New Battleforces! Good but Not Worth it?

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In this episode of Model and Memories #160 Jay talks about Stompy The Reaver Titan being on Warhammer Community, needing your help to find some models, and the New Ork and Custodes Battleforces!!! We have new videos every Monday, Wednesday and Friday!
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[@EonsOfBattle]

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[@jacobhawkins6772]

I never have to think will my ork opponent bring a stompa, she brings it ,every, single, time

[@Piflle]

Based

[@AriSolMorningstar]

Based

[@toros7983]

How does it go?

[@strawberrypuddin8919]

Based

[@tyranitorn8632]

girls don’t play warhammer

[@kennymartin5976]

Congrats on Stompy Jay! I was so excited when I saw him on Warhammer Community!!

[@satire__]

what article?

[@GuruCube]

It's in the video, ​@@satire__

[@satire__]

@@GuruCube at that point I hadn't fully watched the video :/

[@unaibarrera1145]

Great job painting the Titan, and awesome work getting the commendation!

[@babblingbeastofnurgle]

I saw stompy on warhammer community!!!! Congratulations!!! You should add a little trophy decal or something on him!

[@Sephvion]

The Stompa is the one must have, for an Ork player, just to have. No Ork collection would be without it. It's like us Necron collectors not having a Monolith, just for the cool model.

[@stuartbanana5083]

I’ve always been tempted to scratch build one myself rather than shelling out the big bucks, but I suppose the box is a great excuse to pull the trigger!

[@itsjustj6205]

Commenting to follow for the cheat sheet

[@vixxihlialocke5117]

If you find a good cheat sheet, could you link it on the discord or in the newsletter?

[@somenerdpng]

or on the community page because yeah it would be much appreciated

[@sha_663]

I love how he activates his community to get hands on cool minis

[@KleineKassiopeia]

It just fills me with Joy to hear Jay talk about miniatures. His excitement is infactuating and allways gets my hobby juices flowing.

[@DrFopolopolas]

I would love to spend a weekend with him building a brand new combat patrol or him just showing me all his amazing minis haha

[@KleineKassiopeia]

@@DrFopolopolas I would love to pour a random drink with him and then sculpt dick towels with green stuff together

[@Scarfy397]

Reaper makes some really good yetis. They have them available in white resin but I think they may have them in the black plastic resin now as well.

[@CliffordBrammer]

"a stompa is a preposterous unit to take" someones forgotten who ork players are

[@dawidkowalewicz5845]

Unusual Yeti Mini Recommendation: Northern Alliance Cavern Dweller

[@derrickduncan3495]

I honestly love Stompy, he is big impractical mega delicate and just about everything one doesn't want to bring to a game. But still he is just awesome. Congratulations on getting awarded and featured on Warhammer community you deserve it after all the work you put into him.

[@tajj7]

The new Custodes combat patrol I think is better than the battlebox, you get guard, wardens, terminators and a blade champion, all useful units. The issue with the battlebox is the 6 bikes, they are not great in game and people have a lot of them anyway because you get 3 in the previous combat patrol. I also think the combat patrol is more points per dollar than the battlebox, it's honestly probably best for people starting a custodes army to see if they can pick up the old combat patrol and the new combat patrol, IIRC that gets you around 1.4k points without building any shield captain and basically gives you a nice core to the army, with 2 guard units, 1 warden, 1 terminator, 3 bikes, some sisters and a blade champion. So you only need to spend a little more to add say Trajam, maybe some more wardens/guard and you will have 2k.

[@toasthammer]

But also the battle force and the new combat patrol do get you immediately to 2k points! For a new player just having to buy 2 (discount) boxes for an entire army is pretty enticing I'd say.

[@tajj7]

@@toasthammer Yes I do agree, but I think the combat patrol just brings more useful units, honestly new players are probably better off getting two new combat patrols IMO, then adding like Trajan and other units they might want.

[@giominus7402]

The Stompa is the big reason I'll ever start playing Orkz. That said the battlebox is perfect.

[@jonneff]

I understand what your saying on the ork box but hear me out. I Purchased the Combat Patrol 2 yrs ago. Then this past xmas I got the Stampede box set. Now this box is coming , and it literally gives me such a huge collection of Orks to work with owning all 3 boxes. The Stompa to me was something I wanted but wouldn't buy on it's own tbh really. So having it come with the box really was awesome for someone like me looking to just expand my Ork collection along with at some point more options for play! I've been waiting on this battleforce since the moment I saw it was coming , Im so excited!!!!!

