NEW COMMANDER REWORK UPDATE IS HERE! & REMOVED JOHN VOICES | TDS UPDATE (Roblox)

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[@ItzSweaking]

edit not all commander skin have custom APC just some of them for now i guess...

[@LogoLone]

ok

[@Telamon_223]

I'm sad that Bloxy hasn't changed anything, I was expecting something cool...

[@itzstqr]

I would like to see a pirate ship pirate commander APC lmao

[@ItzSweaking]

@@itzstqr same, and watermelon apc

[@black-zu8yp]

​@@ItzSweakingwatermalon!

[@Spardori]

Commander rework ❌ Commander Nerf ✅

[@SpyRats]

Agreed. I thought the rework Commander, would've 60% or 65% max firerate buff

[@Luboslav2]

A lot of us can agree, a lot of us can disagree that is just the truth.

[@robloxboom6lesecond4]

to be fair since we have consumables its not that big of a hit

[@Wes_gaming2671]

Why would you complain about that? Tds is taking a step in the right direction, balancing all of their towers and making the gameplay less braindead.

[@Fabian-in7ee]

Actually i like the rework i don't care if it's more like a nerf

[@oiimmegadonuts.4362]

Darn, the commander got nerfed, especially with the call to arms ability... which makes sense because he no longer screams as much, therefore less fighting spirit

[@thelightbeamer9693]

Bro got older 😢😢😢

[@tanskie250]

Not saying "come on" from his voice lines

[@pylotheric9777]

commander ran out of voice for the apocalypse so he had to bring the apc

[@Zephyr549]

THE COMMANDER STACKS

[@t_skreppy5883]

​@@Zephyr549👀

[@Mr.Roe_Deer]

2:14 heres your answer: They did-... We did.

[@Lich45]

The real complains from me is buff that aint no commander at all

[@Madrugao_da.guerra]

Greatly reduced the distance from the commander

[@Ambitious_aydenn]

What a good “change”

[@Faker-freddy]

Dude made commander john from tdx which is ironic

[@pylotheric9777]

​@@Faker-freddy????

[@ganchei4882]

​@Faker-freddy bro what commander hasnt even released yet in tdx

[@Anti_Cringe1]

@@Faker-freddywhat

[@The_ManBan]

No more John😢

[@UnknownYT-]

sad

[@themaskedman8668]

Didn't john in his latest videos show some rework of vehicles with the collab on tb on commander and it looks offly similar

[@themaskedman8668]

I'm pretty sure they got rid of John voice because they have beef with him now or some

[@noobehGD]

@@themaskedman8668John stopped working with tds as he isn’t in the group anymore. there is no beef.

[@ThisDudedumb]

@@noobehGDhonestly he would be better with tds his game is going terrible

[@nicknick493]

so basically they're helping tdx overtake tds like fr, why on earth would they remove the most iconic sound in the game and nerf a tower where everything else is balanced around? It makes absolutely 0 sense and the range decrease is just insane. 14 range at max is absurdly low for a support tower. Devs will fr do EVERYTHING but rework hardcore

[@PhuongNguyen-gc8cx]

nah, commander is so op cause it cost a little price like about 17k and it can make a turret douple it dps or almost douple for accel. So the commander deserve that rework

[@KratosSuffering]

did you just say commander was balanced

[@Raptor8118.]

John doesn’t work for the team anymore lmao, he doesn't want be associated with any other game.

[@nicknick493]

@@KratosSuffering balanced around it

[@PlatinumLeft]

@@nicknick493It never was tfym

[@friendgaming5482]

there is no way they gave lead detection and more dmg to a purely support tower 💀

[@wehavenotakebacks9363]

They tried to balance it out to the nerf, it’s still horrible

[@femurbreaker0]

great idea lets buff the damage of the tower NOBODY EVER uses for dps

[@A59ri]

lead and flying commander can kill lead balloons now

[@Meme_lord47]

I have an idea they should give commanders lead detection to shotgunner level two

[@wehavenotakebacks9363]

@@A59ri that’s not op

[@Blaz3yt1]

no idea why tds receives so much undeserved hate nowadays. the updates are so high quality now when compared to even a year ago. they "nerfed" commander because they are trying to make the game less reliant on commander and dj (dj rework???). right now, dj and commander are required in 99% of loadouts, taking up two out of five spots right there and then. i think that this approach can greatly benefit the game as they are working on reworking old outdated towers and adding new unique ones as well. i think tds' future is quite bright and can't wait for what's next! (brawler tower tomorrow lets goooo! 💪)

[@Blurtion]

tb rip off.

