*NEW* Commanders could change to old logo with move to New Stadium?

Discussing the Washington Commanders stadium and logo saga
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[@estalt957]

As a Falcon Fan I would like bring back Redskins and Cleveland Indians.

[@sirchi8731]

It's up to you as the ppl.

[@jeromehoward1249]

That's what you might call, getting things back to normal!

[@kevingutierrez6845]

YES!!

[@bbb4228]

As an Indians fan, it’ll never happen. Dolan is a coward and weak owner. He cares nothing for the franchise or how poor the “rebrand” has gone.

[@peteroni21]

facts

[@jimbobmcdougal6983]

We were indeed bullied into changing. We didn’t have any choice. Nike, Amazon, and FedEx are the three I think of.

[@mrg8581]

I refuse to deal with Nike, Amazon and FedEx. They ruined pro sports

[@jimbobmcdougal6983]

@@mrg8581 I want the Reebok gear back lol. Been buying a lot of vintage stuff. Thank you eBay.

[@phillipjohnson8241]

PEPSI was involved

[@davidbaylor8]

The logo is respectful. Looks like is stoic Native American. I. Ever understood why the logo went.

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

It was modeled after the Indian (a real one) who was on the Buffalo Nickle.

[@Gage_Brumley]

I don't think the logo was ever really the problem, it was the name, which could be considered a slur. If they were called the Washington Warriors or the Washington Braves, I think they would have kept the name and logo.

[@ronniesouthern7829]

They bent the knee and they’ve been on their knees ever since

[@CPO-Snarky]

Kneeling like a Lewinski.

[@dustinsindledecker154]

Yet you bend the knee to trump

[@ronniesouthern7829]

@@dustinsindledecker154 How so? I didnt say who I voted for, which is NOT the topic of this discussion.

[@willp.8120]

The Braves would never change their name. The oldest professional franchise in major league baseball. Changing the name would be disasteous for attendance and fan support. Plus, there is nothing wrong with the name Braves.

[@MrBenitez823]

Reds are the oldest team bud. but agree with you, no way should a team change its name because of people not liking it. i want the redskins back!

[@willp.8120]

@@MrBenitez823 Bud, the Reds are the second oldest team. The original Red Stockings is not the same franchise as the one on the field today. The Braves are the longest running active franchise in MLB.

[@matthew01234]

A lot of people don't realize why they were named Redskins in the first place. They were named after a Native American tribe but the name had nothing to do with race. It was a tribe from the Virginia/West Virginia/ Washington DC area. The reason that tribe was called the Redskins is because they actually painted their faces red when they went into battles. It had nothing to do with race at all. The people who complained about it and said it was racist are the most racist people of all as well as being extremely ignorant and uneducated when it comes to the subjects they complain about. On top of that the Washington Redskins used to donate money to that tribe every single year. Now they don't because they aren't named after them anymore. The people who complained about the name actually ended up costing Native Americans a lot of money by getting the name changed. They hurt the people they claimed they were trying to help by getting the name changed. Either way the main point is the name had nothing to do with race. They were named that after a local tribe who actually painted their faces red hence the name "Redskins." Their skin was red because they painted it that way. Not because of some racial epithet.

[@j.r.bladorn4120]

Meriam-Webster Dictionary doesn't even know the true history of the word. That's ridiculous.

[@CPO-Snarky]

Great information, but those who clamored for changing the nickname are not going to let any factual information sway their agendas.

[@ronbrown7941]

The team came from Boston originally. They were called the Boston Braves in honor of the baseball team that they also shared the same stadium with. Do more research on this subject

[@matthew01234]

@@ronbrown7941 They didn't change their name to Redskins until they were in Washington. What's your point? They had a different name when they were in Boston? Of course they did.

[@bryantsteury8910]

​@@j.r.bladorn4120I honestly wonder when that became their definition. Because they've had a recent history of changing definitions under the radar to fit a current social narrative. If thats been their definition since 1960 then fine

[@williambozek5458]

I think they took away the Redskins is because of Dan Snyder himself

[@RB01.10]

Sponsors were also threatening to pull out .

