NEW ENDING Confirmed?! | Attack on Titan | AOE Explained

[@TurtleQuirk]

Thanks for watching! Do you think the branch timelines in AOT should be explored further?? 🤔

[@salifyanji2893]

Maybe ?

[@aaronlloyd6021]

Erwin part 5 plzz

[@mrcheese9008]

Imagine if in one timeline eren instead of turning into a colossal form. he turns into a gargantuan centipede titan and then kills the rest of the scouts. I feel like this centipede form would probably look like sage centipede from opm (One punch man)

[@shujihanma2564]

Yes I think that would be a great idea just to explain everything clearly

[@nicklopez3133]

Yes.

[@Agent_3141]

Imagine if the multiple timelines theory was true. That means the manga and anime are connected canonically. Has that ever happened in another anime/manga?

[@IN-tm8mw]

Fate Series, Rewrite Series, BlazBlue series, Clanned After Story and Neon Genesis Evangelion. This is from memory of shows i watched over the years because i like that theme of connected timelines told over mediums like TV, movies, manga, games, books.

[@azenar1894]

Neon Genesis has 4 endings, the TV ending, EOE, the manga and the rebuild

[@bread-lover69420]

Not an anime but I know that in the Lovecraft country series the source material book is canon and it's written by the protagonist's future son.

[@billyred889]

@@IN-tm8mw I think they mean the endings are intentionally connected rather than just being different

[@IN-tm8mw]

@@billyred889 Each series tells a story with multiple endings but eventually find a "true" ending because all ending were connected in a way that the protagonist found a way to find happiness. That in essence makes each "different" ending cannon. New watchers might just think they're not related but as a long time fan, i can see the connection and themes that carry across the mediums.

[@Kielkeeppushin]

So when eren woke up from a "dream" in episode 1, he actually just restarted, thats sick man, love that one

[@himanshugupta-zu1lt]

Yes i think he restarts all of this, but this time without titans and living a normal life.

[@zephyx5514]

Bro respawned

[@furiousdestroyah9999]

*Sad Subaru sounds*

[@zidanerizalalghifaryalghif3248]

@@himanshugupta-zu1lt then that would either be the world where ymir let's fritz die or the modern world

[@Kielkeeppushin]

@FIGHFANNERD 9 watchu mean

[@Binyamin857]

The good ending The bad ending The neutral ending The true ending

[@eclips_total2215]

That might be it

[@takemikazuchischannel]

Meanwhile the pacifist ending...

[@mangakapoint]

Are you making this Sekiro? 😂😂

[@Ale-dd3ek]

@@takemikazuchischannel pacifist in AOT?

[@jellybeanpfpgangsupporter1967]

Eren is basically a mass murderer version of henry

[@aaeeither6644]

This makes AOT even more hype. Knowing that we've all seen like 3 different timelines without even realizing it makes it 10x better to me.

[@patrickb6775]

Your ability to clearly narrate this complex story is amazing. Is this just raw talent lol?

[@TurtleQuirk]

🤣🤣 I appreciate it I really do

[@shawn3333]

@@TurtleQuirk the toys are from children of the tybur family possibly

[@Алексей545-т6б]

@@TurtleQuirk To be clear, in manga those 2 last chapters look like a disaster partionaly because Eren\Mikasa relationship look like forced strech and come from nowhere. Mikasa love Eren? So what, that mean he MUST love her back(just because he is main male character?). Nope. For 100+ chapters they have never have a romantic BOTH-sided scene. Until chapter 138 it was one sided relationship. . What wrong with Eren\Micasa relationship? Well, it completly break Mikasa's plotline and her development as a character. Her whole character arc was to grow up from Eren slave until the point where she could break free from Eren and start her new life without him. Isayma should made Mikasa a Hizure princess for some reason (because he could easily avoid this without ruin the plot). In actual manga this plotline fell in abyss just because and Mikasa end up being Eren's slave for her whole life...like fucking Hatico. How fix this failuer? Here comes Hizur plotline! Hizur should become a new start for Mikasa(mayby with Jaun) . More then that - this ruin Eren as a character. From badass Vader lvl antagonist to ugly crybaby from twiglight series. Honestly, what a fuck with those " I dont know what i'm doing, i'm just dot want Mikasa forget me! sob*sob*"...It just pathetic(also ruin Armin as a character and their clash of belives) . . What about Historia...Well, in manga we though her role would be important and her child would made a huge influence in overall plot, but...Historia became a huge dissapoiment. Her character is ruined, her plotline dump into trush and mean nothing...This was a disaster - why you even write a plotline, focusing us on certan moment if in the end it mean nothing?! . What hinder on Eren\ Historia relationship? Well, start from begining: . 1)During uprising arc, Eren build a huge respect to Historia as a strong will person. You can see it from s3 ep11. In many way's they are both simular, share the same responsibility, doubts and will power to reach their goals(while Mikasa play to be Eren's mommy). Historia is the one who save Eren from lowest moment in his life and so did he few years later. That's why Historia was the only person aside Floch, to whom Eren reveal his real plan. Because they can understand each other. Couple of greatest villians in human history. Selfish people who lives for themselfs. Historia is the one who save Eren from lowest moment in his life. . 2)Next we saw a huge consern wich Eren show toward Historia. He hide critical information about way to use Founding titan from Military even after he get memories from future. His confession come only after Elena hinds about this method. But even then Eren stand up against Hizuru plan and was the only one who protect Histroria(wich make cry). . Whole Eren plan is wrap around Historia: why Eren create Yegerist and plot the Uprising?! Zaclay goverment was very effective in it rule and you have no need in bunch of fanatic nazi lunatic militarist in empty world where no enemies left alive. Especioly if it cost grave danger to start a civil war inside Paradis. Eren could easily start Rumbling without any of this happen. He could done this in Liberio during his meating with Zeak. All this Festivall circus and Yegerist uprising was not nesesery at all! One and only Eren achivment here is Fall of Zacley Goverment. I have only one logical reason for this - that would save Historia from using her as non-stop babymaker. In this case, almost religion zelots Yeagerist with Loyal Floch, serve as FORCE to protect History from anyone who want use her to get Founding Titan Power in future after Eren death . This show us how important Historia is for Eren. You can lable this a general consern for close friend, BUT during manga a lot of his friends suffer from his actions - find themselfs in grave danger, get injured (Levi, Falco), or even end up dead (Sasha, Hangi). Eren hurt his friends A LOT, so he could achive his goal, so WHY HISTORIA IS SO IMPORTANT FOR EREN IF HE PUT HER AS FAR FROM ANY KIND OF DANGER, AS POSSIBLE?! . 3)About Historia pregnency - Isayma always keep some mistery around her pregnancy. Time and time again hinder us that we have some spicy stuff happend around her. Why her pregnence perfectly much up with Eren departure to Marley? I mean if it was only for sake of the plan to keep Zeak alive, Historia could became pregnant several months later without any difference in terms of plan(it would gave Zeak and Eren more time instead). And Isayama as writer would never write something like this if this does not matter at all. Historia get pregnant from random dude she barelly knew? What!? And if so - why tease us with doubs of Military Police and Eren\Historia scene? What the point in any of this? . Answer is simple.This plotline is connect with Historia development in Uprising arc. In that arc, Historia became a person that live for herself, shape her own destiny and never again she would try become conviniant to other people desires. By cruel unavoidble circamstance she forced to became pregnant (if not by her own wish, then threw brute force = rape). This is her lowest point like Eren had in the cave, where she nearlysubmit herself "for greater good"(exactly like Eren with his "Eat me Historia and save humanity!"). And like last time Historia save Eren from himself, Eren now do reverse to her. . So how in this situation, when pregnecy is inevitble, Histtoria can stay true to herself? How from writer standpoint you can develop your character to new highground instead of complletly ruin it's previos grow?Easy. This should be HER OWN choice to make child with man she truly love( or at least choose). Can this man be a random nameless armer guy she barely knew from her childhood? I doubt so. On other hand you, have man wich was ready to sacrificy Paradise safety to put you out any kind of possible danger... . 4)Never get this whole Mikasa\Ymir connection. For me this was the plot put out the ass and force to us as viewer. On other hand - Historia and Ymir...Simular fate, similar fucking name(Krista), similar circanstanse (force to born children ). Alpha and Omega (First and last royal blood). Like fake Ymir open eys for Historia, Historia threw her example could teach Ymir how to live for herself without any of Stolgolm bulshit sindrom from Ymir end . . So, yep in my mind (and from plot logic) Eren\Historia tradgic relationship with Mikasa able to move on and start a new life without Eren

[@Not_obligated2care]

@@Алексей545-т6б Aot is one hell of a drug ain’t it…. Lmao

[@warmachine2016]

@@TurtleQuirk when will part 5 of what if Erwin became the colossal titan came out ?

