NEW FILTER FROM EVOLUTION AQUA!!!! TEMPEST!!

[@Veterankoi]

Hi Tim, I can't get my head around how they are able to 'polish' water clarity. It's just K1 at the end of the day. I use K1 and it does block algae etc to a very good degree, but it is not perfect. The system that I have put together has a vortex that has been modified to trap large particles in its first stage, then finer particles in the second stage (basic filtration using japanese matting and varying degrees of foam filters. I also have 2 containers of K1 for mechanical filtration after the vortex and then a container of K1 for the biological filtration. 250 litres of K1 in total. The water clarity in the middle of last years hot weather was superb and not a drum filter in sight. It takes 5 minutes to thoroughly clean the vortex, including japanese matting and foam via a pressure washer that I have next to it. You have removed a shower system which is a biological filter in order to put it bluntly, a relatively low grade water clarity filter in. Why? 7 litres of K1 won't improve water clarity that much. I use around 150 litres of K1 for mechanical filtration and it is good, but it is no where near perfect hence why I modified the Vortex. I must be missing something Tim. You have vast experience. At the end of the day I keep getting informed that the best water polisher is a RDF combined with a reverse osmosis system (expensive I know). However, I can't see how the system you have shown can be anything but maintenance high (it will get blocked pretty quickly). Let me know why I have got things wrong? Regards: Alex

[@TimWaddington]

People have been using these with excellent results for over 12 months now. They have been running at EA longer. While they are designed for smaller systems and not as a filter as such. They have a lot of power. Sometimes more K1 is not good for a system. Instead of looking for faults in the first hour, let’s see how it performs shall we?

[@Veterankoi]

@@TimWaddington Fair point, and taken. Having said that, why remove the shower?

[@TimWaddington]

@@Veterankoi well the pond has been a test from day one, the single bead as the only filtration and then I tried a shower which I’ve never been a fan of, to test the sinking media. I couldn’t see any difference with the shower so time to test these.

[@gap9992]

I thought the same Alex. They just look like a tube with a bit if K1. Same principle as an eaziypod but being a pressure filter smaller and can be put anywhere so I see these being used on small garden ponds instead of one of the usual pressure filters. On the face of it cost and simplicity seem to be their main strengths so will be interesting to see how well they perform during the trial.

[@g1lby1]

Have to wait and see but they are the best filter company so I trust them!

[@ckkone]

always a good day when a new filter is introduced.

[@jordandixon125]

Can't wait to see the results. Couple of these hooked to a water blade with a backing would look great.

[@RS20O0]

Will be interesting to see the results. If it's priced under £100 I can see it's value as support for a small QT system running a basic sponge filter, but I really don't see the point of it for larger systems using drums that already polish the water, or even systems with a Nexus or Bead since EA claim if you have fines then you've not set up the filter properly.

[@TimWaddington]

Price point is £249.

[@RS20O0]

@@TimWaddington That seems a hell of a lot of money for a plastic bottle with 7 litres of plastic media, plus another £50 on a ball valve, extra pipe, bottle of solvent weld etc, thus a £300 outlay. Guess we need to wait for the long term results and see how long it goes between cleans.

[@PaulsKoipond]

Looking forward to see the results of these after Christmas

[@TimWaddington]

Me too!

[@Fitzfishponds]

Looking good Tim and Paul we can’t wait to set our test ones up when they arrive next week!

[@baitking1]

Love the idea can’t wait to see the results after Christmas all the very best to u an yours 👍

[@dannyhale7449]

Nice vid, looking forward to seeing the results. Love the pink chairs too :) suits you sir!

[@TimWaddington]

We never turn down a freebie hahaha 🤣

[@charlottefalconer8602]

I think they are awesome, I’m installing one on my pond and another on my 1,200l aquarium. Brilliant bit of kit.

