Having owned both, there's not much between them to be fair. But I kept the Ducati, I suppose that says it all.
@ItsAllJustBollox Жыл бұрын
You forgot the service schedule and warranty these are important on bikes designed to do touring..
@fs5866 Жыл бұрын
I would suggest to stick to a 5000 mile oil/filter change, regardless of what any man manufacturer says, that is if you wanna keep your bike for many many years. I do this with my 1100 Africa Twin, got to 50k miles in 3 years and i have not one issue, bike runs as if it was new.
@bella_testastretta Жыл бұрын
The new interval for multi stranda is ridiculously long lol
@fs5866 Жыл бұрын
Ducati is notorious for have really poor engine reliability and if you've seen that fortnine engine oil residue test, their internals are among the dirtiest runners. I don't buy it at all with their long oil change intervals lol.
@bella_testastretta Жыл бұрын
@@fs5866 They have a lot of oil residue but that actually doesn't make them less reliable. Also there are 4 different types of engines Ducati is currently running and he ran the lowest spec engine(scrambler engine) for the test, and none of the higher end engines. Ducati's have been very reliable for the past decade after the VW takeover. I love when people base everything off what they see on fortnine lol. Edit: It's always the ones who never owned a Ducati complaining about reliability when all the Ducati owners are completely satisfied.
@BIGGGESTAL Жыл бұрын
4 year unlimited mileage warranty on a Ducati
@patrickhd34 Жыл бұрын
The irony is that the GS1300 may feel faster on the road due to the torque. I went from a 1200GSA to a Multi V4S. Multi is easier to ride, particularly heavy traffic filtering. Can use it for distance, plus also Sunday morning sports bike. But the Multi is thirsty. Stopping for fuel is not a problem...my bladder only has a 185 mile range - absolute max.
@os6219 Жыл бұрын
Ducati is Ducati, BMW is BMW. Choose whatever you like. I take BMW every day. 2 of them. 1 for Touring, 1 for sports. Ducatis are like Viagra powered Fiats.
@kwakithailand Жыл бұрын
@@os6219os629 misspelled AUDI 😂
@ItsAllJustBollox Жыл бұрын
The Multi is not too bad touring at legal speeds 50mpg is achievable it's when you use the power they can drink a bit.
@chrisvantassel88677 ай бұрын
As the owner of a GS (2021) and a multi (2023 Pikes Peak) both are great bikes but I have a different take and it is based on many miles on both. The GS with the Telelever to me is a compromise. As different as that suspension is it sucks off road and is vague on road. To me the GS is a sporty couch with the intention to be many things but falling short on many things. Now I have the Pikes Peak so I have the Ohlins EC2 semi active suspension. When you compare my GS to my Pikes Peak it is like comparing a sporty SUV to an actual race car. There is absolutely no comparison in on road performance. The PP is THE most stable high speed vehicle I have ever experienced, it is fast, smooth, taught and handles like a race bike. That being said the PP is in a different class. When comparing the standard Multi to a standard GS it gets closer but the one thing that these comparisons can never factor in is the pure smiles for miles. Pretty well any BMW I have owned has been good but never great, they always lack soul and fun factor. Ducati and KTM lead the world in that category. With that said, I buy bikes for the thrill and the experience not economics or tech. If I really wanted to tour it is my Street Glide, offroad my Desert X and Beta 390 or 890 Rally, for pure face flattening fun the Pikes Peak or Super Duke. There is not a single bike I own that does not do its respective thing better than any GS.......compromise! It is more important to me to have the tool for the job and not try and make an inappropriate tool do things it was not designed for. The same can be said for the standard Multi but I assure you that the multi is better on road than any GS and at least on par off road but with the smile factor. To sum it up I feel like a passenger on my GS and a pilot on my Pikes Peak.
@themystx26 ай бұрын
You are spot-on about how rock stable the MTS is, I have a regular V4 S and it is a pleasure to ride at 120 mph and I held that speed for 100+ miles. Let's just say I went with the Ducati over a GS because I'm old but I still like to squid and the Ducati is better at squidding than the BMW ever dreams of being.
