NEW Combo Square Has UNMATCHED Features For Woodworking | Deep Dive

[@gradeez]

I'll get this in a heartbeat the moment they have the metric version!!!!

[@WoodpeckersLLC]

Still in the design phase but hopefully soon.

[@DerClaudius]

Also waiting for metric. Do you ship to europe?

[@chris770]

@@WoodpeckersLLC what does soon mean?

[@paulturley2313]

@@chris770 about 5-6 weeks from today.

[@WoodpeckersLLC]

@@chris770 To be honest I am not sure the exact time frame but we are working on the design and when we have it then we will introduce it. I am sorry you will need to wait a bit longer

[@benhaysom7491]

I purchased the full set a couple of months ago when first released; obviously, all imperial. Whilst i’m comfortable using either metric or imperial when i started purchasing woodpeckers rules, squares etc a few years ago i had to make a conscious decision on which units to move forward with for both my tools and designs. As i am Australian i chose metric. I really hope you guys will release a full set of metric blades to suit.

[@WoodpeckersLLC]

We are working on that!!

[@epgui]

@@WoodpeckersLLC Please do a metric version of the new mini combo square! I understand these tools are American-made, and probably primarily catering to the American market, but anytime I see a woodpeckers tool available in imperial only, it's a dealbreaker for me and I turn to Starrett or something else I know I can rely on. I care about precision, and I want my tools to have some absolute physical basis (hence the SI units / metric system, which is calibrated in reference to the speed/wavelength of light in a vacuum).

[@James-lo5ne]

Please consider adding the metic version with a pre-order discount.

[@WoodpeckersLLC]

There is one in the works.

[@francisbeland8959]

@@WoodpeckersLLC You just made my day.

[@j.herzog9247]

@@WoodpeckersLLC Please consider to make these available overseas (germany asap). i would even pay for oversea shipment.

[@sparkypdx]

@@WoodpeckersLLC yeah right. You had 9 month to deliver and failed 😞 “we’re locked down due to COVID” When you give a delivery date you should keep it. Period. No excuses.

[@chris770]

@@WoodpeckersLLC Really? I emailed to ask and was just told flat out no - Not "we have one in the works", no timeframe, just no. no to metric is what I got. Soo I went and ordered another brand. Is metric actually coming? Do you have a wait list or something I'm not going to wait or keep checking if all i'm told is no but if you give some sort of time frame... I might just.

[@garyfoster3076]

The 12” combination in-dexable square is simply the BEST in its class and while expensive to my wife, it’s the best money can buy

[@r.mercado9737]

Sir, I really enjoy your commentary and presentation. Outstanding! Semper Fi

[@nobodyisprfct]

I got to be completely honest. I really enjoy this guy's explanations of their tools. This is my dream company to buy my tools from. I wish some of their 1 time tools were available. They have an old American made quality feel. To me this is a top notch company. As poor as I am. It is worth saving money for at least 1 of their products. I also like the videos where he says which size he would get if he could only afford 2 or 1. Lol! Glad this company exists!

[@flyingdiscproductions]

I wish their shipping charges were not so high!

[@nobodyisprfct]

@@flyingdiscproductions - ya but I can only imagine in what shape the tool would be in if cost was less or if it is an insurance fee at there end incase part or tool is damaged by shipping folks. Do you know what the reason for high cost is by any chance?

[@patrickdonegan9559]

@@nobodyisprfct USPS has delivered many items in perfect shape. And if woodpecker business people care or were savvy enuf - UPS and FedEx have special rates for special companies.

[@nobodyisprfct]

@@patrickdonegan9559 that would be cool

[@Gotmovezlikejagga]

Nice looking tool. Nice set of new features. But, more than a starrett? Aluminum head? Even anodized, won't last and hold tight like the cast head of the starrett. The holes for the pencil tip is so big the lines will be off by too much for anything but rough carpentry. He mentioned running the line to the end of the board, but watch the video he didn't complete the line, because you can't because of the hole being in the middle of the ruler. The indexing pin idea while clever will wear the pin and hole over time again causing loose connection. Not meant to be critical, just things to consider before your purchase.

