New flex: plastic surgery

[@zoeunlimited]

What are your thoughts on the increasing prevalence of plastic surgery shown on social media? Also for all my dry & sensitive skin besties, here’s the link to the Belif Aqua bomb 💦 seph.me/3dfauv0

[@lllllIIllllIlllI]

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[@Butterbee1186]

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[@khalilahd.]

It’s honestly sad

[@pandakalove5383]

Well I’m 16 and I find that every one « look the same » at the end of procedures and I’m actually surprised that many people don’t really care about the wonderful genes that are given to them. Looking like my parent is such an incredible feeling but is it still there if we change everything that is unique about us just to fit today’s standards ? Social media affects every one of us even if we can’t see it first but I hope that at the end of the day we realise that social media does not have to represent our life

[@itsalwayshalloweenexceptwh5118]

Targeting teenagers is a bit irresponsible imo. And I also saw something last week which surprised me. I follow plastic surgery clinic yt channels and there was a lady who had gotten a nose job a few years ago who came back to redo it. My first thought was that I couldn't see anything wrong with it. She said the new trend is to have a slightly upturned nose tip so she was going with the trend and redoing her nose. People, please don't follow trends for the sake of following trends.

[@glowingsky1076]

Plastic surgery has become so normalised that it’s become okay to ask a person with a bumpy nose or small lips if they ever considered doing plastic surgery. Been asked that since I was 13.

[@julesa1754]

Find better friends otherwise, these folks will drag your self esteem down

[@khalilahd.]

Wow I’m so sorry. That’s ridiculous

[@astro3395]

@@julesa1754 it's not just friends it's family or old ladies

[@kiki-yz9pd]

@@astro3395 Tbh yeah i notice it's a lot older women who ask if you'll get it done. Like whoa, ik u want me to have freedom but it's kinda backhanded - especially when it's not even the topic of convo!!

[@astro3395]

@@kiki-yz9pd older ladies are especially good in getting in ya business 😂

[@nirvanakamala2809]

Plastic surgeons saying what they’d change about celebrities faces is so vile

[@bushral.tasneem5464]

That’s what I was thinking! The woman’s face was so gorgeous yet the surgeon was talking about how she’d make her more “beautiful “

[@The_Queen_of_Hell]

Shes a nurse! I dont trust nurse practitioners.. EVER!!

[@kt3068]

I believe that any plastic surgeon that suggest you/try to convince you to get a cosmetic surgery should get their license revoked

[@Ysa5657]

Ya. i understend why they are doing it- making people feeling more insecure will help their business , but still, it shows in what a mad mad world we live in

[@Em_Elizabeth]

It's so disrespectful

[@lora6816]

What bothers me is when they try to portray plastic surgery as feminist friendly thing

[@lora6816]

"Feminist friendly thing" idk if that makes sense,sorry if it sounds stupid my english is not very good. I didn't know how to explain it.

[@tdelioncourt1268]

I think "empowering" is the word you are looking for :)

[@lora6816]

@@tdelioncourt1268 thanks

[@ninjabrown8560]

Same, imho plastic surgery is inherently sexist and I don’t think my mind can be changed lmao

[@iamwoman.hearmeroar.6146]

Agreed. I’m not hopping onto the cosmetic-surgery- as- a- positive train. I forgot about that plastic/cosmetic surgery are quite different.

[@nizvkfb7vsbvrsct723]

I wonder how many people who have had purely cosmetic plastic surgery actually feel happier and better about themselves and dont just find the next "flaw" to obsess over

[@summer-xt1gg]

I think there have been studies and people do not experience increased satisfaction post-surgery; it usually leaves them wanting more surgery.

[@catherineb6889]

@@summer-xt1gg makes sense why so many people get an addiction

[@itsalwayshalloweenexceptwh5118]

@@summer-xt1gg This really depends on the type of surgery performed. People who get surgery to fix aesthetic abnormalities (for example people who have a crooked jaw but who have good bite function) are usually really happy with the results because they have made their appearance more normal. They don't typically go on to getting more procedures done. This is quite different from normal looking people who increase their bust size with a boob job or increase lip size with fillers. Isabella Demarko talked about the mental health consequences of lip filler that was really eye opening. What can happen is that once you get lip filler you love the new you so much that it causes mental anguish when the lip filler dissipates over time, so you're now stuck with the upkeep of getting fillers every so often in order to keep your mental state at least normal. This is a lot like someone who is okay with their appearance, and then one day decides to start using makeup, they like their face so much more with makeup that they start to see their natural self as ugly, then self esteem issues set in and you get people who can't go grocery shopping without makeup. Some people get more plastic surgery because they are never satisfied, others because they have body dysmorphia, others because they want attention, and others because they're actually really happy with the changes and are hungry for more because they are perfectionists who treat their body as raw material to mold however they see fit. I completely believe you when you say there have been studies that suggest people do not experience increased satisfaction post-surgery, but I think there needs to be some nuance here. It's a such a big field. People get surgery for so many reasons.

[@meeshmallows]

@@itsalwayshalloweenexceptwh5118 I don't think cosmetic surgery and injections can be accurated compared to wearing makeup. Makeup is washed off at the end of the day, you can't wash off your fillers or rhinoplasty. Wearing makeup or different kinds of makeup is more easily done just to achieve a specific aesthetic look, like wearing a miniskirt and boots versus tight pants and sneakers. Maybe frequency of makeup usage leading to increased dissatisfied with one's bare face would be more common in teenagers/young adults who are still in the process of feeling comfortable in the world and in their own skin? It's just not something I've personally experienced or heard from any of my friends but we're all over the age of thirty so it might be an age thing.

[@itsalwayshalloweenexceptwh5118]

@@meeshmallows I agree of course that makeup and rhinosplasty aren't the same thing because one washes off and the other is permanent (until you decide to get another nose job). My point was more towards makeup and fillers both being temporary. With fillers it just takes longer for you to get back to your natural self. If someone needs to do makeup every day or have routine filler maintenance in order to not feel bad I think that could be potentially problematic. I think low self esteem/low self image is rampant among teenagers and 20 somethings these days. Social media is so obsessed with looks and the use of filters/photo editing creates further unrealistic standards. As Zoe also mentioned people denying they've had plastic surgery when they did get it is also feeding into the problem.

[@craftyalligator1969]

I remember in junior year my teacher told me that I needed a nose job lol. She was like "You're so beautiful but your nose gets in the way. Get a nose job and you'll be perfect." What the hell am I even supposed to say to that?

[@MaryArts]

"Well, give me my $6000 then"

[@suides4810]

"Hallo principal, a teacher told me to get a nose job"

[@theraccoonqueen6513]

Teachers are getting wayyy too comfortable talking to their students like that

[@dubblebubbletoilandtrouble6646]

That was completely inappropriate and I would guess that her own insecurities were showing there.

[@moniyat]

@@schadenfreudeegoism7485 it's a backhand compliment, insulting their nose

[@torirae2789]

i've gotten 15 surgeries in my life, all of which were for medical purposes. I can't imagine going under the knife to change the way my face looks just to follow trends. For a long time I was incredibly insecure about my face and thought I was ugly, but as I've gotten older I realized I am beautiful, just not necessarily in a conventional way. I wish teenagers luck and hope they don't resort to plastic surgery in the future just to follow a trend.

