New Film Cameras Coming in 2025

[@OMGitsmercer]

A new Ricoh GR point-and-shoot would be amazing.

[@metalfingersfilm]

fingers crossed*

[@asap_mattt]

stop with P&S PLEASE - no mooooore, market need something serious

[@GrainOnTheGo]

The Nana isn’t premium it’s literally just an overpriced reusable in new housing. I’d just save the dollars and get reusables or film. It’s predatory for FND to be doing what he’s doing. And people can continue to claim it’s original but a 31mm f11 and that exact body layout and shutter speed and yea it’s a 10$ camera being sold for 200$+ don’t support that please, for your own wallets sake and the community in general.

[@SoybeanGravy]

It’s a complete scam. It’s been obvious since they started showing off the ‘prototypes’ and Gary’s behaviour surrounding the accusations levelled towards it has been less than professional to say the least. The nail in the coffin was Gary self-funding the kickstarter, something which is very much against kickstarter’s policy.

[@GrainOnTheGo]

@@SoybeanGravy agreed.

[@metalfingersfilm]

😬

[@WittyDroog]

I can't speak to the ethics of FND but the *concept* is fine, even as a rehoused reusable if it's metal that still puts it above stuff like the M35, also having motorized advance is nice. But I do agree that if someone was new to film (which is what this is targeting) I'd recommend some of the more characterful reusables like the RETO Ultrawide (which is like 30 dollars) or the Kodak H35N before reccomending this

[@czelendzerii3985]

@@WittyDroog My brother in Christ they are selling a crappy 10$ camera for 350$

[@tedcrosby9361]

A new Pentax k mount SLR is a no- brainer with all the k mount lenses out there

[@metalfingersfilm]

that would be awesome!!

[@ploufbadaboum2221]

the dream would be a mamiya 7 iii 😅

[@musa7606]

$10,000 :)

[@heresmyurl]

What would a mamiya 7iii have that the mamiya 7ii doesnt have? At this point, the only thing a new mamiya 7 would come with is an exorbitant price tag that everyone would cry about.

[@musa7606]

@@heresmyurl We'd get new ones so we aren't running out of parts ha ha ha... But yeah, it would be expensive, probably in the area of $5 or more. The Mamiya 7 in 1997 was about $6k in today's dollars. Puts Leica into perspective.

[@ploufbadaboum2221]

@@heresmyurl for me the fact that it will be brand new is a good one. I'd rather pay 5000 for a new one than 3000 for a old one with no spare pieces, no waranty... :) (the reality is that i have no money to buy even a broken one ;-) )

[@JHurrenPhotography]

Mamiya 7ii is like $3k, a brand new one for $5k would be totally worth it. I'm fully committed to this system.

[@jad_mariam]

Imagine a Contax G3 that didn't break easily and had modern autofocus 🤠

[@3c3c3c]

Also Contax T4

[@jad_mariam]

@@3c3c3c fr contax just need to make cameras with new tech but keep their older designs

[@metalfingersfilm]

Yesss please

[@SweetLouPhotography]

the Big Lebowski is god tier, so happy to see Jeff Bridges in this video lol

[@metalfingersfilm]

the goat

[@robbiemer8178]

I'm hoping ALL of these do well. That said, the Widelux is the one I'm most interested in. Hoping I will be able to afford it when it releases. The Alfie camera looks like great fun. Lastly, if someone wanted to effectively re-issue a disposable but make it reloadable and with a sturdier shell, why would they not be trying to base it on the Konica Wai Wai? I have two of those and will keep reloading them until they break. It's fiddly to reload a disposable but definitely worth it, for me, to keep using the Wai Wai. I like that one because it has a 17mm lens on full frame.

[@metalfingersfilm]

the widelux looks so awesome!!