[@unbentsign7194]

This makes a lot of sense now that all the facts are laid out in front of me. I really do hope that you are right, not only because it would be really nice but also because I would be able to live in peace knowing that AOT wasn’t spoiled for me and playing along with a theory seems really fun.

[@soap2510]

When someone who was talking abt the manga ending without any spoiler warning spoiled the ending for me i was pissed but now i just hope this theory is true and i won't be anymore. But i won't be man either way i guess cuz the animated version of the rest of the show is gonna be epic

[@dalkent3417]

This theory makes no sense because of multiple elements which are totally forgotten in this theory : - The dream Eren had in the very first episode is different because Wit wanted this scene to be frightening, without having any influence on the story. As it was said in 2013, the show was at best in the Uprising Arc, so there was nothing like an alternate timeline at that time. - Eren isn't the father of Historia's child. He always only had Mikasa in his mind, he will never change how he sees her, even less for Historia. Plus, he was in Marley when he got pregnant, and depiste men bragging about their "sword's" size, it will never be long enough to cross the sea. The toys you see in his vision from the future are featured in season 4, if i remember correctly they're Xsaver son's toys. - The Goth Mikasa, Nerd Armin and hot spring boys are just some fan service, even in the manga. So it is safe to assume it is the same in the anime.

[@darencolby1916]

If this theory is right, that would mean AOT was still spoiled for you

[@jacksonxavier261]

@@dalkent3417 you are right

[@dalkent3417]

@@PokeLibras Dude, you're not even trying. Plz come back once you've read my previous post and try to argue again. Thanks

[@FoxyGrandpa1]

If they were to do AOE, I just want them to flesh out the original ending a bit more. For example, give characters a little bit more closure and let everyone know what happens to each character. Also, explain the Ackerman powers. I’d be satisfied with that. I fear if they try to do an AOE with no direction, it could end up worse than the original ending, which I don’t think anyone wants.

[@davidmason4244]

That's like polishing trash.

[@Ciorno2K]

@@davidmason4244 💀

[@TurtleQuirk]

Totally agree with this, would be great to have closure on Armin especially. Kinda crazy we have no idea about his life even after the extra pages! When it comes to the Ackerman powers though, I think Eren’s ‘explanation’ is as good as we’re gonna get 😅

[@darrylbonner7208]

I agree with all that jazz

[@Xman-0124]

@@davidmason4244 Based. Polished trash is still trash. 😂

[@furiousdestroyah9999]

There are 2 possible scenarios: Either Isayama has been planning aoe for a very very long time or all these connections and hints dropped throughout the series were just pure coincidence, the first option just sounds much more likely to me

[@zacharymartin7757]

I really hope it’s the first one, aot would be even more of a masterpiece.

[@klynlovelace7040]

Strong evidence is goth mikasa and armin are animated. We thought they were manga easter eggs, and now we know isayama works closely with mappa. That directly confirms that multi verse is real. Also the mikasa "dream" was tagged as prologue to chap 1.

[@mouse7965]

i mean aot was based heavily off of muvluv which has an alternate ending, its absolutely possible

[@klynlovelace7040]

@@mouse7965 and isayama played life is strange

[@CoIIinGoff]

I just think there is way too much coincidence, especially since there is a confirmed 2nd timeline.

[@jeffm7007]

My original ending is just 16 year old high school student Eren Yeager wakes up after a weird dream about the movie he just saw with his best friends Armin and Mikasa, immediately followed by an announcement of a 26-episode commitment for an Attack on School Castes anime written by Isayama.

[@naufalalbari]

That'd be dope as hell

[@thehermitman822]

"Who shot J.R.?"

[@klynlovelace7040]

Isn't this the beginning of school caste manga lol

[@Neha-zc4yq]

haha that would be therapeutic

[@royalobasi1938]

that's isekai shit, I like it

[@squaddegenerate5000]

Making it a new ending but then also connecting it to the manga ending via paths and making them both be confirmed different timelines would be awesome and the best outcome for everyone

[@Mr.Needle-Hamster]

That would be pretty interesting 🤔

[@johnnyboi290]

Dude that would actually be pretty interesting and would be win win for everyone

[@leylabaghirova9466]

even if they dont do it its guaranteed that in some other timelines theres a way better ending so dont worry if theres no AOE there are other timelines that are technically canon and you can believe in

[@attackontitanbeautytheking2725]

I really do the believe that there's multiple timelines, I think Eren is aware of the timelines, in the last episode of Part 2 Eren says "Everything has happened according to his will" this is a huge difference from the Manga as he says in the Manga he says "Every was set in stone"

[@neardarkroad1347]

Did you refer to original Japanese scan?

[@bugz5587]

If they don’t do an AOE all I ask for is they play the track “call your name” when mikasa is carrying Erens head towards armin.

[@PM-rx3up]

cannot even imagine that scene without that song..

[@mackmenezes4912]

That's worse

[@thehermitman822]

"Industry Baby"

[@jayveonwalker4204]

@@mackmenezes4912 how😭

[@cyndixx]

@@jayveonwalker4204 because the scene itself is trash. They shouldn’t be showing eren any sympathy or letting him rest. The man just committed genocide and what he got was a quick death and mikasa’s family visiting him and keeping his memory alive for years and years

[@emoanimeboy2173]

I honestly love the multiple timelines "theory" and at this point I feel it's just canon, like there's too much stuff that proves it, the facts Eren can see the future before being a Titan only makes sense under this theory, and yes the differences could just be coincidence....but come on it's AoT, nothing is ever a coincidence

[@evanevanf4033]

Wait isn’t the multiverse the worst thing to happen to fiction?

[@Baykko]

It is canon. The scene where Eren and Mikasa live the rest of their days until he dies is part of both the ending of the series and the very first chapter, at least in the manga. Since the anime changed Eren's dream from the cabin to random memories, it could turn out in the anime there are no separate timeline. Then again, Mikasa's headaches are supposedly related to this power.

[@lassehoffmann625]

@@evanevanf4033 imo in marvel and dc comics it is really good most of the time, so definetly no, it just leaves room for more things especially ways to fuck up everything in unsatisfying ways

[@evanevanf4033]

@@lassehoffmann625 well fine, it’s not always terrible for example: maybe there should be a “wicker man” plot but in an alternate, evil dimension

[@gladiusinvidius]

@@evanevanf4033 A multiverse and timeline are not the same thing, I guess you can call timeline more of time travelling

[@sanketvaria9734]

hi, I am from the future 1 year to be exact. the final special 2 released and it's same as manga.

[@attackontitanbeautytheking2725]

Isayama stated AOT is basically Muv Luv Alternative and in that game the MC, that Eren is based on, is also stuck in a time loop. In the game he fails and 80% of humanity dies(sound similar) then in the next timeline, the MC lives and saves humanity but he sacrifices his friends in order to win. He even has a daughter with a woman who has royal blood.....sound similar It very likely Eren could have more than one love interest because in Muv Luv the MC had different love interests where it effects the story based on who he chooses to be with

[@TurtleQuirk]

Wow 😯 I knew he was a fan of this series but hadn’t properly looked into it. That storyline is *eerily* similar

[@attackontitanbeautytheking2725]

@@TurtleQuirk very similar hell the character mikasa is based off of from Muv Luv can also manipulate timelines

[@amon__7187]

​@@TurtleQuirk video comparing the 2 series?

[@jackslater4152]

@@attackontitanbeautytheking2725 There is no evidence that she can manipulate timelines. You just said there was.

[@attackontitanbeautytheking2725]

@@jackslater4152 Look up the episode OVA of Lost Girls, it's heavily implied she can.

