NEW Draenei CAPITAL On Azeroth! Troll's NEW ERA! 10.2.7 Heritage DATAMINED!

[@Doronsmovies]

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[@jameschristophercirujano6650]

Finally, the Draenei have been stuck in BC, and at most, cata.

[@harkenrebirth]

It would only make sense considering Silvermoon and the zone will be updated in the void expansion.

[@ProgrQWow]

Where do you think the draenei will be located?

[@jameschristophercirujano6650]

@@ProgrQWow I had an inkling it would be Outland, since it's home after all, but, considering it might be extra work on Blizzard's part to go to Outland, it's probably the obvious Azuremyst.

[@harkenrebirth]

@@ProgrQWow Probably in the same place. But upgraded. I mean they HAD many years to cut the stone and build walls and stuff outside of where the exodar was. Didnt we use it to fly to Argus? So the ship probably isnt even there anymore. Or at least relocated a bit in a more.. Open area, so they can build houses outside it and walls. Stuff.

[@jameschristophercirujano6650]

@@harkenrebirth No. You used the Vindicaar, not the Exodar. The Vindicaar is the one that the Lightforged are currently using, since their ship; the Xenadar, crashed after getting hit by a Fel cannon ambush.

[@TheMrToxin]

Looks to me like after uniting factions, they give each of them a new capital which will be faction neutral. So I guess Gnomes and Goblins are next too.

[@tftg458]

They are setting up housing so hard with all the cities being rebuild.

[@hobosnake1]

Plus the revamps coming in midnight and last titan. I believe it's all for a soft reset on the world as well. Housing maybe comes in last titan or the xpac after unfortunately. That's what it feels like.

[@joezar33]

That wild , probably going too be 1TB download after it's all done ..

[@hobosnake1]

​@@joezar33more like 200gb. Iirc, it's like 109gb right now or something.

[@Inryhk]

This is exciting because we want this to happen, but after Gilneas I think the expectations should be heavily tempered. This is most likely just a short Heritage quest where you either revisit alternate Dreanor or travel in past / have vision where you meet those refreshed npcs. Remaking those cities would mean also redesigning some starting questlines if you go for classic start and that is too much work now that they mainly focus on War Within.

[@InMateTheRebel]

But the starting quests they already have an easy fix for, timewalking.

[@antoniopalas887]

I think these are all for the Heritage as well

[@MrJalasKelm]

Thing is we know there is at least a partial world revamp on the way, so I could see anything that is 'new world' being set in current time, all old content will be 'other time' via Chromie or whatever. Might stick with original starting areas still, as I don't think they'll want people to stop with old content, but we could also get a new start in new areas (or of course the option of either)

[@josephflannery9015]

I really hope we see a Vol’Jin Loa. That would be such a good pay off after SL

[@jshadowhunter]

In Night Fae storyline he literaly recieved the essence from Loa of Kings Rezan.

[@josephflannery9015]

@@jshadowhunter I know that’s why I said what I said..

[@jshadowhunter]

@@josephflannery9015 Yes but not everybody knows/remembers SL stuff considering how bad the expansion was.

[@josephflannery9015]

@@jshadowhunter Fair enough lol. But that’s why it’s a good reason to bring him back as a Loa

[@potatopotato1353]

As for Draenei, i think best place for them to settle in Azeroth is Azuremyst Isle, they could simply repurpose Exodar from Ship into city. But on second thought, they are not dwarves, so they are not experts in building underground. As for trolls, i think for two options. 1. Trolls will got rite of passage or something like orcs does. 2. Trolls unification?

[@reddin-on8mm]

The troll rite of passage sounds right as for the Draenei while they don't have experience doing underground building because as you said, they're not dwarves they do have them and the gnomes as allies so...

[@tftg458]

I hope they don't let the trolls down. It's my fav race.

[@raydafuq3570]

mine too. They sadly literally always let the trolls down. I need explained why we get Manari but no Forest trolls. Nobody wanted Manari and Forest trolls are asked for since Vanilla.

[@jextra1313]

​@@raydafuq3570 It's because Man'ari are just red draenei skin textures, super easy to implement, while the Forest Trolls need a new model, skeleton, rig, animations, textures, customization options, and gear has to be re-formed to fit them. It's so much more work.