[@jakeosiris3971]

Same boat, I’m actually gonna split the battle force with a friend as I don’t need more trukks or Lootas, I just want the character and stompa

[@solomonhicks6244]

Since you said it, I would appreciate a video where you explain the rules of Catan in 4 minutes please

[@CAEeQuilibium]

Regarding photography: they would or should be using focus stacking for product photos, especially for big ones like stompy! So you take focused shots of parts of the model then stack them together to have everything in focus!

[@kennymartin5976]

Yeah, I already have all the Custodes minus ol' Sweepy, so I'm going to skip it and wait for a Sweepy Solo Release.

[@craigarkle1077]

Well done on the commendation! Was so pleased to see it feature on the website!

[@lamMeTV]

8:06 Battleforces

[@sadlyanuxtakustan8950]

The stompa is going to he a very funny choice in the new ork dreadmob detachment. You can give him a +1 to hit in the end of the movement phase from an ork mek boy, then spend 1cp on a stratagem for reroll all hits in exchange for a hazardous test on each weapon.

[@stuartbanana5083]

With Sustained 1, Lethal hits or the AP crit!! Press Dat Button!!

[@Grubnar]

You are wrong about the Ork Army Box, HEAR ME OUT! Sure your logic makes sense, but the thing you are forgetting is that this is for ORKZ! And what do ORKZ do? KONVERSHUNS! Personally, I am buying two, but I might want even more. I want to konvert the stompas to make the OOP Forge Wold stompas, the Klaw-Stompa and Mek-Stompa, but I also want to just use the parts to make a plastic Kill-tank, or some other konvershuns. One of the trukks will be used to make Mek-Gunz, and the other will be used to make a half-trakk for my Mega-Nobz. And there is ALWAYS room for more Boyz! In short, this is not a "must-have" for new Ork players, but it is a GREAT box for veteran Ork collectors!

[@primelever7633]

Great work on the Titan. May I suggest a simple basing diorama for the Warhound. A Tech-Priest Dominus walking in front with the Warhound on a long chain leash 👍

[@rdilgart]

im also super interested in a cheat sheet!!! Please let us know

[@JasonTeach]

With dreadmob detachment you could see an actual Ork walker army that can go up against choas knights.

[@greggonzalez661]

Stompy is amazing. Congratulations!🎉. Well deserved and what’s on the table for next time?

[@charlesdobbs7989]

Congrats on Stompy!!! Super cool!!

[@2ClutchGamers]

Jay, you're sort of right about the Stompa box. I have everything I need, but I don't have a Stompa

[@bradtownsend5532]

Congrats on Stompy! You are an amazing painter.

[@IBPaintsppp-wt5ou]

Honestly One page rules would be a much easier way to get people into the gaming side of the hobby. Would highly recommend.

[@aroncheek5092]

I bought gremlins 2 on dvd last week ☺️

[@celambor]

I was so happy seeing Stompy on the recommended

[@terrydavis5924]

The stompa box looks perfect for me as a returning Ork player, just enough burnas and lootas to bring my 10 man squads to full force, new character, and something to face off with Knights. With the points I already have it's almost perfectly enough to put me at 2k with units I use

[@gmanplaysgames256]

the Ork box actually looks fun to me and I don't even play Orks, might grab it just to stick on the shelf until all my other projects are done.

[@sillylung]

I probably wont ever play the stompa but im getting the box FOR the stompa. Ive wanted to paint one up ever since i first saw it.

[@TheShyOnion]

A year ago you said you were gonna do some grey knight content, stick to your promises jay!