[@Randuski]

Holy crap I’m glad I clicked on this video. I’ve been wanting to grab a rollei 35 for a while, and I had no idea they were making a new one. Buying that immediately when it drops haha

[@Haushaltsgeraet]

Why? It's an AF, non-retractable fixed lens piece costing around 8-16x more than an original one. The original 35 has a great, time-proven lens. They're fixable by many techs still. They're fully mechanical and have been reliable for half a century. I don't understand why anyone would shell out $800 for an unproven point-and-shoot. They're developed and manufactured by MiNT, who have acquired naming rights only, and feature a mixed track record on their previous products. Rollei, the company, had absolutely nothing to do with the development, and has nothing to do with manufacturing.

[@metalfingersfilm]

@@Haushaltsgeraet I think supporting the future of film photography would be enough merit in and of itself.

[@metalfingersfilm]

Awesome! I'm so stoked for it!

[@Franco_Deleo]

Love that you dropped podcast mention! Would be great to hear more of your podcast recommendations in another video or short.

[@metalfingersfilm]

honestly, I don't listen to many film photographer podcasts, mostly sports, automotive, and camping stuff, haha. Do you have recommendations?

[@Franco_Deleo]

⁠​​⁠I do! The Candid Frame is really good,he interviewed Martin Parr and also Gus Powell. Street Photography Magazine, Photo Work, B&H has one, and The PhotoWalk. Also highly recommend listing to Paul Graham talk about photography in general, super inspiring.

[@Wanking_wanker]

i always thought it was weird that Pentax started with a half frame before the point and shoot

[@InternetWesley]

Film Never Die are scammers selling $20 aliexpress point and shoots with an aluminum front shell

[@metalfingersfilm]

😬

[@oblivion_007]

Agree.. Film photography is a big scam now..

[@erikverhoef5718]

Also, what is that name? A plea to film? Then it should have a : after "film". If it is a statement, then it should say "dies". This look like translation in pidgin English. They should've called it "Flim Kemra".

[@trabouliste1037]

I would prefer a Rollei rangefinder or a remake of the Canonet QL17 GIII. A new Rollei TLR would be nice too!

[@metalfingersfilm]

A new canonet would be awesome!

[@filmismorefun]

I would be sooo stoked if a new GR dropped. Didn't know about the Widelux. Pretty cool.

[@metalfingersfilm]

a new GR would be awesome

[@mp3remix171]

The Rollei is said to release in September, it was announced on the JCH stream like a month ago!

[@mp3remix171]

Nvm, just got to that part of the video 😂

[@areallyrealisticguyd4333]

they did say it was going to be first come first serve so I'm definitely staying up if I have to (since they're in HK) but hopefully they don't choose a weird hour to open pre-orders

[@---us7qf]

The pre-order for the Rollei 35AF will open the 10th Sept. The camera won't be available until about the end of Oct this year.

[@metalfingersfilm]

lets gooo!!

[@Babenberger]

The market is full of very good, used cameras in different price ranges. We need good, inexpensive films and equipment to put the photo on paper.

[@metalfingersfilm]

support the ones doing it right, though!

[@WittyDroog]

Looking forward to all these cameras, even the Film Never Die metal disposable. I already own an Alfie Tych and it's one of my favorite half-frame cameras I own. It's VERY compact and basically travels with me everywhere, and takes the best half-frame shots outside of a Pen F

[@cwantuch]

Compared to the Pentax17, do you think the Alfie makes any sense to own? They are the same price and the Pentax seems far better. I own the Pentax17 and really do enjoy it. I would consider and Alfie but just does not seem worth the price.