[@williambozek5458]

@@RB01.10 That would make them find better sponsors

[@hogskins3043]

THANK YOU!!! I've been saying the same thing since 2020. Most close minded people will never believe that, though. They are too brainwashed by the media and believe all of the propaganda that they put out. It's finally nice to see someone else knows what's really going on.

[@hogskins3043]

​@@RB01.10Exactly!!! Because of dan synder.

[@OSUcowboycountry]

why not the Washington Warriors? The Native people who were here were brave and strong, and were willing to fight for their land. They are Warriors!

[@isaiahbradley9682]

Golden State already has that name Trademarked.

[@metsr18rhq]

Couldn't agree more about who is actually insulted by the old name. I worked with a native American. His truck reflected his heritage with lots of native American stickers. He loved the Redskins and can't stand the name change. He considered them "his team". He wears many Redskin tees and hats to this day. It was a sense of pride for him. He told me that no one in his community was ever offended and was upset at the "woke" mob who wanted to be offended for them. "Bullied" is spot on!

[@brianwhite6861]

I don't think the black lives matter movement had anything to do with the name change don't understand how they came up in this conversation I thought it was certain native Americans groups that had an issue with the name correct me if I'm wrong but I would like to see bring back the name redskins and Cleveland bring back the name Indians

[@jeremybingham7505]

DG is always speaking out his ass…

[@alextoronto5840]

@@jeremybingham7505 yeah, sometimes he's reaching big time.

[@mrg8581]

BLM and Antifa just rioted, looted and occupied buildings until they got their way. Same nonsense going on with Palestinians.

[@mikejerman1912]

The Commanders name will always serve as a reminder of what kind chaos the U.S. went through during the Swamp Administration.

[@thecoolrich]

Ironically enough, the Chicago blackhawks keep their name and logo still 😂 where the double standards

[@ronniesouthern7829]

The owners own the team. They should find their balls and name the team whatever they want.

[@luddite4change449]

They are the owners, and can certainly do that. However, that is separate from a decision of Congress to gift land owned by you and me to the district for their own use.

[@peteroni21]

i wish people weren’t so sensitive about things that they shouldn’t be. redskins was a great name with a great logo. i hope it comes back.

[@tommywagner3309]

As a person with Native American blood and heritage I loved the name and logo. I was a fan for about 40 years. What was offensive was they were losing.

[@joeylawn36111]

I can't really speak for Native Americans, but I'm sure they are more concerned about issues they are facing daily than a sports team nickname - that I believe most of them either Like or Don't Care about that nickname.

[@tommywagner3309]

@@joeylawn36111 maybe I have thicker skin than some people but me and my family loved the Redskins, we used to go to the games and met players when we were lucky.

[@dustinsindledecker154]

Can you prove that you are native American ? Because people on the Internet usually lie.

[@igolffff]

But it's believable that some people don't love it as much as you do?

[@tommywagner3309]

@@dustinsindledecker154 my family is Piscataway Indian

[@KodiakWG]

Bring back the chief

[@MrManfly]

And it’s not about being offended it’s about power! 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@pharaohosam]

"Redskins" is not a "slang term for Native Americans" lol. It's an indigenous synonym for "warrior." The term comes from their use of the bloodroot plant to paint their skin before going into battle.

[@manuelgrothe608]

Can Neo RFK Stadium be rebuilt for the National Football League’s Washington Commanders(Redskins), Major League Rugby's Old Glory DC, and United Football League's DC Defenders since the original RFK Stadium and FedEx Field gets demolished in 2026-2030?

[@GloriaGrothe]

Go Capital City

[@panowa8319]

Didn't FedEx threaten Dan Snyder that they would remove the naming rights and funds for his stadium if he did not drop the name Redskins? Now, it's ironic that the stadium no longer bears its name.

[@Patrick-hm4eg]

Didn't want their name associated with a dump of a stadium.

[@richarddash6654]

Change the name too Washington Americans and bring back the redskins logo

[@mysteryhombre81]

That's not a bad idea at all

[@zoom539]

@@mysteryhombre81 I like it

[@manuelgrothe608]

Can Neo RFK Stadium be rebuilt for the National Football League’s Washington Commanders(Redskins), Major League Rugby's Old Glory DC, and United Football League's DC Defenders since the original RFK Stadium and FedEx Field gets demolished in 2026-2030?

