NEW ELDEN RING UPDATE! Patch 1.12.3 Brings Lots of Nerfs. Shadow of the Erdtree

[@youwy]

Someone said they want their smithing stones back 😭

[@vonbrex1932]

Real

[@musafirghayrmaeruf1]

Honestly considering they spent them on a weapon they cant use anymore that is fair.

[@JF-vz1ju]

@@musafirghayrmaeruf1 They'd have to be crazy to not see the nerf coming. It was literally insane.

[@W.H.138]

@@musafirghayrmaeruf1 those weapons are obviously bugged, it's their own fault for thinking bugs won't be getting fixed. Also the dlc enemies drop runes and smithing stones like nothing, just go buy em lmao.

[@-SILVERHAND-]

I had just upgraded today in case I felt like trying it out but I was too late lmaoo

[@hoodieonmarz]

so many things need buffs, so many cool incantations and spells that literally do nothing

[@dimo6994]

Yeah the one that rains fire and the one from scadutree avatar are currently straight ASS

[@dimo6994]

Same with the feather one and the hippo one and bascially all of them

[@YEY0806]

But that's OK, though, because it's "challenging and fair" to give bosses huge HP, long combos, and awesome abilities while the player should only get scraps, we wouldn't want our players of a mostly single player game to hurt the bosses feelings too bad

[@musafirghayrmaeruf1]

Havent watched the video to the end yet but did they do anything for the Ansbach incantation? It had no bleed which is stupid. And had low damage too.

[@jubabutler]

Even miquellas spell does nothing af

[@aiellamori]

Brother, the boss placement one means gaius won't be charging at you frame one when you re enter the fog wall. He will be at the same place you first encounter him every time

[@youwy]

But I liked panicking the second I stepped foot into that boss room.

[@deathlessone7096]

I just used the ability of a great meteoric sword to dodge his running attack

[@artezac]

​@@youwyI think it was mostly to actually allow people a chance to summon at the start

[@noahaaron6451]

im gonna miss when i forget to buff and then his pet dog scadutree fragment checks me with its shit hotbox 😔

[@youwy]

@@artezac It's a good change. I was just joking

[@Ganja_Guru217]

No one is saying rolling sparks didn't need a nerf but perfume bottles are actually useless now.

[@piedpiper1185]

This. Their damage is sub-par, the attacks are pretty slow, they have virtually zero stance damage, can't do critical hits, and despite ostensibly having decent range, with the way the attacks work you have to be up your target's ass to do anything more than tickle them.

[@Konghammer1]

My friend just beat Bayle with his bottles post nerf. Still worked pretty dang good from what I saw.

[@coastaldrano2355]

Yeah I’m HOPING Rolling Sparks still does decent damage if used, you know, “normally”. Perhaps it’s good against larger enemies due to the multiple explosions? Or it’s meant to be a longer range AoE / horde clear for perfume bottles

[@joshuakim5240]

The bottles do still have a niche, as they can still do their old damage to massive enemies. Their nerf was an exploit that allowed the line attack nature of rolling sparks to all be concentrated in one tiny area to deal that intended damage to small individuals. So against most dragons, and in hallways, rolling sparks will still put in work. It just can't be used to insta-cheese what it wasn't meant to cheese anymore. Can still be used to giga-cheese big foes.

[@guest_zzroman2076]

The poison bottle is the most useful now cause it does pure physical and boosting physical is way easier, but its biggest strenght is the ability to proc all the poison related buffs even against inmune enemies, with the poisoned hand in your off hand, kindred of rot and mushroom hat you can proc 3 buffs at the start of a fight and switch to your main weapon on top of your physic flask, golden vow, flame grant me strenght, exalted flesh, etc, and it can reproc while fighting if you also have a poison weapon, it's nuts.

[@DEVil-po5xz]

No fucking way. The buffed ZERO of the useless incantations.

[@aayushraghuram8083]

The fire cloud incant lmao

[@Penguino19]

Tbh the nerfs were the most needed part of it, it was crazy

[@bubbly_ghost]

Looks like they focused more on the bugged/instakill shiz regarding pvp for this round

[@tmb379]

​@@Penguino19 if the bosses are broken why can't the weapons be op too. They should not nerf anything. Maybe for pvp only but not for pve

[@okacz19]

Rain of Fire will deal max 150 damage per tick at max upgrades and you WILL enjoy it! Still can't believe it made it past testing:D

[@strangeperson2314]

My face when Midra's Frenzied Flame got no buffs and still only does like 150 damage as an AoE and can't hit anything within 8 feet of you.

[@Someone-fv3iv]

Not to mention that it builds up madness in you too quickly for it to actually be worth using 😭😭

[@elijahford3696]

​​@@Someone-fv3iv Boost focus. The more focus you have, the more likely you beat someone who didn't.

[@supermariolego878]

​@@elijahford3696even if you do boost focus, it doesnt change the fact that midra's sun is an objectively inferior version of unendurable frenzy

[@elijahford3696]

@@supermariolego878 Currently, yes. I'm in agreement on a buff, I'm just saying that for working with it as is. It should be better, you invest more for it.

[@strangeperson2314]

@@elijahford3696 I quite literally have nearly the max focus in the game (aside from just going to 99 mind). I am using solitude armor that gives like 300 focus and have 60 mind, and i can STILL only use it for like 6 seconds. Unless used in very early main game areas, it wont really kill anything before they just hit you and knock you out of it with ease.

[@SwedetasticGames]

Not making Rain of Fire, Rotten Butterflies and Aspect of the Crucible: Miranda Blossom Beams of Light do any sort of damage at the same time as this is actually criminal.

[@nawabifaissal9625]

I think they actually wanted to make the game even harder without saying it lmao

[@somersaultinggiraffe1901]

​@@nawabifaissal9625classic Fromsoft bullshittery

[@xenoplethoraclips7414]

I absolutely love rotten butterflies just because the visuals are so amazing but omg it does absolutely nothing, pretty heartbreaking when I spent my remembrance on it

[@zuno8459]

This was just a small patch probably done to fix a few of the game-breaking items, hence why the new version is only 1.12.3 and not 1.13. Hopefully they actually start buffing stuff whenever that comes out 🙏

[@LiliumCruorem]

@@xenoplethoraclips7414. My mimic will use it sometimes in fights and it’s a little eyecandy for the sad world of scadu. That’s the true spell effect.