@myousic456429 күн бұрын
Wow, exactly my thoughts. I did not rode PP but V4S and 1250GS and that's 1:1 with your conclusions. GS is a great bike but just not for me. I did hundreds of kilometers without any problems. It's comfy, well made, handles nicely but it's just a SUV. It takes you in a comfortable manner from A to B but completly lacks the feeling that i'm looking for when riding a bike. V4S puts a big smile and an adrenaline rush every time I ride. That's why I ordered FL 2025 V4S :)
@ThePumpkinheed Жыл бұрын
Seems a pretty bang on summary, look forward to trying the new 1300 GS. My 1250 will take some beating!... Only point I'd maybe disagree on is the seat height adjustment going to the Multistrada. The BMW has several seat options, of which there is several levels of height adjustment on the bike for each, then also the standard suspension vs the sports suspension which adds even more height adjustment and obviously the lowering kits. Pretty sure you can have the GS in every 10mm increment from 800 - 900mm depending on spec... correct me if I'm wrong.
@davidkendall1614 Жыл бұрын
I think you nailed it! I rode the V4S for a week in Spain and own an R1250GS. I would score it the same way you did. I was almost afraid I would love the V4S so much that I would want it over my GS, especially since I have been a Ducati fan for a long time (but there is no Ducati dealer where I live). I was underwhelmed with the V4S. I actually preferred the DesertX we had in the group. The V4 lacked the soundtrack that I expected. I expected it to be very smooth, but it was vibey at highway speed. The quick shifter had failed somewhere prior to 10,000 km being on the new bike. And it was HOT on your junk at slow speeds and brutal in the city. On the upside, awesome top end and I enjoyed it in the twisties. But overall, I preferred the GS (which was a relief to be honest), even when compared back to back (we had 7 bikes from Love for Ride…MS V4S, Desert X, R1250GS, Africa Twin, Tiger 1200, Tiger 900, Versys 1000). I think too many street riders look at HP too much when they really should give more attention to torque. Doubley so for an adventure biker who goes off-road. The GS has a better power band for the real world. These are not race bikes. A GS has the HP of a race bike from not too long ago and torque to make you drool. The new 1300 seems to elevate it even more. The boxer sound sucks at sedate pace, but I find when you wring it’s neck it is not too bad!
@chrisvantassel88677 ай бұрын
You must have had an issue....vibey at highway speed could not be more opposite of my Multi. In fact that GT engine is so smooth it lulls me to sleep. My GS has terrible shifting and a terrible quick shifter. I think it is safe to say both are great bikes but it depends on your needs/wants. Pure performance there is NO comparison. Where the GS wins in my book is shaft drive. I would probably have more confidence on my GS vs PP but that really comes down to the shaft drive vs chain and not necessarily the bikes themselves. I will test a 1300 soon and I may have a different opinion but I just don't see it hitting the mark like the Pikes Peak.
@davidkendall16147 ай бұрын
@@chrisvantassel8867 Hard to say…the V4S was a rental. But it only had 10 or 11,000km on it when I rode it. At that point the QS had already packed it in. I’ll find out in 10 weeks when back to Europe to test 8 new bikes over two weeks…including a new Multistrada V4S, a new R1300GS, and six other bikes, as well as visits to Ducati and Ferrari factories and museums.
@chrisvantassel88677 ай бұрын
@@davidkendall1614 best of luck if u get a chance to ride a Pikes Peak I think you will dig it!
@laddiegill Жыл бұрын
Great summery but you missed one most critical element, which is a major consideration for long distance riders. That is the Shaft drive vs the Chain drive. 😀. (BMW also has Brembo brakes, Brembo label is on the inside though)
@brunoseat11 ай бұрын
I think you were a little biased! 😎 In order: Suspension, I prefer the Ducati’s skyhook. In my opinion with the telever you miss some sensibility when you brake hard and some efficiency when you brake in really bad roads. Brakes: give a draw when facing the best braking manufacturer of the world?! Sorry but no… Wheels: why give a victory to any one?! It’s a clear draw. Technology: noooo… as an example, Ducati is the only one that can personalize each one of their modes (suspension, engine… ) while GS only have that option in their’s “pro” modes. At the end, I think it must be a victory for Ducat considering what I mention before. More… is expensive, but it has larger kms between services and more warranty years (not sure). However, 2 really great bikes
@robertcorbett4720 Жыл бұрын
So Bob, important to me when looking at bikes like this for touring is: final drive….it’s a shaft every time….I just don’t want the faff of having to lube a chain each day and worry about if it needs adjusting and cleaning mid tour. Secondly I’m not sure what breakdown cover Ducati offer but BMW is gold plated pan European with repatriation included if required……makes me feel very secure 😊
@myousic456429 күн бұрын
Chains aren't like they used to be neither the bikes. I did 6000km trip lubing the chain 3 times (after riding in the rain). 0 needs of adjustment even when the bike took a beating in the moutain twisties. The chain looks brand new just like I get of the dealership.