[@pokade3659]

they might aswell remove farm

[@Funkyleb]

@@pokade3659farm isn’t needed??? Cowboy exists for a reason

[@Funkyleb]

@@Blurtionsure, keep saying that because that implies that tb has better quality

[@Maria_Rosecleide]

@@Blurtion tb is dead anyways

[@chrispro0980]

the last think of jonh is only a skin 😭😭

[@Krambar546]

Watch that get removed when militant rework

[@Dualspeedbattler3782]

And paintballer with the mask and hat

[@lesha32171]

​@@Dualspeedbattler3782If you mean the mask that paintballer and john probably wear, they aren't John's. That mask is an official roblox item.

[@Jaysin12]

​@@Krambar546 militant got reworked 2 years ago,you new or some shit?

[@DailyD5]

​@@Jaysin12who said a rework only comes once and never again

[@SashasTheSpeedrunnr]

Old one sounded like he had a fighting spirit Now he sounds like a anime protagonist. ghost commander is still cool though

[@dekokiri9961]

So true

[@circuit1138]

they really hate john now 😭

[@HappyStupidhead]

Or, y'know. He works on an entirely different tower defense game, so J.Roblox can't do commander VA

[@frindon326]

I am all for seeing where they will take this new commander capabilities (if there are any) also wow you uploaded this video quickly

[@thelightbeamer9693]

They don't need to rework it tbh, as commander is perfect the way it is. Just remodel them and their animation is enough. Edit: now that I think about it, the rework is okay, I love APC :3

[@bestplayerofalltime105]

Eh he did need one but not like this. They just straight up made him tb commander

[@Gab12345BR]

bro commander outshined all other sup towers

[@infxnite4431]

​@@Gab12345BRconsidering there's only like 3 support towers in total, NO WONDER

[@beerite8326]

@@bestplayerofalltime105 better version lol

[@RandomName514]

they violated my boy commander😭😭

[@shusorcery3284]

They changed my neko commander😭

[@Slayer15711]

​@@shusorcery3284 Now hes trash

[@SomebodyIsCool]

fr ;-;

[@CuriousChres]

The amount of strats that has been affected so far is crazy 😭

[@redman48ita31]

Commander its overall got nerfed on most important think.

[@definitivamentenosoyunacaja]

fr

[@mechaniccccc]

Ape ass devs can't nerf commander. if they do that hardcore is impossible

[@redman48ita31]

​@@mechaniccccc oh they did.

[@mechaniccccc]

@@redman48ita31 i was saying they can't cause that's literally one of the worst decisions for the game they cannot do that. I know they did but damn

[@redman48ita31]

@@mechaniccccc yeah honest the rework make max 50% firerate plus now you cant anymore do full 100%100 time ability since cooldown its now 40 second and placement limit has return to 3.

[@Anti_Cringe1]

this reminds me of those nutshell videos that were popular during frost invasion specifically one with all the towers having abilities which actually seems to be happening

[@doodlewalmart]

0:05 I love how you specifically said lucille lol

[@diegodelamacorra8901]

Frankly all it needs is a range buff, and it will be a bit better. And it also looks like the APCs will need a damage or health upgrade.

[@jinmori155]

No

[@nachopop-bv1bu]

@@jinmori155 yes

[@mechaniccccc]

No cause they removed chaining 😂no more beating hardcore without chaining my man

[@diegodelamacorra8901]

@@mechaniccccc does it look like I care

[@mechaniccccc]

@@diegodelamacorra8901 you replied so yes

[@matthere12262]

2:10 you can spam apc selling commander and placing it at max lvl, if you have the money though

[@Guest_-sc6nb]

I just know wikia is cooking an 8 minute video about this

[@prospeedrunner1]

I feel like spamming commander as both support and baits is more important than getting a placement limit with APC. Feels like the placement limit should be more, or they can find a way to stop players from using APC in more than 3 commanders

[@theworldaccordingtocolt5361]

Oh no it can't be. They got rid of one of the last iconic things in tds. The John commander voice lines

[@hdhdhddhhdhd-nv3ko]

them and john been beefing, they had every right to, john doesnt even work for tds anymore

[@richard.0819]

​@@hdhdhddhhdhd-nv3kohe never did

[@PatoGrupo]

​@@hdhdhddhhdhd-nv3koHe never really worked for TDS, he just contributed to some stuff

[@theworldaccordingtocolt5361]

@hdhdhddhhdhd-nv3ko dang that sucks. I really thought him and below never had beef with each other. It's still pretty sad to see one of the oldest and most nostalgic relics gone

[@Raptor8118.]