[@mojito3779]

omg i'm so sorry you had to go through all of these surgeries :(( hope you're doing well now!! 💗

[@hillarysudeikis2264]

Good, don’t do it. Lord Jesus Christ is coming back everyone, please don’t worship celebrities and entertainment, focus on Him alone. I promise there’s more to life than money, partying, homosexuality and music. Hell is real, repent from sinning confess your sins and ask God to forgive you, I know He will if you’re sincere. Anyone who thinks the Name of Lord Jesus Christ is a joke, boldly mocks and scorns Him or takes pleasure in people who do is in for a big unpleasant surprise on judgement day IF they don’t repent and follow Lord Jesus Christ. Hell is very hot, people please repent! In the mighty name of Lord Jesus Christ, Amen 🙏💪✝️💜❤️✝️! Idolatry such as, Islam, Catholicism, Sangomaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Santa Clausism, Confucianism, New Age, Science, Evolution, halloweenism, Harry Potterism, Politics, Donald Trumpism, Easter Bunnyism and other religions/faiths that are outside Biblical Christianity lead to hell! Don’t believe them, believe the Almighty God the Father of Lord Jesus Christ, who begot Him. Our Creator, The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is mighty, He doesn’t need a woman to beget a son, He is God. I choose to put my faith in a God who can do anything and everything, a God who has unlimited and infinite power to beget! So, it’s time to confess that Lord Jesus Christ is the Lord and to believe that He died and rose from the grave after three days and you shall be saved if you only obey Him by praying, worshipping, praising, reading the Bible and living holy and righteously according to the Bible. You have to endure until the end, carry your cross daily and build your relationship with God by following Lord Jesus daily until the end. You must never renounce your faith in The Lord Jesus Christ, there’s hell awaiting those who reject/deny Lord Jesus Christ and those who continue living sinfully, even the Christians who don’t want to repent will face the same fate, so please repent beloved people, in Lord Jesus Christ’s mighty and precious Name, Amen.

[@isabellep]

Same! I had an operation on my nose a few months ago because of breathing problems, and the recovery was so awful I would never go through that again just for cosmetic reasons.

[@haute03]

As someone who had two surgeries that were medically necessary, I feel the exact same way.

[@honeybear5792]

Yup. As a teen myself I've seen people say, "If you're thinking about getting surgery wait until your 25" that's usually the age when decision making becomes more...rational i'd say.

[@Lavender-and-sage1]

What bothers me about this plastic surgery trend is that it seems like it’s working towards a very specific face type/image. It’s like it’s almost saying there’s one type of face that’s considered beautiful and if you have features that stray from that you’re ugly. There’s features on my face that I never noticed or cared about when I was younger that nowadays I’ve developed insecurities around 😞 to me seeing this kind of stuff just encourages more nitpicking of my own features

[@AmIWhatIAm]

Yeah, why are we such hypochrites? Trying to have beauty to be more inclusive yet at the same time we are getting more obsessed with these unrealistic beauty standards that we have to change ourselves?

[@cloudyskiees]

right, and its the same features expected on all races too i really wonder when this specific face will stop being the only acceptable one. everyone who wants to really make it on instagram has to adjust their face to be that way... lifted eyes and eyebrows, small upturned sloped nose, big plump lips, snatched face

[@zarahvanderlaan6584]

yes the thing is i used to hate my nose because it has this little bump, but them someone complimented me on it and then i started loving my nose. i realized that my nose is almost exactly the same as all those plastic surgery noses but when it became a trend i saw that type of nose almost everyday online and they look perfect but mine still has that little bump and it makes me think that my nose isn't good enough even though it almost fits in the beauty standarts (i dont even know what i think of my nose atm maybe im just being weird)

[@jakepie9879]

I so agree with u

[@schadenfreudeegoism7485]

@@cloudyskiees beauty is objective and objectively beautiful people will be considered beautiful everywhere.

[@sb3508]

Hi, I hope you are well 🙂 just a small point (from a plastic surgeon): Plastic surgery isn't exactly the same as Cosmetic or Aesthetic surgery. Plastic surgery includes reconstruction for trauma, cancer, congenital anomalies, and all sorts of other things. It includes restoring function, saving lives and reconstructing limbs. It would be great if nobody thought they needed cosmetic surgery.

[@EmmaJohnsonShenanigans]

and some people can’t inhale without their nostrils collapsing in so they get plastic surgery to help, and will probably ask for certain shapes as they’re already gonna be open you make a very good point

[@cherish_soul]

Yeah right. but some justify their cosmetic/aesthetic surgeries with their "injuries", like Zac Efron.

[@wake5307]

@@EmmaJohnsonShenanigans yeah….some people might be getting rhinoplasty for that reason but A LOT of people just use that as a lie of an excuse to get it done without trying to seem “vain” if that makes sense. Like, trying to hide the real reason they got the surgery done.

[@EmmaJohnsonShenanigans]

@@wake5307 well you’re gonna be getting surgery right there, might as well change the shape while you’re at it

[@shotgunbunny]

This is true, the gender affirming surgery I got (top surgery) is considered plastic surgery, I think it's a bit different than cosmetic/aesthetic surgery because it's treating my gender dysphoria

[@not.hepburn]

When I was in primary school, I read a book called Pretty. It's a series where when girls turn 18yo, they go get surgery to be beautiful. And the ones who didn't get it were poor and outcasts from society. I feel like our world is becoming like this dystopian book...

[@eclipselunar8758]

Whos the writter?

[@not.hepburn]

@@eclipselunar8758 It's Scott Westerfeld, but the series name is Uglies

[@menchita]

Like, South Korea these days?

[@animestudent3885]

@@menchita Damn

[@meghansullivan6812]

OMG I remember my sister read that series!!! Then wasn’t another boon called “uglies” ?

[@hannahdigitals]

definitely agree that the recent trend of transparency is a move in the right direction

[@schadenfreudeegoism7485]

This!

[@katgreer6113]

True.

[@mibs1075]

Ever since plastic surgery and nose jobs have been normalised and advertised, I’ve felt so conscious about my nose. Seeing so many pretty girls with tiny noses and perfectly symmetrical faces makes me feel like the only person who doesn’t look that way. It’s honestly so toxic that young teenagers are coming to a point where we consider having plastic surgeries.

[@Nuti196]

With all respect and just giving an advice - you should go out and look at people outside more often. It really makes you realize that all these perfect faces exist only on screens due to filters and general algorithms giving attention to a small group of people who just happen to look like that (+ make up, filters, good lightning, good angles, photoshop etc) simply because it is beneficial in a financial way for the companies When you look at people in the real life standing in front of you in 3D from all angles (not on the flat screen) with natural light you'll see that normal and natural people look different, always have small "flaws" and usually when you talk to them you don't even pay attention to these "flaws". And they also don't pay attention to your "flaws" unless they're assholes lol. It's honestly what's really beautiful because everyone is different Unless you live in LA or California in general - I heard it's another world over there and literally everyone gets plastic surgeries but I wasn't there so idk

[@URMom_AnDreWtAte-WhAtColOUR]

Same I feel the same

[@miirah7]

Me too, I didn't actually know my nose was big or something but as I saw social media, I became conscious of it even wore face mask, hid while eating at school so no-one will see my nose. I cried and compared myself to my classmate with pointed nose but I learnt to love myself and the nose my parents gave me

[@mibs1075]

@@miirah7 I relate to that so much. Back when the coronavirus was very bad, we were expected to where masks all the time in school and the only time we'd take them off was at lunch. I was so insecure of my acne that i would consider not eating lunch because it meant people would see my face. I've definitely become less insecure of my face over time but it's hard learning to accept yourself :)

[@femmefatale4442]

While we are talking about plastic surgery, I hate it when people, especially men, humiliate women who get plastic surgery to look "attractive". While plastic surgery should not be encouraged for aesthetics, most of these women are getting plastic surgery because of insecurity, making them feel more insecure isn't doing anything productive for anyone. Especially since it comes out of a place of misogyny a lot of the time, like men wanting "real, natural girls" over "plastic girls". Probably the same type of people who think women who wear makeup are trashy. There are better ways to discourage plastic surgery, making fun of someone isn't it.

