New Cat Engine set to replace the C15.... The Cat C13D, 690 Horsepower.

[@kylethomson7127]

Cat dealer tech here I actually just had a cat off highway emissions class last week my instructor was very knowledgeable about the new engines and you kind of touched on it but the biggest change I’m excited about is no more egr/nrs system. The science has been improving on the scr and we are able to filter all the nox out without having to reburn exhaust gasses in the combustion chamber. This will however lead to more def consumption but I’m stoked about not having clogged up egr components and being able to make more horsepower with less displacement. That’s why we are going to see this engine replace the larger ones

[@Mikheno]

"no more egr/nrs system". That's good to hear. I understand wanting to cut down on emissions but EGR was the worst idea yet to achieve that.

[@outdoor044]

Where did you take that training?

[@michaelmcclure8673]

Well what in the wide wide wold of Caterpillar mechanics is Josh? Just a cool guy wearing a Caterpillar hat?😊

[@hopingforthebest1.9]

Also not having an EGR cooler would has numerous advantages, improved cooling system durability among other things

[@jaydunbar7538]

@@michaelmcclure8673 he’s a dealer mechanic that hasn’t had a class on the new engine yet, will be great when he does I’m sure we will get a more in depth video when he does.

[@gregorywheeler69]

The other note EGR systems on diesels are the number one killer of longevity

[@monsterpke857]

There is no egr on this motor. It's done differently now

[@dieselstuff2952]

Definitely get euro engine design vibes from this. I'm a Kenworth tech so Paccar MX engines are what we work on alot. In the trucking industry, we've been around the cartridge filters for a while now. The new EPA 2021B Paccar went to the twin filter module and made filter services alot better. I can't wait until everyone else starts getting rid of EGR. I know it's been in the works for north America for a while but I'd love to finally see it done for truck engines.

[@davidsignor7931]

I worked at Kenworth of pa for 25 years if the MX engine doesn't run Paccar out of business nothing will I sure pitty you working on jigsaw puzzles I cringed everytime one came in the shop.

[@andrewdonohue1853]

@@davidsignor7931 i haul milk for a living. class A tanker, farm pickup. im a company driver. the paccar MX13 and autoshifts are both junk. terrible when the 2 are combined together. my employer is slowly phasing out those trucks. especially the autoshifts, they just arent meant for milk hauling. we have a couple of paccar MX13 trucks around that have 18 manuals and i think for the time being he is keeping them until they have more miles. every new truck he has bought in the last 2+ years has had the cummins X15 and a 18 manual. we have 25-30 trucks in the fleet. i drive a 2022 KW T880 X15 565 hp and an 18 manual. i have 80K on it so far and i just love that truck. pulls like an animal, so far it's hasn't been in the shop except for PM work.

[@jaredfenzlein4079]

A lot of common rail engines such as mtu and man use the upside down filter cartridges because they found that mechanics have a tendency to prefill filters with diesel before installing causing the injectors to suck up unfiltered fuel and trashing out the high pressure injectors. That was man’s fix for trashing injectors in their engines. I’ve been seeing a lot of this lately.

[@downrightme6811]

I think it’s a step forward for cats future and I hope it works fantastic 😊

[@TKCarriers]

I prefer my 6nz. Easy to work on, easy to figure out any issue. Thank you for the great information.

[@sebastiangarla8558]

Yep, I'll never get rid of my 6NZ either. Just turned over 2 mil. on December 8th. And it's only had one overhaul at 1,335,000. She purrs perfectly... What we need to do is oust the E.P.A. period....

[@ChrisHarding-lk3jj]

Daf is actually a subsidiary of paccar and has been since 1996. The paccar mx 13 engine is the evolution of the daf 1260 engine. The epa10 mx13 utilized the individual pumping units similar to the daf 1160.

[@boomerang379]

Gonna be tough to build something better than the venerable 3406.

[@rob066101]

My uncle had a 3406b 989 thousand before it threw a ring.

[@elijahrobinson2362]

They did that in 1999. It’s called the c-15 6NZ.