[@WittyDroog]

@@cwantuch I think that's a great question! I think ultimately whichever you go for you're going to be happy they're both great cameras. Consider that the Tych was a crowdfunded camera designed and built by one guy while the Pentax 17 is a more established company returning to their roots. Each camera is a mix of retro shooting with modern ease of use advancements and both give excellent shots for the half-frame world. The differences come from what you want to do with the camera. I like the Pentax 17 as what a half-frame camera was traditionally, that is an easy camera to carry with you wherever to capture the moment and do so with not much fuss, a great traveling camera. The Tych meanwhile is a far more experimental camera with its rotating turret of nostalgic lenses and manual shutter control. Personally I like the main lens of the premium Tych which is a 50mm equivalent 4 element lens (compared to the 37mm equivalent 3 element lens of the Pentax) but the fact you can take meniscus shots (think disposable camera), zone plate (dreamy just wild process of taking a photo) and pinhole (surprisingly sharp vintage look) all on the SAME ROLL is wild. It's also half the size of the Pentax so very pocketable I'd recommend the Pentax 17 to those who want a good street photography camera or point and shoot with its zone focus and wider lens, it's a more well rounded shooter if you want straightforward photos. If you want to be more experimental/creative then the Tych is certainly worth a try. But as I said before either you go with you'll be very happy they're both great cameras

[@metalfingersfilm]

How many rolls have you shot with it?

[@WittyDroog]

@@metalfingersfilm five and a half, which goes a long way in half frame form. I got mine from the original kickstarter so I've had it for a while now.

[@courtneyshootsfilm]

What was the other little toy camera called? Afi??

[@kentdms]

I would love to see on-par analog cameras from the 1970's.

[@saintpreferred9223]

Nikon FE, FM2...

[@MaxwellAerialPhotography]

Could someone please just make a new SLR thats compatible with modern lenses, at sub Leica prices? Is that too much to ask?

[@gamebuster800]

The rollei 35 AF is open for pre-orders 10 sept and will be in our hands in okt/nov (according to them)

[@metalfingersfilm]

lets go!!

[@StepsAndStoness]

Great break down as always dude!

[@metalfingersfilm]

thanks dude!

[@Wilkins325]

We need SLRs!

[@a.nevillechamberlain7612]

My Nikon ti35 is my favorite film camera, digital is too easy to use and review shots, but the Nikon sharp tack lens makes it worth holding on to. Also own the original film based Ricoh G1 28mm. A local camera shop had 40 in their showcase. It was impressive.

[@faintanomaly]

It's amazing that somehow none of these scratch the itch, there's got to be something wrong with me I guess...

[@JHurrenPhotography]

The widelux looks incredible I can't wait to buy one!

[@andrewrothman7805]

@@JHurrenPhotography prepare for a 4-figure price tag for a very niche camera.

[@JHurrenPhotography]

@andrewrothman7805 I wouldn't want it to be cheap. I'm a camera collector. Some of my systems are into 5 figures, lenses considered. My only wish is they were going medium format.

[@metalfingersfilm]

Great to hear! Hopefully sooner rather than later!

[@aaronhecht]

How did you do those prints at 03:10? They look so clean!!

[@metalfingersfilm]

any lab will happily print those 8x10s!

[@andykphoto]

Most likely to join my collection: that rollei, though I’d love a new GR1 like camera…

[@metalfingersfilm]

Yesss, fingers crossed, haha

[@jorgemtrevino]

The Contax T4 and Leica Minilux 35 might easily be reintroduced.

[@cwantuch]

Definitely want the Rollei 35. I own a few of the older models and this is a humongous upgrade.

[@metalfingersfilm]

great to hear!!

[@randallstewart1224]

Upgrade? Hardly. The "new" Rollei 35AF is connected to the old Rollei 35 only in that whoever holds the tradename rights to the old Rollei brand got paid to use the name and a superficial likeness in appearance. The internal mechanisms are completely different. Until recently, there was no useful information about the lens. A recent YT display of photos taken with the Mint camera shows serious lens defects, and that was not a critical or in depth analysis. So far, its ability to record an image places it more like an Olympus Mju than a Rollei 35.

[@cwantuch]

@@randallstewart1224 Upgrade in terms of functionality, Of course its totally new. The concept is old.

[@gottanikoncamera]

Ribsy just did a brief first impressions video on the Rollei AF! They sent him one.

