus is a broken card and will be toxic if this hits Master Duel

[@darkreuchiha1842]

Colussous is already in master duel, it's just limited to 1

[@LilyApus]

you mean the thing that's always been unbanned in MD? lmao

[@AllanFuentebella]

​@@LilyApus Yup it's my first deck in MD Dragons and it's always unbanned since the games released I love MD

[@Pursue.Happiness]

@@darkreuchiha1842 I’m talking about if it being unlimited comes to MD, it’s hard as hell to out 1 let alone 3

[@darkreuchiha1842]

@Pursue.Happiness It dies to imperm, kaiju, and being wacked on the head by a large enough stick. It also dies to Zeus, druiswarm and chaos angel and any targeted monster negate. It also dies to TTT and change of heart. 🤷

[@realzeero8316]

Tenpai is a joke

[@orangtoxic3483]

UNBAN MERRRRLLLIIIII!!!!!

[@mrbondtux4987]

ngimpi lu kontol

[@brandonayala2507]

Yessssir free my guy colossus

[@drewsky1121]

Give us glow up all already in MD Synchro decks haven’t been relevant ever since the dragon links hits

[@Yami0to0hikari]

Is dragon link even considered a synchro deck though? It plays like 2 synchro cards on average in the extra

[@amr3731]

Do we really gonna ignore superheavy samurai like that

[@Keizrel]

Since Adamancipator hit Synchro is not doing well, those were amazing times where Blocky boi was alive

[@goblinslayer1115]

I have a question for all of you pendulum enjoyers out there 🗿. Does plushfire and kirin help pendulums a lot? If not, why?

[@TheRicardobtc]

I can't talk about Plushfire, but Kirin was banned because it was virtually untouchable. Only way to deal with Majespecters (back then) is by combat, but Kirin would simply bounce itself and whatever your best card was on the field if you tried to attack it. That's not good enough nowadays, with so much negation and so much recursion. Also, Pendulums have never recovered from MR4. Kirin should've been unbanned a *very* a long time ago. It's getting unbanned now because Konami recently released Majespecter support and they probably saw Kirin was still on the list.

[@metis7534]

@@TheRicardobtcmr 6 give us pendulum zones once more

[@sofarsogood8680]

Nah , plushfire, kirin and pendulum decks overall would not shake the meta at all . Most cards nowadays can easily counter and bypass kirin . And plushfire is not a problem anymore after been errata . The fact that konami release kirin after 3 core set , and there's no hype anymore and people already forget the majespecter support , really showing you how afraid and hate konami to pendulum

[@omegacxv8344]

​@@metis7534hell naw! Two extra zones that can only be used by one play style, fuck that noise!

[@user-vg1tl6hb2e]

He’s a newbie lol

[@Keizrel]

Cry more TCG babies, the roach is alive and the C is forever

[@Someone-lg6di]

So this banlist was so masive nothing changed in rhe meta at all great b list grade F-

[@darkreuchiha1842]

Turtle needs to be banned in master duel as well.

[@Rilo888]

Why would I want my opponent to play with me. I’m not gay I prefer to play the game by myself

[@obskewerd3992]

@ 20:18 you think theyre uninteractive? Yet you hype up Labrynth oh so much? I prefer to play against snake eyes than Labrynth. Lab is just “I actually hate the game and I wanna make you hate it too” The deck.

[@luispalacios8423]

OCG is the most stupid and most toxic format ever created.

[@empresscarrie6230]

nah. no way. L take. tcg literally only wants money. their banlists are FUELED SOLELY by the money they make. without question. borrel and baronne ban? well screw every rogue deck that used em. tcg is trash

[@dfaiz5431]

😂 TCG keep complaining the format they are not playing at is more stupid

[@jjasuka]

Lmao keep crying loser

[@ayham613]

@@dfaiz5431 I would argue master duel is more toxic

[@Keizrel]

@@ayham613the Best of one is not the best but hey, at least cards are free, I got my SP by just playing the game and not paying hundred dolars for just a stupid card

[@SoftyCup94]

Yugioh must die