@atifmahmood2414 ай бұрын
Seat Height you're wrong. I'm 5 foot 5 inches with an inseam of 29 inches. Ducati dealers in the toronto area wouldn't even respond to my asks. I'm comfortable with 30.5 inch seat height. And I'm a torque junky I have a R18 big boxer cruiser and a F850GS factory lowered with low seat. BMW Toronto got me on a GS 1300 with electronic height adjustment with a low seat option. None of the ducati dealers were able to do anything similar. So I have ordered a R1300GS Trophy because for short people BMW is THE ONLY manufacturer that has invested in enabling adventure touring for short folks and women.
@myousic456429 күн бұрын
Wait what? Maybe in the USA. You can easily get lowered suspension and low seat here in europe. You can get 31,3 inches with lowered seat and lowered suspension and the facelift model can get you 30,1 inch with lowering on stop.
@TacticalHamsterDance Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comparison! I haven't ridden the SAS and GS 1300 yet (although both are still available, unlike Multistrada, as the Ducati dealer probably started selling their fleet very early), however I liked the Multistrada a lot. I haven't tested it around my town yet, only in Spain (with Love for Ride like another commenter here) but it feels like the only bike that is well tuned for both sporty and leisure reading. The former - duh, it is Ducati, the suspension can be appropriate, the engine likes high RPM; however even in slow riding it is comfortable enough, the engine is smooth and has enough power (sure, the power in low RPMs is lower than BMW or KTM but it's a big engine, it doesn't matter than much), basically it has everything. What surprised me is that even if the engine was boiling, even in 35 degree heat I was cool. (Sure, BMW or Triumph have good ventilation too, although Triumph cannot take tall riders because of that, but compared to say Africa Twin lack of heat was noticeable.) The only minus was the engine in low RPMs sounded like a shy vacuum cleaner but then again BMW's sound is nothing to write home about either. We will see how BMW did with their new model, it seems that despite late season the dealer has them in testing fleet and hopefully I'll be able to test.
@davea7250 Жыл бұрын
Ive had a lot of bikes in my 50 yrs of riding i test road the Ducati and it gets hot around your legs i love ducati had a couple but the grunt and the comfort of the gs for quick riding is great on my 1250. depends on where you live and what roads you ride frequently . i have other bikes for more off road stuff. Look if you bought one or the other you will be a Happy Chappy there both Amazing Bikes !!! im 62 and 73 kg , love your channel thank you from AUS.
@thevtadventure1062 Жыл бұрын
Think I’m pulling the trigger on the HD PanAm. Cheaper than both of these and I’m in the US and dealers everywhere. But I would love a 975 PanAm
@amandiodeazevedoevangelist4147 Жыл бұрын
Fuel economy: no reference to Rally Multi version… 2 cilinders off… 4l/100km… 1st bike in the World with this tech… Besides brakes, how BM wins the tech point? Huuummm…
@georgitcolov8370 Жыл бұрын
Why don't they reflect the truth V4 Rally, unattainable for GS
@rustincrawford3587 Жыл бұрын
BMW brakes were branded Brembos at the U.S. reveal, but this was an EU spec bike. Not sure they’d change that for the U.S.
@vstm3950 Жыл бұрын
Used to have RT and found it comfy, quiet and relaxing. Nimble enough and fast. Bought GS after and never became friends with it. Good bike nonetheless but who really needs it (for the purpose)
@ginoasci11 ай бұрын
50/50 these two are both top notch adventure bikes.