[@stanmashek3085]

great video this guy does a great job showing tools thank you

[@stevedeweerth985]

I am happy to hear that you are making a metric version. When will it be available?

[@andresfelipemoscosohernand2371]

Judging by the

[@slipperytrigger]

It's a very informative video.

[@fivetwelvish]

Would have been an instant buy if metric/imperial combo was offered like the previous generation I bought. The additional retractable edge and indexing makes it almost a no-brainer for purchasing. I need metric for a lot of what I build though. So close.

[@WoodpeckersLLC]

We are working on a metric version.

[@billycrowe4501]

@@WoodpeckersLLC Any news on the metric version??? ready to buy and this comment was made 3 years ago so must be done now.

[@henrytao8091]

I would love to see Woodpeckers make a 6” with the 45° angle as an additional option in either imperial or metric or in both. I would buy one to add to my collection to use.

[@walterplaessmann5865]

Can order a 6” blade as an add on or get the mini version of the combo square which comes with a 6” blade standard

[@skimark8275]

I don't know about that square but that window view is beautiful ,

[@Demcka341]

same view out of my shop window.

[@scottperitz1457]

For me the most important part of a combo square is the locking mechanism. I have had many squares where the mechanism doesn't hold well, rendering the square useless. Did Woodpecker rethink/re-engineer the locking mechanism? Skipping over that function in both your written and video media is a major oversight. Unless I can be sure that it is highly functional and durable I won't make the purchase.

[@MrSatchelpack]

I would have bought this immediately if only it came with the decimal moved to the left in the price.

[@jsol3779]

It's a beautifully made tool, but I can't justify the large price tag.

[@rickblackwell6435]

Starting at $156US and ending at over $600US. Not in this lifetime.

[@draztiqmeshaz6226]

I would have made this myself if only I could do it without moving the decimal to the right in the price

[@ThekiBoran]

I just placed an order for the 6" combo square. $109 and worth every penny. Gotta wait 4 months but so what.

[@flatearthbear4077]

These squares are precision quality tools that will be in the hands of your great great grandchildren long after your sun sets. I purchased this set and the mini set as I can foresee the use of every one. Thanx Woodpeckers !

[@paulaelli]

I do want this piece, Waiting on Metric version. I'm in AUS

[@TheLovelyMissBeans]

This is a beautifully made tool, and I hope to own one in the near future.

[@flyingdiscproductions]

"Because I'm Scotch!" love it!

[@WoodpeckersLLC]

Glad you do...I took a lot of criticism around the original publication for saying I'm "Scotch" instead of "Scottish". "Scotch is a whiskey" I was told over and over again. Apparently, my father and his family didn't know the difference...but they were a couple generations removed from the "old country".

[@patrickdonegan9559]

@@WoodpeckersLLC I have heard that some people from Scotland really care about saying one way and not the other. I have also read that people back home dont care. I say "fight away" because, well, from my name ... we are black Irish ... and supporters of a Free Ireland. ;)

[@kevinthomson6324]

The index holes are a amazing idea and that tab to keep it from tilting is also very clever

[@WoodWorkersWorkshopLimited]

Looking forward to having these available to our customers in the UK and EU, fingers crossed for the metric version.

[@slhasebroock]

Really enjoy these Deep Dive videos, thank you! Great innovation on the classic squares!

[@r.mercado9737]

Outstanding!

[@pierocorazza2258]

Hi, are you planning a metric version and if so when?

[@michaelkaye4998]

Really nice. Need metric version

[@WoodpeckersLLC]

We are working on a metric version.

[@BlackSwan912]

Will you buy it then? Yeah I thought not. 😜

[@michaelkaye4998]

@@BlackSwan912 none of your business

[@BlackSwan912]

@@michaelkaye4998 point made

[@kevinshea4353]

Pricey but well worth the precision and being American Made!!! The indexing and slide out foot are fantastic features. Now I just need to decide on which one to get.

[@robertsmc72]

Would you recommend the 18” combination square or the 18” carpenters square?

[@WoodpeckersLLC]

Combination square is more versatile.

[@robertsmc72]

@@WoodpeckersLLC thank you so much for the reply. I not only Love your tools, but your customer service and knowledge is just as impressive.

