New Cycle Bridge in The Hague

[788] The Jan Linzelviaduct is a bridge for walking and cycling across the A4 motorway. It connects The Hague with its suburb Ypenburg. More information in the blog post: bicycledutch.wordpress.com/?p...

[@respectedgentleman4322]

Another gem to the collection of Dutch cycling infrastructure.

[@mwarnas]

Yes and it only took 9 years and 12 million!

[@LittleBunny1988]

No, not really. A cyclist is not a car. As a cyclist I love freedom, independence and taking the fastest route: why would I be bothered with going around a stupid roundabout instead of taking the fastest way: shortcutting it. This is a great example of implementing 'car-oriented-solutions' on cyclists... Only nice thing is that it takes down speed, therefore it's even better to see that people cross it on both sides when there is no opposing traffic. Nobody wants to stop pedalling when cycling on a slope. It's more of an inconvenient obstacle, in my opinion.

[@Cl0ckcl0ck]

@@mwarnas The time was wasted. The money mostly just got pumped around in the Dutch economy. It only cost us the imported stuff, a few tons of iron and concrete and some hours from workers from our fellow EU countries (that we want to help develop anyway). It was worth every bit of effort. Just the kids now being allowed to cycle to attraction park Drievliet will be worth it in economic growth.

[@Cl0ckcl0ck]

@@LittleBunny1988 It's a 'speedbump' so the elderly on electric bikes don't crash into the barriere a bit further from the bridge. Always consider the most vulnerable in solutions. Guys like you will just break the roundabout/traffic rules and turn hard right from the bridge (against traffic) anyway.

[@dasy2k1]

Indeed the only similar bridge I can think of in the UK would be the cycle bridge over the railway in Cambridge

[@Fluffy_Vizier]

The fence doesn't protect you from traffic. It protects traffic from you. It is to prevent people jumping or throwing objects onto traffic.

[@florian0311]

in case you crash with another cyclist it also protects you, because you can't fall over it.

[@LazyDaisyDay88]

Well I love the solar tree! How creative.

[@yash1152]

yeah i agree. i mean it doesnt has much functional effect on me, but yeah, it puts a smile on my face too (however li'l it can be - imagining the scenario when i got used to seeing it) and thhat tbh, is more than enough :) li'l things that make u smile and give u joy

[@yash1152]

@@dimrrider9133 saying to whom? and also, i dont get what spoled means?

[@yash1152]

@@dimrrider9133 okay (i was gonna use the smiley, but that may indicate i am also laughing at them... so wont use it)

[@siccodewilt1]

I am looking at it right now. I can see it from my bedroom window :)

[@LazyDaisyDay88]

@@dimrrider9133 No it wasn't! That was a genuine comment! I LIKE the tree. Maybe ask me what I meant next time...

[@tarquinmidwinter2056]

Lovely bridge. I'd like to see a shot of it at night with the lighting on.

[@siccodewilt1]

I can go get you one. Its a 2 minute ride for me :3

[@benterry2681]

From the UK it's crazy to see something made with any level of forethought. I mean LED lighting, a forgiving curb, sensible design choices and for example the solar tree can be functional and look good.

[@edmundzed9870]

Don't know, it seems that they are not pointing to the sun and some are in the shade of others. Never mind, money is no object, we can always raise the taxes again

[@benterry2681]

@@edmundzed9870 It doesn't matter since they only need to power LED lights on the bridge, even on the most cast over day will make enough for this application. It's not about the cost of the design, it really has little materials other than the sculptures that a normal paths have just actual thought has gone into the design of this. Wan't less tax, rethink the welfare system a huge amount of money spent on paying people not to work to have it better than minimum wage.

[@edmundzed9870]

@@benterry2681 Wasting money always does matter especially when it is our tax payers money. Next, if I should suggest something about the welfare system, no doubt there again will be someone to tell me I should look elsewhere to save tax money. So lets stick to subject.