[@raydafuq3570]

@@jextra1313 people literally just wanted a green skin tone for trolls in Vanilla. You misunderstood my comment - it literally makes no sense to implement Manari. They're the anti-thesis to the Draenei. They're their mortal enemies. They're responsible for millions of Draenei dying just for power. It literally makes no sense to get Manari as a Draenei variant. They'd be killed on the spot. Forest trolls on the other hand are part of the Horde since WC2. The Revantusk tribe is a literal quest hub in Vanilla WoW in the Hinterlands for the Horde with GREEN SKINNED trolls. They use the same models as Darkspear trolls just another skin tone - exactly what people asked for since forever. There are also multiple specific Forest troll NPCs in the game so they could uniquely design those but not add a green skin tone for players. That's my point. Lorewise Draenei would NEVER accept the Manari in their ranks but literally hunt them down for what they did. Forest trolls are literally a part of the Horde longer than the Darkspear are. It would be great to get a new model for Forest trolls but that should've happened 20 years ago. If it would be so much work a simple added skin tone would've been enough. We got nothing - except Sand and Dark troll skin tones that literally nobody asked for in Shadowlands. It was a literal kick in the face for troll players. "We know you ask for a green skin tone since basically two decades - here have the sand and dark troll skins instead that nobody wanted lol rofl lmao".

[@jextra1313]

@@raydafuq3570 I agree with you 100% lore-wise, the Forest Trolls are already part of the Horde, and the Man'ari are demons that would never be accepted by the Draenei. However people wanted red Draenei and Blizz has no restraint. Same with Void elves, just a way to try to appease High Elf whiners on the Alliance.

[@SnackPatrol]

@@raydafuq3570 my only 2 characters are a troll & a gnome. I have become very resilient lol

[@draculinalilith396]

I have an idea, Fell Forged Man'ari. Now we have a Man'ari skin for drenai. Despite them being in Fel wastes for thousands of years. I REALLY hope Man'ari would be their own thing. Keeping them alliance would make sense because Drenai are literally the only connection in all of azeroth to the Man'ari in any sense. But, we already have 2 regular drenai. Light forged and the other blue one. Man'ari are KNOWN for their fel magic and magical prowess. YET still Drenai only have like 3 passives and they are useless passives. Imagine a fell version of a light forged Drenai. Like instead of glowing with radiant light, you can customize the fell forged man'ari with different patterns of fell corruption and more black horns or horns with fell light, Maybe have more of a focus around warlocks/just magic in general. They spent over a thousand years in Fell lands literally one of the first sentient members of the legion. They should be EXPERTS of fell magic, NO EXCUSE. Like void elves but for fell energy, literally lore wise. Like imagine a reskin of the void elf passive where instead of empowering you with void, it empowered you with fell flame! imagine a arcane Mastry based Man'ari instead of the one healing ability and slight stat boost we get. Like literally this has the opportunity to where blizaard could do this easily, it would be amazing to see Fell Man'ari genuinely. Fell man'ari are the opposite to light forged in every way, and kin to void elves in succumbing to forbidden magice, and it would just be doing something bliz has already done. they are PERFECT to add now. > I am so salty Man'ari dont have fell power after over a thousand years of service to legion

[@GhastlyH]

BWONSAMDI!!! He makes dying in Zandalar FUN!

[@restroyer]

Hopefully all those datamined Draenei are for more than heritage quests. Would be cool to go back to alt-Draenor like for Mag’har though!

[@JoeSmith-sl9bq]

Alt stuff is lame

[@jabohonu]

I hope the Alliance gets broken Draneis and the Horde gets Undead Belfs (sorry if i misspelled not native speaker)

[@hardwing]

Great news for the Draenei! I would really love to see some state of the art Draenei architecture, science, etc., not to mention the state of the society inluding Man'ari and Broken. The Darkspear meanwhile need to move on, too. I like their architecture, but the Zandalari are a good way to connect them to the other troll races. On a side note: If they move to main Kalimdor, the original BC-zones see another exodus.

[@aston9279]

Where can we review the datamined models and other information?

[@revjirhcs]

If we dont get Vol’jin as a Loa then i would be very disappointed.