[@karmascamera5275]

Unfortunately, *Light of Miquella* STILL can't be buffed by the *Dryleaf Seal* or the *Circlet of Light*

[@propheticrain-maker1486]

Wtf 😂

[@thegreycrusader]

Lmao you serious? I've been wearing that and having the seal in my off hand thinking it buffed the damage but it was just Golden Vow the whole time.

[@Flyhr]

its the best aoe spell in the game already

[@kaizerdxd]

Damn

[@lordkars3971]

​@@Flyhr it's trash, aoe means nothing when it can't one shot trash

[@BzCoffin1663]

As a tiche user I can confirm that sometimes when she does the destined death and later when the grey area wears off the bosses health definitely looks like it bounces back more than the damage the attack did effectively healing the boss, glad they fixed that I though I was going crazy

[@agimrexhepi1680]

I was using tiche at time i fought messmer and realised that she healed the hell of him than later i used Oleg against him and knew this shit was bug

[@irvinledezma8213]

DUDE SAME lol for me it was with radahn that I finally noticed

[@Ashelios]

Rolling sparks is just enough to tickle enemies balls now 🥶

[@MaidenlessScrub]

Give them a good massage and they might decide to spare your life in exchange of making you their b*tch.

[@TheSaltRonin]

Get me those rolling sparks 😭🙏

[@blu-rae864]

Perfect :3

[@mochaman29]

Something about his test must've been off. Just tested it on divine beast with the flame perfume and its doing like 75% of what it used to.

[@leonholz5901]

@@mochaman29 Did you do the "aiming into the ground" way or the normal way? Because they might have nerfed the former while keeping the latter, so damage for large bosses would remain unchanged.

[@backslash4141]

The thing about the boss placements is actually good. What it means is that, using gaius as an example, if you die and re-enter the arena he will now spawn further back like when you initially entered the arena. This should help prevent getting bull-rushed the second you cross the fog wall in his fight.

[@backslash4141]

Another note, the summoned NPCs being fixed is probably thiollier specifically on the final boss. Half the time he won't even enter the arena.

[@stefandrift99]

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan fk this change, shoud have fixed his hitbox on that attack instead and he woud be fine

[@HAVIN_aBLAST]

I've had some heart attacks trying to recover my runes

[@treefish501]

@@backslash4141 i thought i noticed that when i was summoning, but i thought it was him being a coward so it was in character.

[@LeviathanTamer31]

One time I died to Gaius so fast, my runes were at the Site of Grace when I respawned. Made me laugh.

[@Sanji_Vinsmoke_69]

1:32 re-fight means to fight again. So that patch basically means if you die to them and try to fight them again, the hippo boss and commander gaius' starting position will be the same as the very first time you enter their boss rooms (first fight).

[@AceAviations2]

Those two fights are awful, maybe Gaius won't be as miserable with this change. The Golden Hippo on the other hand...the arena combined with it's size and speed were FAR bigger problems than him charging you the moment you enter the arena. That fight is a poorly designed mess even without the aggro charge at the start.

[@luiskapel3020]

@@AceAviations2 What you said - die, walk back in, and no chance to use your summons, you are being chomped on immediately 😭

[@bronzieblue63]

That Rain of Fire incantation desperately needs a buff, requires like 50+ faith and it gets beaten by an uncharged Black Flame projectile in damage, like bruh why is it so horribly weak?

[@colorpg152]

its the same as the star version so useless

[@logandial9691]

​@@colorpg152the star one isn't even that bad compared to Rain of Fire

[@YungNah-t8f]

@@colorpg152 star one not half bad against larger enemies tho you can get like 4k dmg per cast idk if the incantation is worse or what but seems worse

[@michaelbowman6684]

@@colorpg152 For a second I thought you were talking about Elden Stars, but Founding Rain of Stars at least doesn't lock you into place for an extended period of time, it's about as fast as casting any other generic Sorcery, whereas Rain of Fire is using the "Fire Storm" casting animation for some anomalous reason, so it leaves you wide open to being heavily punished, even if you don't charge it... oh yeah, it also has a _charging_ system as if casting it didn't already take twice as long to cast compared to Fire Serpent.

[@cceibon]

give 80% of the long ass incantations half the hyper armor endure has and this dlc is fixed.

[@Deamonder_]

So I could cast rain of fire without interruption ? neet

[@crezd5028]

Let me trade damage with Fortisaxx spear ffs

[@smittyDXPS3]

Double Moon spell is completely useless atm

[@nawabifaissal9625]

​@@Deamonder_ it need a nerf tbh

[@Deamonder_]

I know, just making fun of the incredible 24-26 damages of the rain of fire when you're at 60/80 faith, it's not even mediocre at this point it's straight up useless lmao

[@Rafael57YT]

The npc behaviour fix is probably because many NPCs just stood there without attacking the bosses (?)

[@Lumberjackman]

Absolutely there's two npcs near the end that won't enter the fog gate

[@MyNameIsSalo]

hopefully for the summon in the last fight. Summoning him made the fight substantially harder as he would never pull boss aggro, and the boss gained x2 hp. Just fighting a tankier boss for no bonus

[@victord.monkey9081]

The Gaius and Hippo relocation is to prevent them insta charging from the start with less than 2 second to react

[@itsshow710]

What is there to react to ? It happens every single time you get in the arena , you know it’s gonna happen, there’s no reaction here whatsoever

[@Neurotik51]

@@itsshow710 It's not about reaction, Idk why they said that. In the case of Gaius it's that the attack is meant to be avoided using Torrent, so when he begins with it at the start of the fight he's so far away from the player that rolling it from that distance and angle requires basically a frame perfect roll in the correct direction. I'd say I avoided it 50% of the time, or worse, on all my attempts on that boss despite knowing it was coming, it just felt like rng. I didn't want to mount Torrent every time just to avoid that one attack so I decided to just take the 50/50. It got extremely annoying and should 100% have been changed, which I'm glad they did.

[@fatty1040]

​@@Neurotik51its literally a patience check it wasn't that bad. The shitty hitbox it has with its mouth is what really needed the change not the charge itself.

