Johnny, could you tell us non EV driving folk real world, what that cost to do the whole trip please? Ie charging at home to back to home empty… ta 👍
@TheLateBrakeShow2 жыл бұрын
Home charging tends to be cheapest, depending on your elec tariff. Mine probably filled this for less than £5. Rapid charging on the hop like this usually ends up costing between 35-50p per KWh. That rose sharply in the last 9 months, annoyingly. So ideally you want to slow charge at a depot or home, and task vans like this on journeys that won't need a charge, or can be charged during a manditry lunch break at depot or with rapid charge provider whom the company has a deal with.
@simonstokes65612 жыл бұрын
@@TheLateBrakeShow Instavolt now 57p a kw😬
@craighennell57002 жыл бұрын
@@TheLateBrakeShow yes but! To a complete novice, non EV driver like me… How much would that round trip have cost? I’m interested it working out. The difference between EV cost compared with derv 👍
@fbeale35372 жыл бұрын
It's not just the price of the charge to consider, if your working the down time while the van charges is costing you money.
@timrawlings15112 жыл бұрын
@@fbeale3537 As Johnny said in the video that totally depend on what you use your van for for the minority of trips. I us my Nissen env200 as a handyman van and charge it at home over night or from solar at the weekend. I there for have less down time charging it then I had with my old van and going to fill it up at a petrol pump. If you are doing longer trips a lot that need a rapid charge then yes there will be down time or at lest time you can use to do paper work that would need to be done anyway as it charges.
@yt_Ajay_2 жыл бұрын
I love how reviews on this channel tend to feel like documentaries. It always feels like I'm learning something.
@RAFchurchlawford44692 жыл бұрын
Yes, learning how NOT to drive. Frequently taking your eyes of the road is not clever, nor is driving one handed. Apart from that he's great.
@wowmanhaha2 жыл бұрын
@@RAFchurchlawford4469 Are you part of Bomber Command?
@markvbickley2 жыл бұрын
Surely you mean like an 'advertisement'!
@izzieb2 жыл бұрын
How the hell will we draw crude things on white vans if they no longer have diesel soot on the back of them?!
@TheLateBrakeShow2 жыл бұрын
True fact. 'I wish my husband woz this dirty' etc.
@matthewmason89822 жыл бұрын
Marker pen? “I wish my Mrs was this quiet”
@MrOvershoot2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLateBrakeShow Most vans don't get sooty its just road grime, so we can still make comments that Dan the driver has a misses that's dirtier than his van
@dashcam24172 жыл бұрын
When is the last time you saw diesel soot on a modern , regular serviced euro 6 van .... Answer is never.
@martinlewis9672 жыл бұрын
@@matthewmason8982 I assume that your missis didn’t see that😂
@emil.soderholm2 жыл бұрын
I worked for a car parts shop as a delivery driver for 2 months this summer and I would have loved this e-Transit instead of the slow and loud diesel Transit I drove. Good job Ford!
@martinnilsson52952 жыл бұрын
Hope u wont need go to far Emil. Motorväg funkar ej
@SunnyJim932 жыл бұрын
The "fuel card" idea and billing work for your home charging are genius. This is why Ford just get commercials don't they.
@sahhull2 жыл бұрын
I like cash... hate cards and electronic payments
@darmou2 жыл бұрын
@@sahhull But then you have to go back to the boss with all your receipts, er no thanks.
@James-semaJ2 жыл бұрын
There's nobody else I'd watch on KZbin chatting while driving a van down a road. Quality as always Jonny!
@Jin-Ro2 жыл бұрын
@george ion It's an advert, not a review.
@georgimihalkov47812 жыл бұрын
Using the air conditioner...the sacrifices he makes for his job are immense.
@MrOvershoot2 жыл бұрын
Yes he didn't bite when I asked 😉
@Miata8222 жыл бұрын
Rather than going for the sexiest/fastest/most efficient/most costly sound system/ugliest grille/4-wheel-steering/proprietary charging/number of seat massage/0-60/Nurburg laps, Ford focuses on practical, economical, solutions to people's transportation needs, just like they have done for over 100 years.
@bubba8422 жыл бұрын
I'm glad they do in Europe, because they don't In North America.
@tonyshipton88962 жыл бұрын
With a tiny range
@njk99892 жыл бұрын
What? Are you saying the massaging seats in the new Mercedes EV is over the top? More practical than picking up a new friend for a hand massage with a happy ending then being tossed in the pokey ROTFL
@rampanttwattery48442 жыл бұрын
Ford appear to have nailed this. Great engineering and lots of thought about real world usability. Could be a game changer.
@ludwigkranzlein98932 жыл бұрын
Only shortcoming in my opinion are the towing capabilities.
@carholic-sz3qv2 жыл бұрын
@@ludwigkranzlein9893 it’s definitely not made for towing
@PiOfficial2 жыл бұрын
@@ludwigkranzlein9893 See plenty of big vans without tow bars anyway. We tow a lot in groundworks and in landscaping but delivery drivers/kitchen fitters/flooring/locksmiths/ may never need to tow anything’s
@garyhalkon87492 жыл бұрын
Once again Jonny hits the nail on the head. I'm all for an EV society. Of course there will always be pros and cons towards them, such as expensive to buy and the range isn't as good as it's ICE equivalent but they would slot into a daily routine for companies such as Royal Mail and Euro Car Parts, small route driving and back to the depot. Would like to see more EV commercial reviews along with the ever popular barn finds! Top job as always!
@garyhalkon87492 жыл бұрын
@@Taz1451 I do agree partly with retrofitting, however would it benefit the remaining life expectancy of the vehicle it has been fitted to or would it be false economy? Good and bad points to everything, but not everyone would want to retrofit, even to an relatively young vehicle.
@georgedaville46622 жыл бұрын
For a high percentage of daily deliveries, EV is the answer. Great review Jonny, you showcased this vehicle perfectly. Glad you picked up on the touchscreen angle, I noticed it from the off. I personally find touchscreens very distracting! I think Ford have a winner here, just a pity it is not made in Southampton! At least Stellantis are investing in the UK for EV manufacturing. 👍😎
@domefford8642 жыл бұрын
After the 3 year lease then what? Be interesting to see how Amazon get rid of their ev fleet. Would you take on a ev van with 80k on the clock with no warrant?