@Richard.Cabeza Жыл бұрын
3, 4, 6, 7, 11 and 13 are the reasons I would buy this bike. Sound and styling play little in my purchase.
@Nox-06 Жыл бұрын
Tks for the video. In fact, the verdict should depends on what you do (which types of roads) I have a GSA and I just tried the Multi V4S. I love both for different reasons Based on the fact that I ride 99% in the mountains with hairpins (almost 8-10k kms per year loaded with 140 liters of luggage), the torque is the most important. One topic you could have added in the comparison is the luggage ... both are bad, small and expensive ... better to go to SW-Motech or similar but we have no clue for the GS because nothing is existing now (even if I am sure the GS will have everything available in some months). That's why it's important to go to the EICMA this year i would say that the power of the muti gives more fun and is much better for day or WE trips while the current GS is better for weeks trips I will try the new GS in 2 weeks, make my choice and order one or the other The comparison on paper is important but the live test will be key to decide (position, handling, ...) Today, I am not sure ... let's see
@jcollins2826 Жыл бұрын
I rode a 2021 BMW GS Adventure. I love the bike, but the MS V4 looks to be an incredible bike. I assumed it would win this comparison hands down. I don’t disagree with any of the assessment categories except the maintenance intervals suggested in a comment. I’m surprised to see that it wasn’t even close.
@mrkang4080 Жыл бұрын
Am I the only guy that only cares about a single category? Styling. These bikes are amazing all around, pick the one that tickles your fancy the most and start riding.
@ahmedalmussabi35 Жыл бұрын
You compared between the full options GS with the normal maltistrada v4 , I have maltistrada v4 rally edition and I see it's better in terms of suspension tech options and breaking desks than the new GS
@Kurlach Жыл бұрын
Christ this is what we’ve come to, reviewing a bike that isn’t out against a bike most of us could never afford based on specs. Give me strength
Жыл бұрын
well... GS is one of the best sellers in a lot of markets... so even if it is not "affordable"... it seems to be affordable to plenty of people.
@MotoRiderTube Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a very good assessment of the bikes, and while I wouldn't say no to either of these, I'm happier with my Tiger 900 - more nimble, looks better and cheaper (but very well equipped). I will say the GS made quite a leap forward, but I'd struggle to live with that minger of a headlight.
@nicolasdelabassetiere8829 Жыл бұрын
You should check the latest MCN test between the big four adv bikes. Regarding the suspension, you'll realise that the Ducati is actually much better on and off road overall, regardless of these individual comparisons. Yes, it is compared to the 1250, but from hearing about other reviews, they are worlds apart in driving pleasures. Of course this is very subjective at the end of the day and I simply wouldn't buy a huge adv to begin with. It's just not practical and I'd for sure go for a Desert X for adv style bikes. Not only a Ducati fan here, as I'm soon getting a Triumph T120 Black, following the Ducati Scrambler 800 Nightshift I currently have. Safe rides everyone!
@chrishart8548 Жыл бұрын
I think the base model r1300gs with the cast wheels and low height will make a great road bike with an upright riding position. I don't really see it as a ADV at all. Isn't the seat height under 800mm now in the right configuration.
@nicolasdelabassetiere8829 Жыл бұрын
@@chrishart8548 Interesting point of view, but they still seem to sell it as an ADV when you look at their advertisement and category they put it in. Your pointers prove just how strange the overall outcome is. Either way, not for me! haha
@RichDunn Жыл бұрын
Good video. I don't agree on the seat height point going to Ducati though, for two key reasons: the GS can achieve the lowest seat height (800 mm) and overseat measurement, and critically it can 'auto' lower to minimum preload based on speed, the Ducati (and Triumph) cannot. It also lowers at the front and not just thee rear like its peers. I speak as a 6' 2" Multistrada owner.
@myousic456429 күн бұрын
795mm for multistrada :) 840mm stock -15mm with lowered suspension and -30mm with lowered seat. Multis have also minimum preload setting now (after software update). Facelift even has special thing that can lower bike 30mm for you under 10kmph.
@MarcPilon Жыл бұрын
For real adventure : GS / for real Life : V4S. Most people dream adventures but ride their motorcycle to work , around town, weekend travels, and 2 week for holidays.