[@Evaille]

I had no issue dodging Gaius' charge attack on foot. It's definitely easier with a ranged build. I spammed giant golden arc until he lost use of the rest of his limbs.

[@Okina-Kev]

@@fatty1040it was clearly a problem thats why it was changed. With the current times we’re in yall dont think changes are going to come anyway and planned before hand…..

[@creamofthecrop6743]

I had a lot of fun instakilling bosses with perfume it needed to be nerfed but not made completely useless. Why is it always overpowered to useless instead of overpowered to viable.

[@shreeanshmahapatra2313]

It's still good. Just on par with other ashes of war that are good against large bosses. Multiple hitboxes stacking on top of each other was unintended so they removed that. It's definitely not unusable now.

[@Deamonder_]

@@shreeanshmahapatra2313 On par ???? You mean the AoW of the Death Knight GreatAxe is not a thousand time better than rolling sparks on perfume now ? The shadow katana AoW ? Dragon slayer katana AoW ? Compared to them rolling sparks belong to a kindergarden playground imo

[@hedgehoginacanoe5838]

​@@Deamonder_let me guess they nurfed it before you reached radahn so now you don't have a instant win and actually have to get good😂😂😂

[@queonjacobs6823]

@@Deamonder_ no? literally just dont point rolling sparks at the ground and it will work as intended

[@maxcepec9886]

​@@Deamonder_ Just try using it for yourself and see. Youwy didn't showcase it properly. The animation will end if you point it at the ground but it still does the same amount of explosions. Shooting it in a straight line does almost as much dmg against large bosses as before. I think the difference is the second bug they fixed that caused some explosions to have doubled hitbox. In my testing, I was still able to deal 4x the dmg of a charged heavy with it, but we have to actually aim it now and use it on intended targets, i.e. large monster enemies.

[@couran]

I think it makes sense that they've focused on things that were obviously wrong or broken first. It's only been two weeks, since release, not a surprise that there's no real buffs yet because presumably they want to wait until they've seen how all the combos and options truly play out before issuing buffs.

[@StoniTheOni]

This has always been the case with From and it never gets old

[@gunnarschlichting9886]

Like seriously, I really don't get the people who were expecting buffs already. It feels like I'm going insane.

[@marcelomagno9323]

Lol, like there isnt a bunch of useless spells and incantations in the base game that they never buffed, like elden stars

[@inanefabas4402]

Finally, someone with a working brain.

[@DanielFerreira-ez8qd]

​@@marcelomagno9323 Elden Stars is not useless, it's just niche. Not only that, but they did buff it.

[@laynerowland1497]

Making Rolling sparks go from dealing 30000 damage to 300 is wild, hopefully they buff the perfume stuff a bit haha

[@krustykrabpizza4328]

Yeah that's pretty excessive. They could've just did that for PVP and left it alone for PvE

[@Deamonder_]

I picked up the parfume because there was ONE way for them to deal damages... Guess I'll never use them again lmao

[@aaronmorgan8047]

I just upgraded mine to throw it right back in the trash

[@wilfredwayne7139]

Classic fromsoft at this point nerf everything into oblivion so nothing is good.

[@NoName-bl8qr]

@@krustykrabpizza4328it was broken in pve it literally one shot lots of bosses and three or two hit radhan

[@monster37700]

Almost no buffs😭😭

[@MonsieurGaslight]

Made me so sad

[@samuelbrown7466]

Well everyone is whining that items are op in pvp, so obviously we need to nerf the pve based items to be weaker then the unusable pve based items

[@loboalcurry]

They probably want to fix the game first

[@samuelbrown7466]

I’d say every nerf needs reverted personally, it’s not exactly an easy task to land any attack that takes 4 seconds to execute so by nerfing the only reason anyone would use the items their just never going to use them, it effectively removed over half the dlc items with this update

[@cloudy8083]

@@samuelbrown7466realistically anything is usable in pve

[@josetomascamposrobledano4618]

1:22 a detail that only keen eyed players notice. In these games, usually after fighting a boss and losing. You’ll skip the “intros” and the boss will now have to walk towards you in a different position. Obvious examples are Gael’s Olympic sprint and Malenia no longer doing a 2 hit intro attack.

[@itoito7104]

Nerfing Rolling Sparks withour buffing the perfumes bottles is a very bad decision.

[@kubakowalik6598]

its not just nerf, they made it deal 100 times less damage xD From 30.000 damage to 300 damage wtf

[@bleedrainbows9522]

Its more a fix than nerf. Its working as intended now, a larger rebalance of the perfumes is probably in the works but that needed tp be fixed asap.

[@clementine2718]

@@bleedrainbows9522 explain to me how rolling sparks is now working as intended, please?

[@burns0100]

Nerfing it like that was a joke of a fix. Literally said we don't know how to fix it so we just destroyed it to prevent players for using it. Now an R1 does more damage then an ash of war.

[@LaughingBox5]

I assume they wanted to ship this patch fast to nerf the game breaking stuff. More patches will probably be coming

[@bruhvenant]

Seems like this is a quick update just to address the most ridiculously broken stuff, the vast majority of this patch is classified as "bug fixes" so it wasn't really intended to be a major balance shake-up and the nerfs are simply because those things were benefitting from bugs. I imagine they have 1.13 in the works as a large balance focused patch, especially considering how much balance has been the hot topic for people to complain about.

[@Gruso57]

Exactly. People are so hasty with their reactions. The bigger balances will come soon enough

[@Jackenack]

Lmao it was so clear to me this would happen and I am not surprised everyone is crying about it. An ash of war that could kill 90% of the base game bosses in under 10 seconds with zero effort. There are so many interesting builds introduced with this update that I would love to see get some balance updates but this was one that I don't even really consider balance, it's more like patching an unintended exploit, and people are acting like they took away the only viable build in the entire dlc. Just ridiculous lol

[@vandagylon2885]

You complain about it so.​@@Jackenack

[@elcappa1167]

@@JackenackQuick Question : lets say i had a build that could Kill every boss in 1 second exactly how does that effect you & your experience in the game to the point where the game needed to nerf it ?? (Btw im lvl 428 & never used bottles im just curious to why people cry about shit that dont directly effect them & their experience in the game)

[@lamellarm6546]

​@@vandagylon2885You missed the point lol

[@CFEKOSMOS]

"Changed the placement of the bosses, who knows what that means?" EVERYONE! How is that hard for you to understand???