[@doubleryukin5144]

Those are pond sized Ziss aquarium filters..... very nice

[@deejaysmi1469]

I've got an open mind about these and will be interested to see the results. How will you measure success? Are you measuring water quality before and after? What parameters will you check?

[@TimWaddington]

The parameters are already good, however I will check to see if the shower did make any difference when it comes to water so yes we will test but the bead is that good I don’t think it will matter. While I cannot see many bits or fines in the pond I am sure there are some. I will do some underwater shots. They are mainly to polish, I should be able to gauge how much dirt is in the unit.

[@deejaysmi1469]

@@TimWaddington thanks

[@paulsimpson7348]

Really like these and looking forward to seeing the results. Not so fussed about the gate valves though in my experience I’ve had multiple failures.

[@TimWaddington]

Yes I agree regards slide valves. However they are for closing and opening and are not under any kind of pressure so should be fine.

[@AMGINE1000]

Evening Tim, first filter ive seen that has me scratching my head, I know you no your stuff so im going wait for an update from you. I wouldnt of removed the mature shower but your close with EA so testing is testing I suppose. thanks for sharing have Great xmas and Newyear if no more posts before then :)

[@TimWaddington]

The shower was a test and I don’t plan on using one again to be honest. I never saw any improvements or differences. I am planning on installing these on each of my QT systems.

[@AMGINE1000]

@@TimWaddington Understand Tim, thanks for reply :) takecare

[@markpaine882]

Hi Tim, I currently use an Easypod (as a mechanic) filter that flows to a converted multi chamber containing a bay of tap matting and then through 150L of k media (mixed K1 and K3). Would a tempest work better pre easy pod or post pod/before multi chamber or finally after multi chamber and straight to pond the steep is pump fed gravity return. Looks a simple and easy piece of kit to maintain and credit to EA for taking the time to put it to production.

[@TimWaddington]

How many gallons is the pond?

[@markpaine882]

@@TimWaddington 3000 in the pond 600 in the filter.

[@TimWaddington]

Yes it would be best at the end. Maybe split the pump into 2 returns and add the Tempest to one.

[@markpaine882]

@@TimWaddington Cool, thanks Tim. Just need to inform the wife what she's getting for her birthday :)

[@farmergoggin2102]

When fully matured I can see it being a good on a small ponds around 2000 gallons for mechanical or a final polisher. From a bio side of things will it be as good as a shower? How much food can the 7 litres of k1 process? Also can you add more k1 one in ?

[@TimWaddington]

I fully agree Chris. If I see a change on my new pond then I will say they are better than a shower, only reason being I saw no difference with the shower. That could be just how good the bead is performing though. We will see.

[@TimWaddington]

You cannot add more media, also this is really an add on so amounts of food would be down to the main filtration

[@IcenI_Koi]

Nice one Tim !

[@paulmarjoram2258]

Tim, I’m just asking but the shower was doing a bit gassing off for you, wont you lose a bit of that advantage by dropping the outlets straight down into the pond..

[@TimWaddington]

You could be right. I don’t think it matters too much on my system though

[@chrismcerlain1664]

I have a wheelie bin in my shed with 50 k1 liters in doing the same job. glad I`m doing something right :-)

[@TimWaddington]

How did you pressurise your wheelie bin?

[@LauMagroTheFrenchKOInection]

Interesting! Thanks for sharing Tim. Can't wait to see the update on this. This new filter might be really good to use after an Easypod. I can also see the benefit to have this as a substitute for pressure filter that doesn't hold the bad bacteria in. Tim, do they come already with the media in or can they be filled in with already mature media? Thank you again for sharing this.

[@TimWaddington]

They come with the media in. I just cleaned one actually and it’s very cool how it works. I was just impatient! After a pod is ideal!

[@TimWaddington]

When people understand how K1 works and the bio film when mature they will be amazed. However many in the pond hobby have no patience

[@LauMagroTheFrenchKOInection]

@@TimWaddington I know.. patience is required for all animals keeping or equipment/water keeping I am afraid!