[@dellinger71]

I use the Ulmia Combo-Square, and it't the far best, I've ever had. Yes, it's expensive, but it's absolutely worth it.

[@AWJ318]

What is the accuracy of the combination squares? Also, will the six inch blade fit the head for the 12 inch combination square?

[@WoodpeckersLLC]

Adam, the combination squares are built to the same standard as our fixed blade squares, which is .0085 degrees, or .001" per foot. Since it is adjustable, we do not offer the same lifetime guarantee of accuracy that we offer with the fixed blade squares, but you can rest assured, they start life at the same point. Yes, the 6" blade fits in the combination square head that comes with a 12" blade. 3 blades, 2 heads, everything fits.

[@christophlanger3291]

Warum gibt es diese Winkel nicht in einer metrischen Version?

[@beregu]

Is there any news or hope for the metric version?

[@MorrMedia1]

Can you only set the square to the positive stops or can you lock it anywhere on the rule?

[@WoodpeckersLLC]

It will lock anywhere. The stops are to calibrate the scribing guides.

[@JeffRL1956]

You guys are geniuses. I am thoroughly impressed with every new tool you come out with.

[@michael.schuler]

I bought this tool and love the repeatability that the Indexable head feature provides. Question: When adjusting to a new indexing hole, I find that the head feels a bit stuck in the last indexed position, preventing me from repositioning the head unless I first wiggle it a bit out of parallel with the blade after releasing the clamping screw. Is this normal technique, or am I doing something wrong, e.g. over-tightening the locking screw when using the indexing pin.

[@WoodpeckersLLC]

Sounds just like what I've experienced. The fit of the indexing pin is pretty snug. Takes just a little wiggle to get the spring to pop it out.

[@lawrencemccoy]

I would like a metric version, and I am in the US...metric is much easier to use.

[@WoodpeckersLLC]

There is one in the works!!

[@izzychen7537]

Please consider making a metric version of this tool. I love Woodpeckers tools but I only purchase the metric versions of them. Thanks!

[@lemech]

Me too

[@WoodpeckersLLC]

We are working on a metric version.

[@lemech]

@@WoodpeckersLLC Yes! Thank you!

[@abelgerli]

Only the US and miyamat uses currently not the metric system.

[@laurawerner]

Are the rulers and heads on all of these interchangeable? For example, if I buy a 6" double square and a 12" combination square, can I swap the heads and have a 12" double square when I need it? Also, I second (third? twelfth?) the request for metric versions. Even though I'm in the US I'm slowly switching to metric. I don't want to buy much more inch-based gear.

[@WoodpeckersLLC]

Yes they are

[@MrJflower2]

is it possible to purchase wall mounts for our woodpeckers tools? I purchased a 32" T-square recently and it didn/t come with one. Thanks

[@WoodpeckersLLC]

Yes. Email me your information and I’ll send you a metal racket. [e-mail]

[@SilverbackWoodworks]

Question: if the head is aluminum and the blade is steel, what prevents the blade from eroding the head becoming inaccurate??

[@jefffarris4101]

The anodizing.

[@toolchuck]

​@@jefffarris4101Jeff, I know that Type III anodic coatings are hard, assuming that is what you are using. But even that level of coating cannot stand up over time to being worn against stainless steel, especially dry. Is there a way machined into the head/body (like a conventional square) for the blade to ride on that could be honed/filed to re-square the blade if need be?

[@BlackSwan912]

@@toolchuck if you ever need that on a Woodpeckers tool, I’ll buy it off of you. 😀

[@toolchuck]

@@BlackSwan912 I have Woodpecker tools, they are well made for sure. But no one or no company is perfect. I have a tool I bought from them, quite recently actually and it is not a square or a measuring device, which is their mainstay. Upon receiving it I immediately found a design issue that could make it useless to many who bought it. I contacted them, shared photos etc. In about five days I had a re-machined part in hand that corrected the issue. I was told these corrections were made to the production run which was still in progress. This is quite a testament to their support I must say. By the way, it is one damn sweet tool, and you could not pry out of my hands if you tried! So, yes, I will sell you the first one they sent me, got $150??? And this also goes to the point of many claiming that Woodpecker’s tools are just overpriced eye candy and not everyday tools. If a steel way (which Starrett squares use and last a lifetime+) were inset into the body for the blade to ride on it would have addressed any wear issues and would also have allowed for re-squaring as any square that is actually used will eventually need. As it is now, once the body wears, and sooner or later it will, it becomes useless, well as a square anyways.