[@GG-gh8dy]

👏👏

[@madeehaparkar848]

yes exactly! i agree

[@estherandherlittleworld7821]

yessssss

[@skrittle555]

the worst part is it was 100% young boys who made fun of me for my nose as a child. damned if you do, damned if you don't. well i'll be damned if i listen to anyone else about how i should look anymore haha

[@limpchees]

It's like getting told that because you were born a certain way you are damned forever no matter how much you work to fix that

[@lalakuma9]

As a geriatric and out-of-touch Millennial, I'm more surprised that these people premeditated making a TikTok about their plastic surgery. They saved videos lipsyncing to a chosen audio track BEFORE their plastic surgery, and then finished recording themselves lipsyncing to it during and after recovering from the surgery. They're even more obsessed about TikTok than just about their appearance.

[@sonyac.8205]

Yes that always struck me as crazy. Like if you truly wanted to do it for yourself why would you want others to acknowledge you did it so badly? I personally can't stand the whole making everything you do into a spectacle. People just be sharing everything

[@kidawesomeness123]

The first sentence made me giggle skskks

[@PaxDTess]

Thinking of your body as a gift from your parents is such a beautiful way of looking at it. Great discussion

[@itsalwayshalloweenexceptwh5118]

My parents gifted me bad genetics because I have crooked jaw/chin (because of invasive connective tissue bone disorder) and prominent brow bone. Why is the face I was born with better or more reflective of "the real me" than the one I would choose for myself?

[@PaxDTess]

@@itsalwayshalloweenexceptwh5118 easy there... I never said that it´s better or mor reflective. Only that it´s a beautyful way of looking at it. Obviously it´s not for everyone no perspectiv ever is :)

[@itsalwayshalloweenexceptwh5118]

​@@PaxDTess I think it can be a very limiting perspective. I've seen it in real life. Parents upset and angry that their adult child wants to change their appearance or expresses any kind of dislike for certain features they have. I've seen women talk about their situation where their father was angry with them for "giving up the family nose". There's usually a lot of guilt tripping, finger pointing and blaming going on. Families fight over this, some parents try to blackmail or manipulate their adult children into not getting plastic surgery because the parents either see it as a betrayal or they feel guilty for passing on certain traits. Even with my bone disorder I still look a lot like my maternal grandmother, and my mother lost her mom when she was 14. The thought of me doing anything permanent to my face scared my mother because she thought I would no longer look like her mom which she misses. That's all very touching but I'm not my grandmother. My mom and I had some discussions about this and it was obvious she always felt hurt when we talked about the subject. It was all eventually solved though. I had a friend take professional photos and someone run a simulation of the procedures. If you look at just the "after" photo it's still obviously me, not someone else, and even though you can see something changed you can't pinpoint what has changed until you put the before and after pictures side by side. Then you suddenly see a big improvement. My mother saw these and was assured and happy.

[@TaliankaSings]

I don’t look at it as what my parents gave me, but as what my heritage and ancestors are, I think it is beautiful having this deep story behind our features and it makes us so distinctive in many cases.

[@whoasked6696]

I look at it more as “I would never tell this to my younger self” and when I look at myself when I was a little kid smiling in photos, not worrying about these things, I feel happier. This is for her.

[@MaryArts]

I just wanna say, that the examples you have shown, all had beautiful noses before and after. It is just my preference that big hooked noses make you look distinctive and strong. My friend said: It makes you look like a greek Goddess/God. Btw I thought about plastic surgery when I was under 18 as well. But now that I am a bit older, I don't care anymore. It is important we talk about, how teenage hormons want us to do stuff, that we don't care about or wouldn't do just a couple of years after puberty.

[@katerinap.5662]

Check out Анна Ахматова (Anna Akhmatova), she was a russian poetess of the 20th century. An absolutely stunning face with strong yet elegant features. She is one of the few famous people that I remember what they look like just from looking at her once.

[@Maleetorres105]

Yeah exactly seeing everyone get the same nose job is crazy, whats wrong with ones that don't look like that. Proportion is more important than shape for the face. I have a riged prominent nose profile but no handsome man I've dated has ever had a problem or noticed. You can still be really pretty with a different nose shape. Like you said it has a elegant, interesting Mediterranean look to it

[@bushral.tasneem5464]

@@katerinap.5662 You’re right! She’s stunning

[@WiWillemijn]

@@katerinap.5662 I was sceptic, but you're right! She is really beautiful and her nose adds to the beauty. It looks cool.

[@ruum9]

Malee Torres also , your facial features are made to fit with each other correctly, so when you alter a certain feature it might look good alone but not look good with your other features and basically seem out of place, this is one risk of cosmetic surgery

[@kenziewinchester3304]

If someone wants to get surgery for themself that’s ok but when they do it to conform with beauty standards they don’t seem to realize they are a constantly changing thing and soon enough some of these things they are changing won’t even be the beauty standard in a few years (most likely). If you do it for yourself that’s amazing for you but never Change yourself just to fit into society’s version of “beautiful” or “perfect”

[@niniceli]

i totally agree and if i had to add something id say that if you do get surgery please just don't lie and act like you didn't

[@summer-xt1gg]

Absolutely no one wants “surgery for themselves”; we are all influenced by beauty trends and cannot even see our own faces. It won’t kill you to think critically.

[@isabelayourboyfriendsheeee2791]

@@summer-xt1gg Yes, we all are. Some more than others but still. Someone maybe wants to change a feature of them, for them.

[@isabelayourboyfriendsheeee2791]

@@niniceli I agree. You already did it. Why try to hide it?? You already went through all this. You wanted it. Don't try to hide it or refuse it.

[@summer-xt1gg]

@@isabelayourboyfriendsheeee2791 if you’re changing your face to fit societal beauty perceptions, you’re not doing that for yourself. You’re paying someone to put you through an unnecessary medical procedure that will not impact your overall well-being because studies show that most people are not happier post-surgery; they just want more surgery. That’s the opposite of doing something “for yourself”. If you really wanted to do something for yourself, you’d get therapy to analyze why you’re feeling like your appearance is inadequate.

[@theaudjob3267]

I'm all for plastic surgery for medical reasons, like severely deviated septums or cleft lip/palate. However in cases of someone getting it to conform to Eurocentric beauty standards I think is wrong and shows a larger cultural/societal issue.

[@taylorlover4244]

A girl in my class posts highly filtered/edited/really posed pictures of herself on social media. Today she told me she is planning on getting a nose job next year. We are both 16. I just find this so so so bizarre and feel like there is something wrong with wanting to permanently alter yourself to fit a standard. At the end of the day, she will (and should) do whatever she wants but I just find it sad :/ Edit: today she told us with a grin on her face that her mum is letting her get a nose job because she got one at 16 too…

[@taylorlover4244]

@@hikikom I haven’t said anything about bullying. Her nose is normal. Not the beauty standard, but it doesn’t stand out.