[@benterry2681]

@@edmundzed9870 you changed the subject from design to budget so how about you do your best to stick to the subject. This design literally costs no more than existing shit designs except for the actual components have been properly thought out is all its not rocket science, every modern bridge needs lighting, paths, guttering only thing here is those components aren't just requirements shoved together but rather acutally thought out how these items can be seamless and neutral. Reason I mention welfare is because it's literally tax payer money being given to those who don't pay tax, I'd take an improved city over that any day. tbh I give up with you, you can win a game of chess with a pigeon but it will still strut around and shit on the table like it won.

[@gwho]

@@benterry2681 no one changed the subject from design to budget. the topic was always this bridge, and the budget of the bridge is part of the topic.

[@marcelmoulin3335]

Mooi gedaan! Nederland is een paradijs voor fietsers! Having grown up in the US and lived in the UK for 31 years, I recently returned to the fatherland. Without doubt, the Netherlands has brilliant bicycling infrastructure that Americans, British, and others could replicate if they had the will.

[@MichielKlaver]

They can just order all of the available knowledge and manuals at CROW.nl and start applying

[@infj4w511]

I so love that solar panel tree piece of art!

[@maxwellbald5016]

I rode this bridge a few weeks ago on my biking trip across Germany to the beach in the Hague! It's on the cycling route from Rotterdam and was a neat bridge to ride across!

[@Cl0ckcl0ck]

We are going to dominate German cycle infrastructure by first pulling loads of Germans in. We want the kids from Düsseldorf and Cologne to cycle safely to a North Sea beach and a beach camping on their own in 3 easy days (60km/day) along the Rhine. Good for our tourism, good for German kids to learn being independent in a save environment.

[@jentulj9611]

One thing the Dutch do best is design. The country is clean, tidy and beautiful. It surprises me neighbouring countries like Germany and Belgium are not copying from the Dutch so they could make things better. Is it ego or they just can't see the wonderful infrastructure that the Dutch have been creating for decades. One would have thought it would have been easier for states like NRW just across the border in Germany would have the same infrastructure.

[@Jan_Pan]

I live here and I mainly use this bridge to rollerskate and it is lovely. You are right in saying the roundabout is a bit much as I have never seen it that busy there.

[@trilingualfudge7307]

i feel like half of Bicycle Dutch's comments are always either "Im a Dutch person, we have amazing cycling stuff/ i never really realised how special we were" and comparing it to their own cities/ countries or whatever- even ive done this lol

[@Abraksas112]

I'm dutch but moved to Germany 20 years ago. Never realized how good we have it in the Netherlands until my first day in Germany xD. Often you only realize how special things are until you lose it ;)

[@trilingualfudge7307]

@@Abraksas112 yup

[@Cl0ckcl0ck]

Yeah, but how is that bad? At least we get happy from real achievement and not from a flag or some sport- or entertainment-person.

[@trilingualfudge7307]

@@Cl0ckcl0ck damn bro, my comment was an obsevation, as i said, i did that myself so i'm not rlly complaining

[@Cl0ckcl0ck]

@@trilingualfudge7307 Sorry, drinking and commenting don't mix well......and sometimes I get nasty too..... mea culpa.

[@cryptodutch1949]

I love this country for so many reasons. This - is one of them. This video is a beautiful showcase of a delicate mix of stakes and values that are carefully defined and organized by formidable designers that know what’s up, and came up with this gem. It’s got it ALL: Focus on safety (value) defines the problem and shapes the solution. I view this bridge elegant, stylish, innovative (bicycle roundabout anyone?) effective (although that’s a somewhat speculative statement). It’s got art WHICH IS ALSO FUNCTIONAL by the way, it’s self-sustaining, it encourages fitness and prevents pollution. There was tax money to pay it It got executed Nobody died during construction Everybody made some money Everybody happy And I just smoked some weed. 😄 10/10 Hello Dutch friends! -> P.S. inkakken is bijpakken!

[@Cl0ckcl0ck]

Guess who got another medal? www.unicef.org/press-releases/worlds-richest-countries-grappling-childrens-reading-and-math-skills-mental-well "New report ranks the Netherlands, Denmark and Norway the best among EU and OECD countries for child wellbeing; and highlights substantial threats to child well-being due to the COVID-19 pandemic 03 September 2020" We might be slightly insane but we ain't no fools!