[@LordYeager_55]

When you mentioned how Eren could crystalize himself with the Warhammer, and just use a cable to control the found while he regenerated his body, I instantly remembered someone using that exact same concept in a fanfic that I read a few months ago.

[@dahmiabulola3812]

what's the fanfic

[@harshiljoshi6743]

@@dahmiabulola3812 I think fan fiction

[@Polymerata]

@@dahmiabulola3812 a fan fiction

[@hamIindigo]

@@Polymerata He doesn't mean what a fanfic is, he asks what's the fanfic OP is mentioning

[@overtime3137]

Isn’t Eren inside the founders mouth though? It’s not like he could just disconnect to himself to whatever’s keeping his decapitated head alive.

[@SenshiSquad]

Absolutely loved this one amazing content man

[@zavthe1371]

imagine loving the "it was all a dream" ending lmao

[@Vegeta_Fan13]

4:20 the thought of a titan just building a house is so funny

[@StairSet]

Very very well thought theory, I just truly think the anime is only expanding upon things by showing more and not trying to change things; only enhance.

[@aotgoat3267]

In manga when eren becomes founding titan he forms from up to down which means it's a normal transformation but in the anime he forms down to up which is warhammer

[@aotgoat3267]

@Fea†her When they first show his titan skull yeah right after that they show his head in mid air with his titan about to form look at that clip

[@Ayoun-Faisal-061]

@Fea†her yeah , he is right , it was formed from down to up

[@TheBlackfall234]

@@Ayoun-Faisal-061 The Hallucigenia literally comes out of his Head and goes from there. Other then that we dont see anything from the transformation. How can you people unironically spread wrong information, just because you want your fanfic to make some sense ? The only thing thats certain here is that the Hallucigenia came out of Erens head wich is the Top. Then we see the walls and lightning and the next thing we see is Eren already half complete with his transformation. Not a single thing indicating that his transformation went from down to top. In Fact the only single Indicator we have (hallucigenia) indicates the Opposite.

[@TheBlackfall234]

@@aotgoat3267 Also your claim makes no sense because the Hallucigenia came out of Erens Head... Why would it still transform from down to top ? We literally dont see the actual transformation or anything that indicates that what you claim is actually correct. The only indicator we have of how the transformation went was the Hallucgenia and that came out of Erens head...wich is the opposite of Down if you didnt know. Other then that we see lightning and the walls but no transformation. The next thing we see is Erens Skull and parts of his Body and how he goes up into the Air. Still no indication that the Transformation happend from down to top.

[@TheBlackfall234]

So for your claim to make sense, Erens Body would have to be alive and then somehow connect to his head ? Even tho we see his Head is the Part of the Body thats alive. Otherwise youre literally saying that he transformed out of thin air at the bottom and then connected back to his head ?

[@serpentious]

I have an addition to explain how the titan powers vanish. Ymir sees Eren as her saviour and using the powers of the founder reincarnates as Historias baby. Historia would name her Ymir after her lost love and after the battle and rumbling ends baby Ymir is told "you are free" like the last panel and now she is out of paths no new Titans can be built.

[@mohamedelhediissa289]

I see that happening as mikasa still chops eren's head off and ymir sees that but the difference is by combining the attack titan and founding titan eren brought the consciousness of his young self to his head inside the final titan to lead the rumbling (that's why we see child eren in paths and in chapter 131) Essentially tricking ymir, mikasa still killed eren but just a different version (after he dies he just wakes up shocked at the beginning of the anime) and the real eren regenerating his body in shiganshina by using the method reiner used to move his consciousness away from his brain as he heals. Then the whole ymir reincarnation and continuation of the rumbling happens. Also the rumbling essentially having 2 rounds can be a reference to him saying "fight...fight" and hanje pointing out that it means he has 2 fights

[@DaMugix3]

@@mohamedelhediissa289 omg god please please PLEASE let it be the real ending 😭🙏

[@mohamedelhediissa289]

@@DaMugix3 like it makes way too much not to happen 😭 And it takes "plot armor" moments that only happened once (reiner moving his consciousness and the Warhammer titans cable) and gives them actual plot relevance not just "I need to think of a way to save this character at this specific moment"

[@DaMugix3]

@@mohamedelhediissa289 honestly the current ending was so rushed and left so many plot holes, it feels like Isayama was just dying to end the manga already. I just wish he'd have patience to write a different ending to the anima considering how popular it is and how much money it makes. One can only hope 🥲

[@mohamedelhediissa289]

@@DaMugix3 definitely agree. Hey he now has a second chance to fix his 13 year long book and give it a proper closure I seriously just want to move on instead of randomly cringing at 2 am thinking how such an amazing work got such a bad ending

[@DAVISITHO1520]

There is no alternate time line. The scene in the woods was eren pulling her to the paths and showed her what their life would´ve been if she confesed, similar to what he did to Armin later on. Similar to what Zeke did to him. There is only one timeline. Even Eren himself says this to Armin at the end; no matter what he tried, the result always remained the same. This video came out after the manga ending, so I feel you didn´t quite understand it.

[@CZRJah]

yo i genuinely like this channel bc yall have proof and state FACTS. Other chanels stretch the words ALOT

[@sv493]

So, in the alternate timelines, there is one where Mikasa marries and has a family with Eren growing old together, one where they are high-school sweethearts, and one where Eren ends up with Historia rather than Mikasa. Basically, Multiverse BS can literally allow anything to happen.

[@Tahkaullus01]

There is one glaring issue regarding Eren being Historia's baby daddy that literally everyone ignores but shoots the entire thing to the bottom of the Ocean: Timing. If we are to assume that the Scouts were in Marley for a year before Eren stomps on Willy, that means he would have to have gotten back to Paradis in secret and knocked Historia up and then gotten back to Marley _and enlisted in their military_ all within three months. Logistically speaking, that is impossible. He would need a ship to go to Paradis, which will never happen, and then he needs a ship to get back, which will also never happen, meaning he would need the Azumabito's help, meaning they were complicit in his Rumbling Plan, which is frankly so high over the shark we might as well be flying. And before anyone talks about his flashback talks with Historia and Floch, that happened _before_ the expedition to Marley, not after. If he made the decision after the fact, why is he so insistant on now likening himself to Reiner? It simply makes more sense that he is no one's baby daddy (sorry Mikasa) and that his decision to flatten the Earth was based on a childish desire to be able to do whatever he wants. A Peter Pan situation.... only in this case, Peter Pan can turn into a giant eldritch horror to get what he wants.

[@ailius1520]

A *more* glaring and funnier issue: The mechanics of doing the deed. Whenever Eren and Historia touch each other, even slightly, one or both of them get a rush of memories from past lives. If they were to attempt coitus, they'd get to experience 2000 years worth of memories of everyone who happened to have either the Attack Titan, the Founding Titan, or happen to be royalty.

[@jesustoosleazyyy5052]

@@ailius1520 😂

[@ThatGuyThai]

@@ailius1520 thats partly what supports my shipping of them. They have to touch to gain further knowledge. If I knew that and there were enemies outside the island it would be internationally needed just for greater information access. They start with hands and move forward and more memories form through touch as they bond. This never happens sadly but was my theory back when we were waiting for print.

[@aaronyayger]

Yeah your "dismantling" kind of falls apart in the first sentence. You're assuming that it's a year. Based on what exactly? It could easily be even like 5 months he was there. You're reaching a bit. Even in the manga there is a moment where they talk about Historia getting pregnant earlier than she said.

[@everhall306]

@@aaronyayger To be clear, though, Eren and the Scouts left Paradis for Marley 10 months before the Second Battle of Shiganshina, 9 months before the attack on Liberio. The source for this is Commander Pyxis - when he interogates Yelena about when she met Eren (which occurred just before the left) he says how she did so after the railroad opening celebration ten months prior. The timeline just doesn't match up for Eren to be the father.

[@davidgarcia-pu2ev]

This would explain the quote in the Rumbling “I never wanted to be the king,I swear”

[@micahhong5354]

Turtle quirk your like a news reporter bringing us the latest Attack on Titan news.