[@StoniTheOni]

Deadass, remember how the hippo and Gaius came from specific corners of the arena for their entrance? Yeah they're gonna stay like that now guys, which seems awesome for Gaius cus now you won't get fucked out the gate for summoning an ash spirit

[@obiebryan3654]

Facts i would summon and then str8 use bloodhound step to doge his rush str8 out the game

[@DemonLordSparda]

Well he's trying to shit out a video every single day, so he's not exactly putting much thought into things. Like they fixed Rolling Sparks exploding on the ground, and then he uses it the same way. Didn't even try it on a big enemy.

[@somethingsomewhere66]

It's just the way the sentence was put together is what sounds weird I guess

[@natem355]

no way they forgot to fix the ansbach bloodflame incantation doing 0 bleed build up 💀that shit might actually be intentional

[@ViralMag_Ravager]

Having a Bloodflame incant do zero bleed buildup? That's like taking bleed status off katanas but meh been dragging my feet to even get to Shadow Keep as figured changes were incoming.

[@dylang8082]

I'd be pissed if they actually didn't intend to give us blood loss build up on that incant. Has to come in a future patch (cope)

[@Sura077]

unless they recieve enough feedback nothing will change in that regard so go and write some

[@mfspectacular]

i wouldnt be suprised because it doesnt say anything about bleed build up in its' description 😂 im bummed about that too tho

[@virginiasleeper]

def a bug will be prob be fixed next patch

[@Leanmk5]

Rip perfume bottles

[@mentoloshurka]

Lol I just upgraded fully mine, then the next day: NERFED

[@krulzvain8933]

yeah rip also the smithscript weapons

[@krustykrabpizza4328]

Had fun for every bit of 4-5 days

[@konstantinw.1036]

Thats goof

[@p4ladin167]

7:03 I KNEW I WASN'T GETTING CRAZY AND THIS WAS HAPPENING! i used tiche and this happened way too often it felt like i did no progress when she used that

[@amistakewasmade6626]

The smithscript nerf was so shit. Lost 25% of its damage pretty much when used with faith or int scaling infusions.

[@colorpg152]

why cant we have anything good

[@agent004skin]

Those weapons really didn’t need a nerf either.

[@lowercasepeople5683]

Those weapons are "okayish" before. Now they are just useless.

[@dinolover]

Damn I just got them yesterday too

[@HydraVolt12]

They're still very good lmao, especially the greathammer.

[@AirLondon66]

i understand nerfing the rolling sparks and perfume bottles but nerfing it to the point where they're just useless is just annoying, only enabling people to abuse bleed builds. YES KNOW THEY WERE BROKEN!! I just wish they got balanced instead of being nerfed/patched to the ground cause i think the perfume bottles have a lot of potential

[@richikchatterjee2252]

Yeah this is simply for the people who complain in pvp...this is basically a pvp centric patch...

[@DREADEDuuubGAMING]

@@richikchatterjee2252facts

[@12gagegaming43]

I'm pretty sure the only 'nerf' was fixing the rolling spark bug

[@spence6195]

FromSoftware is infamous for nerfing overperforming weapons into oblivion, if you didn't get to use it before the patch then you're shit out of luck

[@Invader_Hex]

@@richikchatterjee2252 my brother, the rolling sparks glich was a PVE issue, you could legit two shot the final boss of the DLC. This nerf is for all the players that go around one shotting bosses.

[@slimesoup7944]

1:35 to clarify, this means that the boss will spawn on the other side of the arena instead of directly in front of the arena entrance. giving time for people to summon/buff.

[@CGR1410]

“Placement of bosses” means that they’d be in the same spot as when you’d first encounter them naturally before having a fog barrier

[@cosmicbilly]

I enjoy that one!

[@michaelwilcox8187]

Perhaps they should stop having bosses blitz rape you as soon as you pass through the fog door

[@YungNah-t8f]

Will this affect Bayle?

[@snickers7079]

@@YungNah-t8fwhy would it affect bayle

[@heyu2395]

@@snickers7079because he flys in when u first see him

[@CardsNSleevesTCG]

Commander Gaiuss repositioning, only a few will understand the bullshit he can do fresh outta the fogwall

[@executioner_ecgbert884]

You mean pin you against the fog wall and block your camera so you can't avoid or see what's attacking you?

[@AceAviations2]

Sadly the Golden Hippo fight is beyond saving, it's size and speed are just too much for the arena you fight him in. That fight does need some actual nerfs.

[@DONwUZI]

@@executioner_ecgbert884hogshit

[@watermage25]

They saw Kai spamming that heavy attack with blood fiend and said thats enough

[@SlavesGaming]

Became the turning point where he started to win 😂

[@formatomi]

The boss changes just means they start further back in the arena as if you walked in the first time

[@beydey2647]

They always nerf the few OP weapons but never touch the dozens of underpowered spells

[@n3ptune130]

Yall acting like this is r6s

[@vdhzeno]

@@n3ptune130 ?????

[@ChrisParaschos]

these few OP weapons maybe are fun for someone who commits in PVE only but for me who also plays the colloseum these op weapons are nightmare to deal with it. Also not all spells suck ass if you have 40 mind.

[@n3ptune130]

@@vdhzeno name another rpg other than maybe an mmo where ppl complain abt shit being underpowered as much as this

[@jacktheripper7935]

Well, the rolling sparks was a litteral bug and did way too much damage to the point I don't see where the fun could be... But yeah, there are many incantations needing a buff rn.

[@SecretMarsupial]

Looking at these changes like: “I hope you all had fun”

[@konstantinw.1036]

Ohh the noobs are crying

[@wdgastly9880]

·Fixed a bug that made certain weapons usable and fun ·Fixed a bug where incantations and Euporia were not doing anything. These have now been removed from the game.

[@Krikri2009]

Wait u can't get euporia anymore?

[@VideoStalker00]

@@Krikri2009😂 its a joke, mate!