[@bushral.tasneem5464]

That’s upsetting. Tbh, I don’t think most people even care about how your nose looks. Only you do. Social media definitely has had a really negative impact on our society.

[@Emmie16]

Hey Zoe! I’m fifteen and I love watching your videos about mental health and social commentary, I really appreciate your openness about your own journey. As we all do, I have struggled with learning to love myself the way I was created, but your comment at the end about our faces and bodies being gifts from our parents really changed my mind. It’s so beautiful to think about my parents and grandparents passing on their legacy to me! Anyway, that’s all! Thanks!

[@amoonynight]

Awww this is so cute!

[@bushral.tasneem5464]

I’m 15 too and you wrote exactly what I was thinking!

[@kayleew4433]

You know to add to what you said at the end about our bodies being a gift from our parents. It’s more than that, every feature and detail, shape and color we’ve inherited is the story of all of our ancestors from the past 300,000+ years. To me, when I feel self conscious and want to change something because I hate a part of my body, I just think… I was gifted this by those who lived, fought, and survived through those thousands of years and I’ve ended up with this unique feature because of their struggles. I’m grateful and it gives me a different outlook where I can view my body and face as the history of those whose lives culminated in the existence of me. Idk, ever since I got that perspective I’ve never considered changing myself. I was so close to lip fillers and a nose job before. But now, it’s not just my nose, it’s the nose of those who came before and of my family. Changing it doesn’t feel right when I think about it that way, and I’m happy seeing it even if aesthetically I don’t always love it.

[@oligirlstales386]

This reminds me of a video from Edvasion about how "you're not ugly, just broke" Great vid Zoe loved hearing your opinion on plastic surgery ✨ Missed those sirens too XD

[@silvia6790]

I think that it's great that people are transparent about what they have had done. But I also think that it's best to wait until you're 25, because that's when your brain fully develops, and you'll be able to make important decisions. I'm not saying don't do it, you definetely should if it makes you happy. Just postpone it until you're 25, see how you'll feel then, and then make your decision. And if you still want to go through with it, do your research. Take rhinoplasty for example. A lot of patients aren't aware that actually a small lucky portion of people who have done a nose job, get their desired results with just one surgery. And also, did you know that you can know where your ancestors came from based on how big your nose is? People with smaller noses's ancestors usually come from areas with cold climate. You don't want to breathe in a lot of the cold air and endanger your health. People with bigger noses's ancestors, on the other hand, are believed to have originated from areas with hot and humid climate, making the oxygen levels less dense, and thus requiring bigger nostrils. And another fun fact, most of my friends with small noses are mouth breathers, including me, which causes not so great sleep quality and quite a few health issues. So be aware of the risks before getting a procedure. Everything comes at a price.

[@bushral.tasneem5464]

That’s a really cool fact! Makes me feel happy about my large nose

[@silvia6790]

@@bushral.tasneem5464 yes, bigger noses are better in my opinion. The air that enters your lungs has a better quality because it’s been cleaned by your nasal airways. And when it’s cold out, you are less likely to get ill, because the air coming through the nose gets warmed.

[@aeoligarlic4024]

Crank that to 30 if anything. You'll be mindblown when you realize the difference of your mental state during 25 and 30

[@somewhereisgone]

Being yourself unapologetically and not being brainwashed into needing surgery to be beautiful is the flex. 🤙 ;)

[@user-hp5cf5kf8k]

I think it's interesting how plastic surgery positivity is growing in the west but in kpop most idols don't even want to acknowledge it

[@schadenfreudeegoism7485]

They don't acknowledge it because they don't need to. Everyone just knows that they have work done.

[@emmmmz]

Plastic surgery is actually way more common in Korea. I think most people just assume all the idols got plastic surgery... teenage girls get double eyelid surgery as birthday gifts. Lip filler costs like $25. It's crazy

[@saumyavig8964]

Cuz yall shame them like this bro, see the comment section, read the room lmao. I dont wanna hear you guys call yourself feminists after you shit on people for having ps lmao. The contradictions of americans bruh.

[@emmmmz]

@@saumyavig8964 you're an idiot lol. Feminism is about more than empowerment for everything. I don't blame these women for having plastic surgery, but it's a product of our misogynistic culture that so many of them are women in the first place.

[@EnijhzaECheyru]

@@saumyavig8964 That part💯

[@marinluver]

Its disgusting how normalized plastic surgery has become, personally i don't have any problems with adults doing it since its their body and their decision but can society please stop telling young people that they gotta do it too to "feel pretty and accepted"?

[@meganbayram5092]

When I was younger I always wanted to get my nose done, and sometimes I still do. But mostly I am not going to do it because I realized I’m not “doing it for me” like people always say when they get something done, like hell no I’m definitely doing it to fit a standard and be seen as beautiful by society. I don’t want to put myself through that just to please society but at the same time I can’t seem to let go of the idea of becoming beautiful. Edit: typo

[@mojito3779]

ughhh i am going through the same thing!! i couldn't care less about what beauty standards want me to look like but as a teenage girl it's so difficult to not feel ugly. i see so many tiktoks that are captioned 'tips for teenage girls' and all the tips are just make up tips like?? it's no wonder so many women feel ugly..

[@nairobi8337]

@@mojito3779 If you’re a teenager don’t touch you’re body and face. You’re changing and your nose will probably change too

[@strawberryj3lly]

Same. I got my mommas nose it’s a hooked one and I really dislike it. I’ve contemplated plastic surgery numerous times throughout my teens ever since the bullying first started. I’m much older now but I still sometimes look and wonder what id look like with a different nose-my weird fantasy may come true though as in my early childhood my neighbor threw a baseball at it and it broke. I recently got a check up and the doctor asked me if I broke my nose at some point-obviously I said yes and he just went, “You do realize it never healed correctly right?” Uh no wtf???

[@emmmmz]

@@mojito3779 if it's any comfort I hated a lot of my features as a teenager but I definitely feel like I grew into those features now. I can't imagine changing any of them, you end up changing the whole harmony of your face and it'll never be the same! I still get insecure sometimes but not nearly as bad as when I was a teenager. It gets better.

[@allie9661]

I have a longer more downturned nose and I’ve always wanted a nose job. I just don’t want to be shamed if I do get it. but I also don’t wanna give away the features my parents gave me, I just find that a bit disrespectful ngl.

[@adonissabinorio2639]

i never understood that excuse ‘i do it for myself’ NO! it always goes back to the beauty standards. at least admit it to yourself. there’s literally no such thing.

[@itsalwayshalloweenexceptwh5118]

Anyone who becomes more conventionally attractive because of PS gets a great benefit from it because society will treat them better, so most people are doing it for themselves (their benefit).

[@Jaesdaes]

Then it's just to conform. Never for yourself.

[@adonissabinorio2639]

@@itsalwayshalloweenexceptwh5118 that’s not always a guarantee tho. let’s also not forget that people can become obsessed with it (change everything and possibly ruin their face) and it’s not gonna look good long term.

[@itsalwayshalloweenexceptwh5118]

@@adonissabinorio2639 Of course plastic surgery has pros and cons and everyone who wants it needs to think long and hard. You don't want to end up botched.