[@SteelRhinoXpress]

I say name them the Washington senators. That used to be Washingtons old mlb baseball team name.

[@manuelgrothe608]

@@SteelRhinoXpress Ottawa Senators NHL Team

[@hilltop8286]

Red Tails, homage to the storied Tuskegee Airmen, who's aircrafts' tails were painted a bold shade of red.

[@who.is.kswervo]

I think if push comes to shove, we can keep the name if we must, but go back to the old logo. The Chief is the "Commander" of the tribe. The logo was iconic.

[@lakerskid2013]

If they don’t go back to that logo (in order to avoid the offended by everything crowd) then they could create a new logo with something that pays homage to the commander in chief, could be something like a group of people with swords or a George Washington holding a football in one hand and a sword in another hand. Anything at this point even if what I suggested may sound cheesy would be better than what’s going on with that plain W right now.

[@user-tb8ty7mk1t]

I quite like the name Warriors, which was on the table for a short while. It could be a nod to the old name but without all the controversy.

[@MGAF688]

If the logo returned, I would accept the team again. I LOVED the logo, still do. The logo has great meaning to me as someone who is part Native - my father was born and raised on the Turtle Mt. Band of Chippewa - Ojibwe.

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

Bring back the Redskins!

[@dustinsindledecker154]

They are not being back the Redskins. Let it go!

[@JD-iu6rv]

Work an agreement with Native American tribes. The team gets it’s old logo back and the Natives maybe get free tickets to games/free food/ and merchandise

[@scawfan75]

Washington Natives, BOOM

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

Washington Warriors?

[@dustinsindledecker154]

Bring back the name but do a new logo

[@OGCHuila]

"I am Native American and had asked for the change of logo because I was offended. Said Never." But now I feel discriminated against since ya changed it because that isn't inclusive. I no longer have a team to identify with. 😜

[@raymondshrout1863]

Washington Natives is the best name they could choose. Respecting natives and bringing back the logo.

[@OTCHooly]

I agree

[@AyEoKaY247]

I think Washington Reds would be nice. they could use the yellow helmets with the R in a circle with the feathers. I think they wore it in the 70's

[@michaelleroy9281]

Cincinnati Reds would have a problem with that

[@mityace]

"Reds" is also a slang term for Communists. So, hard pass.

[@bmeister88]

Washington Natives?

[@brandondillman5841]

Makes sense. The old logo was an actual portrait of a real Native American. There was nothing racist, or even controversial about it.

[@bryantsteury8910]

That was what I thought, that it was an actual person which turned from an actual portrait to a more "easy to turn into a logo" image. And an actual person in war garb IIRC

[@brandondillman5841]

@@bryantsteury8910 imagine being told your actual face is offensive by a bunch of white people. lol. The whole thing is ridiculous.

[@raincloud5449]

I think the best thing would have the Redskins uniforms and logo come back as a throwback jersey like the Titans bring back the Oilers uniforms. I don’t think you can bring the actual name back ever again because of the backlash it would receive if it ever returned. It sucks that historic team names like the Redskins and Indians got replaced, as they’re likely never coming back. All we can really do know is do what we can to prevent other classic team names like the Chiefs, Braves, and Blackhawks fall to social pressure as well.

[@georgepress1261]

As a eagles fan. Bring back the redskins. Or atleast call then the warriors or the braves, which to my knowledge that was their name back in the 30s. But that solution would be so much better than the football or commanders mess we witnessed for 5 years. No one like the name and it have no connection to the past.

[@brotherjayblaze3947]

Dc ..or Maryland -( has more space and location ) is the BEST SPOT, keep logo chage the name

[@robertharinga8860]

In my opinion, sports teams named after Native peoples were named in honor of their brave spirit, and not meant to be racist in any way. With the exception of the previous Cleveland Indians Chief logo. I really hope that all this woke B.S. ends soon. Probably just wishful thinking though😟

[@manhattanproject231]

You ever notice why black Americans were never offended by the Redskins name? Because we know, George Preston Marshall(team owner) knew and the US government knows who the real American Indians are, us. We are aboriginal to this land, not native!!! 300,000 slaves brought to our land over 400 years is less than 800 humans a year, the math doesn’t add up. George Marshall had the mascot emblem shown on players helmets to accurately match what true American Indians look like. "Cooper-colored" people of America!!! 1828 Webster's Dictionary def. of an American. Read it.