@TimInertiatic2 жыл бұрын
@@domefford864 people do it every day with ICE vehicles which have far.more that can go wrong. Don't see the issue...
@evilmario60612 жыл бұрын
@@domefford864 I'll take 10 please
@fabvee2 жыл бұрын
I always learn more from a JS vehicle review - thorough, professional, informative. Keep up the good work Jonny.
@jwvandegronden2 жыл бұрын
Mate, you're amazing. Curious, investigative, and you automatically extend your visit to the salvage yard and have readily available information that makes your shows that much more engaging and entertaining! Other than the exceptional EV, I think that was on of the highlights of this video! (9:28) Please do more of those, I think it illustrates perfectly what it means to use a certain vehicle. doesn't have to be limited to vans, although they beg for it of course. Help someone move with a car, collect a dish washer, etc. Plenty of silly every day examples that suddenly become jewels of television (if YOU do it of course ;-) Absolutely riveting episode. Well done man!
@malcolmlane-ley20442 жыл бұрын
Those 2 guys in the passenger seat that always seem to have their hoodies up asleep will be most impressed with the serene transformation
@thecremeegg2 жыл бұрын
Good to see it's rusting underneath already!
@Cesar-pq2ck5 ай бұрын
I’m in the U.S. I recently purchased the 2023 E Transit for my small business and so far it’s awesome. The range could be better, I get 120 miles per full battery charge but I drive 80 miles per day at the most. We ordered the Ford home charger and are about to have it installed. This is new technology for me and I had many questions doubts but now I’m sure it’s gonna be a positive for our finances. And we were able to get it for $49,000 so it was a no brainer.
@MrEggyman992 жыл бұрын
My favourite feature of this entire van is the standard fuel gauge, and I really hope they use this on ALL of their future electric vehicles. This alone would remove almost all range anxiety due to it's familiarity.
@RLTtizME2 жыл бұрын
The gauge has a little chunk of coal that moves across the dial.
@jasonkillsformomy2 жыл бұрын
If the look of the gauge is the reason for your anxiety then it's not real, but placebo.
@Robert-cu9bm2 жыл бұрын
Only because of the chip shortage.
@Robert-cu9bm2 жыл бұрын
@G T Yeah, but when you get a EV you also get a bad bladder causing you to need to go to the toilet every 2hrs.
@watcher246012 жыл бұрын
@G T ICE is great for the rich folk that can afford to run them. For everyone else, affordable practical transport is more important.
@willum2232 жыл бұрын
As someone who often clocks up 250 motorway miles a day in a Transit Custom, this is an interesting one. It’ll make a lot more sense when cheap chain hotels offer charging though.
@Brian-om2hh2 жыл бұрын
It'll come. It has to.....
@DEADB33F2 жыл бұрын
Are you doing so fully loaded? If not then in the future I'm guessing you'll be able to sacrifice some cargo capacity for an extended range battery. ...Something like that might be useful for those whose vans carry lower density loads but over longer distances.
@logicalChimp2 жыл бұрын
@@DEADB33F Unless you're talking fitting a secondary battery or similar, the reduced weight won't significantly impact range once up to speed on the motorway (mass is a killer in stop-start traffic because it takes more energy to get it moving... but once it's up to speed it take very little effort to maintain that speed)
@alabar97952 жыл бұрын
If by interesting u mean adding 2 3 hrs to your day any paying insane amounts of money for fast charging
@flyingpanhandle2 жыл бұрын
@@alabar9795 The cost of fast charging for that battery pack is still cheaper than a tank full of diesel.
@DEADB33F2 жыл бұрын
Hope they release a dual motor 4x4 verison. Would make a great adventure van / camper conversion.
@davejenvey35982 жыл бұрын
You can't carry electric with you. But Jerrycan.
@leedstown2 жыл бұрын
It would have a range of 10 miles
@shanestewart49052 жыл бұрын
Hmm, a visit a charger three times a day adventure van.
@jamesellsworth96732 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. Camper conversion replaces cargo load. 4x4 has been my go-to drive train for decades of wet, snowy road trips, as well as for added traction on curves.
@DEADB33F2 жыл бұрын
@@leedstown Why? The second motor would be disengaged most of the time. I mean yeah, it'd be eating into your load capacity a bit, but wouldn't be using any leccy unless you engaged it for off-road use.
@bobeden50272 жыл бұрын
In 1970 our drummer had a Transit with double rear wheels and 6 aircraft seats and we used it to get to gigs, and cart all our gear. Happy days on the road!
@IsadoreWoW2 жыл бұрын
Our company has just made the jump to order 5 E-transits to do central London chilled food drops, our fleet is of close to 100 vans almost nationwide so only a small portion but I'm sure testing will be done to expand. A big change in form as we've historically had Iveco Dailys. Really interested to see how they get on. I feel like the blue on the grille is like that plastic film you get covering new chrome and needs to be removed :D
@Richard482 Жыл бұрын
How's your company getting on with the new vans?
@gyoergypecsi2 жыл бұрын
I just realized something: the best vehicle reviews all made by British KZbinrs! 👍👍👍 I enjoyed, thanks! Greetings from 🇨🇦
@TheLateBrakeShow2 жыл бұрын
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@stuartjohnston10862 жыл бұрын
Good effort from Ford. I'll admit I was skeptical but Ford has got a good combination of range, performance, capacity and price.
@onebenji2 жыл бұрын
Never thought I'd enjoy a review of a van but this was fantastic!