[@isomi3981]

7:16 I’ve heard many people say that in this particular scene was Lara’s memory considering that she is from a nobel family, this scene could be from her childhood or another. Since Eren is seeing things from the future in this, this could be after future Eren ate Lara and had gained the war hammer’s power and the shifter’s memories. But this is not confirmed if I’m not wrong.

[@strawberry-blues2924]

Or inherited memories

[@omar-gj5gc]

Eren didn't have Titan powers when he saw it so I don't think it is honestly

[@mouse7965]

something that important would not be laras memories, shes really not that important

[@measlesplease1266]

Why would they show something so unimportant?

[@sista363]

And he also has historia's half sister's memories too doesn't he? His dad ate her and then eren ate his dad. So that could be historia's sister's (i forgot her name sorry) or Lara's memories too.

[@aotgoat3267]

The rumbling stopping for zeke getting killed makes no sense when ymir litrally didn't obey zeke even though he is royal blood which means zeke dying shouldn't of meant anything

[@georgeallen8385]

thats what i thought

[@zookchannel4843]

plus eren transforms again without zeke which makes no sense to me

[@georgeallen8385]

@@zookchannel4843 maybe killing zeke did nothing and eren just used it as an excuse to stop the rumbling so the alliance can win.

[@aryan-zi1dn]

Are you dumb bro, he still need a shifter with royal blood with him connected to use the power

[@piss_blood3191]

@@georgeallen8385 That doesn't make sense either. It would imply that Eren stopped the rumbling purposefully to let his friends win. Which is..... really dumb. Did you really have to kill 80% of the world to prove your Eldian friends are good? Wasn't it revealed that Karl Fritz and the Tybur family conspired to free The World from Eldian rule? AND EVEN AFTER THAT, THE WORLD STILL WANTED TO KILL ALL ELDIANS. They didn't care that Eldians were the ones who saved them. They still continued to hate them lol. Which is why Eren wanted to the rumbling in the first place, because he knew that the world would never stop hating Eldians. So wtf!?! Hahaha. "The same history... the same mistakes.... Over and over." Kruger's warning came true. Which makes me wonder if this was all intentionally done to set up for AOE. Or, if the ending is meant to be a PSA to recognize our own bad history and learn not to repeat it.

[@मृदुलशर्मा]

After reading the manga, at the very end when Mikasa killed eren and then kissed him hits really hard. And then his chat with Armin is revealed where he didn't actually want Mikasa to be with anyone else, it hurts even more.

[@Light_Yagami666]

Thats why Eren should Live! Even if they changes nothing they should Keep Eren Alive this time !

[@EREH_537]

​@@Light_Yagami666lol he can't live , even if he does he will have to die in 4 years no matter what the timeline is eren will die

[@Realletsplaygrey]

This makes so much sense, it's wild how you can piece this all together. I truly wonder what's going to happen. I absolutely LOVE the idea of multiple time lines, especially considering the differences in chapter 1 and episode 1. Let's hope its true to some degree!

[@wojtekreliga3881]

Are you interested in this idea for next episode? "What if Carla Yeager survived attack on Shiganshina?" (if Eren and Mikasa managed to release her from house's hardcore) Would her life change Grisha or Eren behaviour?

[@ChrisTheGent901]

What about if Eren let Dina eat Bertholdt? You get another Titan with royal blood and if her and Grisha connected 👀👀👀

[@wojtekreliga3881]

@@ChrisTheGent901 When it would have happened?

[@ChrisTheGent901]

@@wojtekreliga3881 Same time as above. The Attack on Shiganshina.

[@ChrisTheGent901]

@hari singh bisht great point! Didn’t even think of that. That point alone has me thinking of another hypothetical: If the warriors didn’t run away when “Ymir’s” pure Titan ate Marcel.

[@hyninjax4897]

@hari singh bisht and reiner were there too

[@Matt-ov1qp]

It's not that I don't like the AOT ending. I simply think the AOE makes more sense and is a better ending. I also don't think an AOE is a retcon but rather was always intentional if it happens.

[@outdatedboat]

They'd need an extra episode or something to explain all the time line stuff or a decent number of people will be livid and screaming it's a retcon. I think if AOE is real, it'd be smart to be like "no, go back and watch/read these things. It'll make more sense"

[@thehermitman822]

@@outdatedboat They would definitely have to do a great job of explaining Mikasa as a resetter through Ymir.

[@lanceventures2452]

exactly!

[@jackslater4152]

Literally nothing about the aoe makes sense. It's shipper nonsense. The theory was created by angry EreHisus who wanted their shitty ship to become a thing. But luckily for the rest of us, this story wasn't written for EreHisu clowns.

[@Matt-ov1qp]

@@jackslater4152 you're only providing your needlessly incendiary bias rather than anything useful

[@carlos10571]

I before chapters 133-139 were published, I did think that Eren was remotely controling the founding Titan from Paradis Island. Then when the Rumbling was stopped due to Levi killing Zeke, he would emerge and meet Historia's baby, carry him and resume the Rumbling with the final panel being him carrying the baby and telling him "You are now free."

[@Ale-dd3ek]

To use the founding Titan you Need: someone with the Founder + a Royal Blood person Who has 1 of the 9 Titans The baby has no Titan so nothing would happen

[@mtgleam8723]

@@Ale-dd3ek The theory says that when Zeke died the baby inherited the beast titan.

[@Michel-pe9yp]

After watching this video I appreciate the ending even more now.

[@withmun9611]

If Eren and Mikasa get a happy life together, i need nothing more than that. At least it gives me peace.

[@annett_55555]

impossible

[@maskassmario321]

Eren and Mikasa is such a lame relationship.

[@maskassmario321]

Mikasa is basically a dog who can't think for herself. Would've been much better if he made Historia and Eren canon.

[@maanha-tx8dg]

@@maskassmario321 manz stuck on season one

[@merakiiiii00139]

average erehisu shipper 💀im sorry but eren and historia do not look good together at all, eren and mikasa is better, and i dont even ship it. @@maskassmario321

[@RaymartPlayz]

"Mikasa will still love him even though he's a mass murderer." lmao

[@kaiden8257]

Your explanation of the timeline theory is the best version I’ve seen so far. I’ve seen people say that Eren will kills is friends to achieve his goal which is something I hate. I don’t see Eren killing his friends to that and I think it’s out of character. If we do get an AOE I hope it’s how you explained it.

[@TKTF]

I’ll be here again when we get an anime only ending as I’m looking forward to that, if it doesn’t get it I’m fine with the manga ending

[@sleepywalker87]

This is- a concept I never would’ve imaged, it oh my god this sounds so cool, but it also has so many layers of pain in it that these two have never been able to be happy in true since the “Original Timeline”

[@therussiangod8619]

I hope attack on titan had a new ending in the anime turtle Quirk thank you for this video love your videos

[@Primusprime160]

1:51 Actually every single shot from the path entering scene is from the past, none of them are from the future. The falco's titan shot is from the manga timeline, which is the previous timeline before the anime timeline.

[@ManfredVonCapitalist]

The fact that put the sponsor at the end of the video just earned you a sub, underrated move right there

[@rayanebenayache]

Your take is wow ,i loved this video ,thank you so much from heart for your efforts ,i think its too logical and must be the reality in the anemy

[@ghamdi7077]

Turtle, if you went to 0:56 in the AoT official song Red Swan with the name of Zed Astaroth. You’ll find Grisha and Carla with a baby with blonde hair and some pink dress, are they in the Paths, with Eren’s child?

[@falu891]

This is a really great theory but i doubt Eren wanted to encase himself in crystal like the warhammer did because he knows marley has the jaw titan or know of falcos possesion of it therefore he I think he would be very cautious about this

[@keytendegraef982]

He’s the founder he could break out at anytime

[@falu891]

@@keytendegraef982 that doesnt mean anythign if he enased himself like willie tybur did and he ate her he probably inherited this also meaning he would be eaten by the jaw easily

[@falu891]

@@keytendegraef982 the founder doesnt have any effect on the warhammers abilities also

[@RJsupersonic]

i think if that were to happen then eren would just take away falco's powers

[@freefallmatter]

AOT manga ending and AOE both have its pros and cons A mixture between these 2 storylines will deliver the perfect ending Lets talk about some pros of both the stories 1. Manga ending keeps Eren's character intanct and doesnt just show him as a homocidal madman who cares about people close to him 2. AOE revives Armin's character in the most perfect way 3. AOE also gives historia a crucial role in season 4 Cons 1. AOE more or less feels like a chad eren glorification 2.manga ending doesnt do justice to Armin's character who has being groomed to take erwin' position 3. Manga ending sidelines historia like nothing The anime ending should basically eren's wish whilst keeping his original character intact amd also give the 3 main characters of the show equal importance

[@Dark_Boba-chan]

10:16 Zeke: ayo! I'm still alive! Levi: nope! *Decapitates him*

[@skullgirl-]

I would never be able to figure this out!😭 good job!