[@gwho]

it got executed in 9 years. and cost 12 million........

[@jooproos6559]

@@gwho And in what time others bridges got executed????

[@mariadej.torresdelatorre1345]

Thanks for share this wonderful vídeos, it is so relaxing to enjoy them, netherlands always improving their cycling phats.

[@stephenyates962]

The bridge looks amazing. If only such infrastructure existed in the UK... Also, the clam soothing voice-over fits so well

[@christill]

Meanwhile, in my town right now the drivers are trying to get a temporary bike lane (which mainly consists of flexible stick bollards) removed immediately after it officially opens. It’s not really even good by modern standards, but we have to defend it because it’s become a referendum on bikes effectively. The UK is a 3rd world country at this point for sure. I mean I don’t know what else to say. It’s beyond insane when you see how much further the Dutch are sprinting ahead.

[@Abraksas112]

Sounds like Germany, maybe even Düsseldorf?

[@Anakianaj]

To be fair, the very fact that there is a referendum on bike lanes is a rather clear sign that the UK is very far from being a 3rd world country. If you think about it, it is a luxury problem. -- Which is absolutely not saying that it's unimportant. Quite the contrary.

[@christill]

Anakiana We’re on our way if we don’t start prioritising bikes and public transport now. I can’t see it happening soon enough. People are still in 1960s transport mindset.

[@christill]

Avenged84 I’d be shocked if Germany is as stupid as we are.

[@Abraksas112]

​@@christill well, prepare to be shocked. We probably are worse than the UK :P

[@MrAronymous]

Love the new camera quality. The framerate sometimes seems to be a bit off though?

[@miljantrajkovic1862]

Probably because of slow-motion effect.

[@davidhansson7041]

Its the guardrails. It brings the frame rate way down. Look up Tom Scott’s video on confetti in videos.

[@bikezonasul]

Quando a criatividade holandesa não tem limites! Parabéns aos engenheiros pela belíssima obra! 🚲

[@peterjones3557]

Absolutely amazing! Incandescent with envy.

[@Olieman2012]

Excellent piece of extra infrastructure: both form and function are great.

[@Aprill264]

Beautiful bridge Also cycle roundabouts are really interesting to me so I like that this bridge has one

[@lordjace]

Blaze064 well, this one sucks. Taking this, otherwise great route daily, since it stars at my home, and goes directly to my office, the roundabout is a waste of money, since it’s virtually impossible to circle, and going the wrong way just feels so much more natural.

[@Aprill264]

@@lordjace yeah, it is pretty useless, I still think they are interesting though

[@iraeaglemind]

Looks nice and well built!!!

[@amcaesar]

This is great looking infrastructuur!

[@joopiedelange8463]

We pay enough for that!!

[@mfaizsyahmi]

You have calm and interesting Dutch intonation in your voice, very sooting to listen to. Less so the drone noise of the highways. I hope the video framerates could be consistent throughout though.

[@BicycleDutch]

I stopped filming in 4K, my computer cannot handle it.

[@paqliam]

I like to go to sleep to bicycles dutch's voice talking about dutch cycling infrastucture

[@nenaddjelekar1798]

Another cycling planet...

[@lvero5527]

¡Que sana envidia se siente de estas infraestructuras desde España!!!!

Sevilla es un ejemplo que un cambio hacia más infraestructura de bici es posible en España también 👍

[@lvero5527]

@ Sí, así está siendo, como Victoria, Barcelona y alguna más. En cambio en Madrid capital, es el modelo CALZADISTA CC30 el que se sigue impulsando desde las instituciones. Una pérdida de tiempo!

[@CasperGamess]

i am dutch and The Netherlands spends a lot on roads, so they are safe and beautiful and clean

[@pinpoint3770]

I have to check that bridge out !