@CiBi19682 жыл бұрын
Should have put it straight up against the bulkhead via the side door .😟 Then if you slam the brakes on in an Emergency it's not going to slide up the bed and slam into that thin steel sheet of a partition behind you . Bad mistake 😔
@robertallen34412 жыл бұрын
True story, my late Dad collected a new engine for a tractor in a virtually brand new mk 1 Transit in the 60's. No side door those days, so it had to sit between the wheelarches. No tie down lugs, so was roped to the supports on each side. Halfway home he had to do an emergency stop, van stopped, engine didnt. Van sides were like a hour glass. Sides got pushed out, but the van never looked right again.
@domefford8642 жыл бұрын
Also handles better with the weight in front of the rear axle. The van and side door is designed to take a pallet. As a tradesmen/van driver for 30 years, I wouldn’t buy this van if it was half the price.
@888johnmac2 жыл бұрын
lol , glad i'm not the only person who thought this
@GregsMowing2 жыл бұрын
If it was behind the bulkhead and he accelerated hard it could go flying to the back doors and mysteriously fall out if doors not shut right. Bulkheads are strong now, just needs people to now how to use a ratchet strap.
@CiBi19682 жыл бұрын
@@GregsMowing You load a Van from the front to the rear . When you see an Curtain side Artic drop any load from the front they always move the load to the front again. I have lost track of how many times in 30yrs of driving a Forklift that I have had to re-arrange a load for a driver to make it safe.
@stuartgroome80342 жыл бұрын
I work for Royal Mail and the depot I work in has recently switched to a 95% electric fleet. A combination of Peugeot Experts and Mercedes. The Experts are excellent with a range of 140 miles and very nice to drive. The Mercedes only have a range of 80 miles and seem to suffer from excessive tyre wear.
@glynjones81872 жыл бұрын
I like the fact it will bill the company for charging at home, if you have a company van and need to cherge at home at least you will get itt back and it will be tax free and relate to you're actual charging cost.
@craiglester62242 жыл бұрын
I went for a test drive of the 180ps today. The torque was instant, from the lights it just crazy how quick it got up to speed! Top speed is maxed at 81mph, that is fine tbh! What else, Cameras were great, Aircon was great too. The screen was fine, doesn't need to be angled as you would look at it all the time, Can easily use all the buttons from the drives seat, Screen large and bright! It handles well but see when a load is in! The braking was brilliant, didn't need to use the brake a lot, only to stop at lights! What I didn't like. The huge step into the back. I am a landscaper and use ramps etc but I was stocked on the step up to the loading area! ( only 5cm higher than a diesel one) But maybe I could get used to it! I do around 100 miles a day so its ideal for me! So I am looking forward to seeing how much it going to cost!
@sahhull2 жыл бұрын
Wait n see the range fall once youve put all your landscaping tools in the back. That added weight is going to kill the range.
@craiglester41532 жыл бұрын
So I got price for it. Got a few extras, camera, power pack and the camera. £10k down followed by 58 x £856 with a end balloon of £13104. Over £73k in total!! Very expensive for what it is tbh
@Steve-nu8xt2 жыл бұрын
Real world test - bit of fly tipping, reverse into a NatWest, load 2 tons of loose gravel in the back..
@MattyEngland2 жыл бұрын
... Once fully charged, steal the charging cable for the copper content
@barrybrennan10452 жыл бұрын
My wife and I always look forward and enjoy your videos (you guys are awesome). Riley, please do not wear your wedding band while operating heavy machinery. Your finger may catch on something (which happened to me once but I was lucky) or get squeezed between heavy objects... No one outranks General Safety...
@TimInertiatic2 жыл бұрын
That rear axle and suspension setup looks perfect for future EV conversions!
@timburton10802 жыл бұрын
Yeah and those battery packs!
@dutch30002 жыл бұрын
My first video of "The late brake Show" - worth every minute. Great Job. Greetings from Germany.
@tomhicks16082 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video. Euro car parts on the Isle of Wight have trialed a few different electric vans (Nissan env200, Renault Kangoo E, vauxhall vivaro E and the maxis E deliver 3) and we found them to be ideally suited to the needs.
@evilmario60612 жыл бұрын
Not surprising, on the island! Great to hear, though
@Isthatyoudermot2 жыл бұрын
I miss Yorkies. Great video. Love the grey clouds at the end, typical summer weather 🤣
@FirstDan20002 жыл бұрын
Great video. I was expecting the van to have similar power sockets to the E150 that's just been released. These would be a big plus point for trades.
@dancarter4822 жыл бұрын
Who'd have thunk Dagenham dustbins would go back to good old rear wheel drive BUT on INDEPENDENT COILS. WICKED, I LOVE it!
@matzo22172 жыл бұрын
I’m not in the market for a van but I had to watch because a) Jonny b) I needed to know what he was transporting c) no-one else does videos of this quality
@Poetjanstie2 жыл бұрын
Owned several Ford ICE passenger vehicles down the years, and fell out with them (along with most of the majors, except NIssan, Tesla, Kia and Hyundai) because of a suicidal lack of commitment to fully electric. I now salute Ford for their obviously serious commitment to the crucial commercial sector of vans, perhaps as well as the MachE. The German majors have really not had the insight to the importance of fuel efficiency and are in danger of losing the race. But well done Ford. As an after comment, after starting 4 years ago, I confess now to being a Tesla owner because I think engineering design and efficiency are more important than maintaining the brand image and looks, although I have to say Tesla’s design was always cracking (particularly the Model S, which I owned for a year before the Model Y arrived a couple of months ago, swapped for practical reasons - capacious storage room for two large dogs and facing the reality that we didn’t need to get to 60 mph in 4 secs. Even 5 secs with the Y is more than we need (fun but not necessary 😊).