[@LauMagroTheFrenchKOInection]

@Quality Nishikigoi perfect. Thanks Tim. I really think they can only be beneficial.now just one more question if I may, I am pump fed, one side a sieve + multibay, the other side the EazyPod. Pond is 2ft under, 2 ft above. Pump fed means that the pod is above water level, which is high for me, so do you think I could now put the pod ground level, put the Tempest after the pod, Tempest straight back in the pond?

[@TimWaddington]

You can’t drop the pod too much pump fed as it will overflow? I would add the tempest before the pod and keep as it is

[@shaungoldsborougb4385]

Look great a follow all your videos amasing work

[@spfrisby]

How did you face the white caps in separate directions?

[@koistory5744]

Looks like the same principle as a static bed or a bead filter

[@TimWaddington]

Similar yes. Not the same flow as a bead

[@Veterankoi]

I agree. I run 2 static beds and 1 biological filter. 250 litres of K1 divided between the 3. It will be interesting to see the honest trial and results.

[@121koinickosborne4]

Smaller version of the easy pod in reality look forward to seeing proven results in water clarity 👍

[@dougiemontana4815]

I’m going to run a shower via an easy pod and a tempest in my 1100 gallon.

[@2e0wsj]

Looking forward to when you get them in

[@vincentdaly6715]

Think it’s missing an air line and vent at top for cleaning purposes. Drop level of water and activate air to agitate media. With vent open. Then turn air off, close vent. Drain. Then rinse repeat.

[@TimWaddington]

Works great as it is to be honest.

[@andrewrowbottom7080]

Could this be used as a Pre filter ??

[@danielmerrell8926]

Not mad on it having sliding gate valves in my experience thru always end up leaking hope they change them for double union pressure pipe ball valves

[@TimWaddington]

I agree Daniel, never liked them but they are only for when you clean, I was so close to putting ball valves on!

[@christophersinclair6434]

Just the thing for my skimmer line.

[@colinharwood5183]

Tim, does the Tempest have to be mounted vertically or can you mount horizontally ? Great Vids Pal

[@TimWaddington]

Vertical only Colin.

[@azzymunster]

Hi Tim just got one of these mine don't seem to have come with any wall hanging brackets so gonna make shelve like yours does EA do the brackets can't find them anywhere thanks

[@TimWaddington]

Should be 2 x 1.5” clips in the box

[@deadflesh8949]

What are you thoughts on a pump fed dual Tempest setup Just for a 2,000 gallon pond?

[@3963dw]

Hi I love some of the underwater shots you do, what camera do you use? Can you recommend one?

[@TimWaddington]

Just my iPhone mate. Just got the new 12 pro Max.

[@3963dw]

@@TimWaddington really!!! all the shots under water in the ponds??

[@TimWaddington]

Yes mate, it’s the only camera I use.

[@g1lby1]

I want one! 1 micron is very impressive 👍

[@claytongraves4610]

Looks a nice bit of kit what sort of money r they retailing at tim?

[@TimWaddington]

£249 mate

[@claytongraves4610]

@@TimWaddington so for a 16000 pump 2 is required spend spend spend in this koi game lol

[@chrisshadwick5833]

Hi Tim would this work in between easypod and shower? Great video mate all the best for Christmas.

[@TimWaddington]

It would yes! Have a good one mate

[@bluzze6575]

Is this like a pressure filter so can pull water through the outlet?

[@TimWaddington]

They pull around 6000L per hour

[@atsuminaoki9910]

I have to admit that I can't say for sure until I get my hands on one and run it myself, but the new filter will be placed at the edge of the pond so that there is no difference in the height of the water. I don't know how it is that BAKKI SHOWER has become so popular that not only hobbyists but even suppliers' stock ponds are using it. Is it something that should be adopted by everyone? After all, it doesn't matter what method you use as long as you can increase the dissolved oxygen, right? I understand that if there is a difference in height, as in a waterfall, the water will be agitated and oxygen will be mixed in, but I have always thought that there must be a more efficient way of doing this, rather than spending money on pumps and electricity just to add a difference in height at the end. It is true that there are people who have installed BAKKI SHOWER in Japan, but when I see them, I always have the impression that they are people who don't care about the cost of electricity or money, but I wonder if I am just a cheapskate who cares about such things from the start?