[@FelipeBudinich]

I'm so happy you got the commendation 🎉

[@zsmith8632]

Tou got one entry done, but it was a giant Warlord Titan

[@chetmanley1885]

With the codex the Stompa is no joke, it's unlikely to be a competitive staple but the Dread Mob makes it kinda hilarious. I've wanted one for a while, it's big and stupid and therefore proper orky, the battleforce just let me get one pkus some other things I was after at a healthy discount

[@boredmagala5701]

I was gonna buy the ork battle force and use the stompa kit to make some scuffed gorka/morkanauts(1 of each using the stompa’s arms to differentiate between them) and maybe use whatever leftover panels I have from tearing it apart to make some grot tanks with, along with some kataphron Breacher treads

[@samuelsanders5755]

Jay I’d love to see that Tau Diorama. Maybe give the Ork some type of garbage gun which would never get through a Tau shield but because he believes hard enough it starts to work. You could even make a nice title plate for it saying “Beleef”

[@Riddler_von]

I think a cool idea for Don’t look back is the model of the old FPS unreal tournament guy. Available from Hardcore miniatures. Imagine a space worror dropped into a campsite and all he knows is kill them all. That’s a cool mashup.

[@lynchthefish2132]

I'm sure you've seen the reaper miniatures yeti. I really like those ones.

[@jasondryhurst-smith2409]

Does this mean, new stompa model for the codex, or just straight gone?

[@musiclistnerable]

If you entered into the 30k event you could throw in a destroyed Deimos predator and paint it in word bearer colours, like you speculated on doing as an army a while ago

[@kpmack0914]

For the yeti mini, paint it all in Musou Black, to capture the fuzzy photo effect. Did that for a mothman mini & it's hilarious but effective.

[@SwoleCrozius]

Congrats Jay.

[@Doodlebob563]

Y'know I was just thinking to myself that I was starting to forget squarespace and needed to see 50 videos in a row sponsored by them lol

[@mrogf7777]

I can remember my mate found a ork mech that can piolet a forge world mech stompa for like 200-250pts less than the stompa its self and he also give is a void sheild! when he found out he can do this it would bring this every game with like 60-90 shooter around it and just win.... and ye he would allways upgrade with belly cannon and two gun arms! this was way back in a older edition!... when forge world had a mech stompa! and well forge world was a thing and made baggers of models

[@jamesforsyth9132]

i really like the big mek he is so cool i have been wanting an exo suit ork model

[@TeroyanatorLS]

History immortalized!! Stompy done Justice!!

[@soffren]

I was so happy to see Jay's titan on WH community. I wanted to tell a friend, then I realized I had no friends

[@foreverfornever1124]

The stompa is definitely the free model. It hardly sells and GW knows that so dangeling the new big mek and a decent number of troops and a truck for new or veteran players was the goal. It remains to be seen if the new Ork codex will make the stompa better so its good to have it just in case. Otherwise its a cool project to display on the shelf. Also, Its hard to make a bad Custodes box. The jetbikes are definitely from the old Combat Patrol. The battleforce goes well with both the new and old CP so its a great time to start the army. $600 for almost everything in the range is such a great deal!! FW models would be the only thing you would need, which all the money you saved can be put towards a few of those kits.

[@damondestructo]

There are a number of nice yeti on my mini factory.

[@user-ry7tq6bc8c]

How can you possibly have more things to say jay!

[@dankvu]

Reaper Minis have good Yeti models. I like the poses on them

[@TheGhostFaceCamper]

Ork Battleforce aka: We can't sell stompas because they cost too many points and its rules suck so if we put it in a box with a discount maybe people will buy the overstock we have.

[@Hakan-mz6pd]

BruteFun Miniatures on MMF makes a great yeti (for Bloodbowl)

[@AliceGind]

the boardgame "Horrified: American Monsters" from 2021 has the best Big Foot mini I've found plus you get a great game and 5 other cryptid minis

[@ChaseDaOrk3767]

What's your opinion on the Beastsnaggas battleforce?

[@aspectnato8077]

Tyranid combat patrol is £95 The starter set is £55 The difference? Two barbgaunts...

[@leonidas231]

Do a basing video on night time themed bases

[@legionnaireminis]

Id love to see someone make the Stompa in to a figure case like the old Star Wars and GIJoe cases

[@taylorwilkinson9860]

ive been getting into warhammer again after over a decade, i wanna do 40K(have 640 points into a Salamanders army)but i also have love for the seraphon, i was wondering if the Vanguard boxes were good for them, like if they are a good combat patrol, like the old dark angels box, or a kinda turd one, like the new dark angels box.

[@BroodingEdgelord]

Can you cover the female custodies fight?

[@jocelynpouget6133]

congrats on recommendation though this big guy looks better in your video than in the GD picture I barely recognized it. Stompa looks fun that's the spirit not competitive.