[@wombatpandaa9774]

I was just thinking about capital cities the other day after finally doing Universal Explorer after dragonriding was enabled everywhere. It really struck me how desparately more cities are needed on Kalimdor and the Eastern Kingdoms, especially Kalimdor for the Alliance. There isn't a single canonical Alliance major city on the Kalimdor instance anymore with Teldrassil gone, Exodar being on the Outland instance, and Theramore still blown up. Giving the Draenei a real capital city on the Kalimdor instance would be amazing, whether that's done by finally putting the Azuremyst and Bloodmyst Isles in the Kalimdor instance or moving the Draenei capital to another location - maybe a significantly built-up Forest Song? I'll admit that doesn't really feel right but it's possible. I'd prefer Swamp of Sorrows if the Draenei move off their islands but then that would cluster Alliance capitals even more and I don't know about that.

[@Nelfel]

sill be nice broken and forest trolls as alied race.

[@518goeshard420]

I haven’t played wow since the end of siege but have actively kept up with the lore thru channels like this out of love for the game and certain characters. If I had the same life I had in my midn20s I’d still be there My proudest feat was being second guild on my server to down Arathas on 10m hardcore me being main healer as b elf h pal

[@pacosalvs13]

Why can't the gnomes retake Gnomeregan? Like it's weird everyone is taking more grounds but the gnomes are just there, not even in cata they could retake it

[@Zailen1]

DRAENEI?! REALLY?! TROLLS?! REALLY?! Waiting too long have they? Pardon me while I laugh in Gnome.

[@Anastasia2048]

I want my gnome paladins 😢 they already can be priests and warriors. Paladins are just a hybrid of those classes.

[@mireiyu6623]

i really hope so for new draenei capital city poor goats stucked since BC inside a low poly ship :(

[@furdieallianz2079]

So true, it's about time the Draenai get a new city. I mean, Draenai Cities look soooo cool when I remember WoD back then.

[@TheMrToxin]

@@furdieallianz2079You don't need to remember, you can see them in this video.🙂

[@MSinistrari]

Considering Silvermoon's up to finally get repaired, it makes sense for the Draenei to get something more permanent than living in the equivalent of a broken down van.

[@SomewhereInSerbia]

Could also give Revantusk Forest Troll allied race with Jintha'Alor capital city. Could borrow some effort there.

[@leifvernaculum953]

WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT HOW THAT LIGHT CRYSTAL IN THE ROOF OF KHAZ'ALGAR IS THE FREAKING TIP OF SARGERAS'S SWORD? Why are we treating it like some big mystery object? Sargeras stabbed the planet. It's the tip of the sword.

[@MaceHead117]

Because it's not anywhere close to his sword

[@Royceman1995]

I like the idea of a Draenei capital on Azeroth. Where do you think it would be located? Personally I think it should be on both Azuremyst Isle and Bloodmyst Isle since both areas have Draenei doing stuff there. Plus the Exodar is also on Azuremyst Isle.

[@willythemailboy2]

It seems unlikely we'll be seeing a Draenei city at this point, since it's been confirmed that the Draenei zones are being completely remade for Midnight. That will match the rebuild the north part of EK for the rebuilding of Quel'Thalas.

[@skyhavender]

Wish they did more with the menaari tbh. Seriously atleast give us the fel skin cracks and stuff cmon blizz! 😢

[@raydafuq3570]

You shouldn't even be able to play Manari in the first place. Be happy with what you got.

[@Anastasia2048]

​@@raydafuq3570 They already have the assets for having fel cracked skin. Just plain laziness on Blizzard's part.

[@anthonycalfa2048]

Since tyr revived, the perfect time to add ogres and vrkul tyr has history with vrykul and agramar creates the ancestors of the ogre and they worship arcane and titans. Also, darkspear are exiled gurubashi being smaller.

[@Elysian777]

The horde can have The Broken. Alliance needs High Arakoa.

[@kazookiddo7605]

Gnomes, still stuck in Vanilla. Man Blizz should focus more on them

[@MSinistrari]

Didn't they retake Gnomeregan? Last time I started a dwarf, the pilot flying me out of the starter area said they got it back.

[@dracomalfoy6886]

@@MSinistrari Gnomes did take Gnomeregan back in Lore, by now it should be fully clean and able to operate again, but, due to the dungeon we can't go inside the city, we just have the starting zone that is stuck in cataclysm, which is just the moment after we retook it, the missions go all about killing a few gnomes that were irradiated and cleanse ourselves from said radiation. I hope blizzard gives us a full capital city, since New Tinker Town acts more like the Echo Isles as it's own zone for the race of vanilla that didn't have a capital city but without being a capital per se

[@MSinistrari]

@@dracomalfoy6886 Thank you for clarifying. I'm not really a gnome player so I'm a bit lacking on their lore.