[@tonybeards2978]

Can't wait..🤗

[@kevosbourne]

Why did some of the micro K1 exit the filter at startup, is there not a mesh at the top or something to stop it escaping?

[@TimWaddington]

There’s always a few tiny bits go through, when it’s made and bagged there is always a few slip in. Same with Nexus etc

[@mirola73]

It's basically just an amended version of (part of) the nexus they started with.

[@TimWaddington]

They are using K1 media to trap muck yes.

[@anthonystevens6733]

What kind of price will they be any idea yet thanks Tim 👍

[@TimWaddington]

£249 mate

[@glosfishgb6267]

each

[@davidpupu]

why not the output link back to the bakki shower ?

[@TimWaddington]

I didn’t want the shower anymore mate

[@happycrocodile]

any one tried adding one of these to a 500gal aquarium ?

[@jimjones1586]

Is this the same principle as a bubble bead filter?

[@TimWaddington]

I suppose it’s similar theory.

[@jimjones1586]

@@TimWaddington what is the cleaning procedure.?

[@TimWaddington]

It’s on some of the other videos but just open the valve at the bottom. Takes a minute

[@mrtings]

I’m only 5 minutes in and dang this is cool stuff!

[@TimWaddington]

I think so. Should be doing the first backwash video between Xmas and new year

[@Bikecampcook]

I take it they have a bypass for when they get blocked.

[@TimWaddington]

Why would they block? With what?

[@stevealdridge8918]

So if they are being used with a Nexus at 10000 flow rate won’t work then? Thanks

[@TimWaddington]

No Steve, that’s correct. However you can run them simply after the Nexus but on a bypass. So some going back to pond and some going via the Tempest.

[@stevealdridge8918]

Will it work with a pressurised system too? Thanks

[@TimWaddington]

@@stevealdridge8918 yes any system where it can be pumped into.

[@stevealdridge8918]

@@TimWaddington sounds good that’s look forward to the results mate thanks for the channel it’s great.

[@iainbusbridge9585]

Why didn't you just fit them to the back of the shower?

[@TimWaddington]

I could have. However I wasn’t convinced about the shower to be honest, and I also think these will be used as an add on not a replacement. I have the way to test so why not on there own which I’m sure that’s how most will be used.

[@benjaminpritchard9206]