[@metalfingersfilm]

I saw that! Lucky man! lol

[@Marciniaco]

I’m waiting for Rollie but I was hoping it to be sooner and a new widelux as well but they are still in the woods

[@metalfingersfilm]

Yeah, still a bit out in terms in time!

[@africanpenguin3282]

I griped about the pentax 17 proce initially, but i thought more about what we are getting and thet I am trying to compare kt to the used market of mostly 30+ year old cameras. That while are plentiful and well made, are aging far beyond their intended use cycle.

[@andrewrothman7805]

Pre-orders for the Rollei/Mint 35AF start September 10, 2024. Price is $799.

[@metalfingersfilm]

Lets go!

[@oblivion_007]

Vivitar can change the film photography scene by relaunching some of their cosina built cameras again with reasonable prices

[@j0hnnykn0xv1lle]

I'll be adding the Rollei to my Nikon F5 collection.

[@metalfingersfilm]

You have multiple F5s?

[@photog12345]

I am waiting for the Widelux. Want to use it for auto racing photography

[@metalfingersfilm]

ooooo that would be awesome! What type of racing?

[@photog12345]

Drag racing and 3/8th mile dirt track.

[@35matinee]

We don't need smaller cameras. Ones that use 120 film can compete with digital for quality.

[@fistfulloflenses]

I would love a new film SLR , don't know if it's likely, but possible Pentax could do it.

[@metalfingersfilm]

fingers crossed!

[@karl1137]

A Nikon f3a update?

[@fistfulloflenses]

@@karl1137 that would be amazing

[@gabgallant]

Why is the thumbnail reggie’s fujfilm klasse w? 😐

[@jameshoward9700]

Some exciting stuff incoming... I agree, people need to be more realistic with their expectations of price. To manufacture and support (and you know, still make a fair profit) a high quality mechanical camera from scratch is expensive. I'm amazed Pentax got the 17 in at this price - I suspect the margin is low. The 17 is a market pioneer aiming to grow and educate a new user base who will then hopefully (for Pentax) buy into an expanding range that might include the FF, MF and lenses the enthusiast community wants.

[@metalfingersfilm]

Yep, big time agree!

[@utai4571]

hey i'm not following that much the film community so i don't know if it's already a hot topic but, while i love seeing so many new stuff camera wise, does any big or small company are trying to resurect actual film manufacturing ? because it's nice to have some new cameras but kodak still has the biggest monopoly, and prices are still going up and up. at some point it would be nice to see a company producing actual new film and not some kodak motion film rebranded.

[@czelendzerii3985]

there are a few companies that make film besides kodak wdym

[@metalfingersfilm]

ORWO, Harman, FUJIFILM, Ferrania, etc

[@iseolake]

The price of film is very sensitive to production volume. Once you set up the line and get it running, the more film you produce in one run, the lower the cost per roll. Even though I'm not in the market for a 1/2 frame camera, or any new camera really, I am hoping they sell a lot of them so that film production will go up and drive prices down. Right now color is made by Kodak, Fujifilm and (recently) Harmon. Kodak (USA), Harmon (UK), Foma (Czech) and Ferrania (Italy) make B&W. Fuji B&W is now made by Harmon (probably, as Acros II is marked Made in England).

[@mackysobrevega1780]

On Paper the Rollei is the perfect point and shoot camera for me. ✅ Compact Pocketable ✅ Premium Material ✅ Autofocus ✅ f2.8 lens ✅ Rechargable Type C port ✅ Flash (non pop up) ✅ Brand with good History ✅ Full Frame

[@vinchester8688]

Bro, I am actually so tired of half frame.

[@DGworksIvan]

and shit lens.

[@metalfingersfilm]

yessirski!

[@chrisloomis1489]

120 mm WIDE LUX ♥ , and Rollei 35..

[@metalfingersfilm]

please!!

[@thevoiceman6192]

You did not mention a price for The film never die camera and the one after it with the rotating round dial. Hard pass on the Rollei for me because of price point and I do not like rangefinders. I like the view finder centered above the lens for centered photos.