[@anemictoe9618]

@@rob066101 I have a C15 Accert 1.3 million on dash no overhaul yet

[@SparkZ1420]

​@anemictoe9618 the Accerts are great engines when you switch to single turbo and put a decent tune behind it

[@Beaddragon123.]

@@SparkZ1420do the acerts have def?

[@lukedejarnatt4328]

In regards to the name, original c13 was known internally to Cat at c13a, c13b was introduced a few years ago with vgt turbo and a 7th injector to burn off exhaust gas in the turbo, c13c sounded funny so they went with C13D. I was part of the team at mfg plant where this is being produced.

[@JamesParus]

With all the emission stuff it still has straight breather pipe to ground. That is a surprise.

[@electric7487]

It's an off road engine.

[@TheFrigintrees]

Cat parts tech here. Cant wait for these to come out on SIS so i can poke around. thanks for the upload ape!

[@bretyoung1869]

Great video !! I think I'll keep my old C15, this new engine seems too complicated. Very interesting 🤔👍🏽 Thanks Josh !!

[@njfinests]

Until one blows some coal in your face pulling a grade!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Low760]

I prefer an isx to a c15 in my fleet. No oil leaks and easier parts to get.

[@keyboardplayerakas]

Hi Josh, that was my destruction of the week. Its a paccar made engine and is a 13 litre, 530 horsepower

[@redmesa2975]

530 hp ? The highest rating I’ve seen is 510 hp.

[@stevesauerland223]

530 in Euro 6 form, not EPA trim.

[@crocket1971]

@@redmesa2975 In the EU the Daf MX-13 (Paccar MX- 13) max is 530HP, probably the Paccar MX engines has been for the US market

[@crocket1971]

@@redmesa2975 has been adapted for the US market

[@keyboardplayerakas]

@@crocket1971 yes this is a latest generation EU spec engine

[@michaelmcclure8673]

Josh thanks for breaking this engine down for us common folks. I think it's like the big 3 pushing new trucks with smaller eco friendly engines. Need to see how long they last and some of the carnage left over.😮

[@wizard_of_poz4413]

Doesn't make a lot of sense because the reign of the 15l is a much more relatively recent phenomenon with the deregulation of truck sizes and increasing speed limits. Now actually it's more apt to say the 15 is more loved today than ever because the cummins x15 and Detroit dd15 completely hog up the lions share of the heavy duty truck lineup

[@badgerpa9]

DAF had cummins engines in some trucks a while ago now I think it is mostly the PACCAR MX-11 engine. Nice overview on the new Cat engine. Hope it is a good engine. Be safe Sir.

[@keyboardplayerakas]

That was my destruction of the week. Its a MX-13, 13 litre paccar engine

[@alexh.6630]

the paccar px9 and px7 are Cummins motors just with a rebranded valve cover and gray paint. The mx 11 and mx 13 are paccar motors although all of the engines paccar uses in their trucks use a Cummins after treatment system.

[@keyboardplayerakas]

@@alexh.6630 They only use a cummins after treatment system in the USA. Outside od the US its a european after treatment system and its very different

[@hoost3056]

The bigger Paccar engines are DAF based.

[@BrianW._1313]

the very 1st concern that pops into my mind is the strength & durability of the rotating assembly as well as the block considering that much horsepower out of a relatively small(er) displacement engine.

[@wizard_of_poz4413]

Very application specific

[@KALI1080]

Other manufacturers have been doing this higher hp smaller engine thing for quite a while now. FPT builds their 12.9l (also known as the Cursor 13) rotating assemblies like other manufacturers are building their 18l rotating assemblies. I’ve worked on them. It’s quite impressive. No EGR either except they have never used EGR to pass emissions regulations.

[@DeathHead1358]

If memory serves correctly, there were quite a few guys running 700hp+ (not factory though) 12.7L 60 Series back in the day and still today. Although, from what I heard they weren't exactly the most reliable at those elevated power levels.