[@emmmmz]

Same with makeup. Yeah I have fun doing my makeup, but realistically us girls wouldn't be doing it if our natural faces were considered the standard like it is for guys.

[@ashlynshields988]

Quit social media/anything that triggers insecurity’s, block mirrors and don’t wear makeup for a month. These things helped me. Therapy might be a good idea too. Try anything before spending thousands for a dangerous procedure over something that never really mattered. I googled rhinoplasties as a kid because I have a nose bump. I still struggle with it. But then I realized, really?? I struggle with a little bump on my nose? When there’s actual real problems in the world? I hope we begin to lose this obsession with beauty. A few years back I became a Christian and my healing began. I believe beauty can be a fun thing, but we often take it much too far.

[@notastargurlyett]

i did those things too, except for the mirror thing. now i use wayy less social media and i am in peace with myself.

[@khalilahd.]

I think it all depends on the reasoning behind it. A lot of people do it due to body image issues but don’t understand that the only way they’ll truly feel beautiful is if they do the intrinsic work. If you’re genuinely happy and want something touched up I don’t think that’s a problem but not if you’re covering up different issues. Just my opinion

[@aloo2008]

What I hate the most about all this is that if someone admits to have gotten plastic surgery, then, it's all good. Well it's not. It is not okay to have plastic surgery at all, whether you admit it or not. In fact, it's arguably worse since people feel like getting surgery is okay

[@orangepeelqueen2787]

I'm so glad I'm terrified of surgery. I have seen waaaaay too many stories of just how horrifically wrong plastic surgery can go, even 'small' things like filler. I'd rather have a bump in my nose than have the whole thing rot and fall off.

[@ohokaythankyou]

When you said, “our face and body are gifts from our parents”…. 🥺 I grew up wanting a nose job so bad. I hated my nose. When I was a young child, I would draw people and I would intentionally not draw noses onto their faces. Reframing it like that is so beautiful. I love my dad. And I should love the nose he gave me.

[@deismuarti]

I can't be the only one that thinks high bridge noses are beautiful. It just looks so stunning.

[@Moocow2003]

I think they add a lot of character to a face. Especially if someone owns it with confidence

[@boomsharkalaka]

the more normalized plastic surgery is getting the more insecure I'm getting

[@tammy1598]

This sums it up so well. I can totally relate

[@isbalella]

Why? More people having the "instagram face" means more of them are forgettable. When I look at them I honestly feel like I'm looking at a blank sheet of paper or something. Pretty soon natural will be rare and more highly praised.

[@rosen1t]

@@isbalella exactly. they all look the same and eventually when this beauty standard dies out they’ll want something else sooo, none of them will ever fully be satisfied

[@meikoluvv]

I used to hate my nose before I had a phone. And ever since I was exposed in a young age I hated it even more. Now I don’t care anymore. The thing is, all these girls have one thing in common. The want the same nose, the same butt, and the same everything. They’re just replicas. They’re just duplicates of each other and lack distinction because of society finds trendy. They’re all the same, when in reality is as humans are supposed to be unique… they’re hollow.

[@meikoluvv]

@@isbalella so true. Like they just look copy and pasted.

[@sandrazalachen352]

People need to understand that ethnic features are beautiful 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@EnijhzaECheyru]

Beauty is subjective.

[@guyincognito9698]

What is ‘ethnic’?

[@evi6629]

I understand the "it's womens' choice, let them do what they want" narrative, when looking at it we have to remember that it's a teaction not just to genuine concerns, but also a hypocritic and mysoginistic society that demands these unrealistic standards for women but shames them for trying to meet them. They want all women to look like supermodels, but also not to put in any effort to look like supermodels because that's "false advertising." They've attached a moral worth to beauty and are mad at plastic surgery or makeup for not letting them filter out the ugly people they hate as easily. At the same time, just because the harassment is bad, doesn't mean the act that's being shamed is good. The cosmetig surgery indsury is predatory, and built on completely unrealsitic beauty standards. How can we know if the choice to get surgery is an authentic one or not when people are bombarded with these beauty standards and harassed for not meeting them since childhood? Especially teenage girls are so vulnerable to this. I used to catalogue all the flaws i thought my face had (the little crook in my nose, my hooded lids and low eyebrows, my large forehead) and research all the surgeries that could "fix" them when I was *13 years old* I'm 19 now, and I don't want to get plastic surgery anymore, but if i had heen offered the chance at 16 i might have raken it, and i would have regretted it now. The problem is the system, not the people the system is exploiting. And whiel it's good to counteract the shaming of women, whether they genuinely wanted the surgery or caved to enormous pressure from society, that does nothing to fix the root problem. The root problem is misoginy, beauty standards, and a money hungry indsutry willing to epxloit people's insecurities to make money off of them.

[@mims4598]

The last straw for me was seeing someone get fillers in their FOREHEAD to get rid of the wrinkles one gets when lifting their brows. That convey emotions.

[@ananyakhalkar8533]

Let's be honest now. Not everyone is 'beautiful' in the sense being physically attractive. Yes, beauty standards change but still a rough idea about what is attractive and what is not will never change. For example being 'skinny' Or having a small waist whether it is thick 'skinny' Or just skinny. Another example is Eurocentric features. Acne which is completely normal will always be 'ugly'. I think in today's word we give too much importance to outer beauty and not much to real virtues like kindness, compassion, intelligence etc. So I think we should stop giving importance to outer beauty if we want things to change

[@thesevenkingswelove9554]

Exactly. The more importance we give to beauty the more people will do plastic surgery or other changes to make themselves "beautiful"

[@Azulagirlboss]

I agree that transparency is a good step but it might also contribute to normalising it. People will go, “oh I am transparent, therefore this is totally normal to get done”. There’s no need to remove all stigma around everything.

[@thegoldthatglitters]

Exactly what I was thinking

[@enjisilverstone-nolongerac7533]

Don’t get me started on the “natural beauty” bs they start after doing it

[@Moocow2003]

It's actually insane how many of these 'before vs after nose job' tiktoks feature people with the exact same nose as me as the 'before'. I'm lucky to have fallen in love with my nose just the way it is before I ever saw any of this, because I could definitely imagine it hurting me when I was younger. But I have my mother's nose and it suits us so well ❤️

[@martycosplay]

I used to hate my nose and desperately wanted to get a nose job when I was 14. Luckily, I decided to wait until in 18 to do that. When 18 came my nose was already smaller because my face actually aged naturally, and therefore there was no need. Also, I gained confidence by that time and didn't feel the need anyways. And now I'm 25 and literally make money as a photomodel! But if I saw those tiktoks at that time, I might have gone sooner and ruin my face! 😱 So! Girls, if you're reading this, please, if you hate anything about yourself and are considering a surgery, maybe try waiting it off first. You're gorgeous, even if you might not see it yet 🥰 you got this ❤️

[@nofilterbtxh5000]

My question is always the same :”WHERE THE HELL DO Y’ALL FIND THE MONEY!?”