[@albertmiller2electricbooga897]

what is blud on about

[@FourthDown]

We wuz schizopost

[@JimHawkwind03411]

They should go with an Ancient Greek or Roman mythology theme, which is rare among pro sports teams (Titans, Kraken, Senators, etc.).

[@RunningThruLife]

Please bring back our beloved logo

[@hogskins3043]

I find it hilarious when people get in the comments saying the Redskins name and logo will NEVER EVER return. Like you know exactly what's going on behind the scenes. You are NOT rubbing elbows with the owners. All you can do is speculate. As for me, I think it's very possibly that we get the name and logo back. From all of the things that have been going on since the Harris group has takin over, I will not be surprised in the least, if we get the name and logo back.

[@tleoipl37]

I want Washington Redhawks like the blitz the league game lol

[@jimbobmcdougal6983]

The Chiefs chant/cadence should’ve been in the spotlight 😂😭

[@ncdad1995]

The Redskins name and long trademark was revoked. Basically anyone legally use them it to make merchandise.

[@RailsandStadiums]

I wish they'd pick a name closer to Redskins like Guardians is to Indians. Back when they were taking suggestions I submitted Residents. It pays tribute to the original residents of DC- the Native Americans, as well as the "taxation without representation " residents. It keeps the HTTR chant and the R logo plus it's as close to Redskins as you can get.

[@josephfunches-green2458]

Eagles fan, bring back the old logo and call them the warriors.

[@hektorlinko]

I hope they bring back the logo. I'm part Cherokee Indian on my moms side and I was okay with the Redskins but yeah....I get it. Just bring the logo back at least...I'm all in for this team.

[@CPO-Snarky]

As a nod towards our cadre of political leaders, the team should re-brand as the "CLOWNS".

[@carelessdev2084]

I love your ideas and perception on the name change ideas and logo and understand where the shift of the conversation is going. but as a Cherokee American I will say… Honor the teams name and heritage and Native American heritage with an UPLIFTING name such as the Warriors, or Even simply AMERICANS. Keep the historical symbolism, all while starting a new era of Washington Football we can all be on board with and proud of. Let’s honor the history of the team and location in order to gratify the AMERICANS not the just the TEAM and ESPECIALLY not the ownership or NFL. We can all be warriors regardless of color or name. Could possibly do a modern throwback feel with the logo w/ the feathers and number marks but bring in a new team name that’s amazing and one america can be proud of as well as one that will transcend the future, honor the past while leading us forward out of the past for the present and the future.

[@GamePlayWithOutRage]

the Washington commanders using the old logo makes sense because they have a chief on their logo and chiefs commands people to do stuff

[@91_C4_FL]

Bring back the old name, call the new stadium “Native People’s Stadium”, and make it a monument to all the native peoples of the US. Honor them at every home game. And give all the remaining tribes a stake in the team.

[@javiermarius9475]

And besides the hog mascot is perfect it would have been the mascot if had appeared during the original name at that time.

[@1987bch]

My prediction is they will change the colors to red, white, and blue to go along with the other DC teams and have a logo that will make them more like the Patriots 2.0

[@Gage_Brumley]

There's already way too many red white and blue NFL teams. Patriots, Giants, Bills, Texans, Titans, etc

[@lunielouie]

I can see them calling the stadium @ 8:38 "The Pringle"

[@OneDrewThree]

I still wouldn't mind Washington Red Tails. They shoulda just gone with that instead of Commanders lol

[@stephengrinkley9889]

As a long-time REDSKINS fan, I say bring back the logo, and do a fan poll to change the name to another name that honors Indigenous Americans. I wouldn't mind Warriors.

[@Arkie087]

Washington Tribe or Natives would be good

[@richardcheng3288]

Red Wolves sounds nice.

[@sportsmaster1364]

Selfishly I still wish they'd rename the team to the Washington Sentinels. I'm a nostalgia nut, and The Replacements was such an awesome movie.