[@robtyman4281]

The Dutch are light years ahead (excuse the pun) compared with us in the UK. I can't even imagine a cycle bridge this advanced being built in the UK.......maybe in 15 years from now, but both local and national government will always have excuses as to why they don't have the money to build such bridges. The 'will' from those in positions of power (whether at local level or nationally) just isn't there. The Dutch decided man many years ago that they would take a responsible, grown up attitudes towards cycling, and those who cycle, and invest in a proper cycle infrastructure. Years later they are reaping the benefits many times over. Us meanwhile (in the UK) can only dream about things like this bridge....or those 'elevated cycle only roundabouts'. Eventually they may appear in the UK, but we're talking many years away here - not something which I cans see happening within the next five years. Sad, but the UK still doesn't take cycling or cyclists seriously enough. I'm not being pessimistic here, just realistic. But I know that attitudes towards cyclists will be alot more like those of the Dutch, eventually. Even if it takes another 20 years.

[@AndriiMartynenko]

Great, just great.

[@popatop75]

thank you again

[@chl.vid1]

Sana all

[@paolopetrozzi2213]

Thanks.

[@bobdinwiddy]

the "shielding" is to prevent missiles being dropped onto passing traffic: an historic problem along this section of the A4... it is a LONG way from the motorway exit to any of the footbridges if you want to chase after the kids throwing stuff off...!!!

[@frankhooper7871]

I can't quite see the point of the roundabout at the t-junction either. Is there a reason the mesh is clear on one side and patterned on the other?

[@peter1062]

From the blog post: "On the south-west side of the bridge the mesh is partly closed. This makes a lot of sense when you know that the prevailing wind direction in the Netherlands is south-west. The partly closed panels shield people from the wind." Yes, they really think things through over here.

[@fryfrysk]

It will be a multi juction : the sand bed is already in place as is the bended railing : phase 2 so to speak.

[@simonkraemer3725]

I personally think that roundabouts don't really work with bikes because the radius is too sharp and cyclists are better in naviigating who comes first at their own, or with simple priority markings

[@evdweide]

@@simonkraemer3725 It's good to force them to slow down at intersections, especially as one side is driving down a slope and thus speeding up a lot.

[@kjeldsloot]

@@evdweide I can't even ride this mini roundabout with my cycle. It is to long and wide. That is another problem.

[@bosnahYUG]

i live here hahahahaha i drive a bike for 14 years here but i did not even knew it was done at all even the building. there is 500 meter next to it another bridge that goes the same way across the highway

[@sundok1]

TIS PRACHTUG. ALLE HAGENESEN OP HET FIETSJUH KOMOP!!!!

[@Rakehell007]

Meanwhile in Belgium: derp derp...

[@leojonkers3181]

The bridge over the A15, from Rotterdam South to Smitshoek ( and a big area with lots of small in towns) is really beautiful, a architectural masterpiece. It is called De " Groene Verbinding ". www.google.com/maps/place/De+%22+Groene+Verbinding+%22/@51.825429,4.4760178,12.1z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x98709dd43a5f88e3!8m2!3d51.8629073!4d4.4652611?hl=nl The bridge you showed us is just a bridge. Good for bicycle infrastructure, but very boring to look at.

[@stan5155]

Will you be making a video on the new cycle bridge that was placed in Eindhoven last week?

[@peterslegers6121]

I'm sure he will. ^^ For now you can watch the archived live feed of the placing of the cyclebridge Tegenbosch: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH6Zo4Bop51qipo (8 hours 40 minutes long!)

[@ThermoMan]

16 lanes of road!

[@taerial879]

Yep! Today The Netherlands is becoming a more and more a car-centric country: about 10 million cars, the Max "Formel-1" Verstappen hysteria is still growing, more and more boys and men on lady-bikes (= lack of cycling skills), and even riding a bike with a (holy) helmet lobbyists exist...

[@peterslegers6121]

@@taerial879 The amount of cars is still growing... was it 8,5 million or some? About 14% of households don't have a car; a growing number has 2 or more cars...

[@mauricej8747]

I pass this bridge on a weekly basis, strange how fast you get used....

[@metallitech]

Good to see no solar roadway :)

[@Cl0ckcl0ck]

That was a horrible idea! :)

[@gwho]

1:15 what's the point of having different visibility on different sides?

[@theGoogol]

#NotJustBikes would love this

[@wimahlers]

Which confused architect thought that roundabout obstacle just before the bridge was a good idea? Addendum I noticed this roundabout is mentioned in the bicycledutch.wordpress link too.