[@dlaney6041]

as an artist it killed me to see that first girl change her nose because guldurnit I love drawing peoples profiles and there are so many cool noses that make a face more interesting

[@picklepirate]

Right, women with longer noses have a cool girl vibe. So much beautiful personality and uniqueness

[@hhyyh-bg5wh]

zoe has got to be my most favorite influencer ever. love you queen xx

[@zey9240]

11:38 “and the fact that beauty doesn’t come in one form, our face out face and body are honestly from our parents and there’s something uniqe and beautiful about that.” I love the way you worded that❤❤❤

[@madammadonna]

When I was a teen (20 years ago) I watched plastic surgery shows. The recovery periods made me never want one. Maybe I will change my mind in 15 years, but now I'm good. I still look younger than my age. People on average give me 10 years less than I am.

[@ml37856]

i’m taking sociology of medicine rn and the crazy thing about plastic surgery is how it’s marketed by corporations and promoted as a necessity. specifically how it is marketed to women and how we have deemed certain things as “sicknesses” with “treatments” available, where some “sicknesses” are treated with greater stigma than others. for example, male pattern baldness and erectile dysfunction are considered illnesses and treated as such, but the question is why considering the definition of health. we view surgery for hair implants necessary but breast implants cosmetic. we could also go into doctors that agree to do these procedures not at the benefit of the patient but at the benefit of their bank account and how doctors have been doing this for years (just look into the opioid epidemic and pharm reps) but i digress,

[@ChatteNoireBlanche]

I think it is more like "everyone will notice and accuse me of surgery, so I might just come upfront with it and monetarize it myself!". I think it is great there is more transparency, surgery faces are already nor milized just like filtered faces are, they are just not labeled as what they are

[@QueenBoudicca125]

You're videos are really helping me with some major self esteem issues and I just want to say thank you.

[@teclinsoro4523]

i have a very similar nose to all of those girls in their ‘before’ videos, and i would never even dream of getting rid of it. my nose is just like my dad’s, and since he passed away a long time ago it’s one of the few things i have to remember him by. that being said, i was incredibly insecure about it for a while, especially when i was younger. i dread to think of how i would have reacted to seeing this type of content at that age

[@sareneve1626]

the thing that really disturbs me is that plastic surgery has become more popular in terms of aligning towards the "instagram face," and "instagram body," aligning towards that impossible combination of different ethnic features. we all want to look the same, think the same, etc. it's kind of weird and so dystopian.

[@Mashiris]

I have a classmate that got her nose done, ngl it looks nice, I was scrolling thru her ig to look how her nose looked before, and I’m not kidding and I don’t say this often but her pre op nose looked beautiful, she didn’t even had any bump or anything, it looked like the type of nose everyone wants for surgery, her cosmetic surgery was extremely unnecessary. (Edit: typo)

[@sophiemariefarr]

anyone else always get so exited whenever Zoe posts? love your videos! ❤

[@skrittle555]

personally, i think we should normalize getting therapy for your low self esteem before jumping right to invasive procedures. plastic surgery can be ok, but it shouldn't be thought of as a "solution" for low self esteem. that work is done internally. get something done with low self esteem, and you'll end up like michael jackson. obsessed, never happy, chasing unattainable perfection. when you were perfect to begin with.

[@em_mmeow]

i thought michael jackson had a skin disease?

[@skrittle555]

@@em_mmeow i never thought i'd have to say this, but vitiligo does not cause your nose to shrink or your face to lift... it changes your skin tone.

[@em_mmeow]

@@skrittle555 okay! i didnt know and i was afraid to search something up and see those cursed edited images people made of him. thanks for responding :)

[@beepboop8276]

I’m with your mum on this. Plastic surgery for cosmetic purposes is wrong and brings more problems than it’s worth. Although I will say it’s not the sole cause of body expectations, but also can be the result of societal pressure. Still does not make it right.

[@Azulagirlboss]

Altering my natural, beautiful, self to “fit in” an ever changing “body/face type” trend, I couldn’t be caught dead. Ever since I learned about cosmetic procedures, I don’t find celebrities who are hailed as “beautiful”, all that beautiful at all. Because I can see rhinoplasty, brow lifts, skin tightening & where the micro needling has taken place. More minus points if I have seen a before and after. People with unique features used to be scouted till the 80s or maybe even till the mid 00s and the that’s not the case anymore because 1. Nepotism in fashion/modelling & 2. No longer are features unique. Every look is achievable so long as you have money (or manage a discounted/free procedure) & willing to risk a botched procedure. And don’t cry “beauty standards those days to me”. What makes you think we don’t have that now? Do you not have a standard of beauty you hope to achieve someday or have already? *Please don’t tie your worth to this.*

[@angelwings967]

Nothing is wrong with micro needling… 😅

[@shlokaswain2118]

Hi zoe, a seventeen yr old subscriber of yours here. I completely agree with plastic surgery related contents being marketed to younger audience as I remember thinking when I was 13 or 14 to get a nose job done when I grow older and its due to videos like these I realised my nose might not be my ideal nose but I dont need plastic surgery to fix it either. The transparency surrounding plastic surgery and its complications is definitely a great step and one of the reasons I realised I dont want a nose job 💀

[@unbothered_soul]

Idk how to say this. But i wasn't feeling good about my visuals as well. Then i started to take pics of mine from time to time just to see what should i change when I'll have money to get work done. But this actually worked in opposite for me. Like the more i used to stare at my pics to find flaws to work on,the more i found myself attractive. I'm glad it worked for me that way cuz I'm more than confident about myself now. And yeah thanks for always making videos about important topics and presenting both pros and cons about it. We love an unbiased and neutral queen who brings awareness spl to Young people cuz those delicate years can leave a deep scar if not put to check 🥺. And my opinion about this would be that it's all about individual preference. If anyone feels like they wanna get work done go ahead. But be very sure about it cuz as said some changes could be irreversible and won't be able to restore. Love you zoe 😘

[@tinybullfrog1955]

As a person with multiple chronic illnesses and chronic pain, I have no understanding of why a person would subject themselves to something as risky and torturous as a BBL. All bodies are hard at work - that is why all bodies are beautiful.

[@nekoshey]

I'm just so tired of superficiality being celebrated. I don't care if it's 'human' to be superficial or not. I think we can do, and deserve better than a world that tells you "It's okay to be different... But if you do want to fit in, you can buy that with enough cash and just a little bit of self-mutilation.". Like what? If the only other option is to be, or at least feel like an outcast, how is it really optional? For the average person, who wants to fit in and achieve, it's optional only by technical definition. And the worst part is that things like these don't really even change much. Having a different nose isn't going to change most things about your life - but outside influences are going to try to convince you that it will. Whether by companies for money, or everyday people trying to validate their personal choices through others. But honestly, I don't see a way around it. These superficial beauty standards and procedures are going to be the future for all of us, unless we as people decide to get smart very fast. And maybe one day medical technology will reach a point where there aren't any downsides to undergoing cosmetic surgery, and it will be freely available to all. But until that happens, it's going to be a very miserable part of the human experience, one that should never have been necessary to begin with.

[@summer-xt1gg]

I feel like plastic surgery = low self esteem. Love yourself, don’t change it for beauty trends. You are worth the same whether or not you have wrinkles and big lips. No one has plastic surgery for themselves; choices don’t exist in a vacuum, we are all impacted by beauty standards and are unable to see our own faces. Babes you need therapy, not syringes.

[@itsalwayshalloweenexceptwh5118]

"No one has plastic surgery for themselves" I think in a lot of cases they do because individuals benefit from the better treatment they get when they are more beautiful. Some, like in SK, do it because becoming more conventionally attractive affords them better job prospects and romantic prospects. Insecure people do it because they want to feel better about themselves. So I think very few people get surgery for the sake of others (for example someone wanting to please their partner who prefers bigger breasts) and most of it is to please themselves. I'm not making excuses for it though. I think low self esteem isn't a good reason for surgery.