@thefrenchruraldream80692 жыл бұрын
We all have different opinions on EVs and this why I love Jonny’s channel he gives a down to earth review that makes sense in the real world use. He also seems to have an unbiased opinion as he his also a fan of ICEs, unlike channels which just deals with ev propaganda. Keep up the great work 👍🏻😊
@nicholaslopez79182 жыл бұрын
0:00-0:06 the perfect phone ringtone for the modern busy workinh world
@matthewmason89822 жыл бұрын
I wonder how quickly Sabine could’ve got this transit around the Nordschleife. RIP
@Rhyd2 жыл бұрын
@Richard Harrold weight is all down low though, so could see faster cornering. Bet she would have loved the new ev van
@Rhyd2 жыл бұрын
@Richard Harrold very true there are plenty of factors. The lack of needing to change gears etc. I bet it’ll still be a right laugh around a track though 😅
@MattyEngland2 жыл бұрын
Half a lap in 12 mins, then an hour on fast charge
@Rhyd2 жыл бұрын
@Richard Harrold yep, I haven’t been either. I don’t really agree with current personal electric vehicles. I believe they should be spending more on recycling old cars into electric then developing more waste. However there are some amazing environmental benefits to commercial vehicles being electric.
@MattyEngland2 жыл бұрын
@Richard Harrold I was obviously joking to anyone with an IQ above 50 👍
@sholehan2 жыл бұрын
Phil from Dream automotive is a great guy - I had never heard of Dream (not being a Honda owner) but I chatted for ages to him at Goodwood about all sorts - top bloke.
@BillyCabrio19852 жыл бұрын
Another great video as always JS! Just don’t get caught going over 60 mph in your van, you never know who’s watching 👀🚨🚓😂😂
@PiOfficial2 жыл бұрын
You can go 70 on the motorway mate
@martingill69962 жыл бұрын
I was dubious with load carrying trade but now driving the Peugeot E Expert for work and have been really impressed, I do 180-200 miles , local driving is extremely efficient. Not necessarily ideal if you do high mileage on motorways daily , but it works well for me.
@jamest51492 жыл бұрын
A 25%+ bigger battery / range and a 22kw charger would really open this type of van up to more.
@paulellis60222 жыл бұрын
One of the best postings yet Johnny
@TheLateBrakeShow2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Paul.
@Dan23_72 жыл бұрын
Reef Tee 👍🏼👍🏼 This van is definitely a game changer for the courier industry. When I was a courier before my current job the 18 plate tranny I had (the same wheelbase and height as this one) I was filling up 3 times a week and my round averaged 100 miles a day, 56 of them getting to and from my delivery area. Now I do long distance in a sprinter Luton, until a manufacturer can bring out an EV Luton capable of 400 miles a day we’ll still be using Diesel engines.
@darrenlomax12832 жыл бұрын
I do 100 miles a day in my 2.2 econetic 3.5t and im getting 700 miles per fill up. I did get 400 until i learned how to drive it economically. My old 2.0l used to get me to london and back on 2/3rds of a tank. The same journey uses a whole tank in my mk7. My mk7 is 10 years newer than my mk6 was. So how has this been allowed, the emissions regs are a fraud. My old car put out 221gkm and my 16 year newer car puts out 174gkm yet im getting the same mpg on the same roads. Its all lies and im getring really tired of it. We're being played for a much bigger reason than I can think of.
@Dan23_72 жыл бұрын
@@darrenlomax1283 Road tax is a fraud, you just have to look at the state of them. I drive a sprinter Luton 316 twin turbo, I get 350-400 miles per tank but it depends on how much motorway compared to urban and also how loaded we are. I don’t pay for the fuel though thank Fook When I started here last April a full tank from 50 mile reserve cost about £90 Now it’s £125-30
@cameradoctor2052 жыл бұрын
Johnny, love it ! The difference between a 'TV' review and YT ... I don't think TV would ever say ' we are stopping for a quick charge as the cameraman needs a Poo" :) ;)
@matthewseymour89722 жыл бұрын
That £9k difference is interesting. At current rapid charge and fuel prices, for the frugal driver I reckon it would take more than 3 years to recoup, but many van drivers are not frugal and that really hurts the diesel mpg. Plus charging overnight at cheaper rates, a lot of variables but ultimately it's going to be cheaper.
@Beechcliffe2 жыл бұрын
I want an electric van to convert to a camper badly. Being from the UK, the range on the Ford is more than adequate, just need the price to come down, or a lottery win. Nice easy going review this one.
@pdsnpsnldlqnop33302 жыл бұрын
Took me a while to realise, but yes this is what we have been waiting for! So much better than the VW Buzz when it comes to space. I know people like to park in car parks so a high top is not always desired, but I think this one is great. Plus I have a folding bike that I enjoy riding. It would be good to get one of these, to make it look like a normal Transit (get rid of the blue) and add some stealth signage. I am always wondering what is best for stealth camping. My sister reckons that fake stickers for a bee keeping nature charity is best, 'bees in transit' means you won't have people that keen to open the van. 'DOG UNIT' is also quite good, notionally for a security company.
@darwenrover89102 жыл бұрын
As well as steelies and a hi-vis vest, a copy of The Daily Star sitting on the dash against the windscreen would top it off 😂😂
@TheLateBrakeShow2 жыл бұрын
It was in the above-cab cubby
@m4rkscott2 жыл бұрын
Most delivery drivers would do their nut stopping twice a day for 45 minute top ups, they get paid mainly on parcels delivered and collected which is why they have always got their foot down and in a rush. I may have missed it but didn't hear you mention it's unladen and fully laden weights and what the fully laden range would be as i'm pretty sure from a sales prospective the numbers quoted will be best case scenario
@mick1237892 жыл бұрын
4:49 already starting to rust, so it’s a proper transit then!
@KiwiShoot2 жыл бұрын
Great, honest review. For some, this is a cheaper solution. Esp with the ability to fill up overnight and start each day with a full tank.
@kinross242 жыл бұрын
Great vid on the eTransit and in depth. One thing i noticed Ford have missed and I’m sure if the great Sandy Munro had it up on a ramp as you showed on the rear suspension shot, they have lots of space under the rear floor area, behind the drive/suspension unit and rear valance to have a sunken rear underbody storage area as in Tesla MS etc? Small hatch in the rear floor area. Also, I noticed in the American version there’s two 230v a/c outlets in the rear. Will they add these to the UK vn as well as Vehicle to Load/Grid option? Having this electric power options to power electric tools, charge hand power tools etc etc would be a great advantage v other brands.