[@Stefan-fv7yj]

i cycle there everyday, and it has become a multi-junction with bicycle lanes from 4 directions joining threre on the roundabout. Everything is well thought through here :) even in advance.

[@wimahlers]

@@Stefan-fv7yj Every small suburb intersection has 4 directions. And all birectional cyclepaths crossing other bidirectional cyclepaths have 4 directions. None of these 2 mentioned examples have a planter (=plantenbak) in the middle. So why is there a specific need for a roundabout with a planter for this specific location? What makes it different?

[@Stefan-fv7yj]

​@@wimahlers probably because the cyclists are going downhill from the bridge and therefore have more speed , whilst the other two lane directions are slanting up. that combined with the impaired visibility because of the fence leads me to believe they put a roundabout there due to safety.

[@wimahlers]

@@Stefan-fv7yj So the cyclists can now do the cycling equivalent of this, see: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nn2tk2CnmZ6ZsM0

[@barrywever9984]

Ik moet die brug maar een keertje nemen denk ik, ziet er een stuk beter uit dan die verderop bij het adostadion

[@jeroenjansen2709]

With public facilities like this, the Netherlands is light years ahead of any aftican country, even South Africa, where politicians just grab the public money and run away with it.

[@yash1152]

1:52 rainwater collection 2:10 i dont get what the previous route was! was it like cycling to the roundabout in the road and then cycle back on the other side?? (i hope this makes sense)

[@Cl0ckcl0ck]

goo.gl/maps/o9k4MpXGsEpVGgwVA The old route was 350 metres to the southwest. So the cyclepath (named 'Ringelwikke') along the motorway is new too (and 350 meters long).

[@yash1152]

@@Cl0ckcl0ck thanks for the input and also including the link :) i am maybe too dumb at the moment though

[@Cl0ckcl0ck]

@@yash1152 You're welcome. Many people need a map to get a clear picture of the situation. That's why I looked it up myself. :)

[@galihputrai7882]

Please make video about bicycle infrastructures in Jakarta, Bandung, and Yogyakarta city...🙏🏼

[@zhekunenko]

super

[@yessin6568]

In Utrecht hebben wij de Rabo brug ✌️

[@weenisw]

The price tag of 12m€ is included in the video. I’m curious what a typical car bridge would cost for this span as comparison. I’m estimating that it would be significantly more.

[@Cl0ckcl0ck]

They had already spend at least double of that just talking about it for a decade with only waste paper and wasted hours as a result.

[@peter1062]

12 million sounds like much, but how much would it cost NOT to build it? People on bicycles are people not in cars. What would be the cost if these people were forced back into their cars?

[@garyburk3760]

That would take probably 20 years or more to get built in the US and cost about 4 times more.

[@gwaptiva]

I remember when this was an airport ...

[@bambakz]

you should visit the new cyclist bridge thats being installed atm in EIndhoven. It spans the A2 & N2.

[@AndreSomers]

@@dimrrider9133 It has special lighting that will visually follow cyclists on it on the outside. Nice gimmick as Eindhoven is the home of Philips (though the lighting devision is now Signify) and know as the "light city" in the Netherlands.

[@peterslegers6121]

@@dimrrider9133 Cycle bridge Tegenbosch: goo.gl/maps/K6d36pm3128MoXZe6 watch the archived placing of the bridge (8 hours 40 mins long).

[@SandroAntonucci87]

9 years?

[@David-bi6lf]

Would never get built in the UK, it fails to live up to such high British standards including but not limited to: Too wide, conflict between cyclists and pedestrians is essential. Too expensive, only those paying mythical road tax can have this much money spent on them. No 180 degree on the spot turns at either end. Multiple are preferred. 360 degree if possible. It has clear well surfaced separation. Conflict inducing shared use is preferred. It has no anti cycle and anti disability barriers and does not expect cyclists to dismount.