[@summer-xt1gg]

@@ariesmry I fully believe that caving to patriarchal racist capitalistic beauty standards is a sign of weakness and is inherently bad for us as individuals. I have a marketing degree lmao; I know choices don’t exist in a vacuum- we play on peoples low self esteem to influence purchases like cosmetic procedures. When I say that you are capable of choosing to get therapy to get better self esteem and that will benefit you just as much as- or more than- gaining false temporary self esteem from pretty privilege would. Especially because the standard is always changing. I still remember when we said people with upturned noses were “pigs” now that’s what girls are showing their surgeons. Changing yourself physically to fit a standard that will disappear is very counter intuitive to seeking happiness or doing something “for yourself”. The only person benefiting is your surgeon/nurse. We need to push back against societal beauty standards; bending ourselves to meet them is impossible, draining, and backwards. Or don’t; makes my job easier if people continue to be this easy to influence lol. (& Cosmetic surgery will not allow anyone to escape harassment; anecdotal but I get harassed MORE when I look good.)

[@summer-xt1gg]

@@itsalwayshalloweenexceptwh5118 I think people should admit to themselves that giving yourself Instagram face isn’t doing something “for yourself”; the only person benefiting is your surgeon and their investors. Studies show people are not happier post-surgery; and beauty trends always change. How could changing yourself permanently to meet a temporary standard be doing something for yourself? Nah lol. Please use critical thinking bestie

[@itsalwayshalloweenexceptwh5118]

​@@summer-xt1gg It's doing something when you benefit from becoming more conventionally attractive. "Pretty privilege" is something you benefit from regardless if you have low self esteem or not. Your life is measurably easier even if you feel no change in your self esteem or self image post surgery. Some beauty standards change, some beauty standards never change. Getting surgery to follow temporary trends is not wise. Yes, the system sucks. But this does not mean you have to marter yourself (by not doing anything to change your appearance temporarily or permanently) in order to make things better or to not be seen as weak. I think the real change is going to come from investigating your own biases, preferences, etc. Asking yourself why you have the preferences you have, if that aligns with current norms, what your biases are, how other people's looks and your own looks affect your perception of them and interaction with them, what your preconceived notions are, etc. And encouraging others to do the same. Become more self aware. This doesn't mean I have to shave my hair off and start wearing shapeless linnen dresses in order to not be a hypocrite. There's nothing wrong with engaging in things that make us feel beautiful. I'm also not convinced no-one is happy with their surgery result. You could use studies to prove pretty much anything.

[@itsalwayshalloweenexceptwh5118]

@@ariesmry Thank you, this is a really intelligent and well thought out comment that covers pretty much everything regarding the topic.

[@jisoo1571]

Such an interesting topic! And one that’s quite personal to me. Not only does social media trend it to younger audiences, but in my country I was shocked to find out that only young people can technically get cosmetic surgery on the NHS… which is insane to me because how can you be in a state to make a decision like that at 16 but have to be severely deformed at 20?! It gives young people this massive pressure because they might not get the opportunity again :(

[@magiciansarcana]

Plastic surgery that I do think should be approved of regardless is changing very extreme features that the person is unhappy with. I've seen girls with very big noses glow after a surgery that leaves them with not a cute button nose, but one that looks proportional. Girls with big boobs being able to recover from their eating disorder because the breast reduction they had on their large and sagging boobs that just WOULD NOT get smaller without surgery finally made them see their body as it is. I think surgeries like this should never be up for debate, because usually it's not a "what am I aspiring to fix next?" thing but a "this one thing is impacting me to a mental health point regardless of body trends" thing. Body parts being disproportionate to the rest of your body takes a toll on you.

[@marinaprieto8805]

I agree with you for most of the points. If you're fine with it, and everyone's fine, well no problem. But doing to fit the standards, to me it would let the society win over our individual beauty. But, as a queer person, I also know I would give anything to have a more neutral body, like a flat chest. So at some point, it becomes mentally necessary... Btw, thank you for your amazing videos, they always help me when I struggle with body image or my thoughts, so yeah, thank you from the bottom of my heart. Keep doing what you like!

[@summer-xt1gg]

Gender/Identity affirming surgeries are not “cosmetic”; they can be life saving I don’t think they belong in the same convo tbh

[@MaryArts]

I think, it would be all fine and dandy, if surgeons would make extra sure they and the patient are informed. Also with modern medicine, before a product or procedure comes to the market, it is tested for years. This does not apply to cosmetic surgery. 1. The surgeon doesn't have to be a studied doctor. 2. There are so many procedures that destroy your body and surgeons only find out about that, years after they had done the procedure on thousands of people. So yeah, if you are fine with it and everyone is fine, it would be no problem. But there is a chance you are not fine with when your body gets harmed years after the procedure. I hope that if you get a procedure done someday, the surgeon will do you no harm. But I guess chest operations are pretty safe. I am mostly talking about injections. Stay safe.

[@summer-xt1gg]

@@fernanda4227 I don’t think you can compare your experience as a cis person chasing the beauty standard to trans people wanting their body to match their gender identity. We are able to accept people as their gender without saying they need to have the corresponding physical sex traits. But seeking pretty privilege; and seeking to be acknowledged by society as the gender you identify as and feeling like you’re in the correct body are two very different things. Incomparable things. So, no lol.

[@marinaprieto8805]

@@summer-xt1gg Yeah I know, I completely agree. But as I talked about it with my doctor, she told me that it was cosmetic surgery, so yeah... That's why I pointed it out ^^'

[@marinaprieto8805]

@@MaryArts Oh thanxx, I didn't know about the things you knew about the surgeons... Thank you ! And I acknowledge that there's a risk, and therefore, I am not sure to do anything to my body. I still like it a lot, it's my home for my whole life, but sometimes I get so insecure... I can't decide at this point... Thank youuuuu for your support, that's really nice 🥺

[@khushikukreja1703]

The queen is here🤩🤩🤩

[@nataliag6885]

Ever since I can remember I’ve been insecure about my features, particularly my nose, I always thought it didn’t fit my face, and I even considered getting plastic surgery in hopes of feeling better about myself. I changed my mind once my mom asked if I would tell my children they have to get plastic surgery if they were born with my nose and I felt so guilty about thinking my nose was ugly. Now whenever I feel insecure about anything I try to think my daughter is coming to me with these same insecurities and it helps alleviate some of it; I try to think I’m beautiful because in the same way I wouldn’t tell my daughter those things make her ugly, they don’t make me ugly either.

[@sashaseckers]

I think people forget that plastic surgery is part of an industry, and while they’re there to help, they’re also happy to sell you solutions to manufactured problems. WHY do you dislike the way your nose looks? WHY do you dislike the size of your lips? WHY do you want to change these things? Is it for yourself? Or is it for others? If you existed in a room by yourself where no one else could ever see you, would you still feel the need to change something?

[@pinkmelon1125]

I had really bad sinusitis due to a distorted nasal septum and the doctor suggested to get a surgery..I was so scared to lose my natural features which I absolutely adore. Thankfully it got managed by medications :)

[@Sarah-vi4cx]

Also many plastic surgeons will try to prey on young people's self-esteem issues and bring up new issues in order to get more money. So while plastic surgery existing is actually a good thing to help with reconstructive surgeries and people who have deformities due to whatever injury or congenital its really dangerous for it to be advertised to teenagers who are still growing!!