[@dracomalfoy6886]

@@MSinistrari no problem, I love talking about gnomes and their lore

[@tatalsaba]

The Exodar: I've never liked that place, so it'd be great if it got an overhaul, and actually got relevant to players to visit for a change. Not only does it look awful, it's terribly inconvenient because you can't ride within the Exodar, forcing the players to walk through the place, which isn't a big experience. The trolls, I'd honestly like to see most of the troll races being put in the same basket, especially since it's already evident that jungle troll, dark troll and sand troll skin tones are already available in cutomisation. A proper city would be a bit hard to make for them, though I think it could be set in motion that it be constructed as part of Sen'jin Village and the Echo Isles.

[@J479fstknvds]

You can mount within the Exodar..

[@burningwolf5805]

Draenai are no longer space gypsies. With the defeat of the Legion they might not want to return to Argus. The Light Forged Draenai can also land their space ship for a permanent base of operations. If the Darkspear and Zandalari can do for the Troll species what the Alliance done for humans then that could stir up the balance if power. At some point the Alliance prevented human extinction. Troll Tribes are splintered but could we see a return to some kind of troll power base? The Zandalari are greatly weakened since the civil war and the Alliance raiding to kill Rhastakhan.

[@Anastasia2048]

"Space squatters" 😂

[@Xiuhticuhtli1995]

Look all I’m saying is a patch where your trolls try to re-unify into a reforged “empire of zul” would either tip the scales or at the very least equalize the power between the alliance and the horde as the alliance are significantly more powerful than the horde and have been for a while now…this coming from a troll main lol

[@raydafuq3570]

@@Xiuhticuhtli1995 dunno where you get this from. Alliance just always get favoured by Blizzard that doesn't make them more powerful. Quite on the contrary - without Deus Ex Machina Jaina they'd be wiped out multiple times by now.

[@Xiuhticuhtli1995]

@@raydafuq3570 getting favored by the blizzard, or the writers, is literally having a plot armor buff, not to mention for the longest the horde has been the “bad guys” getting the shit kicked out of us by everyone, so yeah I’d say the alliance is stronger

[@raydafuq3570]

@@Xiuhticuhtli1995 let's not act like the current Alliance really has defeated any "Bad" Horde on it's own. It was always the "Good" Horde that helped the Alliance by weakening the Horde ranks first. It was the case with both Garrosh and Sylvanas. They always have to work together to defeat the Horde so I'd say the Horde is actually stronger.

[@caz___]

i am calling it right now, Blizzard is going to send a meteor to destroy Azure island xD and THEN will build a city for Draenei thats a lot more closer and relevant

[@justaflyinduck3425]

Amani better join the horde js sayin

[@JoeSmith-sl9bq]

I wish we had forest trolls

[@Husker_XIII]

It's pronounced Aw-kin-doon we literally got the proper pronunciation in WoD.

[@Hypnotically_Caucasian]

Imagine living in an outer space equivalent of a run down trailer park for fifteen years Redneck space goats

[@Anastasia2048]

Redneck squatting space goats lol

[@adyenlichtwachter6684]

This is the moment to make WoW's first FLOATING ISLAND CITY IN THE SKY under new Draenei Technology powered by both Azerite and Argunite. Or could be...

[@TeMAC59]

Have you heard of dalaran?

[@Anastasia2048]

​@@TeMAC59Have you heard of the high elves?

[@xaulted1]

Why don't they just move to alternate Dranor? I mean... the iron horde is long gone and they already _have_ nice cities there...

[@RaveMasterSRB]

I thought Zuldazar become capital off all Trolls after BFA and Darkspiers refer to the Qeen of Zandalari as their own.

[@jojo4279]

I can see vol"jin become the New Loa of kings now that rezan is dead

[@antoniopalas887]

Could it be possible that this is all just for the Heritage missions? Or have those been released already?

[@Ninja40K]

I hope we can save Yrel.

[@moprophet_509]

broken should be just a barbershop customization. broken would be lame for a whole race it takes away from way better options

[@NotTheWheel]

I'd like for there to be two cities then. The old and the new.