@TheLDunn12 жыл бұрын
Yes, its called Pro Power Onboard, it is located inside the cargo bay on the right hand side between wheel arch intrusion & the rear cargo door 2.3kw output, two UK plug sockets
@aydenwalls75422 жыл бұрын
Best car review channel on KZbin
@Thesobercarper2 жыл бұрын
Top drawer review as usual, thank you johnny
@nomoreheroes932 жыл бұрын
Worth bearing in mind that whilst the pack size is fixed, any improvements on the cell side in terms of energy density will increase the pack's range like we saw with the LEAF, etc.
@paultravers37092 жыл бұрын
I half expected Richard to be involved with the intro!
@everydaybiker2 жыл бұрын
Great review, thanks Johnny. Anyone else a little disturbed about the loading of that type r motor? Propper hanging off the back axle there.
@iansteward91932 жыл бұрын
I wish someone would do a real world range test with a full load.
@gasdive2 жыл бұрын
The load makes almost no difference as long as you don't put stuff outside the van like ladders on the roof. The coefficient of rolling resistance is nothing compared to the aero drag on something like this. Doubling the all up weight would probably only cut the range by 5% or so. Having the windows open would make more difference.
@stevemcmaster1002 жыл бұрын
Perfect for a long wheelbase camper conversion. Nice job Jonny as usual...
@mclouj2 жыл бұрын
Was just thinking about this. Wonder how hard it would be to integrate of all the camper electrics (Stove, fridge, adding solar panels etc) with the main battery systems?
@darwenrover89102 жыл бұрын
After this and the Mustang Mach-E, Ford need to start making an electric Fiesta.
@dashcam24172 жыл бұрын
Ford have cancelled all orders for fiesta ass of mid June ... Next fiesta size car will be a VW MASH UP .
@will4may1752 жыл бұрын
They pandered to the rich folk and business's first, which tbh is par the course for auto makers, I also think they needed to sell off the engines they'd built so that's probably why they brought a crappy hybrid Fiesta first.
@BigManMotors2 жыл бұрын
Electric Puma is on the horizon
@dashcam24172 жыл бұрын
@@BigManMotors the average road doesn't need bigger and heavier cars .. I would love to see KEI cars introduced with a modern twist . In towns and cities.
@will4may1752 жыл бұрын
@Michael Headley Sounds like Peugeot's have gotten better then, after a car crash in the early 2008 I was given a 208 courtesy car, it was terrible, and then drove Peugeot vans for Royal Mail and they're no better so stayed away from Peugeot.
@quicknickdriver85102 жыл бұрын
Electric transit makes lots of sense. Especially in built up heavy traffic areas. Most of that noise in the last scene was tyres, ev’s still make that noise, if not more so. Good vid Jonny
@Brian-om2hh2 жыл бұрын
Both DPD and Amazon are using electric vans to deliver in my local town. They're based 20 to 30 miles away, and only occasionally need to charge during their delivery rounds. They seem to have made an agreement with a local Supermarket to charge if/when necessary.....
@Smoovindecat2 жыл бұрын
Seems great! The screen should definitely lean towards the driver a bit. And I really don’t think touch screens should replace all the buttons in a car or van. Some things like heat or volume are so much easier to just turn up or down without looking. Are electric vehicles eco friendly after the mining? I’m sure someone’s compared the ecological damage to diesel and electric.
@luc_libv_verhaegen2 жыл бұрын
More so than pumping up vast amounts of dinosaur juice, then boiling that, taking one fraction of the result, driving this around to bring to special distribution centers, then pumping that into the final tank, and then burning it in a complicated way to only use 20% of the energy the final product contained. Did you know that the US has more than 936000 active oil and gas wells? That's just the US. Add several million of wells that were shut down and often abandoned in the last 120 years. Did you know that a third of all goods being transported by ship is oil, gas and derivates? Compared to the massive scale and devastation that the fossil fuel industry produces, mining for lithium is a total non-issue. And guess what, if a lithium based battery truly cannot be used anymore, it can always be recycled. It did not turn into vapour during its life.
@6ettinold2 жыл бұрын
The amount of drivers I see leaning down the middle of their cars whilst driving astounds me. C class drivers seem to do this in abundance. Not sure if they are all poorly sighted or the menus on the Mercedes infotainment screen are a pig. We choose our car for various reasons, physical buttons was one.
@patreekotime45782 жыл бұрын
One reason to run EVERYTHING on the touchscreen is that it could potentially all be reset remotely by the fleet software whenever there is a new driver. Or potentially driver's settings could follow them. It does also introduce the potential for monitoring those settings... with all of the positives and negatives that go along with that. There are plenty of studies out looking at impact of mining of battery materials. Although I do find it funny that we never hear anyone asking what are the impacts of speculating, drilling, refining and transporting oil and gas whenever a new ICE vehicle hits the market. Although one thing we can say for certain: EVERY metal inside of a battery pack can be reclaimed in recycling and reused, whereas not a single drop of diesel fuel can ever be reconstituted from tailpile emmissions and reused as fuel.
@philspencelayh54642 жыл бұрын
Years ago I had a Vauxhall viva (when they were new) everything you needed to do was proper switches and after a short time you could do anything without taking your eyes off the road. I dont think a touch screen should control anything that is needed when the vehicle is moving.
@peterlarkin7622 жыл бұрын
@@patreekotime4578 Lithium is so costly to reclaim and make usable that nobody does it yet, it's cheaper to open a new mine in the Congo. Also every watt of power used to charge the battery can't be reclaimed either just like diesel.
@Jon.O2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding real world review. 10/10 👍🏻
@Jack-cu7rl2 жыл бұрын
@4:51 do I see rust on a brand new van?
@Novur2 жыл бұрын
I expect the higher regen being the 🇱 button is due to how auto transmissions have worked forever; put a car in Low gear, and you get more engine braking (i.e. car slows down more aggressively when you lift off), which is especially useful for descending long tall mountain roads without fading your brakes out. Having the same function be controlled in the same way makes sense for people who are only just transitioning from gas cars.