[@Kadaververwaertungsanstalt]

The ork set is great, you get a stompa and 5 lootas for free, thats arguments enoug! I ordered 2 boxes😜

[@unomauhasard5219]

I just think the stompa would look good in my collection.

[@drigoleus1055]

Jay have you tried crusade game mode?

[@daaaah_whoosh]

Every time I see a new battleforce I wonder why T'au didn't get one, and then I remember, they got Kroot.

[@waltereadie3620]

You say this like it's a bad thing. That Kroot hunting pack box set is NY favorite combo box I've ever got from Warhammer.

[@Ragnarockthedarkwolf]

I did buy the Ork box

[@mizter5597]

With the new walker and mek focused detachment Stompa might be a lot stronger

[@Moonenvoy93]

Horrified North American monsters edition has some great models. The Bigfoot should be perfect in there

[@DreadnoughtMan266]

Hey you I see you looking at the comments, LIKE THE VIDEO

[@SuperDuperHappyTime]

The Kroot one was good because it was about giving Kroot their spotlight, just like the Beast-Snaggas for Orks a few years ago. This Ork box looked like garbage and an excuse to move the Stompa.

[@jacobtaylor9879]

Being in the UK and no Golden demon this year , I feel like I've gained 14 months of time for my Golden demon ... but I'm still behind 😂

[@danielpelczer234]

The Brutefun Yeti is pretty decent

[@nessingitup]

i've hear that the gorkanaut can one shot a ctan theoretically. with proper setup, in the new codex and if it doesnt kill itself with hazardous

[@channelsofash]

Oops we made too many Ork Stompas combined with oops we didn't make the rules good enough in 9th edition. Solution a box set of useful units with a free Stompa.

[@AbelDuviant]

That picture REALLY makes it look like Stompy's head is the rocket launcher

[@Jan_Iedema]

Kinda works actually he’s just also got a face on his belly hahaha

[@Kevathar1138]

A proposterous unit for Orks, you say? I'm not sure an orky player knows what proposterous is, and would probably just call you a git.

[@melindaphantom9450]

I have the old combat patrol box and a box of terminators, so that's my 1000pts custodes army, and I was looking at the the battle force box until they revealed the combat patrol, and to be honest I think I'd rather the combat patrol and maybe another box of jet bikes than the battleforce now, and that will give me pretty much near 2000 pts before I start looking at Forgeworld and allied Knights

[@Rook986]

a stompa is the best points per dollar in the game, so its good for a budget option for orks

[@cmeade82]

KZbind some vids on Stompa. Hope GW improved the instructions .

[@RAINBOWBEARMAN]

Well, I do. love it

[@gregoryhall4062]

When you find the perfect bigfoot I'll buy one too!

[@Burgala]

Best bigfoot is obviously chewbacca!

[@SuperKingslaw]

If you get a decent cheat sheet for 10th Ed 40k please share!

[@browncaramelboba8408]

Its very funny that they made bf for ork and custodes so bad, just to make the combat patrol for both army to be super good. Its just like this is all part😮 of their plans.

[@thebardbardelli6515]

Where are y'all finding bigfoot models??? I need a few

[@n3kra]

At this point I'm just coming to watch the different pronunciations of "hOw?" : P (Awesome video as usual)

[@rileytaggart-pn3kq]

I wanted to play orks for kill team are they good?

[@mikewoody209]

Mythicos, mythic americas has some amazing sasquatch.

[@Chasemcloud5745]

I feel Henry cavill told them to make the custodes box amazing

[@M1tZk1]

Overwatch... yeah... I had a game, where my oponent rolled 7 attacks. There were 6 sixes. Sustained hits. The 7th. Attack he was able to reroll and it also became a six. That was tough for the squad. I lost that gane in the end by less than 5 points, so I would say, that this overwatch was a slight gameswinger.

[@benhess6829]

Teach them horde mode from Poorhammer. It's a cooperative mode that is great for teaching new players.

[@Riddler_von]

But isn’t a Stompa a cool thing to have on the shelf behind you and if you’re opponent doesn’t know the rules then it looks like.. My army is so great I don’t even need to bring that ( half a game board monster) to beat you.

[@Xatxitor]

GD 30K less competitive? Have you seen the bronze? A gorgious ascended Horus, so nicely painted