[@Krikri2009]

@@VideoStalker00 well I'm not worried I already have it just wondering if they actually removed it

[@asraarradon4115]

QQ

[@mangekyuby7940]

Cry more

[@KRIMZONMEKANISM]

7:23 that fix might have something to do with the fact that some days ago I summoned Thiollier to the last boss fight and the guy decided then and there to cast eternal sleep on himself and have a little nap behind the fog gate while me and Ansbach fought for our lives xD

[@Deamonder_]

I love the way you phrased it lmao

[@executioner_ecgbert884]

I actually won the fight easier when he decided to stay outside the boss fog. He enters and fights if he gets hit at all through the wall, so he basically just waited out there so he could be fresh for phase 2

[@omerozel4716]

Sometimes he did nothing and stands around

[@flintlocktingleberry]

LMAO

[@disparu6007]

Oh yeah for me he just never came in the fog door, at all, I thought it was intended lol. The few times he was summoned he just would never walk in.

[@shinkio7]

Perfume weapons are now just storage space. No buffs and the ashes of war are now worthless except for certain situations. No buffs, regular attacks are slow and still deal low damage. Weapon is ass. It needs a buff

[@user-zp8kj2cl9g]

My man faster than Rellana combos

[@ashscar8878]

I believe the part about the placement of the Golden Hippo and Gaius is about how their starting positions are different on subsequent attempts compared to the first. This will be especially notable for Gaius who originally comes running in from the entrance to the next area at first and starting much closer to the boss fog on subsequent attempts where he is free to charge at you right off the bat.

[@Joshua_Shadow_Manriguez]

The bosses used to get directly in front of the door. Gaius, specifically in the first encounter, is out in the field, but in remstches, he was directly in front of the Fog Gate and could rush you at blinding speed. Now, you actually have time to do things like use Summon Ashes.

[@Basidus258]

The unexpected affinity with the Fire Knights GS was holy. For some reason it got a lot more damage instead of fire and flame art, as originally intended

[@cartmandreamer9703]

Thanks man, i'm using that weapon and was worried it was nerfed

[@102ndsmirnov7]

I presume its innate scaling with faith somehow stacked with the faith scaling from holy making it do more damage. Not sure though.

[@102ndsmirnov7]

@@cartmandreamer9703 It wasn't nerfed, they just fixed it. It was doing the hitstun of something like Zwei or GUGS while having the faster moveset which gave it easier true combos. It can still true combo R1-R1 and CR1-R1 if you use free-aim to angle the swings in specific ways. You can look up Godslayer's GS true combo guides for that.

[@haemburger8215]

thx

[@michaelbowman6684]

@@102ndsmirnov7 Godslayer's could never r1 to r1 true combo, it could only ever combo a crouching attack into an r1 which would combo if you angled your camera down and to the right, in case anyone was confused.

[@skaze8653]

Panic nerfing a bunch of shit with no buffs to a lot of other shit that are downright horrendous I really felt something when the boss weapon ranking video only went up to A Most of the boss weapons are pretty bad, pretty disappointing for weapons that are supposed to be the spoils of conquering boss enemies

[@TeamGrimm07]

Because it’s a quick hotfix to the completely broken shit in the game. In a month or two they’ll probably do an actual large scale balancing patch to address the weaker weapons

[@xeuxis8892]

This isn't a big balancing patch. Pretty much everything they've changed they've listed as bugs, meaning it was unintended in the first place. They'll get round to doing an actual balancing patch soon.

[@RodDeWitt]

Hell yeah, I cheesed Radahn 2 days ago with the rolling sparks, im glad that i used it before it was nerfed to the ground

[@juanhurtado7244]

Same. Lame phase 2 fight

[@bladechild2449]

The problem with the Cirques was never distance, it was shitty tracking and going straight into the floor against small enemies. Also have they seriously not done anything with the pointless incantations that do no damage?

[@Deamonder_]

rain of fire is just intended as a rain of uncomfortably hot water I guess ?

[@kratek56]

​@@Deamonder_ Rain of piss

[@spiderjerusalem8505]

@@kratek56, Jarate!

[@YangBalanceYin]

Decent direction, but a lot of incantations and sorceries feel like they are literally not scaling with anything, take forever to cast, and have zero hyper armour. Gold arcs or fire rain do like 100 damage... I hope they approach them next, though the perfume bottles were literally only good because of a bug... which says everything.

[@pixelspy5791]

I feel so bad for faith builds in this DLC, some of the stuff I've seen has been *abysmal*. I watched a streamer run with a faith/int and so much of it was like comically bad. I think electrocharge was doing like 30 damage.

[@blinkjump8723]

@@pixelspy5791 electro charge did 8 damage on a full bull goat for me one time. Single digit damage. That’s like a bare handed smack right there.

[@TalZadios]

Golden arcs isn't that bad but holy shit is rain of fire/electrocharge/Rot butterflies useless.

[@StoniTheOni]

Just use a dagger with endure on it to get hyper armor for your casting

[@marcelomagno9323]

​@@pixelspy5791 or base game elden stars, 50 faith and it can kill a goat maybe 😂

[@hongkong8907]

They've also increased the madness build up you get from Midra's Flame of Frenzy. It goes up so much faster now.

[@BaldurOverlord]

A friend told me about the NPC didn't enter the final boss battle or didn't attack that much so i guess that's the fix

[@simonjohnson3424]

Yeah I tried summoning Thiolier to see if he had any dialogue for that fight, but he just didn't go in until like 2 minutes later and then he just stood in the arena lmao

[@rigel9228]

7:21 As far as i know there was a bug with Thiollier when you summon him for the last boss. He used to just not enter the Arena and some people thought it was Intentional and similar to Patches immediately bailing out in the Radahn fight. Apparently it's fixed now tho

[@Deamonder_]

Didn't see your comment before and made the same, but Patches is intended as a joke while Thiollier AI would just not understand how to get through the fog gate AND DIED FOR NO REASON AFTER SOME TIMES ?!

[@rigel9228]

@@Deamonder_ Not saying i believed it, it was clearly a bug but you know how Reddit is...

[@W.H.138]

@@rigel9228 they are idiots. it's clearly a bug because he sometimes comes in and sometimes he doesn't.

[@tolisdrs330]

Actually he dies because the final Boss uses his Gravity and drags thio out of ground into a free fall

[@tolisdrs330]

Thio was Sometimes to dumb to enter the Fight. But personaly my Hero, without him i would not have won

[@ethanemerson4862]

So Fireknight Greatsword no longer has the light-light combo now?