[@ThatAsianGuy68]

Dont gloss over Eren seeing Falco fly to fort Salta among his past memories. If those memories are past memories then the "future" memory is actually a memory from the manga timeline

[@nicklopez3133]

I'm for a AOE. Ever since I found out about The Curse Of Ymir, by watching the anime, I was hoping that Eren would have at least 1 kid before he died even if he didn't get married. Originally with Mikasa. But sadly that that didn't happen in the Manga. With a AOE that is possible again. Though now I'm a much more open minded person and Eren doesn't has to have kid(s) with Mikasa. Am very much open to him ending up with someone else. It'd be ideal if Eren could somehow escape/undo The Curse Of Ymir. That way he can have a long life with whichever woman he end's up with and could marry her. If indeed Eren is still ultimately bound by The Curse Of Ymir then it'd be nice for him to settle down with someone and have at least 1 kid while he enjoy's what time he has left. If a AOE does happen then I'm more likely to love it if Eren has a family of his own.

[@mackmenezes4912]

You know what fam Considering all the people on the internet who are AOT fans you are the most logical person out there The others are a bunch of Simps who don't get the story just want their ships to be true

[@nicklopez3133]

@AN1003 To each our own.

[@nicklopez3133]

@@mackmenezes4912 Some people just hold too tight to what they want to happen in an anime.

[@mackmenezes4912]

@@nicklopez3133 While there are some people who accept anything even if it does not makes sence in the context of the story

[@nicklopez3133]

@@mackmenezes4912 That's true.

[@tvbroekhuizen6980]

The most convincing facts that yams had something different planned for me is the warhammer titan and it's specific power existing, and Historia giving birth at the same time as zeke dying. If not for another ending (whether only planned and discarded or planned to be adapted muv luv style in the anime) what is the point of these things existing in the story? Why not just give the warhammer the hardening power instead of the tether. Where in the manga story was it used besides from the one time we saw Lara use it? Same for Historia giving birth at the time of zekes death: why is it relevant to show it at that time? If it represents a theme of death and rebirth, or the people of Paradis being saved by Eren's sacrifice, why not show it at the moment of Eren's death instead? That would be a much more striking contrast in my opinion. In addition, a lot of authors have two things in mind when writing a story, the beginning and the end. Filling in the gaps is much more workable than having to retcon everything on the go while weaving consistent themes into the plot. In conclusion, it would be wasteful to have created these plotpoints without there being a use for them. I hope they prove to be very useful.

[@jackwalters5506]

I don't think the cabin timeline is as simple as Mikasa giving a different answer to his question, there would definitely have to be other differences that make him value Mikasa alot more so that he would run away with her, since in the manga/anime we know that he told Historia he already decided to go through with the rumbling before he went to Marley, and it seems incredibly unlikely that he would say that if it wasn't true. He would have no reason to lie to her about that

[@ninjaishproductions2.053]

The thing that makes me question this theory is the fact that it would only feel like a good ending if the viewer is familiar with the manga and the OVA's. Otherwise they will need to judge the ending of the anime on its own. Quite frankly, any ending where eren survives and gets to live a life of freedom would be horrible and a violation of the themes in my opinion. Even with the added context of the manga I still think the themes would be violated. I think the best way forward is to make the same ending with maybe some minor changes to improve some parts of it

[@himanshugupta-zu1lt]

Exactly with making eren ,Armin and Mikasa last moments peaceful and satisfactory with eren, so that eren could die peacefully, giving their talking more time. As we can't deny the fact the eren had suffered his whole life and he had rights to know mikasas true feeling for her. I just want that in last moments eren and Mikasa should spell their heart out.

[@himanshugupta-zu1lt]

Actually we need to understand the burden of eren here. From the kid he saw his people dying for saving eren himself, which wasn't erens self wish. He owed his life to lost soldiers of Paradis island who sacrificed themselves for saving eren. And hence he had right and clear goal to make their sacrifices meaningfull he had to do anything even if he loses his freedom forever. Also in this whole series isyama never made eren the hero and showing only his good side. But he saw him as a practical human being who have good sides and bad sides both at the same time, which each and everyone living being on this universe have. Actually it's true that this was his fate which he tried to change, but death of Sasha conformed and cleared his mind , and made accept his fate and made himself ready to bear the pain of becoming villain for the world by forcefully killing them all. Because it's true that we can't stop it and we need to keep moving forward. Actually if we see it's the whole reality of life as humans are strongly bonded to their fate .This series consists of lots of learning and had played the role of mirror to our society and world.

[@Neha-zc4yq]

agreed. i hope isayama doesn't comply to fans' desire of eren's survival - but then again the man has carried out many tragic arcs so peer pressure wouldn't really be a factor of how the anime's ending plays out. then again though, it would be interesting to see the multiverse incorporated into AoT's ending... also the boy (presumably mikasa & jean's son) who encounters the same spinal creature that gave ymir her founding titan power. it's all an inevitable and eery loop (and this is evident in the first chapter where eren wakes up from a "dream"). but ngl, being a mythology geek, i'd love to be surprised by some mulitverse/norse mythological references.

[@MightyElemental]

Holy crap, this AOE theory would have been so much better than what we actually got.

[@KS1M1R4]

DUDE, IF THIS IS TRUE AND CANNON, THEN AOT GOES FROM BEING MY ABSOLUTE FAVORITE AND A F**KING MASTER PIECE AND THE BEST EVER WRITTEN STORY TO BEING EXACTLY THAT BUT ON A WHOLE NEW LEVEL I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO PUT INTO WORDS. I HOPE THIS THEORY IS TRUE, CAUSE IT HAS THE CHANCE TO DO IT. AOT SIMPLY KEEPS PUTTING ITS PEAK HIGHER AND HIGHER.

[@mackmenezes4912]

That is why us true aot fans wanted from isayama ,but he didn't give us that instead he gave us a simple ending

[@klynlovelace7040]

Alot of fans really disapprove multi verse theory when the evidence is all over the place and the moment the series used time shenanigans theme, multi verse is almost certain because those are always correlated to each other.

[@darrylbonner7208]

I’m making an alternate Universe of a another person becoming the first Founding Titan and having a will of their own.

[@mantroo8010]

I really liked it, although all of this is hiiighly unlikely, I think the anime will be the same as the manga

[@Shingeki1323]

This totally changes how i look at AoT... mindblowing

[@wanderingbufoon]

I'd like to see that Eren is basically Ymir's final and yet first creation. It just didn't come into fruition until the end. How else would Attack Titan be so far removed from the rest of the Titans. How they function outside of the royal authority despite Ymir having complete obedience to them. Even more so with the true power of Attack Titan being able to transcend time and interact with any Attack Titan much like how Eren influenced Grisha and how he did the same to Ymir. This Ymir is still the little girl rather than the adult one. Meaning that she already knew what was going to happen way before she was The King's concubine. This also meant that Eren can even manipulate himself. A future Eren showing him what the future will be like and as to why he would be getting glimpses of the future and influencing his drive to push on forward. Whether or not Eren is Ymir's creation to avenge her or Eren's OWN creation (even starting with Ymir from way in the past) is another issue. A bit like the whole "egg vs chicken" brain teaser.

[@thehermitman822]

The egg comes first. A mutation happens that creates the chicken that then starts the line of 🐔.

[@dobrik8233]

​@@thehermitman822 it´s more of a philosofical question than a scientist one

[@maniekan]

if it does become the true ending ( anime ) it means that the manga ending had to happen for eren to see the past mistakes to fulfil his future timeline, I cannot wait for all the manga haters to sit there in disbelief haha

[@Vetrexx]

W

[@l.m.5974]

Crazy theory, wonderful narration. Love this video!