@P6_7R_Nick Жыл бұрын
Struggling to consider this information considering very few have ridden the gs1300 yet. It would be nice to hear /see some feedback from actual experience once it's been released to the press. Just saying like.
@HowardR-cu9ub Жыл бұрын
I rode the V4s in the summer and it roasted my family jewels. I also found it quite vibey. Handled well, I wanted to love it but just didn’t 😢. I would never have considered a GS before but the new 1300 styling looks fantastic imho. Fingers crossed it rides as good as it looks
@davidkendall1614 Жыл бұрын
Same here! If you don’t like roasted nuts, hope you don’t get caught in a city. At highway speeds way more vibration and less comfort than a GS. Also, although our test bike was new, the quick shifter had packed it in on the V4S at less than 10,000 km. Also on the downside, I expected to be seduced by the V4 soundtrack, but was sadly disappointed. I actually preferred the V2 of the DesertX. On the upside, the top end was awesome and loved it in the twisties. But then again, I love the GS in the twisties too.
@ccgg39133 ай бұрын
Two great bikes, love the Ducati engine. The winning factors for me for the BMW: no chain maintenance, much less fuel consumption
@raulsalanaranjo6565 Жыл бұрын
I would get the bmw especially considering it’s the value proposition of the two. However, the good looking Ducati is the Desert X, not the MultiStrada…
@davehemmerly8496 Жыл бұрын
Brakes go to the Ducati. Brembo stylemas are better, they just are. Had them on my Triumph GT Explorer and they are far better than the standard Brembo on my GSA
@os6219 Жыл бұрын
BMW brakes are actually Brembos and are even batched Brembo between the calipers . Furthermore it’s mentioned in the video
@davehemmerly8496 Жыл бұрын
@@os6219 There is a big difference between Stylema Brembo and the standard. I have had both and know the difference.
@simons.29487 ай бұрын
Just bought a gs1300, had a gs1200 but to sloppy with no sports feel so got rid. New gs13 with extra power and sharper handling made it a re-purchase for me. Never fancied a Duke but not sure why
@skyworks1621 Жыл бұрын
I did drive the V4 and 1250. I liked V4 more. But with new 1300 I would test them again to decide.
@MoiPloy8 ай бұрын
the g1300 also comes with Brembo brakes it is just written inside the calipers
@FilipeRibeiro1982 Жыл бұрын
The BMW has Brembo also... They branded BMW on the outer calipper covers, but the Brembo logo is is present on the inside cover of the calippers.
@hammadhussain4554 Жыл бұрын
Please compare GS adventure with V4 Rally
@KS-hw9zr Жыл бұрын
My pick is to stick with my 1250 GSA the new GS is hideous.
@jhonnydumeny981611 ай бұрын
Ducati Multistra Rally all day!
@dagsand4367 Жыл бұрын
Hi. Love your youtube channel. You forgot to put the GS driveshaft on the scale. A huge advantage.
@mechcavandy986 Жыл бұрын
They break even on the suspension. That’s saying something for the Ducati. I’ve owned several GSAs. I’ve never owned a Ducati. But I may have one in the future.
@sphyrnidus Жыл бұрын
I think a better comparison would be Multistrada vs S1000XR. Both roadbikes with a 4 cilinder engine.
@clyntonmoorcroft6413 Жыл бұрын
The 1300 GS nonlonger has Haze brakes, they are Brembo brakes with BMW Branding. Ifnyou look on the aide of the calipers youll see the brembo branding.
@KortVetmannetjie Жыл бұрын
🤘🤘 hoping for a R1300RS just to have 50cc more than my wife 😂
@chrishart8548 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure it will come. Should loose some weight too. The rs is a bit on the heavy side vs the competition. Should bring it much closer to a sports bike with loads of extra torque.
@NULUSIOS Жыл бұрын
I FAR prefer boxer sound (when coming from a proper exhaust). I have actually been praised about it by a Ducati rider in a traffic light. (then again my old 1200GS has a full exhaust replacement - pipes etc. - and is a bit like hell is coming)
@anshsharma7396 Жыл бұрын
Please make a video on v4r vs m1000rr it will a great favour
@hafiizh79 Жыл бұрын
The new GS design is growing on me, but my pocket is not 😢
@kugangles9860 Жыл бұрын
Join the club. There isn't many that are these days.