@Rob_Gater2 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed this has come from Ford. The Charging card is great idea. I wonder if we will ever see it in Australia, or maybe they'll just keep dumping diesel rubbish our way.
@matpat26362 жыл бұрын
It really is quite clever. It can be set up so the delivery driver jumps out of the cab with the keys in his or her pocket, the windows close and the doors lock. The side sliding doors have foot activation for when your hands are full (although this has never been hugely reliable in the past, maybe it’s better now). And then when you walk back and open the front doors, the windows wind back down to their previous level and off you drive. No ignition. No sitting there idling. Ford have really thought about how these things are actually used
@thesalopgardener2 жыл бұрын
Again an excellent review. Jonny has a fantastic pace of delivery, and an easy to listen to style.
@Quadlaners2 жыл бұрын
The hardest test would be same journey in the winter ,lights heater,wipes etc see what mileage you get then
@TheLateBrakeShow2 жыл бұрын
Agree, those are the worst conditions for an EV (above 60mph especially)
@FFVoyager2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLateBrakeShow I'd expect like every other EV it'll do about 20% less than it will in the summer!
@domefford8642 жыл бұрын
Can’t see tradesmen ever going electric, I’m a floor layer bet all my tools and crap weigh more than that Honda engine. Add 600kg of carpets probably won’t get out of town 🤣
@Quadlaners2 жыл бұрын
@@domefford864 no same with me full van roof rack and ladders as well, plus longer journeys i could not br arsed to keep stopping but I do think they have their place just not for me
@gasdive2 жыл бұрын
@@domefford864 as long as you keep it all inside the van you shouldn't notice any difference in range. If you put stuff on the roof it will make a huge difference.
@jasongammon27672 жыл бұрын
I’ve been weighing up the options with regards replacing my 2018 Renault trafic 1.6 diesel. I’ve looked at the transit phev but at £40+ and 40ish mpg (I’ve seen evidence by looking at dashboard photos of ones for sale) it’s hard to make a business case to spend that sort of corn on a van when I’m getting 34mpg from my trafic that cost me £16k new in 2018. It’s going to be a case of waiting for the prices to reduce before I commit to buying an Ev van. Having recently spoken to my Renault dealer a PHEV Trafic is in the pipeline but an EV version isn’t coming any time soon! The range of the e-transit is perfectly adequate for my needs (and all that) so I’m definitely onboard. Great film as always Jonnie 👍🏼🏆
@rushja2 жыл бұрын
Great vid as always! electric vans make total sense now that a decent pack can be fitted to them. The fleet savings are going to be big for a lot of the bigger companies. I already see electric company vans on the roads and I can't wait for them to be the majority of vans
@RLTtizME2 жыл бұрын
Yeah...UPS deliveries within a 3 miles radius of their distribution center. Marvelous.
@timscott30272 жыл бұрын
Yeah Amazon have ev vans round my city
@sahhull2 жыл бұрын
@@timscott3027 Yeah. Im constantly getting apologised to for late deliveries from the Amazon driver. Those electric vans dont have the range when carrying weight and he's often left waiting for recovery with packages in the back.
@Deano0842 жыл бұрын
I quite like your reviews! You do an excellent job and make it real for people. Well done!
@markwalton86442 жыл бұрын
Good Review, makes more sense than EV classic cars, which occasionally come out the garage. One thing I would say, it really should have a Hydrogen fuel cell option to make it truly usable!!
@TimInertiatic2 жыл бұрын
There just isn't any hydrogen infrastructure though. It's significantly more difficult to implement than battery charging infrastructure
@markwalton86442 жыл бұрын
@@TimInertiatic Hydrogen will be coming. Lorries will be Hydrogen soon. There's no way Lorries can sustain a long journey on BEV!
@mikeclifton77782 жыл бұрын
Or Hydrogen combustion? Harry's Farm and Harry's Garage did an interesting interview with Lord Bamford of JCB fame about the advantages of burning hydrogen in modified IC vehicles, worth a watch.
@TimInertiatic2 жыл бұрын
@@markwalton8644 ok fine, but where is the hydrogen infrastructure?
@markwalton86442 жыл бұрын
@@TimInertiatic The infrastructure will come soon as it'll have to by 2030. EV lorries aren't going to work!!
@Zygersaf2 жыл бұрын
Honestly this is more exciting than a lot of electric cars at the moment I think!
@gg_vard2 жыл бұрын
That mirror controls are definitely the same in the mk1 Focus
@russellfrost56522 жыл бұрын
I like it, but here’s my question. The range clearly came down even hauling something weighing only a few hundred kg’s, hence the need to the extra “splash and dash”. I carry over 1t daily in my van, I’d like to understand what that would change the real world mileage to as I just can’t see how electric vans will work properly until they have diesel like range. At the moment that means more/heavier batteries, which means a lower load capacity. IMO unless the gov change the driving licences to 7.5t as a standard like they used to Pre 1997 then electric vans just don’t make sense if they’re going on long journeys, carrying a heavy load. With a 7.5t you could have huge batteries that could easily give longer range and you’d keep your ability for a heavy payload.
@vremster2 жыл бұрын
Very true. I think that's why Ford recommends a mix of electric and diesel vans. Electric for city and suburban routes, and diesel for longer hauls like you describe. Until batteries get lighter, or can store much more energy, we'll have a definite need for some diesel and petrol vehicles.
@gasdive2 жыл бұрын
Weight makes almost no difference to range at all. As long as it's inside and not changing the drag you'd never be able to tell. Wind direction makes a huge difference. Vastly more than weight.
@computerjantje2 жыл бұрын
agree. Again the video is made by an electric enthusiast with no experience of day to day usage of a van. ev is presented always too sunny :) I am skeptical because it is the trend to be ev enthusiast instead of really objective.