[@itswhatever1737]

Why I think AOE is possible 1. See you later never animated in episode 1 2.Eren wakes up from the position he was buried in the manga ending 3. Ackermans cannot be influenced by "path dreams" so why was she shown a "dream", dreams are also a code for memories, for example Falco dreaming about being one of the scouts. 4. Multiverse/timelines is literally canon, making lost girls one of the canon timelines 5. Memories that weren’t adapted in the manga properly, have been adapted as anime only scene. For example, memory shard of Historia’s eyes is an anime only scene. 6. There are actually noticeable changes between the anime and manga, but songs and music videos such as Akatsuki No Requiem has to be the guide to help you figure it out. 7. BLACK BIRDS AND THE LEFT AND RIGHT PATH (if you know, you know AOE hopers)

[@Incredblis]

Can you explain the 1st point please

[@dakotajoachin4157]

@@Incredblis 6:54

[@itswhatever1737]

@@Incredblis The start of the manga is very different to the start of the anime In the manga he sees a vision of Mikasa saying to him "See you later" and that part was used to foreshadow how Eren dies in the manga ending. The anime starts with Flashback removing the see you later thing completely, so how would they foreshadow his death in the anime when "See you Later" timeline was the foreshadow for Eren’s death in the manga?

[@jackslater4152]

1. Because WIT didn't even know if there would ever be a season 2, so they went with a short-term pay-off. 2. And? When s1 one was made, the author was still planning to have them all die before reaching the basement/ocean. 3. This is simply untrue. Ackermans cannot have their past memories altered or erased. Simply going to Paths is not memory alteration. And Mikasa literally entered Paths two times prior. In case you forgot. Also, the Falco scene was a meta moment. To account for the drastic change in setting. 4. The point of Lost Girls was to tell Mikasa that she couldn't change Eren's fate (death), no matter what. If you believe that Lost Girls is canon, then you cannot believe Eren will survive. You can't have it both ways, pick one. 5. What? You mean the scene where she looks like a scared hamster? That shard's in the manga. 6. There are always changes made when adapting something. This means literally nothing. At the end of s1, WIT changed the Stohess battle to make it more hype, to have the season end with a bang. Or did you ever see the rage titan again? "songs and music videos such as Akatsuki No Requiem has to be the guide to help you figure it out." Yeah, the author hid vague clues in music videos he didn't even create, write or direct, so random EreHisu shippers in the west (the target audience) could figure them out. /SARCASM 7. Black birds are common symbolism. But taking the direction in which they fly as proof for anything is grasping at straws.

[@itswhatever1737]

@@jackslater4152 1. Isayama is deeply involved part 1 and part 2,he was checking storyboards and wrote according to Hayashi "A4 sheet worth of feedbacks". Don’t you think he would have taken the opportunity to ask MAPPA to include "See you Later" for the ending of the anime? 2. I never mentioned about him planning to kill them all before the basement, what is your source? The position of how Eren wakes up in the manga vs the anime is actually acknowledged by MAPPA and Akuma no Ko MV, where MAPPA reused WIT episode 1 in episode 87, when they redrew lots of WIT frames. 3. Ackermans can not have their memories manipulated but they can still enter paths, they are still eldians however they can’t be fully accessed by the founding Titan due to their Ackerman blood so yes, that paths dreams would actually be a retcon of what is actually established unless it can be explained in some ways like it being a memory that Mikasa has lived before in previous timeline, the Cabin Timeline. Even MAPPA acknowledge this when they gave two different frames of chapter 126 Eren and Mikasa. One looks like Eren and Mikasa were closer to each other and one wasn’t as close and in fact are further apart. The one where they look closer was the cabin timeline. Falco scene is not Meta when it was ISAYAMA himself asking it for the change, if you haven’t noticed the scene was changed from the manga. 4. Also the butterfly in Lost Girls told Mikasa if she didn’t like the outcome of this reality she can always make another one. This is a case of the butterfly effect. Isayama once said he loved playing "Life is strange" the game. Guess what? They have alternative endings based on your choices. Where does the butterfly appear again? In the opening of the Rumbling.It’s not the only thing there, there’s hints from a hyponist that has a mirror face, reflecting Mikasa, saying she can’t protect Eren and that it will be in vain while telling her to kill him so that she can return to the real world. Eren saying that a great power will kill her in the future. Isayama said AU caste is Canon, making School AU a canon timeline. Goth Mikasa and Nerd Armin appeared in Paths Memory shards per ISAYAMA’s demand. 5. No, there’s a small shard of Historia’s eyes in the manga that has never been explained in the manga, BUT, it has been explained in the anime as an anime only content. (The scene where she is in her chair looking over the sunset) 6. Yes there have been noticeable changes in the anime, in the manga, Eren relied on his friends to defeat Annie, in the anime, he is relying on himself to defeat Annie, hence the berserk Titan. Even the adaptation of 130 removed "even if it was set in stone" and "everything is still ahead" in the anime and replaced it with "everything happened by my will". Lastly, MAPPA keeps the colours of the manga, example, Mikasa with BLACK Scarf in Eren’s memories and when Eren raged saying "I will destroy them", if you rewatched the episode, his jacket is black when the flashback, he has brown jacket. This is MAPPA’s subtle way of saying the anime and manga is different. And no it’s not a mistake because Isayama approved it himself and would have corrected them himself because he was THAT involved in the storyboarding process. If you haven’t noticed, the visuals of Akuma No Ko references Akatsuki no Requiem and the visuals of Yuugure no Tori. For example, all of them mentioned or SHOWS Abandoned Paradis after Rumbling 100% is done. 7. Black birds is an anime only thing, white bird is a manga only thing. White bird in the opening flies AWAY FROM ANIME EREN meanwhile the Black Birds FLY TOWARDS ANIME EREN. Even Yuugure no Tori references the right and left path, the right path shows a clean scarf while the left path shows a BLOODY scarf. The changes with the Falco scene also acknowledges it, the white bird in the manga flew AWAY from the danger meanwhile the black bird flew TOWARDS the danger. Another noticeable change between the anime and manga.

[@rei-ef6xm]

Yeah let’s just have Mikasa go against Eren for impregnating another woman as if that wouldn’t be a huge disservice to her character. What a way to reduce her into a scorned woman. The reason she went against him and didn’t join the yeagerists was because she didn’t support mass omnicide. Despite her still loving him, she learned to let him go and ultimately killed him which is both cruel and beautiful. This is a much better conclusion for her character than whatever a bunch of redditors theorized. Also when was it ever emphasized that Ymir didn’t have the courage to do something about Fritz being with other women? Do you know one of the things that was actually emphasized? Ymir stopping to look at a man and a woman kissing each other.

[@Vetrexx]

L

[@asuraspath2262]

I disagree actually, Mikasa's character after S1 was literally going downhill, she was becoming a Mary Sue as well were she was gifted with titan strength and she is apparently royalty. Her character in essence is centred around Eren. She killing Eren is good and all, but she could never move on and her wearing the scarf that her "beloved" gave her is bad writing. Ymir was apparently waiting for Mikasa even though she sent those messages to Eren lol.

[@Kiriki10]

Mikasa didn't learn shit. 139 chapters in which we see her go into regression and becomes overnight the one that Ymir had been waiting for 2000 years

[@jackslater4152]

@@asuraspath2262 > I disagree actually Of course you do, because we all know aoe is in reality about hating Mikasa and wanting her to die a brutal death. You people aren't fooling anyone. > Mikasa's character after S1 was literally going downhill The vast majority of her most important moments happened past s1. You just don't like the fact that she was always in the way of Stacystoria and your garbage tier ship. > she was becoming a Mary Sue as well were she was gifted with titan strength You clearly don't know what a Mary Sue is. > and she is apparently royalty. And what benefit did her "royalty" bring her? Money? Power? Nah, nothing. Not only that, she literally said "I'm not interested in that shit". Unlike Stacy.

[@jedi_joy3347]

@@jackslater4152 jack hanma

[@Ruby-art]

Everything but Eren and Historia having a Baby, for some reason this makes me feel uncofortable ._. he doesn't need to be the father to make sence. I'm sad that Eren dies at the end I wish he would stayed alive and told Mikasa his feelings but the ending on the anime should be the same as the manga but with more information about some stuff that wasn't explained.