What kinda bullshit am I hearing now? They have no beef lmao. Don’t know where y'all got that.

[@TheDuaGuy]

The aco kinda looks like the top path of armored factory in tdx. Nice

[@Soju_Enthusiast]

"heres three useless tanks and skin reworks to take your mind off the fact we nerfed the hell out of commander"

[@vLon3wrld]

facts like wtf

[@AML665]

Commander has some good reworks. Despite the nerfs in terms of range and fire rate debuff. He is still a good support tower now that he has all the detections like the Engineer. He is a good addition in the Engineer's Family and he will be useful in Hardcore, and in Pizza Party and other event maps when it comes to Flying, Hidden, and Lead combined into one with its buffed damage. Hence i love it! ❤️ Just need to use him carefully in diff scenarios

[@Arandomcommenter]

I need to be careful then since it has a placement limit of 3 then no more emergency commander I useally place 3 but sometimes 4 the 4th one is the emergency because if I use 2 call of arms at the same time it would risk my game and turn it into a lost. The placement limit should be 4 instead. Plus mix those tanks with military base that would make a great military convoy.

[@gachafrieslol2254]

looks like I can no longer beat fallen or hardcore now cause I can’t spam 7 commanders next to my accelerators SO THIS UPDATES AMAZING!

[@BransonYT]

Crazy how this is exactly what John said he was gonna do with the commander a couple months ago

[@VladiusCurze]

I do like the new voiceline but the John voice would forever be in our hearts Sounds something like what a space marine captain would say Most definitely a Black Templar or an Iron Hand or some other chapter, I don’t know of.

[@nghongzhong4501]

Bro....... That's tower battles commander

[@Iraqiboye3]

idk the old atleast was better

[@tbtb1602]

Yep

[@pylotheric9777]

Tower battles commander but better

[@irohmoua5820]

@@pylotheric9777actually worse. Tower battles commander is just built different.

[@Phuphaton]

Epic

[@Kehprii1777]

No way that they bring out tower battle commander 🔥🔥🔥

[@enderbragen1659]

I'm glad we have 3 as the max amount of commanders so we can still chain them instead of only having 1 commander destroying a lot of strats

[@Pastemyname]

Say goodbye to commander chaining guys

[@sunbloxian]

it’s now further from being a commander

[@CornTaki]

R.I.P John... you will be mis- STRENGTH IN NUMBERS!! - seriously I was in the middle of my dramatic line...

[@Normal_ice_cube]

I love how an apc is weaker than a swat van

[@YcarosAccount]

after looking at all the skins I have, it looks like the only commander skins that had a major rework are the one that are "Still obtainable" Eclipse Commander looks about the same (it even has the wooden stool) same with the Holiday commander, and bloxy commander, and according to the discord Springtime commander is just straight out broken. I do not own, Ghost, Gargoyle, and bunny, but if my theory is correct, wouldn't be surprised if those skins are also not redesigned.

[@T.three_]

Springtime changed a ton, It’s just you cant place it right now because of a bug

[@KratosSuffering]

Ghost, Gargoyle and Bunny all got major redesigns. Ghost is AMAZING now, went from C tier to S tier skin for sure. Gargoyle looks better now (in my opinion), haven't seen bunny yet

[@audradelightable]

I want my pirate commander rework

[@DogHeadset]

They made commander from being best tower to just be a mid spawner

[@loogiazero]

the devs did such an amazing job with the remodel. props to the 3d artists

[@everydaylearner283]

I have predicted it. a lot of strats are going to break right now.

[@Ghostly050]

Imagine an armored apc get destroyed by a single big zombie

[@m1rifle235]

With johns voice lines being retired, i fell like this represents john leaving tds and moving on to his own game tdx (I could be wrong)

[@Eugenecapobianco]

I feel like the new ability was a little much nice remodel I just don’t feel like it was needed it was already a good enough model as it was although it still looks a lot better

[@leonardoxavier6224]

Comander is now much worse without the john voices 💀😭

[@ashirain123cute]

i miss john voice:(

[@KingN00B1]

Best Way to Chain Commanders: Waves before Final Wave: Wait 3-4 seconds before using a commander ability. Final Wave: Use a commander ability, after 10 seconds use another commander ability, sell & rebuy the first commander, and repeat. This method is super expensive, but that isn’t a problem when it’s the final wave. In addition, this method is a good way at countering stuns, it makes sure towers are always buffed by 50%, and you’ll always have a back-up commander.