[@nashdavis4607]

The paccar mx-13 engine makes 500 horsepower at 12.9 liters and I’ve seen 2 engines at a little over a million miles with the main bearing that look like they’re just getting broken in very good engines

[@elroyelblander6277]

@@DeathHead1358 I think I heard the same thing...

[@michaelsorrentino9279]

Truly enjoy the explanation Josh always gives !!

[@AdeptApe]

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[@Odin33356]

I'm surprised the government allows you to live considering we have a war on Intelligence not violence.

[@RustyorBroken]

I think it's April.

[@relaxationstation7374]

Let's hope that the bolts don't break off of the turbos like they did on those twin turbo units they had in the early 2000s!

[@wormwoodfive398]

Another awesome video; however, today I replaced my chainsaws pull cord! Thanks for info and I'll be keeping my 3406

[@statefarm9998]

My favorite part is that black tube going from the valve cover to open atmosphere 😍

[@timleiser16]

Thank you for bringing us up-to-date on the new c13 d glad cat is still making motors

[@JacksonGuitarsPlayer03]

I believe since early or mid 70s actually CAT has been producing the 3400 motors. Ohhhh they are great! Love a dirty old A block CAT, B block, V8 CAT, V12 Legends Rare

[@bigbellyrebuilds2778]

I for one like the idea of Cat motor for highway use been running them for over 30 years was bummed when they left the highway market.

[@Simplycomplicates]

That actually is a DAF (PACCAR). You can tell by the iron graphite block. I can tell by the plugs on the wire harness. Worked on a ton of those.

[@blauer2551]

That’s sad to hear

[@bballer182ify]

Yep. That destroyed engine is for sure a DAF/PACCAR engine. Their lineup looks like this.. MX-13 MX-11 PX-9 PX-7 this would be the destroyed engine. 👍🏻

[@scubasteve7946]

Paccar engines don't use hydraulic lifters though, at least the MX-13. But yeah, very curious.

[@wizard_of_poz4413]

@@blauer2551 that's cat for you

[@norWISequipment]

No, no it’s not. It’s 100% cat. It’s been in development for a few years now.

[@markowens5446]

looks cool, Cat not having VGT is what took Cat out of the truck market in the first place.

[@Romuls753]

I can tell you right away that this engine is going to have air distribution problems with the single external intake port being at the front of the head, and so the farther back cylinders are going to run hotter, and in the future after they have coolant temp issues in the back, probably leading to cooked liner seals and oil/coolant contamination, they'll have an updated cylinder head with another water port for the rear cylinders like the 3406B. They'd be much better off with the single external intake port being two without a divider to allow for pressure balancing, one for the front three and one for the rear three. Idk how I get this sense but I do have it

[@Romuls753]

VGT turbos are garbage for exactly the reasons you say dude, they should have gone with a twin scroll turbo like Detroit

[@Romuls753]

I think what Cat means by "oil-lubricated fuel transfer pump" is basically a gear driven lift pump, which raises the question of if its gonna be a lift pump why not make it an electric pump, but that's just me and these damned enginerds are the ones who make the big bucks

[@SamMaass-s5h]

That makes sense to me.

[@holmes1956O]

Back in the day the 1693 had rear timing chest. The 3406 they moved the timing chest to the front for easier serviceability. So going backwards in that area. The cartridge style filters again cat used to have cleanable cartridge fuel filters so kinda going backwards there too. I would think in a truck configuration the scr and dpf will move to somewhere below the frame and not on top of the engine. I think this for 2 reasons. Clearance aka space constraints and heat. You really dont want all that heat under your hood

[@Firemann487]

Paccar suggests 60k miles (1,000 hrs) oil change interval in on road line haul operations. Crazy long interval in my opinion

[@ScottWarder]

I've done up to 40k intervals in my Paccar mx13 Epa10 and had great oil samples... I won't go over that though because after 35-40k the oil just seems like sludge...