[@MrMetaVal]

Honestly if they do an aoe I'm for it. The ending was extremely disappointing but if they flesh it out and remove some unecessary unsatisfying contents (some of the extra panels- Eren breaking down, the comedy at the end etc...) then I would be for the original ending

[@kaanskbg]

actually eren breaking down was one of my fav parts

[@davidmason4244]

How, it made him a simp.

[@neontyler6663]

Like u?

[@MrMetaVal]

@@kaanskbg good for you then. For me I liked the idea but the execution was dogshit. He litteraly had 138 chapters to developp Eren and Mikasa relationship and he fumbled it. Only peoples who are satisfy with it are peoples creating their headcannon

[@mackmenezes4912]

@@MrMetaVal don't listen to these AOT fanboys ,who just started watch AOT and binged it only to see the waifu quality and love dynamics(cuz it sucks) Every true AOT fan knows that Eren. X Historia is freedom ,if you get the context of the story and the build-up

[@LiliumCruorem]

So AOE is Area of Effect usually in reference to damage dealt semi-passively in a certain radial vicinity around the player character. AOE builds are great for quick clearing lower level content for speed farming currency.

[@GPEGEMGTM3]

I always thought the attack titan "future memories" power was actually the ability to see events from previous timelines, and thus there are no time paradoxes

[@Hassan_San]

Bro this actually makes so much sense now that I look at it.I also have a theory that the panel in the final chapter in which Grisha holds Eren and tells him that he is free is actually Eren from another timeline(Anime Timeline) saying that to his child with Historia or more likely with Mikasa after the battle is finished and there is some kind of a happy ending because that panel was originally what Isiyama planned to be the final page of the manga

[@BunnyFlowers]

Eren isn’t the father of Historia’s child

[@Adolh_Filter]

I Won't hope for an AOE cause that would hurt more, but please flesh out the last chapter a bit more especially Eren and Armin's conversation in path. That would make me more than happy.

[@TheBlackfall234]

in my opinion fleshing out the end would be more then enough. Heck, the additional pages Isayama added a couple of months later actually made me think "you know what, its actually a "good" ending". It was all in line with the themes of the Show. Cycle of Violence going on, but its still worth fighting for a brief moment of Peace. Life is cruel but also beautiful and while Humans act in Contradictory ways at times, you can still find good and bad in every single human. I dont think the ending makes no senseat all. People usually crying over the End for banal reasons like "i dont like the comedy at the end" or "Eren loving Mikasa is just forced on the viewer"... while then acting like its totally plausible for Eren to bang Historia and ignore everything that makes this utterly ridicoulus (like the time issue, or how they share memories if they touch each other, or how Eren would "prefer" Historia because that would somehow be "true freedom" ignoring the Fact that its proven to us that Mikasa loves Eren out of Free Will)

[@Adolh_Filter]

@@TheBlackfall234 agreed. People hate the ending mostly because of the ship. As for the ending it was rushed. So it needs to be a little fleshed out

[@timetoskrill5770]

@@TheBlackfall234 Yea what a great ending, nothing mattered and Eren achieved nothing. Horray! Why did we read it again?

[@TheBlackfall234]

@@timetoskrill5770 Why did nothing matter ? Becaue your Messiahs didnt create a Utoptia ? Just because Eren didnt create Eternal peace doesnt mean he achieved nothing. Wether things matter or not lie in your own Hands. As Erwin says : its us who give meaning to our comrades lives. After all its always you who decides if things matter or not. Can you explain what you expected and then please why that would matter ? Listen, we all die at some point - by your logic that means nothing matters at all. Would you say that ? If so, youre probably depressed. Horray, are you capable of getting anything out of Media at all ?

[@timetoskrill5770]

@@TheBlackfall234 Ok I make a comparison here. Lets say in Avatar the Last Airbender Ozai defeats Aang at the end and he wins. Would you still be stisfied altough Aang didn't achived something. You still got a story but the protagonists actions didn't change anything. If the protagonist doesn't achieve anything why am I watching his journey? And no him destroying 80% of the world doesn't count because it doesn't change anything for the people of Paradis.

[@veeraltiwari2935]

I just finished AOT yesterday (I am still in awe of this show). Bro u tried real well to justify the anime original ending but it just doesn't make sense AT ALL!!! Glad they went with the Manga Original Ending.

[@whizzyQuincy1290]

This is a great channel I should subscribe.

[@isaacbabb6910]

Sounds like Steins;Gate Correction after fully watching, it's just like Steins;Gate

[@revolvershalashaska1805]

I don’t think it’s in Mikasa’s character to turn back on Eren for baby with another woman. I think she’d let it slide. It is truly her choice, when she does it not because of anger or pain or loving less, but because she still has all this feelings and still really connected to him, when reality of what really matters (her friends, the world, innocent people etc.) manifests itself and she chooses the world. She chooses with love, to him too.

[@SonGokuVsBattles]

be honest eren and mikasa should have gotten together

[@TheBlackfall234]

@@SonGokuVsBattles Historia having Erens Child is also really just a stretch. Irony being these people say the original Ending makes no Sense and claim that t he Eren/MIkasa relationship was never really there and only forced upon us at the very End....coming from people who think Eren would bang Historia...based on what exactly ? Because they talked a couple of times ? People who "hate" the ending are not even close to being as objective about it as they pretend. Seems to me, that most of them just want the most grimdark Ending possible and not an ending that actually concludes the story in the best way possible.

[@Nightmare4edits]

@@TheBlackfall234 yea if historia n eren end up together it will just look like a forced couple for humanity and historia than love interest for a ending series

[@Megaeryn]

@@TheBlackfall234 I still don't understand why shippers thought that Historia, who respected Eren and Mikasa's feelings for each other (and low-key encouraged it) would betray her closest friend by banging her bestie's crush. I just don't. The idea completely destroys their characters but toxic fans insist that it makes sense and should have happened in the story.

[@evanevanf4033]

@@Megaeryn well how does historia get pregnant? By that girl somehow?

[@AlexxVevoo]

To be honest I like the overall ending of aot I just want the anime to flesh it out A LOT. Make the battle have more suspense, change a couple small bits, and just extend the last chapter a bit.

[@Daminionz]

what is the ''overall ending of aot'' ? There isn't one, not that we've seen. Eren being decapitated ? Eren living for few years with Mikasa on farm then dying ? Eren dying from air baloon accident ? Which ending? That's the point of this video, idk if you watched it even xd. So many ppl commenting nonsense

[@AlexxVevoo]

@@Daminionz I'm just saying my personal opinion nothing about the video.

[@FreddyFazbears0_0]

@@Daminionz I mean, him living with Mikasa for 4 years would be quite depressing... but at the other hand, I would consider it as a good ending. Imho it would be perferctly balanced with the overall eerieness of this series.

[@gavinjenkins899]

100% rumbling never made sense, there aren't enough titans to cover the entire circumference of the earth. They have to mow it like a lawnmower back and forth. So you can just go around the side and behind them. Some significant number of people even if they didn't know it was coming would always just happen to be near the end of the line.

[@robertneamtu5330]

You’re giving me so much hope

[@safilan8643]

I like many others believe that Eren having a baby to use for his plan is not what happens but instead it's the other way around. Because Eren has a child he is determined to finish the job this time to secure her future. Eren was against children being born just to be used. That's one of the reasons he opposed the 50-year plan. Even if he ultimately used his daughter to restart the rumbling her very birth wouldn't be for the sake of making her a tool.

[@EM_C123]

te contradices con lo que dices al final, ademas ¿Eren para que tendría un hijo con una mujer que no ama y acaba de traumatizar?.

[@pars3696]

Don't forget the German king outfit that anime Eren saw in his dream.In a comment I read a long time ago, it was written that Eren's being in Kristal on the island of Paradis was not suitable for him.It said that Eren would be where he was rumbling himself.Then I thought of this. While Eren was killing his father in the royal family in his conversation with Zeke, Eren saw this in his memories and felt that his father did it.So Eren doesn't need to be physically in the Rumbling location. He can rumbling through the crystal from the island of Paradise. He can also feel like he's there.