[@ssssshley]

I used to hate my noise and I’ve always wanted to get my nose done for aesthetic purposes. Now that I’m older friends and family asks me if I got my nose done. nope I got older and lost some fat from my face. Point is these girls are getting procedures done at a very young age. Our face change as we get older. Now I’m not against Plastic surgery, I just think that it is something that should be done after thorough research.

[@faerie2953]

When I first got on the internet i saw all these people with perfect noses and it caused me to be insecure about my very Lithuanian nose. I later realized most of those people had gotten plastic surgery, didn’t make me feel any better though just made me feel like my nose was even more ugly

[@itsybitsy8100]

"I have my mother's lips and my father's nose - on my face they are still together"

[@zsuzsi8336]

Your commentary videos help my low self-esteem become better. You literally make my life easier. I'm so grateful for you. Thank you

[@astridmaggie294]

I'm going to go through surgery in two weeks that is considered plastic surgery since. It's my nose, but i'm getting it done purely because I have a dialated septum and can't breathe lol. A lot of people tell me not to do it because they don't understand that I really need it. I'm happy how you made this video and didn't judge people😁

[@SoScarlettItWasMaroon]

Zoe you should do some videos on fashion, your style is everything

[@yay5112]

Another thing that is worrying is that what is considered beautiful can often change with trends. So many fashion trends also involve physical features, and if you are altering your body with plastic surgery it may fit into trends now but in however many years may not be the trendy ideal of beauty it once was.

[@pamelapamper]

The worst is that ps is portrayed in an almost positive only way, I used to prowl in the realself forums and most of these procedures have a very high complication rate. For rhinoplasty it seems that the ones where the person had an extremely hooked nose it can work out good but for ppl who want their tip to be changed they barely ever are happy with their results and also the complications can't happen down the line etc so u have to always keep in mind u need to have savings in case u need some revision surgery.

[@blank_line]

This is why I don't have tiktok and only open Instagram once a week or so. I don't see any of this, so I am pretty happy with my life

[@Marrianno]

The only plastic surgery I need is for medical purpose. My nose was broken and now it's not only assimtecric, but also I now have complications with breathing(and it can get worse with age). My point is please, please dont do plastic surgery on yourself unless it's absolutely nessesary

[@dearcoral6311]

Nose job is super trendy in Iran my classmate at 17 would do it😐it's not even about flex like if you have big nose you " must"do it.people gonna ask you when you gonna have nose job if you have bump😊🤭😑

[@aquamarein]

I take healthy body everyday instead of being drop dead gorgeous by surgery. Every surgery has its own health risks and people who never get really, really sick think that there is nothing to it and that they can take any risks for beauty. They don't know to the extent of pain that they can suffer because of it and think that they can handle everything.

[@Constantin9va]

If you have a small face, I’d really think long and hard about all the pain you will be in, as it is MUCH more difficult to operate on a small face. You WILL be in a world of pain. I am so grateful for my surgery, but please be prepared! And have a solid pain management plan worked out with your doctor!💖

[@maxine6154]

though i don't think plastic surgery is a bad thing, i feel it's being pushed on people by societal standards and making people feel horrible about flaws at such a young age and feel the need to do that. there was some study about how the brain is not fully developed until 26 and usually people who planned on doing plastic surgery completely switched up and rationalized their decision. plastic surgery should be a personal choice, not something pushed onto you for not being as attractive as the media pushes

[@meganapollonio4666]

OMG GIRL- YOU ARE SO PRETTY YOU COULD TOTALLY BECOME LIKE A MODEL OR SMTH!!

[@sinteh7613]

It's been 15 days since i had a nose job and i actually am satisfied with it. I don't think i got prettier or uglier or anything, I was fine before and i still am but with a better feeling about myself :). what bothers me is people coming to me and asking me if they need a nose job or not, dude, YOU decide that not me or anyone else.

[@rilakkuma217]

love your commentaries so much zoe!! i got a septo/rhino in 2019 bc i had broken my nose as a kid and it healed with a hump/crooked. I wanted to be able to breathe and fix my deviated septum, but also to look like my mom, no one in my family has a hump / crooked nose bc mine was broken and healed with a malunion. I don't regret it, but my nose also healed slanted so its still not a "perfect" nose but i love it and it used to be a major insecurity. I support anyone to make their bodies look how they choose, but i advocate those curious to choose safe & reliable surgeons and to know the risks!

[@frozen7550]

A good thing to keep in mind is. There is no shame in getting surgery if it would make you happy & confident in the long run. Keep in mind that *surgery is surgery* . No matter what the purpose is. You're risking something that will be with you permanently whether the result is bad or good.

[@Ysa5657]

I don’t mind other people doing plastic surgery if they have the money the more power to them, i myself do not wish to do so very much like i do not wish to do any other surgery if i don’t have a medical need, but each to their own

[@sofairy_]

back when i was a kid i used to have a pixie nose, really cute. but then i got a lot of airway diseases throughout my entire chilhood so my adenoids grew bigger and that deformed my nose bone. i got so insecure abt it, i still overthink about getting a rhinoplasty but at the same time idk, i feel like i should respect my body the way it is. i just find it really unfair how i have to deal with the consequences of something i never asked for.

[@corkaczarownicy]

I start to really love thin lips, because they are so natural. With some nice lipstick they are gorgeous.

[@viennejolie4893]

What’s also problematic is yes when people lie about not having work done it is extremely toxic but also when they are open about it..it still changes the beauty standard to something unattainable without getting surgery to change yourself. Like the means we go to to be attractive are already enormous but literally changing your bone structure to be more attractive?

[@choux8372]

I definitely intend on getting plastic surgery in the future to remove my excess skin from weight loss. I would like my arms to not make sound when I jump or even just wave hi excitedly.

[@brittniep9219]

We also cannot ignore the fact that tons of plastic surgeries are performed to remove cultural and individual features, and to make one look more conventionally White or to fit a temporary beauty trend. This is most certainly alarming to me. I also do not love the homogenization of humanity when our beauty and survival is in our genetic differences and unique appearances but that is certainly just my opinion.

[@youdontownme08]

We just have to make it a trend to have a big nose, thin lips, hooded eyes and so on.... It's just sad that people start looking the same and lose their individual features that make them special.

[@mercitan880]

she’s a voice this generation needs 👏🏻👏🏻

[@Karentulla]

I just learned this about botox from my boyfriend, who is a dentist specialising in TMD/ CMD: Botox changes the muscle in a process called ‚fibrosis‘, even after a single shot of it. After multiple botox treatments and aging it can render the muscle less functional or useless, especially smaller muscles like the mimic muscles. He advised against getting botox in the masseters (only in extreme cases of TMD), because it is an important chewing muscle. I would not want to hinder my ability to eat and talk, especially when I get old! Hope this is useful info for someone else as well ☺️

[@jojon4272]

"It's not symmetrical or perfect / But it's beautiful and it's mine / What else can I do?" Though my peers in their 20s are too late to have this golden line seared into our collective memory, hopefully the Alpha generation can connect with it.

[@evielovesyou]

I forgot where I heard this but it went something like this: "I wish someone could just look at their imperfections that they hate and change their mind and love them."