[@daltonbough3302]

If it can make 690hp reliably then it'll be great but that seems a lot to ask out of a 13 liter

[@scubasteve7946]

Probably for marine application. They're always rated for more since the marine won't have the same 100% torque hookup like a ground drive application.

[@psd28]

A 7.3 liter can make 500 reliably

[@Jmeinema1]

​@Bricky Boii not at 2000lb ft of torque it Can't

[@jaydunbar7538]

690 is nothing for a modern 13, it’s nothing for a old one with a few modern upgrades

[@nathanpaterson8506]

Fpt have been doing it for 10 years at least in the 600 steiger tractors, 12.9 litre

[@JohnDeereA219]

Speaking towards the longevity of MEUI injectors, My dad had a 5DS motor that had over 1.4 million miles on it before he replaced the injectors, and the only reason he replaced them was due to doing an in frame when it finally decided to drop a valve.

[@SamMaass-s5h]

My 5DS dropped a valve at 1,662,000 miles. I went with a head from Diesel Cast Welding and went with new injectors and cups.

[@davidwells9342]

I am really looking forward to to following the progress of that engine

[@YoUnOkNoWoK]

Wow!! This is going to change the trucking world for the better! 😁

[@markpontes4457]

Unfortunately they didn't say it was going to be an on road use engine!

[@lukedejarnatt4328]

This is only going to be used for industrial, marine, and off-road usage.

[@cbmech2563]

Common rail by Cummins......they were proud of the fact that "It's the most complicated fuel system ever designed".

[@Nudnik1]

Heui POS motors were..

[@Redsfanatic32]

It’s one of the most simple in my opinion. The most complicated part about it is the computer. Many common rail pumps don’t even need to be timed.

[@bobsmith2637]

HEUI: hold my beer!

[@ianm432]

One good thing about the cartridge filters is that they are easy to inspect... But that's it

[@realliferepair9285]

In my experience with vgt is they are often mis diagnosed as the actuator being the problem when it's the turbo itself .as you said it's a carbon environment and the veins stick and won't move.

[@NBSV1]

Yep. Any time we have an actuator failure we make sure to really check the turbo. It should do it's full sweep without sticking or binding. Often the turbo vanes start getting stuck which overloads the actuator or makes it not able to hit the stops.

[@keithammleter3824]

Interesting. If you want 1000 hour service intervals, it isn't just a matter of more fuel filtering. You need more oil (bigger oil pan, or an external tank) and more oil filter capacity. In 3406 and C15 (which come with a single oil filter standard), with the use of some simple Cat parts meant for marine engines, you can have 2 or 3 oil filters working in parallel - each filter having half or one third the oil passing through it. How can you do that on this new engine? Looks like it will need major modifications. Looks like Cat reducing its market again, after giving up heavy haul trucks. Plenty of marine users of the 3406 needed the easy bolt-on arrangement of two oil filters with a lever to route the oil through one filter or the other - this lets you change the oil filters without shutting down the engine.

[@Low760]

Given volvo use three oil filters for all Thier straight sixes, but still 600hour service intervals.

[@dylanharris1601]

Always appreciate the new content! 🎉

[@markm0000]

I would be genuinely impressed if modern day CAT engineers can even come up with such a spaceship of an engine. They’re just riding off the success of ye-olden engines.

[@leonblittle226]

Well don't fix it when it's not broken I guess

[@markm0000]

@Leon B Little The engine is for April fools.

[@holmes1956O]

This is why smart owners are keeping and rebuilding older trucks rather than buy new junk

[@thomaskirk9341]

Will be interesting to see if they can actually get a reliable, compliant 690HP and 2360ft/lbs out of this engine in real world use. For marine use, maybe so, but if it finds its way into highway tractors that will be the real test. Those are some serious numbers mostly reserved for big displacement engines,15 and 16+ liter Cummins, Detroit and even Scania V8s, it will be pretty impressive if they can actually get those numbers out of a 13 liter.

