New BRUSHED Power for the Bandit! HOLMES!!

I had to try some different motors and these are both by Holmes Hobbies, links are below for both motors, check them out.
The motors I used
12t Trailmaster Sport
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15t Retro Sport
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The parts I installed
Proline Slingshot
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Front VXL Bearing steering blocks
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5x11x4 Bearings
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Traxxas Bandit XL5
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[@old-rcplane-phart]

Back in MY 'stock 2wd' professional race days, even a stock 27t 24 degree bushinged motor, the best motors' bushings we wore out, so lesser/no friction. 😁

[@meirdeaph]

The sand looks so cool in videos flying out from cars ripping round the track. An then with the paddle tires amazing!

[@qrisemrc]

It was also a useful and interesting video.😁😁😁

[@jameswisecarver]

Having one of these myself go back to the holmes 12t with stock gearing and put on 3s

[@NCMOUNTAINSbackyardRC]

I’m just looking forward to seeing more fun stuff. For fun you should try a Brushed motor with timing I really enjoyed it 👍

[@Bigfurry1975]

I just checked one of my 12-turn Titans. These motors have 15 degrees of counter-clockwise timing. The reason I use higher turn motors is so I can gear higher without as much wear on the motor.

[@ExocagedRC]

yeah the timing makes a difference, this holmes has 0 for crawlers so its kinda out of place in the bandit

[@80Tamiya]

I run quite a few 2wd Tamiya buggies and trucks on 2S all with high RPM tuned motors. EVERYTHING gets hot within about 5 mins run time. Just part of the game running brushed. Only setup I can run all day is the Grasshopper with a 540 silver can 😁

[@endosrc]

Try the arrma brushed motors. They work great in my stampede

[@JagImaging]

Would be cool to see a VXL Bandit with paddles running 3s on the track lol

[@ExocagedRC]

wheelies for ever

[@karlfortuin5794]

Mine is 3s on the vinelion vxl system on the ho vo lipo let me clue ya this thing rips ass you'll enjoy it 🤘

[@Stepside906]

I remember pre brushless systems I had two 9 turns in my emax with a novac esc. That thing ripped pretty good. I wish I still had it

[@PhilBender612]

I think your gonna struggle a lot trying to race any kind of spec class until you replace the beach sand with actual clay dirt. Thats alot of excess weight your poor little bandit was transporting, lol. Bashing looks fine but that sand has to get into everything and eat up bearings, motors, gears, ect.

[@88outlaw35]

Believe it or not that send yes dies get everywhere but It doesn't eat the gears bearings maybe I can't really tell you there

[@ExocagedRC]

Clay is super expensive here, I'd like to have it though

[@jameswisecarver]

@@ExocagedRC 180 a load here

[@ChiefRickyRC]

@@ExocagedRC I like it how it is. People gotta remember it was worse all dusty. Clay is boring

[@gainsrc]

You should check out the new brushed motors from Hobbywing.

[@307_Scoot]

that part is a traxxas gear ratio mesh spacer. they have like 10 different versions for different gear ratio-pinion sizes

[@ChiefRickyRC]

Go bandit go! Sweet demo

[@danielbargas3377]

I would limit it to factory brushless systems and hobbywing max10 combo on 2s

[@ExocagedRC]

nah any brushed is fine no brushless for these

[@seedofjacob2236]

8 Turn crawl master in my banded, it rips you might want to try that one.

[@ExocagedRC]

Faster than the 12t 3-slot?

[@seedofjacob2236]

@@ExocagedRC you are going to be able to fry a piece of bacon on the motor but yes, I believe it’s faster

[@seedofjacob2236]

Or the XL5ESC paired with the Arma magnum 12 turn is pretty fast I know that for a fact I ran that in my two wheel slash for some time and it was fast.

[@karlfortuin5794]

I have the vinelion vxl motor & yes my bandit rips like hell but I wanna replace it with the castle or spektrum mamba

[@karlfortuin5794]

The lipo I'm running my bandit on is the hoo vo 3s

[@darrennixon1986]

Just go brushless and fix the motor limit to 21.5 or 17.5 so it's equal for everyone. It'll surely be alot more fun and less hassle

[@ExocagedRC]

brushed is cheaper

[@darrennixon1986]

@@ExocagedRC yes of course but a budget friendly brushless system isn't going to break the bank compared to burning out brushed motors racing around the track

[@twilliamrc4wd]

I do run a custom motor it is a 8 turn triple brush motor on the castle Mama Max ESC on 3s on a 32 pitch 62 tooth and a 19 tooth pinion

[@michaelglass8546]

Would be interesting to see what could be done with a budget brushed power plant in a dedicated race buddy

[@andrewrasch6000]

If possible I’d like to see the infraction mega 9t 570 can. My guess it would throw off the balance of the car

[@ianbarber4542]

Yeah, I haven't given up on brushed.

[@ExocagedRC]

I will stay brushed here.

[@carlreeves9762]

Why not try the craw master 8 turn

[@ChiefRickyRC]

Try gears and a 590! Lol maybe a 8 turn 550, or the lowest turn you can get? Idk be cool to see

[@marilynweber5598]

speaker was not on it was making an echoing in the back round during that last video. can you fix that ?

[@LETSGOPLAYRC]

The Titan 12T is a good motor. Youd be amazed at the difference a race prepped tranny would make , youd definitely hit the teens , the factory grease in there is like glue and adds soooo much resistance. Great video thank you , Ive always wanted to compare a 12T 550 to a 15T 540 .