@austinman123456711 ай бұрын
You are not comparing the correct Multistrada. The Ducati Multistrada V4 Rally is the direct competitor to the 1300GS. The Rally has a 30 liter tank, and shuts down 2 cylinders for improved fuel economy. Even my rough calculations equate to around 428km (265 miles) range. It has been reported elsewhere that the range is between 280 and 330 miles, which is probably optimistic. Ignoring fuel consumption, that gives the Ducati similar, or longer, range to the 1300GS. There are additional features on the Rally that give it better touring and offroad ability. I just realized, you reviewed the Rally a month ago. Yeah, this is far from a good comparison. As a long time owner of BMW motorcycles, the Multistrada is on my current short list of bikes to buy. Ready for something that is a bit more exciting, even if It is chain drive.
@dcasandman Жыл бұрын
I’d like to see dyno charts overlayed off same dyno. I lean on side of V4 cause it’s beautiful, but I bet GS power is way more useable on the street or daily.
@jerrylenhart5717 Жыл бұрын
Chain drive vs shaft drive expense and durability would be a nice comparison to do.
@themystx26 ай бұрын
Offset by the fact the BMW requires 2 valve checks in the same mileage Ducati requires one. I think a chain and sprocket set is cheaper than two valve checks.
@georgitcolov8370 Жыл бұрын
Why don't you say anything about Ducati Multistrada V4 Rally, why no comparison with it
@defaultuser3410 Жыл бұрын
Too close to call...you gotta ride them, and pick the one that makes your heart beat faster.
@colinbarber9324 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had Ducati and BMW, The best bike is ……..the Honda 750 X. Unlike the Ducati, the electronics are not made of spaghetti, the beemer is over priced but ideal if your a wealthy 6fft plus dentist, while the beemer has got lighter, is it still too much of a behemoth.
@mojosdad68 Жыл бұрын
I’d take that new GS. Love the revised look, very sleek compared to the previous Gen and the other manufacturer’s offerings. Not enough range out of the Ducati either.
@onecookieboy Жыл бұрын
The thing that is difficult to quantify is the ownership experience and I would suggest that the BMW would win in that regard. Motorcyclists are tinkerers and like to do things to their bikes themselves and on that score the BMW would be streets ahead of the Ducati.
@roberttanner4778 Жыл бұрын
Which is better for a passenger on the pillion?
@LiviuXSA Жыл бұрын
what is the point of this video? watered down content comparing spec sheets from other videos? really?
@Magicinstalls8 ай бұрын
Seat height point should've gone to the BMW with their automatic lowering suspension. I rode one and it was awesome. No comparison to the DUCATI
@myousic456429 күн бұрын
Lol ducati also have automatic lowering suspension.
@Magicinstalls29 күн бұрын
@@myousic4564 Lol no they don't! Not till next year nice try...
@HamRidez Жыл бұрын
Tell me you want a 1300GS without telling me you want a 1300GS haha! Actually love the design of the new GS but don't like the previous dad models 1200 and 1250. That said it's the multi v4 for me everytime. Thought can afford neither!!
@12masterr Жыл бұрын
I love my 2018 rallye, but I think the real weigth of a fully loaded 1300 will be really close to the actual model. Al the weight shown is the bery basic bike with no accessories. The only negative I see on the 1300 is the super exposed "reverse peak" (lol), tje rear mounted radar seems to be super exposed, and being all plastic it will be expensive to replace, it looks like a one piece molded plastic.! Also, it looks chinesse made,not german!
@lgrw660factory Жыл бұрын
GS1300 for me. I don’t like the Ducati’s beak and the fuel economy is atrocious.
@madoupeter Жыл бұрын
The new GS looks like the Honda CB500X. No way you can compare its looks with the Multi. The Boxer runs like a tractor versus the smooth V4.
@nazhif1 Жыл бұрын
2 reasons why I’d avoid the GS. - The official motorrad dealer network atrocious here. - GS riders think they’re superior than everyone and the own the highway. Btw the brakes one the GS are brembo. It’s still printed on the inner side of all 3 calipers.