@DEZ11722 жыл бұрын
"Ford Tranist , Ford Transit .... Fords" Spoken in fluent Daganam 💯Another great informative review Cheers Jonny👍👍
@andydahl6092 жыл бұрын
Great review, I have driven electric for nearly 6 years now(Nissan leaf 30). For this van to work the charging network at ports has to improve significantly, we have just been left with no range when arriving at the ferry from cairnryan to larne! I had the granny charger with us(luckily) and managed to steal a few precious miles from p and o! As for the future of vans, electric is a certainty! Perhaps chargers on boats? They all have monster power generation with three phase?
@tonys16362 жыл бұрын
Ferry operators should definitely install charging points on the vehicle decks, they have installed USB points in the passenger areas for us and most ferry passengers have a vehicle on board.
@ecoworrier2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see charging points on eurotunnel. Its already an electric vehicle running on high voltage.
@903lew2 жыл бұрын
Ferry companies in Scandinavia are starting to offer charging on board. Must be pre-booked but it’s coming as the ferrys go into dock for refreshes.
@tomcardale55962 жыл бұрын
I travel all over the country (1-2000 miles a month ish, 700 miles in the last four days) looking at schools that either want solar panels or already have solar panels that are due some maintenance. I would love an electric van, because turning up in a diesel Land Rover as I'm doing now doesn't really fit with the agenda. Although it is a great talking point! However, an e-Dispatch, e-Expert and all the rest just don't have enough range or fast enough charging for making a 400 mile trip and a bunch of school visits in one day possible. I don't need a big van, I could probably fit everything in a Tesla Model Y and that does have enough range, but a van is a better fit than paying for a load of luxury that I don't value and would get in the way. I've looked at taking all the seats out of an MG5, but it's nearly big enough with nearly enough range and there are too many not quite there aspects to make it work (plus the boot lip is horrendous).
@killerhertzmercedes2 жыл бұрын
4:33 notice the rust on the brackets? Brand new van already rusting.
@grahamhaynes76582 жыл бұрын
I've a 8 year old custom,only rust is on front subframe and sump.They aren't like previous gen rust buckets.
@downtheshedwithjason2 жыл бұрын
i glad you explained how stuff gets around. I thought the magic elves made shop stock in the back room overnight.
@Ancovg2 жыл бұрын
I drove Diesel to work 35,000km a year, now two months back I bought a small EV and I never wanna drive something else ever again, it drives amazing! though I must say you're never gonna get the distance they say you can but only 2/3rd of it. I should be able to drive 310km with it but I wont be getting further than 230 or maybe 250 when driving 100km/h (60mph). But that's enough for my daily use and above all it's only half of the price per km.
@jabberwockytdi89012 жыл бұрын
It rides better when unladen because it's heavier in the 1st place !
@MattyEngland2 жыл бұрын
MUCH heavier
@randompete22042 жыл бұрын
For area multi drop with short distances to travel they are perfect. But all the van driving I've done they would be impossible to even consider, due to miles and always chasing the clock.
@classic_britain2 жыл бұрын
Bahaha that into Jonny you legend!
@markreed98532 жыл бұрын
I drove a few Ford Transits as a parcel delivery driver/Milkman back in the 90's, I always liked them. Good to see one electric, would have been so good for me back then as never did over 120 miles per day and lots of stop/start.
@petesmitt2 жыл бұрын
The T bar Transits were great, the later automated manual Transits were an abomination.
@CafeElectric2 жыл бұрын
Love me a good Van! Excellent review as always. Why does L give higher regen? Good question. I think it's following the standard of automatic transmissions with PRNDL, where low range gives more engine braking.
@Daniel-uj7rr2 жыл бұрын
I think it's L for load. As in carrying a load.
@robtheknob77912 жыл бұрын
@@Daniel-uj7rr I always understood it to be low range because it limits the top speed and allows the engine to rev higher to produce more torque due to gearing.
@sahhull2 жыл бұрын
Ive been talking to Ford on Facebook... 166 miles. Thats the vans range when empty. They wont state the fully loaded range. Im a mobile detailer in the UK. My current van is a 20 year old 450,000mile Vauxhall combo diesel. Even loaded I get 50mpg, 800+ miles per 5 min fill up. I paid £1500 for it, 14 years ago! I hired a Nissan EV van for a month. I gave the thing back after 2 weeks because I was having to cancel appointments and loosing money. I cannot charge at home so even if I bought one. I'd be reliant on public charging (Its expensive, more expensive than my diesel van that burns 25p worth of diesel per mile). The EV van allegedly had a 200 mile range. On a typical day. I drive 150miles per day. Except. Once I'd loaded the van for work inc the water tank. I was getting 50 miles from a charge. I had to charge the thing 3 times per day! Thats around 4 hours wasted per day just charging!. My average day with the EV: Take missus to work. She comes home on the bus. Charge the van... Yawn. Do 1st job... Drive to the charge point, wait in a 3 or 4 deep queue and eventually charge the van. Cancel 2nd job because of the charging issue. Charge the van so its ready for taking the missus to work. If we did any socialising, shopping etc... I'd need to visit the charger again before turning in for the night or we wouldnt have enough juice to take the missus to work in the morning. Charging the van isnt just the time charging the thing. Theres the time to drive to the charge point (not many around here). Waiting for a charger to be available if someone is already there. I have been 5 deep in a queue. I really despair for the future. EV's are still not good enough. The range is too short and the charge time too long. public charging facilities are sketchy at best. I live in a city of 320,000 people. My nearest public charge point is 8 miles away, there is just 2 points. The next charge points are a further 15 miles away across the city. I also hate card payments. I have lost so many credit cards... I leave it at home, Im not good with cards.. I can buy diesel with cash... I like cash, I know where I am with cash.
@TheLateBrakeShow2 жыл бұрын
Clearly an EV van at their current spec is not for you. However it will work for hundreds of businesses doing thousands of errands.
@Moggster232 жыл бұрын
Shame it hasn't got the current miles per kWh meter visible on the dash. I bet it's there but buried in a menu somewhere. I think you hit the spot on the review as to who the van is aimed at. Oh and I hope Ford catch up with the hooligan who stuck those stickers on their van....whoever they are! 😉
@FFVoyager2 жыл бұрын
@@dashcam2417 eh? 🙄
@gavinwyllie78552 жыл бұрын
@@dashcam2417 utter bollocks mate .