[@michaellee5399]

I would think with today’s technology it should be able to be easily achievable

[@elloko8303]

It's the technology brother paccar mx13 are mean bitches old 12.7 detroit u got right injector manifold and so on u get go with 600 hp all day

[@sstevocamaro]

The way that DPF is set up I’m guessing it’s a marine engine or for off road equipment.

[@brnmcc01]

People have been getting over 700 hp from an old school Detroit Diesel 8V92TTA for years, and that's decades old technology. And that's only a 12 liter engine.

[@jonathonbridges9625]

Compliancy is no longer a problem because the EPA got their cock slapped in court. No more EPA bullshit.

[@tomekjablonski7789]

Seems like MX13 but painted differently:)

[@MrYahoo74]

I thought the same thing , air compressor probably mounts on the rear and a real pain to change

[@blackericdenice]

I drive a 2021 Volvo VNL760 with 211k miles on the 12.8 engine. It make 450 hp and 1,750 lbs.-ft torque from 1000 rpm to 1,500 rpm. It pull harder from a light than the 2016 Freightliner DD15. It burn slightly more fuel pulling but on level ground. It get better mpg.

[@johnkeys5999]

Congratulations, you just designed a 400,000 mile engine to replace a million mile engine. Parts and service thank you.

[@gregorywheeler69]

One thing I did not see was an EGR system that would be the extended oil change interval as well

[@mattleonard5268]

I’m partial to the c15 and I hope cat will continue to make it in the future

[@siskiyouwoodsman4279]

As an old retired Cat mechanic geezer, I’ll have to correct you. Back between 1955 & 1960, cat used hydraulic lifters on some of their D337 engines used in the Dw20 and 21’s. Ask me how I know. Did enjoy your video just the same.

[@davidoulton5623]

When i changed my transfer pump in my 2005 bxs c15,,i could see the ball bearings bathed in engine oil....hence oil lubes pump...love my c15 2 070,000 and kickin

[@charlescth]

Interesting comments from CAT regarding their filtration module and attempt to improve filtration quality. Aftermarket products like Micfil have been doing this for years and here in the UK, Micfil are beginning to work with CAT Finning for extra filtration.

[@johac7637]

When this engine hit the hood phase, im buying some new trucks, my 2 NZ will still live the love they gotten from me. Gliders are out, so Western Dtar will hopefully have their orders in.

[@milstar71]

I saw this engine at conexpo, on the other side of the wall they had a Perkins engine and it was the same engine

[@otrbreakdown7231]

Great job Josh . I pray to God that will bring more people like you on this world. You love and enjoy this trade of the Diesel MECHANICS (not technicians) . About the new C13 D I think Cat did a great job bringing their engines on the 20 Century technology and it will be on top and ahead of any other Engine manufacturer . On all these common rails is a known fact that the HFPP is the silent killer of the engine if they don`t use high quality materials for the build on these pumps. Not all the operators take regularly oil samples when service these engines and this is a educational deficiency from the OEM producers . I am from EU and they have these engines on the road like 18 Years back and they have learn the lessons for North America this is fairly new it will fail as expected for new technology also the educational factor in using and maintaining it will be a big struggle as these folks are used with old engines that you pee in the fuel tank and they will still go .

[@PatriotEquipmentRepair]

The new engine features a belt driven water pump integrated into what they call there fluid module for less leak points and easier servicing, along with hydraulic lifters so no need for valve lash adjustment.

[@typrus6377]

250 is generally the "Severe Service" PM interval, a standard PM1/2 is 500 on the majority of machines. Yeah, MEUI is rock-solid. Their claims sound about as solid as Bosch's claims that the CP4 was an improvement on the CP3.

[@michaelmurphy6869]

I personally don't know much those MEUI systems just by design they have to be very solid, with those Bosch pumps CP3 and the CP4 it seems to me, all Bosch did with the CP4 was add 1 to the suffix, some design differences and use cheaper internel parts..

[@B0RN2RACE100]

They should still build a C15D, lots of older generation truckers that can afford to buy newer trucks would avoid smaller engines. So they would be more likely to buy a x15 vs c13

[@robertengland8769]

My Diesel mechanic instructor said that a cat engine is a throw away engine. Cummins and Detroit are keepers.