@ricardoanez6436 Жыл бұрын
Yoy shouldn't do a comparison of a 2021 MTS with a 2023 BMW, you should use the Rally V4 even that I owe a V4s like this one, I am not agree with some of your comparisons, suspension and comfort,technology to the GS that a no,no, I have long legs and I keep hitting that boxer engine all the time, and yes the GS has more torke but when you push that throttle on the V4 you don't feel it, also don't make it too obvious yoy are a GS guy 😂😂 Thanks
@Rayk765 ай бұрын
The multistrada v4 RALLY would be my choice
@TheBaron4817 ай бұрын
BMW offers a low frame option for the GS for smaller riders
@Whatreally123 Жыл бұрын
Id never buy any of these big advs, i feel theyre overkill and more statement than practicality. I do like the tech they bring in. Never liked the GS as it looked too boxy for my taste but this new direction looks nice. Slimmer, lighter. Well done bmw.
@Inked_CR Жыл бұрын
I was the same until I rode the 1200GSA, in only 27 but I absolutely love it.
@benkelly2190 Жыл бұрын
Pub bragging rights, only..when are you going to get to 170 bhp on the road! Torque wins, all day. I like both bikes, and they both appeal to different markets. Bikes are like beer/food, very personal. Take your choice and enjoy!
@tomtraynor5384 Жыл бұрын
Use the power? Every ride--with my wife on the back and panniers. Never take ride with bags and wife where we don't casually do "the ton". So I picked the sportiest "Adventure" bike I could find: The Multi Pikes Peak. I'll surely look at the new GS--and the XR1000 M--but is a "screamer" motor the thing on a spot tourer--as I tend to label the 17" bikes?
@jeffp140Ай бұрын
I think a drag race is in order.
@grahamhardy1358 Жыл бұрын
I have a 1250 GSA and for the price tag the new 1300 are starting at it’s a joke. For 49PS extra.
@glsracer Жыл бұрын
Not to put holes in this argument but, isn't the Multistrada V4 in a different price class? A better comparison would probably be the Multistrada V2.
@IanTed Жыл бұрын
Riding a lovely Multi V2S I will test ride both next change. Had three GSs but got sick of the weight and height for those of us with short legs. The new GS seems to have addressed that issue and I like the new look even if it hasn’t got the beauty of a Ducati’s lines…
@valefur729 ай бұрын
The real weight of the new GS is far higher than they write on the data sheet. The weight on the scale, depending on the configuration, is the same or higher than the 1250!!! That said, both are fantastic bikes! Living in the Alps I know what is better for me, so I have a KTM 1290 Super Adventure 😉
@TheTommiart8 ай бұрын
specs for the win
@JesusAlleineRettet Жыл бұрын
4:49 but wait until it’s dark it becomes a hassle put this phone on this quadlock. There is something better and easier. It’s Peak Design. I replaced all my quadlocks with them.
@billkatsaris8603 Жыл бұрын
the ratio is 10:2 over Ducati unless you were treated the usual ..."leverage" from the Fritzes
@bobz1736 Жыл бұрын
It would be good if you added servicing costs and resale values 🤔
@tomtraynor5384 Жыл бұрын
The 36,000 mile service interval on the Multistrada is nice. Unsure what it is on the GS.
@steveschneider3872 Жыл бұрын
Boxers are simple to service. The Multi’s procedures require a deep dive to get at the valves. I own both and love them both for different reasons.
@johnhansson86463 ай бұрын
@@tomtraynor5384 10000 km. That’s one of the annoyances with the GS - whenever you plan a longer trip, there is always the servicing to consider. But 36000 mi on the Multistrada is for big service with valve check, not the regular sevice, which is at 15000 km. But Bmw’s valve check is every 20000 km…
@seanwilliams20697 ай бұрын
Amazes me to test a v4 vs a flat 2…..why not the V2s duke vs the flat 2 bmw?