[@nlbergsma]

A nice example of British biting irony :-)

[@adelinachiriac2034]

This comment made my day 😂

[@dasy2k1]

Sounds about right. Well unles you are in one of the 2 cities that actually cares about cyclists. The Cambridge railway bridge is very similar to this and very effective.... But that's is Cambridge which when it comes to cycle infrastructure is trying its hardest to punt itself across the sea into Holland.

[@richardlane9268]

@@dasy2k1 which is the second city that cares about cyclists?

[@dasy2k1]

@@richardlane9268 the other university city (at least in the centre)

[@leotard2536]

Would it not be cheaper to make a well-light tunnel under the motorway?

[@markovermeer1394]

Building under existing highways is also expensive and complex. Besides: people feel much safer on a bridge when it is dark.

[@Lunavii_Cellest]

Its more expensive and would take more mainanance and a lot more energy and is a lot more ugly and less nice to cycle in

[@Materials_Science]

Good question, tunnels are almost always more expensive than bridges because you're basically still bilding the bridge deck but must also build extensive,watertight floors and walls and remove all material you're not using. Tunnels are sometimes cheaper when you're for example crossing a railway because railways are pretty high so you need smaller ramps when you go underneath them instead.

[@justaboi4791]

Definitely should have fern or some other greenery grown over the fences for beauty and more sound and pollution isolation from the cars

[@nvwest]

Oh the roundabout is indeed a bit much. Also you want to pick up speed for the hill

[@Ben-uk5gf]

Dit doet me sterk denken aan Rail Away. XD

[@taerial879]

However, when Rail Away show trains in NL, they skip (censor) everything regarding cycling: no bike-parkings at trainstations are shown, no info about subject bicycle/train use (rare in the world), no cycling Dutch people on the background, etc. The Netherlands: a country with roads for cars and railways....

[@dorsettyke]

I may have to stop watching Bicycle Dutch videos. I want to cry now, when I think of the way British cyclists are treated and the poor infastructure that we waste money on!

[@simonsundkvist9491]

how did i get here

[@TotalJustinGaming]

On those sunday i rather go througj the tunnel then over the baking asphalt

[@bojack40]

Why not add a little green? Maybe a canopy of vines or trees?

[@Cl0ckcl0ck]

Why? It would cost a lot and just be harmful and expensive to maintain. Why not go around wearing potted plants on you head and in all your pockets?

[@Lunavii_Cellest]

@@Cl0ckcl0ck you do know a lot of streets in the netherlands have trees next to it and bushes and trees are expected when they build something

[@mywaveinwoodswoodperfumes]

we don’t have these in the uk , i need to move to 🇩🇪

[@hansd3295]

to germany ?

[@Lunavii_Cellest]

they also don't have these in germany

[@georgesbv1]

I can't really understand the solar tree: Netherlands has poor sunshine hours and then stores energy into batteries?

[@Michiel_de_Jong]

I guess it's about being energy neutral,.. so,.. no storage..... but still,.. it might be a little bit overdone...

[@georgesbv1]

@@Michiel_de_Jong you cannot be neutral at night without batteries, although then there is usually a large amount of unused energy

[@Michiel_de_Jong]

@@georgesbv1 | 'Energy neutral' measured over the period of one year.... The grid is everywhere in the Netherlands,.. so I don't expect the energy to be stored..... Politics have a lot to do with it.... here we always need coalitions to accomplice anything.... wheeling-dealing-pulling-pushing-negotiating-compromising... The end result; .. a bridge, energy neutral, but not too expensive, therefore no energy storage."

[@burgerpommes2001]

Better than lying cables from the grid to the bridge

[@topcat8804]

We are so far behind the rest of Europe, it's depressing

[@type17]

Infrastructure pron...

[@michelium106]

The other reason why fences on more bridges over that stretch of A4 motorway are high is because some useless shit people threw rocks and stuff onto the motorway..

[@Bourrin4XL]

Dat zie ik zeker nooit in Frankrijk, alles werd and blijft voor auto's gedaan...

[@phil_the_explorer3068]

16 car lanes 🙈

[@khazarhay]

david attenborough

[@Adrenaline_chaser]

Well this bridge is undoubtedly beutyful... But having a SIXTEEN LANE motorway isn't that sustainable or green😬🤦🏽‍♂️. Wasn't expecting this from The Hague itself, out of all the places 🤦🏽‍♂️🫠 Also, 12 million for a cycling bridge is simply too much!