[@LoneWolf-xf5ds]

Thx, seems like a nice engine package, weight to hp. Keep the great post coming

[@DavidTressmer-el1kg]

I believe the the oil lubricated fuel pump is to improve the Bosch design! Boss utilized fuel to cool and lubricate the squash plate and plungers. By lubricate in the back mechanical side of the pump with oil should eliminate a lot of the catastrophic failures as seen in this new CP 4.2.!

[@bob-the-Millwright]

Perkins has a new engine that is very similar if not identical, 13 liter, hydraulic lash adjustment, etc. Fuel rails look identical, rear gear train. bell housing is a little different.

[@johngoldsmith6629]

Most rear gear train design was the old 1600 series, 1693, 1676, 1674. Not using a spin on fuel filters keeps people from prefilling the filter and causing early hour failure of contaminated fuel. Wonder what the max fuel psi is in the rail?

[@holmes1956O]

So you really think some ham fisted moron wont contaminate a cartridge filter. Dirt falling into the housing rain snow crumbs from his cheese puffs

[@davidsignor7931]

Probably around 35 to 40 thousands psi

[@licencedtochill9336]

Hi, Thermo King were running up to 3000Hrs extended service interval 15yrs ago on engines 🤔

[@tonydiesel3444]

40000 hrs

[@David-yy7lb]

Seriously a canister oil or fuel filter mounted upside down Wile E. Coyote pure genius for fuel to spill everywhere vs a spin on filter mounted right side up so fuel or oil doesn't spill everywhere

[@chainsawsandgenerators9952]

i would love to see those 1k hour filters hold up on the dirt side.

[@drew3406]

C13B is already out and has no more egr/nrs. We had a brand new 352 show up a couple weeks ago and when i had a look at the engine it had a C13B in it with no egr. The C9.3B has also been out for a few years now and it also has no egr.

[@luissalinas1591]

Thank you Josh 👍🏼

[@Softtaildeluxe97]

Looks like a mx13 painted yellow but the hp would be nice looking forward to trying one out

[@billdennis2993]

Thx AA for an informative video of Cat's new engine, sooo is Cat going after OTR market again after walking away in '09.

[@michel4music]

I used to work on Sizu (AGCO) engines and we prefered belt driven waterpumps, those and EGR stuf were the only thing you'd need to worry about failing between 7000 and 15000 hours. I Always found gear driven waterpumps a risky undertaking.

[@jakebrake2068]

I couldn’t agree more.

[@nathanwaldner8163]

I'm learned some stuff about cat motors thanks for the information cat is the best

[@davidcarter1738]

Time will tell,following. LOVE your content sir.

[@Danger_mouse]

7:11 Most other companies refer to the the unit that automatically adjusts the valve lash as HLAs. It's not a new term, just new to CAT. 🙂👍 Maybe CAT will become competitive again in the engine market with this emissions compliant engine... Our mining company stepped away from CAT underground machines a few years ago and moved exclusively to Sandvik to avoid the CAT machines. They run the big dumb 27lt in AD65, and the overstretched C15 in the R3000 loader. Neither machine competes well with the Sandvik machines with their tier 4 final Penta engines.

[@G5Hohn]

Looks like Nylon fuel lines from Raytech or similar. Kinda like the ones Cummins had the melted fuel line issue (sticking TRV I think). Inverted canisters are great, but why not make these see-through so you can actually see the filter's condition? A polycarbonate is plenty tough for that purpose. Not sure if that's a Bosch pump or a Denso pump. The Denso HP0 is right at its limit of fueling if they want to push 690hp. The pump is good for about 750tops, and even then only if you drop the pressure from 2400bar down to 2000 to help the pump flow more. Rear gear makes a lot of sense when you consider the wicked torsional vibration a gear-driven HPCR pump can put into the drivetrain. You want the pump close to the mass of the flywheel if at all possible. Trying to drive the pump AFTER all the flex of the crankshaft (i.e. on the front) can cause problems with both the front geartrain and the pump. Rear gears are quieter, have less vibration and are smoother. Cummins had scissor gears on the front gears of the X15 in part because of the front-mounted pump and the vibration it pushed into the gears.