[@thomasdowneyjr.4162]

you should change the slpper clutch shaft they break on those trans to the 272R shaft i have the vxl with rpm arms and proline trans my second one i ever owned

[@ExocagedRC]

Is there enough power to break that on this?

[@thomasdowneyjr.4162]

@@ExocagedRC im not sure if a brushed motor would break it....

[@PhilBender612]

the pin snaps, not the actual shaft. He's only running on 2s for a spec class, dont think he will have an issue.

[@cwthemachinist]

Man if you want a hot brushed motor, get the Surpass "power" series 12t 550. I know it's a cheapo Chinese job, but they all are, even the Holmes(The brushed cheap ones). It's full bearing, rebuildable, and adjustable timing. I've got three of them. One in a Tamiya Fire Dragon and it will do 45mph on 2s using a 1060 HW esc. They're fast man, I'm telling you. They've got really strong magnets and scream! Just make sure you order the"Power"series, if you try it. It's worth the 30.00.

[@jackanapes6676]

Any experience with the Injora motors? They have a front bearing as well. Just would like to know if anyone has experience with one before I might purchase.

[@cwthemachinist]

@Jack Anapes no, but they just buy other manufacturers stuff and rebrand it.

[@jackanapes6676]

@@cwthemachinist I see, would you recommend one, or do you believe there are better options? Don't want a rebuildable motor as I am no racer, just looking for a replacement motor for my Redcat Dukono and was looking at the Injora 550 brushed motor.

[@cwthemachinist]

@Jack Anapes I'm not sure about the Injora as far as quality. I don't think they are very good. I can speak about those Surpass 550 "Power" series though. The 12 turn are super fast and powerful for a brushed motor. Even if you don't need to rebuild, it's a super value for money. I would think of it like the really cheap ones burn up and you've gotta throw it out and get another. The Surpass you can replace whatever parts you need if it burns up instead of buying another. But if you're just wanting super inexpensive, then use the Injora.

[@jackanapes6676]

@@cwthemachinist Do you believe the 12 turn might be too fast for the Dukono? Or maybe install low pinion gear to maybe compensate for the motor turns? I know the Dukono has a 19 turn 550, didn't know that a 12 turn might work?

[@tomazztivold]

Hey, try this one: Turnigy XK-3665 3190KV Brushless Inrunner. Its gonna fly 😀

[@ExocagedRC]

gotta stay brushed for this one

[@SwampersRC]

I used to race 2wd buggy, late '80s and early '90s. When your car hits top speed at the end of the longest straight, you've got it about right. Good rule to follow no matter what size the track is. Another thing affected by gearing is run time. Figure out how long a battery will last doing laps with a nimh and a lipo. See what people show up with, maybe run 2 classes if the difference is significant.

[@CasperRc81]

I’ve never had an issue with the stock drive shafts plus there lighter in weight. Maybe help the motor spool up idk.

[@ExocagedRC]

I didn't want a known weakness to happen with the paddles and a bad landing

[@randall4411]

The sand is dragging your RCs down

[@ExocagedRC]

yep for sure, it limits us on gearing due to excessive heat if we go too far

[@ChiefRickyRC]

I just found a badass RS 775 ball bearing on Ali bro

[@MODFARMER]

Do you have any videos of racing on your track? Like competitive racing with buddies? That’d be cool to watch. No matter what class

[@ExocagedRC]

yeah I post videos of us Exoplex racing we have a lot of fun

[@jefflakso]

3S volt up and gear down!

[@ClickClacksRcs]

Think you need a race motor not a crawler motor

[@MsApfelschorle666]

So do you continue to push the bandit or is the project dead? I found it quite interesting to see low level racing equipment used to the max.

[@KalsRcAdventures]

You need a race brushed motor

[@IowaBudgetRCBashers]

Get the 86t spur

[@ExocagedRC]

its got the 83 in it as best I can tell

[@Nlangkirby135]

Have you thought about removing the ring around both motors?

[@Nlangkirby135]

It could increase the rpm at the price of less amount of torque.

[@Nlangkirby135]

If not, you could try Team Brood brushed motors.

[@cozy_Fozy]

Hey Exo, Can we go ahead and run this class on 3s? I don't have any 2s packs for this buggy.. I've been running the XL5-HV on 3s with the Titan 12 turn currently (I also have the Holmes 550 12t to test out). I've considered trying the Arrma 570 9 turn, but it's 30 bucks and I don't know if the esc will handle it.

[@ExocagedRC]

gotta keep this one cheap what plug is on yours? I may have a battery you can use, also I'm not so sure the XL5 can handle a 9t yet.

[@cozy_Fozy]

@@ExocagedRC This one still uses the TRX plug because I run my traxxas 3s packs that are for my TRX4. It's really not that big of a deal, I can pickup a couple 2s packs for this class, I was just happy with the performance of the 3s packs being able to clear the jumps.

[@rc-daily]

I don't think members got the notifications for these videos...

[@rc-daily]

I really expected the 12t to be faster...

[@justincountryman-chronic_r3696]

Would an arrma 9 turn be any faster? Or are arrma brushed motors trash?

[@ExocagedRC]

A 9t would be faster for sure. Not sure on how durable they are.

[@NelaRc]

Drop down to 26 tooth

[@grisslebear]

Stick that shim in a junk drawer. I never use mine anymore.