[@gwho]

12 million euro for a bridge. is there no simpler, cheaper way?

[@GreenJimll]

Nice looking bridge, but 12million Euros? Blimey! The chance of us getting such segregated cycling infrastructure over here in the UK is going to be pretty slim (certainly outside London). A railway preservation group I've been involved with for years got a new railway bridge built over the existing Midland Mainline in the UK and that cost less than £3m. A rail over rail bridge would need to be considerably stronger (and thus more expensive) than a bike/foot over road bridge I would have thought. So I'm rather surprised at the high price tag, unless it had to include land purchase for the approach routes too.

[@cliostronk2667]

There can be many reasons to explain the difference, first one that comes to mind is size. This bridge has to cross 16 (!) highway lanes. The bridge is 335 m long and 3,5 m wide. That would make the cost a little over €10 000/m2 (slightly less, because there are also costs for linking the bridge with existing infrastructure). What would the cost per m2 be for this railroadbridge?

[@japieb]

So there's a separated bicycle path 350 meters further away and they have built a bicycle bridge costing 12 millions euro. Hello Belgian government, take a look at our neighbours please

[@Cl0ckcl0ck]

The path that's there is very bad. This bridge is a monument of joy. You replace 2000 moments of darkness and despair with 2000 moments of pure freedom every day. How is that not worth €1000,- any day? Cyclist going to and from The Hague centre replace 3 km of their daily commute with nature. We're all in it together you know. The fog/dew/mist/rijp/etc on the fields in early winter will make loads of people very happy.

[@japieb]

@@Cl0ckcl0ck I agree that the old path looks dodgy

[@rikleferink]

Lmao this roundabout, who was on drugs this time

[@ffortissimo]

It's a T-junction. When they come down on the bike, they will go fast, try to avoid them when joining from the side. This way all must slow down first.

[@grandiloquent-insipid]

I want it to be in Omsk city

[@peterslegers6121]

Omsk is een mooie stad, maar net iets te ver weg. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aojFloNoptZ-m9U Sorry, had to post that Dutch cultural reference. A line from a song by Heinz Polzer (drs. P.).

[@nicolasblume1046]

16 LANES on the A4 motorway! It's weird how the Netherlands are so good in building great cycling infrastructure and have traffic calming and car free zones Everywhere, but then go on and build even more overkill highways than Germany does.

[@Lunavii_Cellest]

These are some of the most import highways. Alot of highways that are a bit less important like some sections of the A50 are just 4 lanes.

[@burgerpommes2001]

Just 4🤣

[@Lunavii_Cellest]

@@burgerpommes2001 not 4 in each direction.

[@dbijenhof]

An incredibly boing video about a moderately interesting bridge.

[@Ancovg]

That roundabout looks to be positioned terrible, way too close to a climb, all the speed you cycled so hard for to get you simply lose because you have to slow down right away.

[@Linda-hs1lk]

Naaahh, it's ok

[@David-bi6lf]

I take the roundabout over the British solution.

[@XEinstein]

I feel this video is misinformed on two counts. Firstly, I feel this bridge is not the last missing link in this particular route as just at the Voorburg end of this bridge you have to make an awkward crossing of a road and then a small bridge across the Vliet into a park in Voorburg. This little bridge can only be crossed walking as the incline is way too steep to cycle and in the park you share the road with pedestrians and a bit further the road is not a bike road yet. So Den Haag and Rijswijk have done their parts on the route and Voorburg still needs to do a lot. Secondly, I think the reason of why the fences are that high has much to do with a bike bridge just a few kilometers SW. Quite some years ago some wanker dropped a street tile from that bridge onto a car passing below killing the girl driving that car. Ever since than the region is particularly cautious with cycle / pedestrian bridges across the highway.

[@fabi57iamracer]

12 million 💶.......????????

[@burgerpommes2001]

?

[@fabi57iamracer]

@@burgerpommes2001 it is an insane amount of money.