Hello everyone. You need to look at the graphs on the EA website. It is clear, that whilst they do say that these filters CAN filter down to 1 micron when you look at the data in their graph it shows that they are only catching approx just under 20% of 1 micron particles. Their data suggests that the 100% capture rate drops off below 20 microns. Please take the time to read the actual data and claims. I have put a link to what they are actually stating below. Remember that when EA say 'particles down to one micron can be filtered' it means that they are not claiming that all 1 micron particles will be removed just some of them are so as always the devil is in the detail. I agree, we should not be too hasty to just jump in and moan and say that its not possible we should wait to see the results. If this was a scientific investigation there would have to be control variables including but not limited to; a fixed fish stock, feed rate, water volume, fixed time and constant water temperature. This is just not possible in a dealers stock pond as they are there to sell equipment and fish and not leave the pond unchanged for weeks on end. Whilst we all know that there is no such thing as over filtering a pond; the total biomass of all of the matured filters combined is limited to the amount of organics / waste (food) available for the bacteria to consume. Once the bacteria have used all the food they will stop growing as a population and stay at a static level. This bio load (living bacterial population) changes with fish numbers in the pond and with feeding rates etc. so any findings will be speculative at best. By this I mean that the results would not be repeatable or reproducible and so will hold little validity. Sparshot college or other independent institution would be needed with enough identical ponds to get repeatable data from their experiments for the results to be valid. The other thing we need to know is was the data collected in their graphs collected by an independent company or by someone paid to do it, I will admit i only scan read their article so it might be there already. All data should be independent if it is to be credible really or there could be a conflict of interests. There are already two filters on the pond so it is already highly likely that there is already spare filtering capacity so these extra filters (and the shower before it) will not really be doing anything to filter the water other than at best sharing the job with the existing filter systems/ I personally think that this product is primarily a polisher for the water in most ponds and a bit extra filtration in a small one. I think they would be a great addition to a small pond with a pressurised filter being used as the main filtration especially if they were in a dark shed. I do think they are a bit pricey for what they are as i really like EA stuff otherwise and it is usually well priced in comparison to the competition. I am impressed with the design of the K1 bead filter. My ramblings here are just some thoughts and not thoroughly well thought through at all so please interpret as you see fit. My only question to EA would be why have clear pipe as we know that light negatively effects bacterial growth. This is why I am mainly assuming that this is a polisher with the added bonus of a little extra filtration. Also with clear plastic once algae grows it might not look so nice? From my point of view I love your videos so please keep going and ignore the moaners. I love the fact that they show what you are up to as a business with things like you are heat ramping the new koi especially after what happened to Gatwick koi a while ago. I know that some dealers don't bother but your openness and transparency is refreshing. That makes me think you are a dealer i would use. Keep up the great work. The link is below, read it for yourselves. evolutionaqua.com/tempest-filter

[@benjaminpritchard9206]

I still might by one for my aquarium though and see what it does on that?

[@TimWaddington]

The results have been independently tested. I think I mention where in the first video. Thanks for the reply, lots of good stuff. We do heat ramp the new Koi... do I personally think we should.... that’s a different matter! 😉

[@scottcornish5411]

Would it be worth installing this in addition to a bead filter for better polishing?

[@TimWaddington]

Nope not on your pond mate. The bead will do that when fully mature.

[@davidpupu]

in other words a polishing filter

[@TimWaddington]

Yes, but also a filter for smaller ponds. 👍🏻

[@kevindann166]

I’ve was a koi dealer for over 25 years and can’t believe how gullible ea think people are just put a pod on qn must be getting a good kick back off this sad state off afairs

[@TimWaddington]

Don’t talk nonsense. If you are that ignorant to think things will never move on? If you was a dealer for 25yrs you must remember when filtration took up half a pond, you really think things don’t advance? Have you seen how cars can run off electric these days? People now have indoor toilets? Did the Tempest you tried not work?

[@scottcornish5411]

@@TimWaddington 😂.........buuuuuurn🔥

[@crimewavedelta7879]

Don’t be bitter Scott, you sound bitter 😂

[@scottcornish5411]

@@crimewavedelta7879 no bitterness about me lol....I have an indoor toilet😂

[@crimewavedelta7879]

@@scottcornish5411 apologies Scott my comment was for negative Kev above...

[@thepeoplespond]

Great video as always Tim Check out my pond build video 👍👍👍

[@sephuk]

1 micron :) :). leave it out mate

[@TimWaddington]

Okay 👍

[@sephuk]

@@TimWaddington come on you cant belive that k1 micro is filtering down to 1 micron

[@TimWaddington]

I didn’t believe it when they said a K1 Micro bead would take down to 1 micron, but eventually they proved they did. So this time I’ll go with it.

[@RS20O0]

@@TimWaddington you could argue that if the bead does go down to 1 micron then there's no microns left for the tempest to filter out (assuming this is fitted to your pond that's running on the bead filter, but apologies if I've got that wrong)!

[@TimWaddington]

@@RS20O0 you are correct and something I think stopped me noticing any difference with the shower and this maybe the same. The bead is really amazing on that pond. However in the new year I will be adding to other ponds