[@retrowarehouse2554]

Just bring back the Redskins name as well because the name was never named for racial reasons, it was named after a tribe in the area.

[@kathyferreira7666]

in my opinion Thay should bring back the old logo but with a new name that honors native American history. my idea is the Washinton Potomacs

[@derfollaw]

sediment or sentiment?

[@frcclub7994]

REDWOLVES WOULD ROCK MAKE THE NAME REDWOLVES!!!!!!😀🏈

[@adriangrayson]

The name redskins is offensive and it had been talked about being offensive for years. But I had heard the logo was blessed by the tribe of the guy they modeled it after. So a good compromise would have been just to name them Washington or Washington FT and then just keep the logo. Teams don’t need official nicknames.

[@boTCavalry]

The Commies will never bring back the old racist logo, despite the rumor that it was created by a Native American.

[@cmdrflake]

Northern Virginia is not going to be the site of the Commanders new home as the cost of land there is outrageous. It’s all committed to very high cost development. Great for extreme price homes, office buildings bad for a stadium used only 9 to 10 times by the Commanders.

[@RT88414]

As a Cowboys fan, I want to see Washington bring back the name Washington Redskins. Since they were forced to change their name to the Washington Football Team and then to now as the Washington Commanders, that rivalry between Dallas and Washington just isn’t the same anymore. It was an iconic rivalry between Cowboys and Indians and Washington should give the die hard Washington fans what they want and bring back the name Washington Redskins and bring back their old uniforms and the logo.

[@manuelgrothe608]

Can Neo RFK Stadium be rebuilt for the National Football League’s Washington Commanders(Redskins), Major League Rugby's Old Glory DC, and United Football League's DC Defenders since the original RFK Stadium and FedEx Field gets demolished in 2026-2030?

[@javiermarius9475]

If the logo is return and the name should change, then its name should be Warriors. It was suppose to be that name and not Commanders, that name wasn’t trademarked at all!

[@msc32511]

I’ve never understood the big uproar of changing the team names. It effects none of you one single bit. Who cares, I liked the Houston Oilers and their uniforms. It was changed and I didn’t die.

[@TyrellDunn]

More news on my Commanders 😁

[@theFORCEismyallie]

I have no problem with them going back to the old logo. The logo didn't offend me... The name "Redskins" did. It won't matter what they do they'll still lose to the Dallas Cowboys!!! 😅😅😅😂

[@lunielouie]

YES! I had no problem with the logo at all. Completely respectful.

[@user-xe2yy1rj4v]

Would love to see the name Redskins return. But I doubt it. However may I suggest the washington warriors

[@ECG3485]

Perhaps they should rebrand to the Senators, as a nod to the old pre-1972 MLB franchise

[@MegaSlowe]

I would instantly become a huge fan of the Washington Whiteys. Instead of, "Hail to the Redskins," it would be, "Hail to the Whiteys." It would be an epic fight song. 🎶 Hail to the Whiteys. Hail victory. Whites on the warpath. Fight for ole DC!🎶

[@Pepisthe1]

😂😂

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

As a white person I say, ha ha.

[@briseisjay7898]

I was lmao when he said “Whiteys” 😂 I don’t mind if they bring back the old logo & maybe change the name. Cuz the old logo is iconic.

[@jwbogacki]

If not the redskins, i liked the redtails or the hogs.

[@Patrick-hm4eg]

Hogs would offend PETA and probably Muslims.

[@Kenadams240]

Bring back the Cleveland Indians

[@Thesportscardchannelandmore21]

I want the commanders at the RFK Site

[@JDRusse11]

The Washington Commanders sound like a bloody XFL team, aka the DC Defenders 😂 🏈

[@johnck6259]

"Redskins" is in the dictionary as a slur. It meant "bloody Indian scalps" during a massive genocidal area. Plus, droves of American Indians protested it for longer than 26 years. If they sincerely view it as a slur against their culture, that is enough for a change. Not all American Indians take offense to "Redskins", but none of them will get negative impacts from its removal. Being named after a tribe would be better than "Redskins". Some examples: Washington Cayuse, Washington Jemez, Washington Pomo, Washington Pueblos.