@awild102 жыл бұрын
Good to see the first preset on the radio was TalkSport. Still a proper Traaaansit!
@dashcam24172 жыл бұрын
What's the towing capability of the van ?
@benllewelyn982 жыл бұрын
Up to 2000kg according to google
@dashcam24172 жыл бұрын
@@benllewelyn98 that's for the transit Custom E .. Our Ford dealer said this large model has no towing capability .. That's why we are trying to find out .
@KurisuBonsai2 жыл бұрын
Love the Fowds Traaaansitahhhh interludes, may have replayed a few timesl. Richard needs to take the samples and give it full sniff stellantis remix.
@neilbrown56572 жыл бұрын
Seriously 150 miles to a charge on an empty van Won't even cover my first trip on Monday of 210 miles one way
@MattyEngland2 жыл бұрын
Come on, what van driver wouldn't enjoy adding 3 hours to every working day, sat looking at a battery progress bar? 😉😂
@Mtthwpez2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I want to see what it'll do half full, let alone fully laden. I reckon you would be lucky to get 80 miles out of it!
@neilbrown56572 жыл бұрын
Can see it now First job Glasgow to Inverness that's 200 miles on monday When you need me there boss Tues or wed
@MattyEngland2 жыл бұрын
@@neilbrown5657 lmao, or Thursday if you want the heater on 👍
@Brian-om2hh2 жыл бұрын
So not suitable for you. But perfectly suitable for others....... A plumber or joiner, perhaps based in a large town or city, might never drive more than 40 or 50 miles in a day, if that......
@jstokvis2 жыл бұрын
Excellent, lots of good information and professionally delivered, Johnny please make more content we love it.
@michalrajnic7582 жыл бұрын
I really would love an EV one day... but I often do long journeys of 600-800km a day and just can't bear the thought of potentially having to charge 3-4 times adding perhaps 2 or more hours. One tank of diesel is all it takes. Plus going any faster than 120-130kmh just kills EV ranges. I think synthetic fuels or hydrogen is the way.
@Brian-om2hh2 жыл бұрын
Fine, if you're ok with around £10 per litre for synthetic fuel, or driving around looking for one of the 12 hydrogen filling points in the whole of the UK. And don't expect hydrogen to be a cheap fuel.......
@RedBatteryHead2 жыл бұрын
Efuel is no way a solution to stop burning stuff. Neighter is H2. They both are fossil industries love babies. And for that. The range on a FCEV is the same as a same priced competitor. In you're scenario you need an EV6/Ioniq5 Or an i4. They do that charging job in just your coffee break.
@RLTtizME2 жыл бұрын
You would be silly to buy an EV then. That is their weakness and the infrastructure simply isn't there.
@RedBatteryHead2 жыл бұрын
@@RLTtizME wake up.
@RLTtizME2 жыл бұрын
@@RedBatteryHead fellnarp
@singularfish2 жыл бұрын
We've had three E-transits at our company for a good month now, the first three in Norway. They're bloody brilliant.ich better range than the cars they are replacing, three e-crafters with abysmal range (peaking 150km in the summer months and seat that deteriorated after 20k km after jumping in and out many times a day. One thing that really bothers me with the e-transit is the cover in the box. It's bloody slippery as hell. Boxes neatly arranged into the back get flipped and thrown around at the first roundabout. It seems they've picked the material with the lowest friction, and polished it to make it worse. Otherwise this review is spot on, resonates my thoughts. Thanks Johnny!
@Tsenngu2 жыл бұрын
What kind of range do you get from your cars? It is summertime now so in winter around 30/35% less is to be expected. (range both empty and filled with cargo if you know)
@singularfish2 жыл бұрын
Our parcels vary in weight, but we very rarely load up our vans with heavier than 750kg, on a busy day. We have 50-80 deliveries per day depending on the route and sales. Sadly I drew the short straw so I am stuck with the e-crafter for the time being so I can't give an average-ish number on the range when we unplug them from our solar power in the morning (whole roof of our warehouse is covered in solarpanels). But the e-transits we've been told to expect about 230km range at best, which is good conditions and no load. The heavier stuff and pallets we throw on our euro-6's and Volvo FL electric
@Simon-dm8zv2 жыл бұрын
@@singularfish Nice! Bjørn should do a video with you guys.
@marbastworks85192 жыл бұрын
Good show Johnny, thank you. As you rightly say, diesel prices are not going to drop significantly anytime soon. But shouldn't your real-world review also disclose how much you paid for the electricity on the road? (as opposed to the figure for 'at-home' charging) That way, us 'floating voter' diesel users who are considering the big e-switch will have another figure to factor in.
@jamesbutler6062 жыл бұрын
instavolt is 55p/kw currently. a m/KwH would have been nice to know about the van too.
@techforenergyltd98342 жыл бұрын
Charging at home on an EV tariff is approx 7.5 p / kWh - available from many suppliers
@jonathantaylor19982 жыл бұрын
When Jonny stopped for the first charge, he'd covered 109 miles on approximately 74% of the usable 68kWh battery capacity, so using about 50kWh of electricity, which actually equates to a not-unreasonable 2.18 miles per kWh of efficiency (compared with some Audi E-Tron SUV drivers who get LESS than 2 miles/kWh...!! 😲 ) If you were only ever able to charge using public rapid chargers (the equivalent of only EVER buying your diesel from a motorway services... which you probably wouldn't do...) then that would've cost around 50 x 57p/kW = £28.50. That's the equivalent of a diesel van doing about 32mpg (at £1.86 p/litre diesel) However, if after those 109 miles, the van had then been charged overnight at home on a sensible EV energy tariff (4 hours for approximately 22kW at 7.5p/kW, then 5 hours for 28kW at 39p/kW), then that drops the price down to only £12.57 total cost - the equivalent of a diesel Transit doing 73mpg...! 👍
@MichaelEricMenk2 жыл бұрын
I like analog instruments, they work with polarized sun glasses.....