[@John_T99]

Sadly yes, I just farmed for it last night:(

[@user-zp8kj2cl9g]

The bosses placement means that they will no longer charge directly at you in a straight line the moment you cross the fog gate. They will be repositioned to the spot where they do their "introduction" the first time you fight them. Meaning, they are a lot more far away and give you more time to summon.

[@Xeno1_3]

You have enough time to summon for all of them except radahn before the nerf

[@Hisoblack29]

​@@Xeno1_3 blaid would like a word . That damn dragon didn't give af he is on ya ass as soon as u cross the wall lol😊

[@LifeEnjoyer-jo6yb]

@@Xeno1_3not bayle lol. Summoning Igor and whatever summon you’re using before he bum rushed you was literally impossible unless you had good RNG and he just didn’t attack for 5 seconds.

[@datzfatz2368]

​@Xeno1_3 Gaius and Golden Hippo where the Main culprits for this one id think

[@richardhandcock]

Rolling Sparks is still good, just not totally broken. They only nerfed it deleting everything when aimed at the ground, it's still decent against large enemies

[@vandagylon2885]

Not really

[@richardhandcock]

@@vandagylon2885 I tested it, it still does good damage vs large enemies who can still be hit by multiple explosions

[@chickenmcnastyy6048]

Crazy update, basically they said ‘no more fun’

[@Grimsly3736]

I’m so happy the Sorcery Sword actually works now, testing damage wise it ain’t that bad either 👍

[@HDGaminTutorials]

I dont understand making something so cool as that so ass I'm glad it finally got buffed i was so sad using that thing in pve and pvp was truly awful

[@Grimsly3736]

@@HDGaminTutorials dude same like I had the perfect character for it too (Night Mage that uses the Sword and Glintblade spells) and thankfully now I can actually use it on said character

[@reiddutchess9955]

Damn, they were prompt to nerf some of this 😂

[@jls22147]

My main issue with this is why aren't they buffing some of the trash incantations as well? All of the sorcery and colossal weapon additions are strong but faith builds get ONE thing and it gets nerfed? Thats bs pandering to sorcery and colossal builds as usual. The only decent thing a faith build has now from dlc is knight lightning spear (messmer spear scales better with dex than fth), im just tired of From ignoring pure faith builds and sucking off sorcery

[@noyes2423]

Give it time broski

[@quantumtaint6326]

messmers flame and fire serpent are also really good

[@benjaminweeks8619]

Rolling Sparks was guaranteed to be nerfed along with Split Slash. You could kill the final boss with less than 10 L2s with Sparks. This is typical for From. Also Rolling Sparks was legit broken. The hitboxes from it would stack on top of each other. But hey at least we still have the Thorn spell

[@皮皮-d6u]

Please don’t mention it. 🤫lol

[@jozsefv.6013]

It's next.....

[@Hekk.]

Lightning Perfumes were broken while using rolling sparks. Damage was in line with other AoWs for other perfumes.

[@Xeno1_3]

But now it does no more than an R1, please don’t kill the thorn spell😭

[@Wellymanful]

Kill the thorn spell.

[@justinholdt9765]

The perfume bottles concept looked soo cool and now. I'm sad not the huge damage. But this looked like they went overboard. They need maybe away to add something like special buffs or debuffs by mixing different bottles. Idk just tossing different ideas. I want these to be great. Not OP but great.

[@JSS31M]

It doesn't do just 400 damage like in the video. It's just that you can't aim it at the ground anymore. To do more damage (although nowhere near as much as before) just aim the ash of war normally towards the enemy. I think I was getting between 1500~2000 damage per use at around medium distance Edit: I was testing it against the omens in the sewers. It would work better against bigger enemies since more explosions would hit.

[@Someone-fv3iv]

They definitely went overboard with the nerfs 🥲

[@JSS31M]

@@Someone-fv3iv not really. They just fixed a bug that made the hitboxes stack when aiming at the ground. Now it just works as it was intended in the first place, and I have seen some people say it still works great against big enemies which can be hit by several of the explosions

[@simonjohnson3424]

I wish they buffed the basic attacks of the prefumer weapons. I tried the fire ones out when I found them. I put them at +24 and they did zero damage. They can't even proc the rotten winged sword insignia lol. The poison ones might still be ok but only if you're only looking to proc poison, or the frost ones

[@DasTarnschnitzel]

For rolling sparks: you can still throw them through bosses with large hitboxes and do great damage. It was never intended to be thrown at the ground at point blank.

[@shreeanshmahapatra2313]

So like all of the ashes of war that are good against large hitbox bosses I guess. Well that's good and I hope the people crying about perfumes being completely dead can stop now.

[@burns0100]

@@shreeanshmahapatra2313 No, because you can use the ash of war on a smaller enemy and deal less damage then a standard R1 from the weapon. Meanwhile flaming strike or lightning on a basic longsword deals over 1k damage easily and doesn't take 5 seconds to go off. Seems totally balanced... they just had to fix the ground impact and reduce the unintended 30k damage numbers. Just make it go out straight from the player, deal 1-1.5k damage and it might of been fine still.

[@DasTarnschnitzel]

@@burns0100but they fixed the ground impact, the explosion line now stops when it hits a wall or floor, like intended.

[@shreeanshmahapatra2313]

@@burns0100 The hitboxes stacking on top of each other was unintended and they fixed that.

[@doctorstrangelove9055]

The amount of people crying about their exploit getting fixed is hilarious. Perfumes were never intended to be god tier weapons, they're an auxiliary methinks

[@NOVA2509]

About the thrusting shields and npc summons The shield double hand attack acts both as a block and attack at the same time. Before the correction, this attack would take less stamina damage if you traded hits with an enemy than just blocking making it pretty much the best attack in the game if you connected. As for the npc, some npc summoned wouldn't move until their default standing status was changed, either by attacks of other effects. Extremely annoying if you expected those to help you with a boss fight. Thanks for going through the patch notes, was very insightful.

[@Lord--Farquaad]

I totally get that lol, even though it was obvious that the perfume was getting destroyed in the next patch, they've still spent rare, unrefundable resources on something that's now been rendered useless. I genuinely think you should be given a choice to trade your weapon and receive your smithing stones back every time a weapon you already maxed out gets nerfed significantly.