[@Rage-of-War]

I literally just bought a set from PEC...... grrrr, I want this!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@jasonbabila6006]

I love Woodpeckers tools and I have quite a few, my only issue is the one time ordering, some of the tools I've been wanting and needing to get isn't available anymore.

[@norsebavarian1941]

I agree. It forces you to buy tools that you maybe don't need for fear that if you need it in the future it won't be available. That's not a good business model. Make high quality useful tools and buyers will make you rich and successful.

[@WoodpeckersLLC]

We understand, that’s why we are converting many of our OneTIME Tools to permanent products - just like our Combo Squares.

[@julianniemeyer1655]

@@WoodpeckersLLC The problem is that Banggood knock-offs persist after your OneTIME offers expire - e.g. router template corners - so when/if you do a rerun it is too late.

[@albertsisneros7627]

Can you tell me were to buy all 4 of them.i have been looking and cannot find them. Thank you

[@WoodpeckersLLC]

woodpeck.com

[@albertsisneros7627]

Ok thank you

[@Camden04843]

Can’t you use the combination to check the inside or outside of boxes for squareness? Or is there too much play in the blade?

[@billycrowe4501]

Any news on a 300mm option?

[@l.rod2827]

Great squares for true craftsman with true $$$$.

[@box0xB9]

I bought a pair of these when they were first announced, but returned them because the head didn’t slide smoothly across the blade. I suspect this was due to all of the holes carved into the blade. Nice idea, but needs some work.

[@trooperfitclub]

What are the dimensions of the standard double compared to the XL double square

[@EPSTomcat11]

Metric / Imperial combo and I’m sold

[@WoodpeckersLLC]

We are currently working I. The design for a metric version. Right now if you are looking at the mini version we do not have a metric version and right now there won’t be a metric version in mini because right the design just doesn’t work. But we keep trying. www.woodpeck.com/in-dexable-combination-double-squares.html

[@EPSTomcat11]

@@WoodpeckersLLC Thanks for the response! Looking at the standard combo. With globalization more and more is metric but it’s still nice to have the imperial for reference and legacy applications. If the edge has two sets of notches, one side imperial one side metric, you’ve got a clear top of the line winner.

[@mrector23]

Updated: Woodpeckers reached out to me the day after I posted this comment. They were quick to ask for feedback and reviewed my pictures and concerns very professionally. They were quick to make it right and a willingness to make things right is as important as a good product. Thank you for offering a professional tool with a professional ear. Edited: Long story short - Received my combo square and when compared to some of my other Woodpecker tools I was a bit disappointed.

[@WoodpeckersLLC]

Thanks for the update, Michael.

[@justinjones3499]

I don't do carpentry but I do energy board/foam board for what my job calls building envelope projects and this would come in handy for measuring cuts but like alot have said not for $100+

[@FishNDoogie]

i watched the DeepDive video earlier and I thought the person mentioned if you are only going to get 2 versions of the combinations squares, to purchase what 2?

[@michaelhutin5451]

These look great, are they available in the UK?

[@stevesls007]

Given the exceptional quality and features of Woodpecker tools, I am a bit surprised that the Combination Squares do not incorporate a spirit / bubble level into the tool. Why not?

[@ZenMinus]

I Like the tool, but think the slide out "foot" on which to rest the body of the square on the wood, has a minor flaw. If the wood is narrower than the distance from the blade to the "foot" then you have the same problem. Why not (re)design it so that the foot slides out to almost the full height/length of the body. A tapered arrangement designed similar to an adjustable parallel could work. The body should contain a tapered groove and pushing a similar pin moves a matching tapered "foot" causing it to slide out from the body. :-) Great tool I'll consider the metric version when it finally makes it to Australian shores, but over here it will be VERY EXPENSIVE!