[@lazyboy124]

Commander scream feel like gladiator voice but not been edited (or it actually gladiator voice but been edited)

[@RandomizedRandomstufz]

RIP the Iconic Wooden Stool and Chaining

[@ConeGuy-pz8hv]

isn’t this tdx ideas? Nah this is starting to get sussy with the commander spawning apc cars when that was tdx idea with tb

[@OrangeFrendy]

Ngl, the new commander voice lines are very well done. But make a another skin like classic skin to have john's voice line

[@_syuri7676]

R.I.P John tower 2019-2020(Hardcore)

[@TheDarkLord--]

BET dj is gonna have dance stunning ability

[@minerdxxd733]

I'm gonna say it, it's not too bad, you'd generally have 3 Commanders to begin with, but I will say that the range nerf hits the most I hope they get the time to model the other Commander convoy skins

[@Marshall1q.]

They're so petty for removing the john stuff

[@mechaniccccc]

You can't chain anymore

[@minerdxxd733]

@@mechaniccccc you still can, it's just gonna have a bit of a downtime

[@mechaniccccc]

@@minerdxxd733 i'm sure they're smart enough right now to buff it soon, you CANNOT remove chaining

[@minerdxxd733]

@@mechaniccccc you do know this was bound to happen right? CTA chaining was op

[@seabass1428]

Bro got MASSACRED 💀

[@user-bh4rl1xx5v]

Im 101 percent sure that they decided to rework commander AND his voice lines just to remove john's voice (they have removed john and raz statues from the rocket arena map so thats why im convinced that they did so)

[@Somethinglalala]

Especially with towers like paintballer still rotting in the shop

[@zebrastripe7990]

I don’t agree if they truly did it for that reason they would also get rid of the John militant.

[@user-bh4rl1xx5v]

@zebrastripe7990 it was a code skin, they kept it FOR AWAY TOO LONG as a code because they propably forgot about it (then it became expired after alot of time period) and then some time later they removed the statues and they completly forgot about militant or even his skins so im pretty sure they just forgot about it lmao

[@Somethinglalala]

@@zebrastripe7990 I feel like removing the John militant would cause too much drama compared to the simple statues and code expire

[@robowisanveithasung6022]

An admin said the devs removed John voice lines to keep it consistent with other professional voice actors in paradoxum

[@PumpkinGamer303]

these vehicle models spawned by commander looks oddly similar to the TDX's tanks.

[@Thegreatmemethief]

And very similar to the Stryker ability in tower battle…

[@pylotheric9777]

Let me guess, just the color?... 😂

[@Kalevin240]

Yea ngl the German military copied the apc from tdx

[@PumpkinGamer303]

@@Thegreatmemethief yeah fr

[@PumpkinGamer303]

@@Kalevin240 can you elaborate?

[@Hastbeast131ishere]

Tds really went full tb💀💀💀

[@inky-pj7ox]

three things I noticed 1. Commander is a spawner now 2. They removed neko commander’s fursuit 3. Accel broke (at least for me)

[@Anormalperson98]

We gonna miss the old times

[@General_Frost]

Commander went through puberty.. again.

[@bimbox7992]

Btw why is the last upgrade commander looks like a grampa

[@VaibhiTheLegendGamer]

Commander no longer number 1 support tower but became dps tower

[@Father_Figure-ge7ug]

The vehicles health kinda suck because I say that APC’s are really powerful in war and it savers mostly most lives in a war.

[@lusilusi6371]

Bro the last upgrade, it make Commander look like old man

[@Dabeztgamer]

they need to make APC's skins for umbra commander. i wonder how it will look like....

[@delta_cosmic]

this rework is the first where they made a mistake in. A lot of strategies are now ruined as a result.

[@bayronperezperez1544]

I think tds is trying to relaese new quality updates to compete again tdx like look at their designs and they're updating a lot more with better uodates instead of just skins

[@thebearer8904]

They basically just did this to buff range and cooldown flags.

[@TordBot69]

the maid commander anime girl missile thing is my favourite thing ever

[@babymanter0936]

It seems like John just doesn’t exist anymore. All we have is the skin, and who knows, that might be removed later, too.