[@chasekeylime9717]

cry

[@colorpg152]

making those resources unfarmable was a bad idea to begin with, starlight, ancient scales and larval tars should all be farmable

[@oOoSHEPARDoOo]

@@Lord--Farquaad people that put their limited resources into something that was obviously bugged and otherwise bad did this to themselves. We will get buffs for the bottles but this will take longer. Today's patch was just there to fix obviously broken stuff. (Bottles, fire knight gs getting a true combo R1 and the backhand AoW)

[@KaneMeadowsGaming]

My guy you should have known a nerf was coming, one hit took over a third of the boss's health bar 😂

[@skralle8037]

eh fuck from, just use mule saves

[@stargazer1946]

Rolling sparks is still solid if you don't aim it at your feet and use it normally

[@ethanlodge6755]

Because I had used Rolling Sparks on the lightning perfume bottle (I had been running a lightning build, you can imagine my excitement when i stumbled upon the combo) I had decided to test post-nerf rolling sparks on the lightning bottle. While the damage is halved, if used normally I think it's still viable. Consistently does 2000-2500 per cast of Rolling Sparks

[@rk13567]

How are you so quick lol. Also yeah I hope there's a patch of buffs incoming for all the crappy stuff now

[@dars1961]

Especially Dragonbolt of Florrisax, this is the fucking THIRD dragonbolt spell that sucks ass.

[@vector2993]

Well, smithscript weapons are probably unusable now, especially daggers since the damage was already horrible with flame art, sacred or magic

[@ViralMag_Ravager]

Only smithscript weapons previously worth anything was the Discus and the Greathammer. The throwing dagger was worse than the base game, throwing daggers range, and I never tried the RKR trick as I just liked chucking the Discus and hammer at enemies for lols

[@Rincewindus]

@@ViralMag_Ravager The R2s weren't amazing, but the damage on Smithscript Cirque and Spear meant they were worth using.

[@mesadrums375]

Love how the bloodfiend arm basically got a cat scratch and the perfume bottles were completely neutered. They’re gonna have to rework them completely in a future update to make them somewhat viable or else they just made another class that’ll have as much use as bows.

[@GonthorianDX]

Looks like bandaid broken weapon/art fixes and performance fixes for now as we wait for the big 1.13'patch later. Good on them

[@ReferenceMachinist]

It means Giaus will charge in like "I AM GYOBO MASATAKE ONIWA!"

[@tremor230]

Man! You gave me mad flashbacks! 😂 Thanks!

[@LeSpicey]

The summoned NPC one I believe is that sometimes when summoning, the NPC would just stand there and do nothing at all

[@Dumle95]

Inpenetrable thorns and that new magic AOW untouched for anyone looking for broken builds lol

[@yinlo5876]

If that thorns damage is actually as intended, I'm never going to switch build😂 even without the bleed it does like 3k near enemies

[@killjoy295]

It's damage is only really crazy at point blank tbh, mid range it's still decent though, Reminds me of the Wing of Astel ash of war being a literal nuke on big bosses as well as poise breaking in 2 hits.

[@jcman-lp6lg]

alot of these nerfs were in response to pvp... like the smithscript. they should have kept some of the nerfs seperate from pve instead of nerfing it for both side imo

[@Nic9458]

I hate that they didn’t buff any of the useless incantations but I am glad they buffed the smith script daggers, I was pissed when I finally found them just to not be able to hit anything without being in greatspear poking distance and at that point I may as well just use melee instead of the “ranged” daggers

[@EeveetoUmbreon25]

Im so glad that i decided to go ahead and use the bloodfiend arm to beat the final boss yesterday😭😂 time to switch back to the Night sword.

[@JDamajer4208]

Thrusting Shields used to take no stamina damage during their attack. So you would spend stamina on the attack itself but any incoming attacks were basically being blocked for free.

[@Lazypackmule]

"Who knows what that means" It means they start the fight in the same position when you walk through the fog gate as when you first encounter them, as opposed to standing on the exact opposite end of the arena

[@thousandblunts]

The first fight just means instead of the running boar coming straight at you when you enter the fog he'll come from the left as if you entered that area for the first time

[@jdlman123]

Rolling sparks going from thousands of damage to 305 is crazy. I expected a nerf, but now its less than light attacks basically?

[@neoism]

soo glad i max like 3 of them yesterday with 3 anicent stones -___________________________________________- really thinking of not undating lol making them useless is bullshit. nerffing was needed but to make them useless is fucking BULLSHIT wasted my fucking mats for nothing.

[@Deamonder_]

Perfume bottles are so dead x)

[@Miki-hk6vy]

​@@neoismdon't update, no gain at all. Literally nerfed everything, no fps fixes in areas that needed it and just all around underwhelming

[@yulfine1688]

because hes not using it properly you're not meant to use it at the ground, they fixed the overlapping hitboxes, use it normally and it does fine

[@cortesyes]

Y’all have to understand that this is not a balancing patch but mostly bug fixes. Meaning that this is how rolling sparks should have been from the beginning

[@mylespeel9263]

They need to fix the dry leaf seal not working for light of miquella

[@ViperXtreme]

maybe the summoned bug is the one near fort of reprimand, where a ghostflame dragon is fighting mesmer's army with black knights. Any summoned npc there just stands and doesn't react, they only react when attacked then de aggros again and becomes idle

[@morgen_t]

26s ago without notifs on is crazy, keep up the work fr

[@GameBooAdvancePlus]

It wasn't common, but I'd sometimes get perfume invaders hit me with a jumping attack and getting hit with one cloud of it would instantly kill me from full 60vig health so its good that double damage bug was fixed.

[@TzeentchLordofChange]

yeah, its fixed for the player... npc perfumers unaffected

[@death-thresh9548]

It's crazy how many people get upset that they can no longer kill a boss at the press of one or so buttons with 0 brain activity.

[@TheR6R6R]

Pretty damn concerning to read through the comments. All the 'nerf' wording isn't helping, considering it's an actual proper bugfix to a known unintended exploit.

[@christophersebastiao7501]

Shows you people don't like to earn victories legitimately. They're bad otherwise.