[@subydude88]

Please tell me this will be coming back soon! I’d like to buy some. Can we start signing up for another round??

[@WoodpeckersLLC]

These are the Indexible combination and double squares. These are a permanent product. www.woodpeck.com/in-dexable-combination-double-squares.html

[@meatstick12gben]

wow really nice tools . the 12" combo is $159.and they have a sale right now for the whole set at $620. Sigh, i think ill stick with my Empire combo square from Home Depot for a while or until I hit the lotto

[@timan2039]

I use my Great Grandfather's combo square, as accurate today as when I first picked it up as a kid.

[@LuminairPrime]

This square is 4 generations beyond normal squares: 1) anodized aluminum body for no rust, 2) support arm for more accuracy, 3) scribing holes in blade for more accuracy and utility, 4) spring-loaded lock into blade notches for guaranteed precision. Other squares are still behind the times, years later.

[@neelamharia4225]

Is it available in metric also?

[@WoodpeckersLLC]

Yes, it is.

[@maximiliankrug1011]

And again unavailable as a metric version. Germany (the Land if precision) would love to see some of your tools.

[@CarstenDittrich2014]

Nice - need this in metric too, pls ...

[@redpepr1]

Woodpeckers, what is on the back of the blades? It wood be great if metric was on the other side of the blades. I know that could be a problem. What if you switch the 1/16" side to metric?

[@jennadollface]

omg I need this for my woodworking but i am in UK and cant get it here

[@MattLitkeRacing]

I’d buy a 150mm and 300mm. If you could make a 100mm I’d buy that too

[@WoodpeckersLLC]

We are in the design phase for the metric version. Hope to shop them soon.

[@MattLitkeRacing]

@@WoodpeckersLLC I appreciate that. Thanks

[@amtechprinters3339]

Ohh, thats so good you dont need to reset it all time but just move your pencil to another slot for different lenghts

[@skullandcrossbones65]

G'day Looks good. Will you make a metric version? Could you put a pivot on the 45 so it could be set at 22.5,30, 45, & 60?

[@liaison66]

awesome square!

[@HiTechDiver]

Great features and innovation, though I think I'll wait for economies of scale to kick in.

[@johnhernlund539]

Please make some options in metric.

[@BanquetesBanesa]

Saludos desde ciudad de México Miguel Hidalgo Col. Pensil excelentes videos

[@heystarfish100]

I own so many different combination squares already that although I don’t have any good reason to get another one but I could justify adding this one. 🤣🤣🤣

[@deemdoubleu]

pity we can't buy these in the uk at the moment

[@huejanus5505]

I’ll take the imperial version please.

[@wb_finewoodworking]

Please make one of these in a six inch version. I want one for my workshop apron. Thanks.

[@ThekiBoran]

They did, I just placed an order. It won't ship until June 30 but for me working in the field this is a must have. My Starrett is going into a drawer.

[@sal8372]

Sold

[@chrisharper2658]

I was wondering why in both cases, when making the one inch marks, did you obstruct the viewer's view with your hand?

[@ThekiBoran]

Cuz he's evil.

[@5Iron]

No scribe? That would be a deterrent for me. I'm sure one could have been designed in in a such a way it didn't interfere with the head-tab.

[@stevesls007]

Good point, Bob. I would also like to see a spirit / bubble level incorporated into the design. I like the noted enhancements, but why abandon what might be considered other "standard features" of other combo squares like the scripe and bubble level?

[@POOKIE5592]

These look super-cool, but holy balls, are they expensive!

[@rjtumble]

The video doesn't mention how accurate these are. Combination squares are kind of known for not being the go to device, given that they're adjustable. How do these stand up in that regard?

[@5zwoodworks]

I know I'm alone in this and I completely understand the cost. Wish I could afford your stuff. It's too expensive. Hopefully you'll consider a line that's just a little more affordable for us guys and gals starting out in the hobby. Cheers!

[@ThekiBoran]

Home Depot has everything you need to get started.

[@julianniemeyer1655]

Why no metric options - it is only the rules that would need to be changed. Also: Scotch is the drink, Scottish are the people.