@glsracer Жыл бұрын
IMO, the GS looks way better at this point. The Multistrada looked great when it came out but I think it could do with a refresh. I have a BMW R1150RT and a Honda CBR so maybe I'm a different target buyer but I always thought the GS looked a bit ugly. This new one could pull me over from the RT and K series bikes over to the GS for my next bike. This should attract current GS owners (cause where are they going to go?) while bringing in riders who would never have considered a BWM or a GS in the past.
@Alex_mkII Жыл бұрын
I'm sure both bikes are more than capable of taking their rotund, mid-40's charges on their arduous 40-mile return trip to the local gastro pub each Sunday..... 😂
@markshirley76395 ай бұрын
Bought the 1300, really would have liked the Ducati but fuel consumption put me off !
@michaeldobson88597 ай бұрын
A lot of opinion for a guy who didn’t actually do a comparison test between the bikes. Moto B just reads the specs to make his analysis. Those Haynes calipers have already been recalled last year so how can that be a tie? When compared to the world’s best calipers on the Ducati?
@ricardodiniz6313 ай бұрын
Is this guy in the pay roll of BMW Motorrad?
@ricardogasparino Жыл бұрын
Gs”.s breakers make a noise of old bike. Both: BMW and Brembo calipers.
@MannoMotorcycleAdventure Жыл бұрын
V4 S Rally 😁🏍🤙
@georgitcolov8370 Жыл бұрын
The great bike V4 Rally
@micheltremblay2544 Жыл бұрын
100% agree :)
@Getting-On Жыл бұрын
Great review, but as a 5x GS/GSA owner im not sold on the new GS hopefully the new GSA will be out in 2024. Im thinking of changing from BMW to Ducati as i think the Multistrada is beautiful, and away nicer looking than the GS, but with beauty comes issues and Ducati like Alfa Romeo have a longer list of issues that specs.
@magicworld8208 Жыл бұрын
The brakes for the new GS is actually Brembo
@VelkePivo Жыл бұрын
I’m not a big fan of the beemer but I think it sounds better.
@tomtraynor5384 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. That bleating noise the GS makes is an obstacle--for ME.
@SKgeostrat9 ай бұрын
The comparison should be with the Tiger, not the Ducati.
@mmoczynski71 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison, exactly on the point with two bikes I am interested in. I was trying multi but somehow seeing the 1300 in flesh…. I will go to EICMA for the final call but the offer for GS is already on my desk… Bella Italia… but this time GS tick most of the boxes 🏍
@glitchfyre5188 Жыл бұрын
Another negative point to multistrada V4 for not having a shaft drive.
@gohabs16687 ай бұрын
No opinion on the Ducati having a chain and the BMW a drive shaft? why still a chain, I love the Ducati, but a chain??
@gerardmontgomery280 Жыл бұрын
This boils down to one thing. The Ducati may feel more special but you ain't riding it of road. Although to be honest I'd have the Tiger 1200 over either of them.
@ScragNath11 ай бұрын
Without having to get off the bike, take off my gloves and unlock my phone to do the conversion, how many MPG ffs?
@chewie8 Жыл бұрын
I just don't like the new look of the GS, when something works don't change, just refine it.
@stuarthull5706 Жыл бұрын
To me this a pointless comparison as the Ducati is different bike and would you really take a bike that expensive off road or have confidence in its reliability? It’s also ridiculous power output which is useless in almost every circumstance except a track 😂 A better comparison would have been the pan America which is 150bhp and was the first to have ARH or the Tiger 1200. All in these bikes are all way too expensive now and the smaller 890/900 GS or Tiger 900 etc are actually better bikes
@tomtraynor5384 Жыл бұрын
Well--I make $300/hr--so lucky me: Pikes Peak. With two more Ducati's in the garage.
@NULUSIOS Жыл бұрын
The GS is also Brembo brakes. It says so on the inside of the system (ie. see from the right the inside of the left and the opposite). Outside they agreed to say BMW. And of course it has smaller disks because it can afford to. It is lighter and the telelever doesn't put that much pressure to the front as the conventional. For the same reason the suspension tubes can afford to be thinner.
@christosphillips3568 Жыл бұрын
Nothing comes close to the GS, , a bike is not just specs, Ducati would be nice to rent for a weekend"s fun, but the GS , its the best to live with everyday.....better to get married to!