[@Gurtington]

Im gona be so upset if the draenei heritage armor is more silver plate armor with a single purple crystal in each shoulderpad, guantlet, and leg piece. :/

[@ahemjasgarcha3815]

Will there be a update on the Amani

[@RA-uq1uc]

If adding Void Elves and Alleria Windrunner and then having everyone just join the light to fight the void seems pretty lazy writing (not that I am surprised). If we are uniting both factions they could just use the light/void split for the new "war" in warcraft. I'm not holding my breath for anything ground breaking though.

[@lucasemboava5935]

Just hope it isn't another neutral city.

[@Xiuhticuhtli1995]

Look all I care about is that my loa is coming back…JANI

[@gabewhite6943]

I have a feeling everywhere except org and stormwind are gonna be cross faction very very soon

[@spindoggytheexplorer2915]

I really hope not

[@commracA]

Is alternate dreaenor lorewise still accessible? Why didn't they join their alternate brothers? (Same goes for orcs)

[@raydafuq3570]

Alternate Draenor has fallen to the forces of the Light. They went full on Nazi and tried to genocide the Orcs. That's why the Maghar joined the Horde on Azeroth.

[@yoosperson9753]

i want playable amani :(

[@electricmayhem8147]

the exodar is already there! wtf!

[@That_kind_of_orc]

Echo isles is very s****y area it looks so primitive and it needs a major rework there is like only 1 house? Also I hope Rokhan will get a new proper model as a classic race leader even though his model is kinda okay right now but lorthemar also got a very nice new model

[@Xenowarrior92]

Hopefuly they dont get the Gilneas treatment.

[@ademord]

I think trolls should merge into a single race (from the customization perspective) and u can change at a barber your race details, same for draenei/lightforged/broken, same for gnomes and dwarves, those systems need to be simplified for the own sake of the developers maintenance of the codebase. elves can remain as they are (separate) i would say for now. but in the future where the lines continue to blurr between horde and alliance i think this wont matter anymore, and the character creation will be more like baldur's gate's. this is my feedback for a bright maintenable future of the codebase and the playerbase

[@jextra1313]

Yep, it's weird that Dark Irons and Mechagnomes are different races, but Wildhammers, Man'ari, Sandfury Trolls are lumped in with the base race. Make it consistent.

[@NotjustGrey]

Ock-in-doon

[@Forge17]

If all Troll tribes join together for the Horde, all Elves should be alliance (sips tea) Also hope we don’t abandon the Exodar, it’s still such an epic place. I’d rather see it updated/restored.

[@davyman2000]

While it would be cool, I feel story wise it wouldn't work based on some of the actions done by the Blood Elves

[@raydafuq3570]

There is literally no reason for all Elves to be Alliance. Just shows you don't know the Lore of Warcraft at all. Sipping tea like what you said is in any way valid but it's literally just idiocy. Trolls were the Empire of Zul. They still get along as we could clearly see in Zandalar even though they have their differences. Elves literally hate their cousins for their way of life and would have no problem with genociding each other. Elves are a personification of fascism. We could see all the hate from Tyrande. Dunno where people get this Elven races are united bullshit from... you guys never played anything Warcraft related?

[@zytha2890]

sounds cool but im gonna be playing azeroth at war instead

[@SaerosTheDragon]

Taz'dingo!😅

[@cryam6428]

Next we need to give attention to the Tauren. Their settlements are even more-outdated their either Draenei or Troll.

[@raydafuq3570]

Thunderbluff is a fully functional city. Draenei have a fully functional city. The Trolls are the ones that need the attention the most together with the Gnomes because they don't even have a city of their own. For Tauren we need to expand on their origin a lot because we basically know nothing especially about An'She. We also know basically nothing about the origins of the Trolls - all we now is that Tauren and Trolls seem to be the only native races to this world.

[@acesarca]

can you once be correct

[@_blasfemy]

exodar is bis. change my mind

[@bindair_dundat]

Vol'jin died like he lived... like a b*tch. May his short reign as Warchief be swiftly forgotten.

[@raydafuq3570]

Why you people feel the need to talk about characters you obviously don't know? You just look like an idiot you know. Vol'jin was the most liked Warchief after Thrall and Garrosh. For most people Vol'jin should have became Warchief before Garrosh did. And literally nobody wanted Sylvanas as Warchief.

[@HamadAlMutairi97]

First.

[@valorius5947]

Gilneas quest chain are just a joke and gilneas retake is a joke, nothing have change just few npc even the forsaken tent a still in gilneas, the quality of this patch is miserable