[@xfrankenstein6981]

@@death-thresh9548 people would be way less upset if they were actually balanced rather than just tickling the balls of an enemy. Aow was only thing it had going for it now it does fuckall dps and rip to those upgrade mats. +I don't really understand how 1 person 1 shot ing a boss in their game affects your enjoyment of the game?

[@Invader_Hex]

@@xfrankenstein6981 dude that is not the point, the point is you ARE NOT supposed to one-shot bosses with anything, rolling sparks was never intended to do that much damage at all, it was a bug so ofc they fixed it. You are over here acting like it is normal to be able to one shot every boss in the game.

[@fatty1040]

Of course these comments jerk themselves off at being good at the game 😂 Its about the fun aspect of these weapons. They didn't have to make them completely useless. Just admit Fromsoft fucked up. It OBVIOUSLY needed a nerf but not to be buried under 6 feet of concrete like it's a cursed object

[@Deamonder_]

OH MY GOD ! Thiollier will stop commiting suicide when I summon him against the final boss ?! THANK YOU ! That dumbass would just refuse to cross the boss gate sometimes, even dying somehow lmao

[@Random_NPC187]

I tested Gaius already and you now can actually do something before he spawns right into your face. Earlier if you tried to summon any Spiritash, you couldn't dodge his first dash. Now he spawns in the top left Corner of the arena allowing for a fair opening.

[@kimashitawa8113]

hope a new patch is coming soon with buffs

[@lharsay]

4:55 Also lost the S scaling on occult.

[@taxfall]

hopefully the summoned npcs mean that in the final boss fight someone wont just stand outside for 5 mins

[@filecro6934]

They nerfed bloodfiend blood arm from b to c scaling in arcane and it now has 200~ bleed build up at 99 arcane

[@charlybanquet5388]

yeah, so it's not a nerf at all lmao

[@shreeanshmahapatra2313]

@@filecro6934 Does it even count as a 'slap on the wrist' nerf? It's almost negligible lol.

[@ohexenwahno5652]

It used to have 213 at 60 arcane. My guess is it won't bleed in a single heavy anymore.

[@charlybanquet5388]

@@ohexenwahno5652 and ? it's still a busted bleed weapon that can break stance in 2 heavies xD

[@johnbaker1901]

I had 223 bleed build up at 70 arcane, haven't logged in yet to see what it's at now. Edit: it's now at 204 blood build up. And went from physical damage 305+461 = 766 to 305+413 = 718

[@halsariph]

Why didn’t you try rolling sparks as intended to see how it works? Like go up to a big enemy and use it so it goes out like normal and they are hit by multiple explosions due to size, as it was meant to be used. Does that behave the same as before?

[@JuggernautTheOgryn]

Yes it does, it still does incredible damage if you use it properly and against a big enemy with a big or multiple hitboxes (exactly the way it was intended to be used)

[@Jay_daewi]

So for context when fighting commander boar dude the first time he has an animation where he rides out from the back side of the arena, but if you die and try to rematch he spawns right in front of the fog wall. So that’s what they changed for that one

[@Jay_daewi]

And the npc summon bug was summons like thiollier would get summoned and quite literally stare at the wall and not do anything. When I summoned him against the final boss bro didn’t move a single inch and didn’t even get hit a single time by the time I beat the boss.

[@Tidz13]

Appreciate the speed at which you did this, you've earned my sub for sure

[@groundzero1198]

1:40 it means that if you die and re-try the boss, the boss will start in the samee position as the first fight instead of starting from a different position To explain it further, the first time you fight Morgot he is in your face at the start of the fight. but if you die and re-try he starts pretty far from you. Same concept here, but applied in the opposit way

[@Orciwan548]

The hippo grab was weird for sure. Don’t know if it worked for anyone else but diagonal dodge through his mouth and behind him worked every time for me. It was only side dodging that felt buggy.

[@leoh4940]

Disconnecting from the wifi before booting up ER tonight thanks

[@wilfredwayne7139]

Same here why make the game less enjoyable for myself they won't be adding anything no pointless to update unless you do PvP.

[@Miki-hk6vy]

Agreed not updating until the next patch, no performance gain and nerfs to both my character(Perfume and Bloodfiend's Arm)

[@shreeanshmahapatra2313]

@@Miki-hk6vy If you watched the video you know that the bloodfiend's arm was barely nerfed. It's like 20 less bleed build up now which is negligible. And rolling spikes is still good against large bosses just like nebula........ Well if you are among the ones that wanted to cheese and one shot bosses to clear the dlc then I can understand you getting upset.

[@Balance-dt7jr]

@@wilfredwayne7139 So so funny. The same people who told others that they suck at the game when they think it´s too hard are now whining like little girls that they can´t use OP stuff anymore.

[@davebeans64]

@@Miki-hk6vyBlood Fiends arm is still good.

[@Rafael57YT]

If you aim rolling sparks on perfumes to the ground they just do 1 instance of damage now. But it still works great on large bosses (like the envoy's horns do) if you target their body. For smaller enemies most of the attacks will whiff. Omens are not big enough to get all attacks to connect, but trolls are.

[@lolh4x]

The Gaius change is so fucking nice. I ended up just cheesing the charge with Vow of the Indominable because the hitbox of the charge makes no sense and he spawns SO close to you.

[@orangauvain1121]

Didn’t fix miquella light spell

[@burns0100]

Didn't fix any spells or incants.

[@Deamonder_]

@@burns0100rain of fire being waaaaay to useless, it's getting popularity from how shitty it is lol

[@jonmann4980]

I truly don’t understand why they nerf stuff that almost exclusively affects PvE just let people be overpowered no one is forcing someone to use the OP stuff 🤦‍♂️

[@spracketskooch]

True. I used perfumes for a bit, and then said, "nah". Then I had fun trying different things for the rest of the play through.

[@shreeanshmahapatra2313]

@@jonmann4980 Because it was unintended. The hitboxes stacking on top of each was not intended at all. It's still great against large bosses which was intended.

[@Deamonder_]

Someone who finally speaks english !

[@HopefulNihilist]

There's no way lil bro is advocating for broken weapons (broken in the literal sense of the word: not working as intended) to NOT be fixed...

[@Deamonder_]

What's wrong with that ? Does it impact negativly your gameplay experience that someone enjoy the game in a non-PvP setting one way the designers of the game didn't think of ?