[@WoodpeckersLLC]

We are working on that!

[@robertsyourrelative]

@@WoodpeckersLLC " Scotch is the drink, Scottish are the people", and you are clearly neither.

[@MichaelBrown-kk6ck]

Depends on how much you drink. Drink enough scotch and you become scotch by volume.

[@jtlong8383]

Ugh, I just bought your original version a few months ago with the detachable indexing pin.

[@johnnyalcala7228]

I order the 12" Combination square , still waiting for it to arrive

[@OehlJim]

It won't be available 'til 04/01/2021...as per Woodpecker.

[@johnnyalcala7228]

@@OehlJim Yeah wish it was sooner..thank you

[@fbtool]

I want the 6" and 12" so bad!

[@draztiqmeshaz6226]

That's what she said

[@Demcka341]

@@draztiqmeshaz6226 haha yes.

[@SirLesMeyer]

That little lug is a copy of the Vesper tools square.

[@thomasmichael0317]

Is this a one-time tool or will it always be available?

[@WoodpeckersLLC]

These are permanent product.

[@joeblow5958]

You forgot to mention the $170 price tag for the 12”combo square ($650 for the set). I guess I’d be embarrassed to mention that too. No thanks... I’m doing just fine with my $15 antique Stanley I picked up at the flea market.

[@almosh3271]

When are you going to come up with metric version of this thing?

[@WoodpeckersLLC]

We are currently working in the metric version.

[@zboy.05]

I dont own any woodpeckers tools sadly. They are really awesome, but man are they expensive

[@maxxsilverhammer7418]

When I go to the website to order it says it’s a retired tool.

[@WoodpeckersLLC]

These are the Indexible combination and double squares. www.woodpeck.com/in-dexable-combination-double-squares.html

[@Davisauraus]

Are the blades interchangeable? Like could i take the Head of the XL combination square and use the standard 12 inch blade?

[@jefffarris4101]

Yes you can!

[@gellotion]

Checked your website just last week, you had no combination squares for sale. It showed that they had only ever been available as a One Time tool about a year ago, and that was it. That you now sell combo squares is the real news here, if that is in fact the case. What's up?

[@WoodpeckersLLC]

We have made these in-dexible versions a new permanent product.

[@jeanlucmonniot9436]

always not metric

[@WoodpeckersLLC]

Work on the metric version.

[@MixingGBP]

I don't like combi squares because it seems their angles aren't true. What is it about your square that makes it a reliable and accurate angle every time?

[@WoodpeckersLLC]

That's why we make a wide range of fixed blade squares, too. For the absolute best precision, a fixed blade is superior to an adjustable square. Adjustable squares are versatile. They can do a variety of jobs and do them with an acceptable degree of accuracy. We did not -- nor would we -- say that these combination squares more accurate than our fixed squares.

[@MixingGBP]

@@WoodpeckersLLC cool. I already own 2 of your fixed squares...use them on every job. I like the idea of a combination square, but when I learned that my big box combi square was not accurate, it essentially went straight to the trash bin.

[@kenanderson2989]

Can I get one graduated in decimal inches?

[@ared18t]

I'm to broke for this haha

[@williamlang9608]

if you are who you make out to be you would no that you are not scotch(whisky) YOU ARE SCOTS. TUT TUT.

[@jefffarris4101]

Sorry about that. It's far enough back in my family tree that apparently the frugality is all that is left!

[@BlackSwan912]

@@jefffarris4101 Good recovery. I caught that usage too.

[@raizen696969]

Scotch?

[@claudiorazzetti8682]

Nice , but too expensive ,my older stuff works just as good.

[@sparkypdx]

I ordered the whole set and waited for over 9 months. Finally called, i said i would take any they had ready. Their BS excuse was COVID. That was a month into COVID. Canceled the oder

[@contessa.adella]

0:44 Did he just say he was ‘Scotch’? Scotch is a whiskey mate. A person of Scottish descent would wack you with a Haggis for calling them Scotch. The word is a….Scot. I know this…and I’m a sassenach. 😂

[@Jeremy_810]

"Errant mark" is my middle names