[@WildanGamingYT0]

Are those tower battles Strykers

[@imaready2388]

Why does it looks similiar to TB commander (the max level eyepatch and the APC)

[@ZuriMuriMuri]

Good thing they did rework commander and its stats and am pretty much fine with this new voice actor.

[@WhyisYouraverageClonehere]

I’m not mad about most things, they just need to fix the range and How they ABSOLUTLY nerfed the fire rate buffs

[@maskednoob5885]

At least John is making his commander

[@Zamundead]

yep just like what i predicted, it will get a nerf

[@Jackyanimations010]

Commander sounds more like a border patrol guard or somethin...

[@VoidRealm69]

bring me back my old john voice lines, this old man just sounds like he's decreasing my tower's firerate

[@cheem916]

Why would I need lead and fly detection if it will only attack some seconds?:v

[@user-cr9xu5pk3r]

Joe Swanson commander with that voice

[@Meme_lord47]

I’m fine with the rework itself. They just need to give commander back. It’s range and it’ll be perfect.

[@Tanis_64]

Also the missile APC is more of an IFV

[@AaronVillAlt]

john we will always remember you.

[@commenter900]

Don't let the devs cook

[@Blizzr]

Although it’s sad John’s voice line is gone, the new guy is still quite good

[@khairanimdeusoff]

Bro johns voice fit more than the new actor voice.

[@oldrobloxgoodolddays]

Down side of this rework range decrease 5% nerf for 0:54 call of arms and placement limit of 3

[@rand0mp3rs0n5]

You never really use more than 3 commanders, but the cooldown of it is bad

[@richard.0819]

​@@rand0mp3rs0n5 how much is it?

[@thebearer8904]

You can still perfectly CTA chain though, since it's a bit longer than 10s.

[@MangoGalaxyYT]

Placement limit is no problem since we usually only use 3 anyway, but the cooldown of cta is bad

[@richard.0819]

@@thebearer8904 less bad

[@Dabeztgamer]

it will be a ok rework if they: add 2 more range to the commander, make different APC's for diffrent skins, and make the APC's spawn cost nothing. it might seem overpowered but commander is only 3 placement limit so u can't chain anymore. goodbye luccile strat. it was an honor. like if you agree

[@pylotheric9777]

I agree on the range part but disagree on the chaining part. You can still very much chain commander

[@subnauticchad2991]

​@@pylotheric9777yea but not inf, it ends with +/- 15 secs for the next one, maybe if u time the CTA for a bit it is still possible.

[@thesmashergd2]

I thought Apc skin for different commander already have? Victorian Commander have Train Apc model

[@ritatedniega1095]

I hate that I need to max my commander, I need to get twice the amount of cash.

[@Mop_Head12]

You can still chain but only with all 3 maxed no more maxing a single one

[@Whatamidoinghere-mf4wi]

think either they give more hp to tanks or nerf apc

[@damarm.x6689]

I love old sound commander😢

[@JamLand2000]

Its sad to see new voice lines, but bloxy skin is still just "WOOOOOOOOOO" which is cool

[@MarcPare2006]

Now the Pirate skin are now worth it cuz they added his line RAAAAAAAAA!

[@Duck-Confused]

They probably removed johns voice lines because in one of johns posts, he outright claimed tds is copying his game

[@mechaniccccc]

Tds has always been copying shit how is his crybaby ass gonna get mad about that 💀💀💀

[@asmodayYT]

sweaking is so used to the commander placement cost being 650 he put that in the vid (it's 850)

[@Nickisanepicuser]

I swear to god when they say "rework" they secretly mean nerf. Look what they did to my boy. Also, rip john's voicelines, you will be missed.

[@kimonielkim3694]

Real now my rangers firate became slower

[@pylotheric9777]

Reworks don't always mean it's a buff.

[@KratosSuffering]

deserved nerf

[@luisamartinezurena1261]

Stop reworkin crap that doesnt need one and rework ones that suck like paintballer like holy shit mini and accel had like 3 reworks or more

[@mechaniccccc]

@@KratosSuffering If a nerf ruins hardcore it isn't deserved

[@purpleguyreal]

Why they remove every instance of john after TDX release? Like the skin code expire, then commander sound effect

[@Sayernal2nd]

Uh APC ability from Tower Battles fr?

[@spidercatgaming3229]

I can never listen to commander without John voice.