[@kokazon6522]

I just want Eren to be happy somehow, even if he can never be forgiven. He’s gone through a lot of shit and needs some peace of mind. Also Mikasa needs to end up with him at some point, she’s literally been in love with him for years. I’d also like to see Gabi become a key part of the committee to fix the world after the war crimes the two races have done unto each other. I liked that her character serves as a piece of hope that there can be understanding between the groups. Also, Levi, Jean, and Hange are some of my favorite characters so I’d like to see what they do long term. They deserve happiness as well. ALSO!!! I kind of feel like there could be a way for eren to live past his titan “deadline”. We know that changers can only live for like 13 years but what if that simply isn’t true? Couldn’t the Marleyan military have made that up just so that no one person could be powerful forever? Because we never see somebody die as a result of living past their “deadline”. They always get eaten as per Marleyan custom/thinking. I’ll admit, I’m a simple person who likes a good happy ending. I don’t like endings that are pure tragedy. So if some strings could be pulled and some worldbuilding proven to be false, I’d be all for an AOE and the chance to see characters from one of my favorite animes happy. But if you prefer the original, more depressing ending, I understand where you’re coming from. This is my opinion, and if you disagree than please do so politely 💚

[@nicholasleclerc1583]

Also, the 13 year deadline was dependant on Ymir’s specific life and relationship with the *symbiote* , not parasite; I feel like maybe she can change that

[@Matt-ov1qp]

There already was a chapter/timeline where Eren was happy with Mikasa so that should hopefully help. There likely is no ending where Eren is happy for the entire story, however. In the chapter Declaration of War Eren is essentially fated to act and suffer the consequences of Reiner. The story has basically foreshadowed heavily that Eren must suffer for his choice as a consequence unfortunately. I believe that must be true whether there's an AOE or not. It was true of the manga ending, despite the protests of fans, and I'm thankful for that as it was necessary for the story to make sense.

[@mackmenezes4912]

Simp

[@thehermitman822]

No mass murderer deserves peace.

[@annett_55555]

If timeline theory is true mikasa needs to be punished or let mc go. Being together ruins both eren and mikasa characters. Eren doesn't owe anything to her. He doesn't have to love mikasa back

[@riduanaqil1452]

I would really love to see an anime only ending especially with how much it differentiate from the manga

[@Baykko]

I dont think It will end diferently. The whole reason time is looping is because Ymir is conceding Mikasa's wish to allow them to live together again and again. Only when Mikasa let go of him by severing their bond herself, she allowed for the power of titans to disappear. I hope they do a beter job presenting this in the anime because it was so confusing in the manga that many people hated it. And if anything needs actual fixing is the ending where the power of titans might come back, otherwise the whole Ymir/Mikasa plot makes no sense.

[@Audioversearchive]

Going along with the same thought process of him seeing the other timelines unfold and learning from those mistakes. Mikasa could totally yop his head off like in the manga, but since eren knew about that he could do the thing Reiner did and move his consciousness before she does. Giving the same result for Ymir, but saving erens life.

[@paulportman3754]

You're right. They literally introduced that ability for Reiner once and then never used it again. It felt like such a waste when it could have been used in a really cool way in the ending.

[@MegaMario051]

Damn so much could happen the possibilities are endless, all this multi-timeline/universe stuff makes this all so meta. An original timeline, the manga, the anime, & then lost girls & the fact that it's all connected in a canonical/chronological sense. Jeez this feels so unique although it'll be hard to get a satisfactory ending. Hopefully when the time comes the anime ending is something we can accept more easily, but all we can do now is hope for the best at this point. (Ps Happy late B-day to Sasha sense this was uploaded on 7-26-22, 🎂🤎🥔.)

[@mackmenezes4912]

The only satisfying ending is give eren his proper character conclusion

[@lanceventures2452]

​@@mackmenezes4912 exactly

[@NuwaHWeil]

"Meat" 😭

[@evanevanf4033]

The endlessness is the issue with the multiverse concept in the first place: it over complicates things

[@khanhnguyen5599]

Nooo, u forgot the meat emoji;( Can u pls add it? :)

[@Vortex_ICEcold]

This is so like life is strange. I read somewhere that isayama got inspired by life is strange 1. In the game there are two girls who like eachother. One of the girls is fated to die. The main character tries to use her powers to rewind time to prevent her death. Eventually a big storm comes (rumbling in this case) and the player is given a choice whether or not to let the town (aka Marley) they lived in get destroyed or the main character can choose to let fate take its course by letting her friend (aka eren) die. In manga mikasa chose to kill Eren for the world. But since there’s no see you later memory, she will let the rumbling continue. The alliance will most likely all die including our main characters. Mikasa dying will lead to no more worlds being created. Eren severed fate like explained in lyrics of akatsuki no requiem. Eren eventually passes. And that is how I feel the ending will go like.

[@HelloArt3mis]

The toys in the royal room memory is one of Lara Tybur's memories, which Eren inherited via the Warhammer titan

[@noctemnymph]

Gosh this is absolutely brilliant!

[@biglarry862]

It’s not like I’m wanting this to happen out of spite of the og manga ending i want this to happen bc no animanga has done it before on this level. And this also makes the most sense for it to have a AOE.

[@worldoftitans4891]

I agree. I actually like the manga ending and I don't think this theory is likely. However, if Isayama planned this all from the start, or even as he went along, alternate realities would take the story to a whole new level.

[@jnicophene]

I’m good with the manga ending but if AOE is true that would also be cool. Hopefully it’s a timeline where the rumbling doesn’t destroy most of the world. AOE is honestly a cool idea. If it doesn’t happen that would be cool too

[@zachun]

POV: Eren dies of old age and Mikasa starts coping and creates a new timeline Attack On Titan : Reborn - Movie

[@Blacklla]

Still makes no sense for the Ackerman to be memory wiped when I thought they couldn't. That was why Fritz tried to kill them

[@cameronDarkTrio3fan]

Turtle Quirk: If you are going to make more AOE videos here are some sources for you. Zerokay: kzbin.info/aero/PLBbuy1Hl7s5MmS5WGMutDE0Yff-C-0UEA Edit: Here is another guy, Xilrusher kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJDJZqVrm8msqrs kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpKahWWNbNhle6s

[@avorix98]

Unpopular opinion.. but I like the new manga “history repeats itself” ending. The idea that with all the different actions that they’ve taken just for it to be done all over again is a cool concept. Plus I got chills seeing that tree

[@justaturky2890]

Wait so when everything repeats its self does that mean it's the same people doing the same things

[@ItsNoobManYT]

@@justaturky2890 No, the subjects of Ymir are now free, but the Subjects to whoever repeats that history again will be cursed with some kind of power.

[@herbnfizz4113]

I see the manga as the set timeline where everything happens the same way over and over again and the anime is a timeline in which finally something changes meaning Eren finally achieves freedom and his choices actually matter.

[@TheXCrunner14]

love the video. just letting you know: a guy from a page called Nutshell Anime ripped off this video almost verbatim and posted it as his own.

[@myaparker5510]

I look forward to your review on attack on titan no requiem part 3

[@theakiwar9118]

Erens death and grave were foreshadowed in the very very first chapter. I am satisfied with the ending

[@Blueshark_F532]

Hey turtle quirk, after rewatching aot til part three of the final season comes out, I noticed in the first episode of season 4 falco says that he had a dream where he was flying threw the sky fighting titans with a couple of swords in his hands (two) so I belive this was a reference to the scout regiment. But if that is true, how was he able to see that? I think it has something to do with the paths connecting every Eldian.But that can’t be possible because the island eldians had no clue about the paths realm. I was wandering if you could make a short video or long video on this theory. It is killing me so I need to know.

[@TheBlackfall234]

why would the Island Eldians have to know about the Paths for it to make sense ? Its like saying "if you dont know it, its simply not possible".

[@Blueshark_F532]

@@TheBlackfall234 bc at the time of this a founding titan needs a person with royal blood

[@toast2492]

Yeah I was so confused abt that

[@Vetrexx]

Im pretty sure it will make sense in the anime later.

[@Blueshark_F532]

@@Vetrexx yeah your probably right