[@GrainOnTheGo]

@@thevoiceman6192 I don’t think the Widelux has a price yet but the FND camera is being marketed at I believe 250$ which I ludicrous considering IT IS a rehoused reusable camera. 31mm f11 125s should never EVER be even close to 250$.

[@thevoiceman6192]

@@GrainOnTheGo I agree with the the price tag being off putting. And Crazy.

[@GrainOnTheGo]

@@thevoiceman6192 if it was just 40-50$ I don’t think it would be so insulting. Hell I wouldn’t criticize it.

[@thevoiceman6192]

@@GrainOnTheGo Agree with you on that. The reason I go to thrift stores. Found most of my cameras there as well as at camera shows.

[@metalfingersfilm]

Oops, totally missed that. Yeah I think if FND released for $40-50 it would make sense.

[@Zetaphotography]

Ribsy already posted a video review of the Rollei

[@Luudite]

Eh, first impressions video tbf

[@metalfingersfilm]

Yessss, lucky man, haha

[@anta40]

Pentax17... Rollei35AF... all of them are fixed lens cameras. An interchangebale-lens camera will be interesting, considering there are lots (really) of M42, Nikon etc lenses available. Reusing existing lenses, I think, are much more practical than designing new ones. Perhaps need to pay some money due to intellectual property?

[@remcogreve7982]

Lomo is still making new cameras. You KZbin guys always seem to forget them.

[@SomeUnremarkableGuy]

I hope, one day, someone will come up with alternative to the Xpan or TX1

[@andrewrothman7805]

@SomeUnremarkableGuy someone already did. I use t h e Bronica ETRS with thex135W back. It's a panoramic back using 35mm film. Unlike the Widelux, no rotating lens, so the image is projected onto flat film. It is not quite as wide as the X-pan, but close.

[@metalfingersfilm]

that would be slick!

[@DirtyPlumbus]

Should have made the Widelux a 120. 🤷‍♂️

[@XavierLignieres]

Pentax should just re release the K1000 and they would make a ton of $$$

[@김선우-j2p6v]

kodak s88 has the same specs with the nana camera😂

[@dlyon9673]

Rollei AF, af!

[@metalfingersfilm]

!!!!!

[@amdesidik305]

The real issue success or failure of film Camera is about film. Poducing films alternatives to exisiting films Or new technoogy updating of film

[@iseolake]

I suspect that traditional film manufacturing often used chemicals that are difficult to source today. They may be toxic to people and the environment. Manufacturers are probably already struggling with developing new processes and alternative chemicals. If the demand for film goes up that should enable investment in new processes.

[@jeremycartier7760]

The Nana is just a scam, I would just buy something like a Konica efp2 like the one I bought for 1€ at a garage sale, it has a 1/125s shutter speed, and 3 aperture settings (f11 / F8 and 5.6 on flash)

[@metalfingersfilm]

😬😬😬

[@Flying4Film]

The 35af price has been known for some time now. Even before the Pentax 17 came out. That’s one of the reasons the Pentax 17 seemed so expensive for what it is.

[@metalfingersfilm]

Huh, I can't recall seeing it. Do you think it's a fair price?

[@forgottenamericana]

No more half frame silliness. Full frame 35mm large aperture point and shoot GR camera please.

[@metalfingersfilm]

fingers crossed!

[@ernestthomas9406]

the Widelux is the shit, or the cats meow ✌

[@metalfingersfilm]

I thought this said the widelux is shit 😬

[@swampscott2670]

The good: glad that film is back and stable. The bad: can people stop making these film photographs that look as if film was low resolution and with incorrect colors? This fake “vintage” nonsense is just that. I have family pictures from the late 19th century that are as sharp as what comes out of today’s digital cameras/ink jet printers. Oh, and what’s with people not knowing the pronunciation of famous brands? It’s not “Rolly”. And it’s also not “Voidlander” and such.