[@MrMarkiemark67]

I have a book about the 1972 team and in it they mention that a group of Native American activists met with Edward Bennett Williams and requested he change the name. He refused that but did have some of the lyrics to the fight song changed. There have been many articles over the years about Native Americans on both sides of the issue but the idea that there is only a controversy because of white liberals in recent years is completely false.

[@retrogaminggenesis6102]

They never will, but to see the Indians and Redskins to back to their old ways would be really amazing.

[@kennyf20735]

Yet the Chiefs and the Seminoles got to keep their names

[@anthonytitone]

Just use the real name of a tribe & nobody will get upset, just like FSU does. Washington Wampanoags with the old logo sounds perfect to me

[@havokan45]

Change the name to Warriors and bring back that old logo would be perfect i think the W W could work

[@shrek5277]

Meet with Tribe councils establish a new connection and let the tribes pick a name that everyone can vote on. The logo was never a problem from the vast majority - neither was the name really if you look at the american indians numbers opinions on it. = thats why you never had hundreds of protesters at Washington / Chiefs games in hot bed majority tribal areas eg Arizona. Keep logo - let the tribes pick a few team names = let everyone vote on the final team name?

[@nikm4253]

Bring back the Washington Potomacs name from the old negro baseball league. That name can honor the players in that league as well as the native American history of the area.

[@boTCavalry]

Are there any other presidential pets to name the team after?

[@58twright]

Id love a new rfk stadium

[@wastesometimewithaverage-hc2fb]

The Football Team was the greatest name ever

[@metsandjetsfan5174]

Stallions (keeping the Colts DMV legacy alive), Sentinels (after the movie The Replacements) Warriors make sense or maybe the Red Knights will do

[@mrcssylvester]

A vote was taken and the name Red Wolves won. What the the Snyder regime do...named the team the Commanders. I'd love Redskins or Red Wolves...

[@zch7491]

DG wants to **CANCEL** the commanders?

[@pandaguy1368]

If we're gonna come back with the logo we might as well come back fully with the name as well. If not. Just don't come back at all

[@ACLawrence476]

Warriors or Generals would be good names.

[@joeylawn36111]

Not 'Generals' IMO, but only because the Washington Generals are a basketball team that serves as an opponent for the Harlem Globetrotters, and usually lose to the latter.

[@ACLawrence476]

@@joeylawn36111 I forgot about that. I think Warriors would probably be the best choice.

[@timothyholland2927]

@@ACLawrence476Can’t use that name either Golden State Warriors own the trademark.

[@ACLawrence476]

@@timothyholland2927they probably wouldn’t use Warriors anyway given from what I’ve read. Some consider that offensive too. Some think it’s to close to a Native American reference.

[@dennis2782]

Either Original Name Boston BRAVES 1932 or Go back to Washington Football Team......I think we all liked it!!

[@timothyhenry5454]

How about the Washington Diplomats

[@mysteryhombre81]

That sucks.

[@sheldonfranklin4485]

Yes!!

[@CurtisDavis-qe3mb]

#OhGoodnessMeHere!

[@AZLANKHAN003]

Washington Football Team in Maryland

[@liv1d359]

It’s either gonna be the admirals or the redskins again

[@MannyLoxx2010]

I want to see the Redskins and Indians come back!! F*** Wokeness and Political Correctness!!

[@_sniper2305]

I always felt it was odd that, when it came down to political correctness, the most politically connected city had the most politically incorrect name! I could give up on Redskins if they could come up with a better name. Not sure what that better name is though. It's definitely not Commanders, and not Red Wolves either. Maybe something regional? IDK. Old Redskins logo really wouldn't make sense if they are staying away from being called Redskins. Could go with the same logo but the "R" in the circle ... or maybe not. IDK. Current logo looks like bent sheetmetal. Old RFK site is a sweet site to get back to, for multiple reasons. My $0.02.

[@isaiahbradley9682]

Washington RedHawks? Or WarHawks? I still prefer Redwolves or Redskins. It was a bunch of nothing coming from people acting like they want to make a difference by forcing and bullying people into changing things IMHO, I mean but it is what it is at this point. All I can say is I would add the feathers to the W and put that baby in a circle as a way to honor the old but embrace the new.