[@burgerpommes2001]

That's the kind of money you work with on infrastructure projects

[@yannicknijdam1]

Why the fack am I even watching this?

[@Cl0ckcl0ck]

You using almost 'frack' means you like the future.

[@h.r.c.jansen4159]

Mark kijk dit eens even kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWOTgJ9ugqycpKs

[@brinkshows2720]

ITS NOT A BRIDGE ITS A VIADUCT..... ITS IN THE NAME FOR GOD SAKE. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@jaspermay5813]

Viaducts are a type of bridge so yeah.

[@jeroenburlage8906]

Den Haag . namen verengels je niet

[@cristian-oe3yn]

€12 million!?, was it made of gold?

[@cliostronk2667]

In the video it is mentioned that the bridge is 335 m long and 3,5 meters wide. With just those dimensions it would be a little over €10 000 per m2. I would say that given the complexity of the construction, that is a very reasonable price. But it was more than just the bridge, as you can see the roundabout and they had to connect the bridge to existing infrastructure. So I would guess that just the bridge was €8 000 - €9 000 per m2. A bridge over a small canal would cost up to €3 000 per m2, so I don't think that the costs are very excessive. The contractor made a press release when the viaduct was opened ( www.duravermeer.nl/nieuws/jan-linzelviaduct-officieel-geopend). At the bottom you can see a video of the placement of part of the bridge over the 16 lane highway.

[@Cl0ckcl0ck]

It is made of taxes and those taxes will be new taxes very fast. The workers pay taxes and the stuff they buy with the money they made building the bridge is taxed too, the companies pay taxes and the steel and concrete that's imported for the bridge is import taxed if it is from outside the EU. This bridge might have 'cost' the Hague €12 million but the Dutch taxpayer didn't lose €12 million to get it. In times of economic slowdown governments that have resources left to invest in infrastructure are able to breathe life into that economy. This is money well 'spend'. And we have another nice bridge.

[@Malvictis]

@Veneil Asking questions is now considered trolling? But, to answer *your* question, Cristian's point - obvious to anyone above the age of 12 - is that the bridge's cost is too high. Do you get it now?

[@Cl0ckcl0ck]

@@Malvictis How is the cost too high? It will shave off about 5-10 minutes from the travel time between Ypenburg and the Hague centre at the 'cost' of about €1 each time (30 years with about 1000 people using the bridge/day which is far too low). That's €6-12 an hour for people cycling this route in pure time saved. €12 million isn't too much at all. It will make that much back in time saved for the Dutch taxpayer probably in the first 5 years already. And never mind the time saved for moms/dads who no longer have to bring their kids to school because there is now a very save connection between Ypenburg and Voorburg/Rijswijk/Den Haag.

[@markovermeer1394]

@@Cl0ckcl0ck You are right that public expenses do support businesses which is good for the State again (Boris Johnson slogan "Build build build" plays that card) but there is a better argument: by shaving off minutes of bike time, you get more people on the bike: less cars are lower need for public transport. Those are both far more costly alternatives.

[@stefansoder6903]

Roundabout for cycles is a bad idea. Too many cyclist will not know the rules or ignore them. Would be better with some kind of stripes or speedbumps to force them to slow down!

[@Lunavii_Cellest]

It looks nicer and i think every single human in the netherlands knows hoe to use them becouse there are thousends of roundabouts with cycle lanes and everyone uses them correctly

[@ericburbach632]

do it correctly, not do it right

[@Linda-hs1lk]

both are correct

[@ericburbach632]

Saartje de Hond the one is more correct than the other

[@001looker]

Very stupid, bridges and roads should be made for cars only

[@edipires15]

Mate, the 60’s have called, they want their mentality back

[@001looker]

@@edipires15 90s called and said environmentalist are idiots

[@allws9683]

troll alert !👹

[@Rhine0Cowboy]

@@001looker What do environmentalists, or the opinion of someone in the 90's have to do with anything. The Dutch got their cycle paths after mass protests in the 70's because they were getting tired of their kids getting killed in traffic.

[@iraeaglemind]

Looks nice and well built!!!

[@pacersgo]

9 years?