[@metalfingersfilm]

Because I'm a moron, Scott. lol

[@jpm5205]

Leica Q-A

[@jw48335]

Ribsy got a copy of the 35AF today. Perhaps one will show up in your mailbox soon :D

[@metalfingersfilm]

Yesss lucky man, haha

[@mistermars1479]

The new Widelux

[@mattbray_studio]

considering that plastic alfie camera is £500 and the garbage FND Nana was nearly £300, yeah the Ricoh and the Widelux are gonna be big bucks

[@metalfingersfilm]

Haha, yeahhh we shall see.

[@TheKardred]

When they make a metal body I will pay 500+ for a camera

[@metalfingersfilm]

*gets wallet ready for rollei35af*

[@LoFiAxolotl]

My problem with the Pentax 17 is... what's the point? The exact same camera we could've made 40 years ago and we did... there's plenty of film cameras out there... if they want me to buy a new film camera in 2024/25 it needs to do something that my cameras that i already have or could buy for significantly less can't do... and the only thing i see them doing that actually fits in there is AF which i'm really not interested in

[@Biosynchro]

I mostly agree. What we need is better film emulsions. Like, if Kodak added just one more layer to any of their b&w emulsions, the latitude would be more than any digital camera, photo or vine. Two extra layers, and latitude goes off the charts. So we need new film, not new cameras. Not yet, anyway.

[@LoFiAxolotl]

@@Biosynchro completely utterly uninteresting... dynamic range is a buzzword that is completely irrelevant to 99.999999% of photographers

[@Biosynchro]

We need better film with even more latitude. That can't be hard to do with b&w. New cameras? Not so much. Not yet, anyway.

[@slippinjimmothy]

Fuji Xpro4 will be a film camera

[@metalfingersfilm]

ooooo inside scoop or what?

[@dubajskygadzo]

Film is too expensive

[@GerjanvanOosten]

Rollei is NOT pronounced as Roly! I know it is hard for English speaking people, but Rollei is a German brand! Try row·lai!

[@roscat_]

Row like row row row your boat?

[@manugeee]

Yes, that’s far closer. 😊

[@randallstewart1224]

Who cares? It's not a real Rollei. I don't think that Rollei is even a German company anymore. It's just a trademark, a brand name, and last time I heard, it was bought by the Belgian holding company which primarily owns Schneider.

[@metalfingersfilm]

yeah I know I know. Just be glad you're not hearing me say 'bag' every video, lol

[@oblivion_007]

This sh* toy cameras are a big NO. What people really want is the relaunch of nikon fm10, vivitar 3800n, pentax k1000 etc..

[@Bajinowhere]

I bought a few sh*t toy cameras, and i agree. I need a real camera.

[@betod63]

pentax 17 is grabage half frame, wtf

[@davidninan88]

As someone who backed the kickstarter, it would be very disappointing if the FND camera was just an Alibaba rehash. Where did this info originate?

[@GrainOnTheGo]

The literal design is a 1:1 copy of an ali cam. The only difference is a rehouse. The creator was called out by multiple big creators for this, and they continued to refuse to answer if it was. Then the creator ended the kickstarter by self funding (which is illegal by KS TOS). FND disables comments, hides comments and never answers any questions regarding… “development”. With the Pentax 17, Rollei 35AF, Widelux and other stuff being designed I’ll be honest I’m not sure why you’d back the FND stuff. No insult meant by that but the cost of the camera relative to it being a sub 10$ cam is kind of insulting to film enthusiasts. It’s predatory.

[@crowla9139]

oof

[@metalfingersfilm]

😬

[@fukolombobby]

The rollei Is a fully manual camera not a point and shoot

[@fukolombobby]

Although the sample images look like one lul oh no

[@metalfingersfilm]

it has autofocus so can be shot like a point and shoot.

[@mohammadakram4749]

I would like rebirth of Nikon EM Or Nikon fg small easy sharp light weight handy and build quality very strong

[@metalfingersfilm]

Ohh a new Nikon EM would be slick!

[@Biosynchro]

Just not the FM10 please!