[@Jackknife-TV]

So if this engine actually hits it out of the ballpark will we ever see this between two frame frame rails of a semi truck that's all I would really like to know 👍

[@NBSV1]

Time will tell, but I think it's unlikely. The majority of trucks are fleet ones any more and they're more focused on saving money. And, generally the cheapest option is going to be the standard factory engine. A CAT is going to be the more expensive optional choice. And, for emissions they'd have to develop a different system so it would fit into the trucks. Just not really worth it for them at this point.

[@matthewhaywood7411]

​@NBSV1 if cat release a new engine for trucks I know every second truck in Australia would have one, they were extremely popular before they stopped making them

[@ronaldbrosius7488]

C9, c12 use common rail, but from what ive seen these injectors, need replacing around 10,000 hours, on heavy equipment, and every fuel line you loosen needs to be replaced, because of such high fuel pressures. No more quil tubes on this new engine. I guess we will all have to see how good it is, i really like the 1000 hr service intervals.

[@FarmerSteveO]

I find it interesting that caterpillar is moving ahead with this technology while auto manufacturers are being forced into EV, with some states banning sales of petroleum vehicles by 2030. So unless there’s something I don’t know about, this is telling me that battery power replacement for large constant horsepower applications such as OTR trucks, farm and construction equipment is no way close to being ready for that timeline…

[@miltonandresdelossantoszab7738]

It's very similar to the marine C12.9. I've worked on a yatch with twin C12.9 with 1000 mhp each one, and they also have a very good low end torque. And also, all manufactururers are going to small displacement engines with forced induction (the C12.9 have compound turbos and a supercharger and makes near to 60 PSI of boost)

[@darrensteuber4994]

1000 hour fuel filter changes? Have the Cat engineers purchased fuel lately? I have changed fuel filters on my diesel pickup (before pulling our 5th wheel) and filled up at a Love's or Pilot station and had to change fuel filters on the side of the highway 20 miles down the road. It happens a lot. Diesel fuel is terrible nowadays. Some people think fuel filter changes are by hour/miles. Fuel filter changes are when needed.

[@johnduncan9749]

Soon to be in every International truck because their engines need a lot of love.

[@buckhorncortez]

Won't meet EPA pollution control requirements. CAT got out of the truck engine market in 2010.

[@YoungGuttiMoney]

Marine application only

[@sebastienlanthier9316]

give me a mechanical engine to work on they are simple to work with and to figure out compared to a common rail engine they have so many more components to diagnose and replace. I agree with you Josh that meui injection is better in the fact that they work with less components unlike a heui injector that has oil and fuel but they are both a low pressure fuel system and better in my opinion for cost of repairs i just like the fact of being able to open a valve cover and running an overhead on the engine i can inspect the components and how they wear if any with hydraulic lifter you have no reason to open up the valve cover that means you have no idea how the components are behaving up there other than listening to it running but in the end i may be wrong and CAT may know something i don't i m kind of old style cheers and keep on the great work

[@danroe3897]

I’ll just keep rebuilding my C12. ❤

[@sstevocamaro]

Navistar just came out with an S13 and all the emissions stuff is handled in the one box down stream in the exhaust

[@alouisschafer7212]

No EGR anymore and Commonrail. The exhaust aftertreatment system looks very modern to me since it seems to be an SCR CAT and a DPF directly in Series behind each other and the distance to the turbo outlet is short which is ideal. Hydraulic Lifters... not a huge fan of those in an industrial diesel they will wear out and collapse inevitably at some point but should be an easy fix to just drop a set of new Lifters in an engine like this. I'm not surprised that they brought these modernizations into this engine BUT regarding the Injectors it really depends on the design and the supplier how well they will hold up.

[@dependablekit5500]

That was the first thing I seen was the common rail high pressure system wow good way to get better performance higher fuel pressure better atomization of fuel well time will tell yay more to learn lol!!!!!

[@johnbishop1911]

Imagine how good a Cat engine could be with out emission BS. It can be done but not "compliant" 😁

[@Dat_Sun]

Sure to be reliable and easy to work on.

[@alexstromberg7696]

Scania uses VGT turbos and i worked a year as a buss tech and we serviced around 100 busses and we didn't change any turbos. Also fun to see american engines actually get high horsepower engines. Still scania and volvo has 770 and 750 engines, but we pull more weight too.

[@myfirstnamemoss609]

I'm curious if this would be EPA compliant enough for on-highway use

[@Twister-10228]

Big bore mean more torque which moves the wheels or gets work done, not seeing with this little 13 liter C13D with high horsepower kiddie bs. Going backwards with the cheap plastic filter housing would be removed and adapted by my standards to multi- spin on steel filter assembly. Then the camshaft would be a pain in the ass removing from the rear of the engine like a Paccrap engine. Have to remove the engine from truck or equipment to gain access. Then the variable turbos always breaks compare to just one standard turbo. I probably let it sit on the shelf in the Cat dealer and stay with my 3406 style engine.

[@crandonborth]

Well with the new 2028 emisson regulations soon approaching, your 3406 Cat engine will be soon parked as it not going to pass federal emission standers anymore.

[@andreychuprin7365]

Seems like a complicated engine, oh well I'll have to hang on to my 94 pete with c-model for a while longer

[@joshcecil5892]

You'll regret it if you ever sell it

[@duckslayer92]

I think it's funny we went from cartridge filters in the 30s-70s then spin on, now back to cartridges

[@bostarbird5282]

I'm old and grouchy and don't like anything new.

[@torpedan]

Shhhhh, don’t wake them!

[@pimpmyrustbucket]

ditto. They don't make em like they used to

[@dakotaautosales9673]

@@pimpmyrustbucket They make them better🧁

[@ronfullerton3162]

If it is remotely anything like the 3406, I am in.

[@hokie9910]

Remove the emissions and I’m sure it’s a great power plant.

[@vinniegillotti9347]

I would like to take a look at the engine myself and the new ECM also the ECM available for the military for multi fuels

[@Roger_Rabbit_Adventures]

Interesting. Josh, have you had any experience with the New CAT 6nz Block that you did a video about a while back? Anyone buy one yet?

[@jameslast7555]

Looks like a Cummins engineer went to work for Cat 😊

[@bradenconway9066]

I dunno about a c15 starting badly in cold weather, i have a c15 acert that starts just fine in -15C weather, our cummins engines in our tractors need to be plugged in or need some either to start up. Could just be mine but I’m very happy with it.

[@3459jason]

With all these new engines it's all about the emissions. The engines themselves are great, except international, but if you don't keep up on the aftertreatment stuff have fun after the warranty runs out.

[@ccclc6159]

JD has a new high horse 13L Cummins has the QSZ13L rated up to 760hp, IMO the high horse Detroit 12.7 60 series is a trend setter

[@SteveLouzon]

Lash Adjusters is a term used on over head cam engines.

[@alexmills1329]

Man if they had this engine when they launched CAT class 8 trucks they would actually be good trucks. Don’t attack me, my company has 5 of these and were the first in the state to get a CAT truck.

[@williamhague2768]

Smells like a Perkins to me. Looks like a Perkins to me. I’ll be very interested to see how it performs.

[@buckhorncortez]

So? CAT acquired Perkins in 1998, and they own everything Perkins makes.

[@scubasteve7946]

Looks very similar to the layout of the Paccar MX-13 as well.

[@coryridder1937]

I wondered the same thing.

[@johnnylightning1491]

I guess they call them hydraulic lash adjusters because they adjust the valve lash using hydraulics. I dunno maybe the marketing folks got involved and needed a snazzy name to talk about. I guess my feeling is who cares as long as they work. Keep the good stuff coming.