NEW Gryphon Speakers BLOWS EVERYONES MIND! The EOS 2

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

Thanks for watching the video, please remember I dont work for Nintronics, I am not a HiFi Dealer, I am an independent reviewer who visited Nintronics for this event. Thanks

[@BogdanWeiss]

Any indication of the price ? Or should I not ask ? thanks ;-)

[@keeferdog5617]

@@BogdanWeiss DONT ASK!

[@FireMunki63]

Doing the sums its probably somewhere in the region of £ 250,000.00 - £ 275,000.00 depending on the stand cost ( EOS 2's £ 22,500.00 | Antileon EVO Mono Power Amps (Pair) £ 72,500.00 | Commander Pre-Amp £ 60,000.00 | Vanta Speaker Cables 2.5m (Pair) £ 16,750.00 | Ethos CD Player £ 35,000.00 | I presume that is a DAC under the CD and above the Commander Pre Amp but couldn't find a price for it so allowed for the Gryphon Kalliope DAC £ 24,500.00 | If you include for interconnects which are all VANTA then these can range at £ 6,250.00 for an XLR (Pair), £ 5,250.00 for Vanta Power Cables, £ 3,250 - £ 3,750.00 for Vanta Digital Interconnects. Vanta StandArt equipment furniture which surprisingly was not used here including on the Mono Blocks again would cost around £ 1,500 per level except for Mono block supports which would cost £ 16,750.00 (Pair) but were not used here). I think you can safely call this a 1/4 million system. Imagine if you went for their flagship £ 360,000.00 speakers? No wonder he cannot afford socks or a suit a size bigger to fit him (I talk in jest of course, who am I to question fashion at the age of 60?, lol)

[@darrenbarugh9218]

I was at the event and can honestly say I think people were genuinely surprised at just how good this little speaker is. Just stunning!

[@bigblueocean]

Amazing, unique content. No one in hifi puts in more effort or provides more variety. Thanks Tel.

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

Thanks for noticing 😀

[@ajay55556]

Wow the rep is very knowledgeable and provided great insight into the system. Thanks for posting the video for your us to enjoy/!

[@hifisymphony]

I was at the private event in USA and heard them.. Very nice speakers.

[@LuxAudio389]

I lost my composure looking at all that Gryphon Gear. Nice to see other brands in the mix too as well as Luxman 😍

[@regisvoiclair]

Yes, PLEASE, review this speaker!

[@jasonnewby7358]

Had an invite but couldn’t get down. Thanks for doing this one Terry.

[@WTJ3405]

Terry, They must really be amazing as in your opening presentation you were like a kid in Christmas morning!! So refreshing to see such enthusiasm.

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

Yeah I enjoyed the day, when days are like that they dont feel like work

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

😎 YOU GOT A WHOLE DAY … with them and others

[@Egofileo1]

Great Terry, as always. I've already wrote it and so I'd lik to repeat myself: you're the best Brit reviewer here on the Tube, your content are always much much appreciated (at least, to me of course). I hope you'll have the chance to test these new speakers soon, as well as the top of the line Pre and final Amp of the Gryphon range of products. Good job, thanks again for the video.

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

Thanks Man, I am not sure I am worthy of the Apex and Commander maybe one day it would be awesome to be there. Than ks again for the kinds comments means a lot

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

🤗 WE HOPE YOU GET YOUR WISH TO REVIEW THEM AND WE WILL ENJOY IT WITH YOU 👂😎

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

🤗😎THANK YOU TERRY …FOR LETTING US IN …on a budget system 😁💚💚💚

[@Ricky-cl5bu]

They look amazing

[@craigtomlinson2075]

Yes Terry! Review these speakers….PLEASE 👍👍

[@marcus1970]

Great content... Being there was fantastic.. as you say it HAS to be heard personally for full appreciation of what's on offer.. For sure the upstream components were of the utmost quality... But the EOS 2 were perspicuous in presentation, expansive and richly detailed with subtle nuance.. Great slam when required, shockingly composed in such a large room... Rune was so candid in his conversation.. Top bloke.

[@njalbrekke4861]

Yes, hoping for a review😊

[@LuxAudio389]

As I thought about what Gryphon is doing here, and what they've done with their Pantheon's crossover, it's interesting how they really have focused on performance in this model and "real world" living spaces that can co-exist with high-end speakers. This seems like a game changer as to how they are dealing with living space constraints by tailoring the crossover and the overall design. I know PS Audio has touched on this with their FR30'S, but I hope you are able to get a pair of these to test and compare with non Gryphon Gear which we know is phenomenal and may even make a Bose speaker spectacular 😉 But if what you heard at the demo can come close to what you heard If is that good, then I hope other manufactures ears are up, because in all the other channels, the consensus in the comments is that having a dedicated listening space is not possible.

[@totalplonker824]

Out of My League but still interested! Thanks for making and posting.

[@ashvarma2486]

Great video. Thanks for sharing. Would have been great to hear a good recording of this system but no worries.

[@titntin5178]

Great content as always Terry. At 20K its simply looking into the life style of others, its not something most of your viewers are gonna be able to afford. But we can all dream, and a peek at this stuff is fascinating, so thanks for bringing it to us.

[@BogdanWeiss]

Is that 20K Pounds or Euro ?

[@badhabitz69]

@@BogdanWeiss same thing now......

[@LuxAudio389]

Most may not be able to afford them, however, what they are doing is innovative enough to rethink how a speaker can be designed to also keep in mind space and placement constraints. This can trickle down to the "affordable" markets.

[@kkjrees]

I love your channel, honest opinions, unbiased informative not pretentious and no clichés, please keep them coming

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

Thank you Mike for commenting like this, it means a lot

[@adamcurtis5494]

Superb Terry, great video. 👍🏼

[@gino3286]

Wonderful I think that also Aliens would be surprised by this level of craftsmanship

[@bocolis88]

An in-house review? Yes please!

[@johngardner9227]

Another great video, thanks Terry really enjoyed it

[@henriksrensen3220]

Of course it's great, it's a Gryphon 👏👍

[@klaverro]

Wow! Thanks for sharing this Terry. These Gryphon speakers seems amazing. Hope you can ‘twist an arm’ for a review at your place … 😊. I am very curious how these speakers will do in a smaller room and with other brands of amplification. Ronald.

[@labalo5]

I’d love to hear these. Rune Skov is the man!

[@vinoheart]

Thank you PPS.

[@Novilicious]

A fun thing to do would be to meet one of the real life customers and have them talk about their griffins amp/speakers

[@jusuflazami9580]

ABSOLUTELY PLEASE!

[@goahead3995]

I think speaker manufacturers sometimes use fancy materials to charge more money. I used to own a pair of speakers with beryllium tweeters which went up to 45kHz. I liked it, but it was not my endgame speakers (I am 51yrs). My current speakers I consider them as my endgame speakers. It's Q Acoustics Concept 500s. These soft domes to me sound way better.

[@benpit2762]

Great video, thanks!

[@shanestephenson8423]

Definitely you need to get those in your room Terry, where do I sign the petition.🖊🙂🎧👍

[@bigjay1970]

Great presentation!😊

[@AmazonasBiotop]

I am not trying to be rude but here is my experience for what it is worth. Being on several hifi shows and experience difrent combinations and setups. Knowing some of the gear and been on demonstrations of speaker cables (everything else the same) and other demonstrations of power conditioners and power cables (and everything the same). When those demonstrations pointing out that we get a BIG difference of the sound. By just interchange few of the "components"/preconditions. Then it was a eye opener! In that regard that we could see modest speakers performing wonderful in some rooms, sound despite they're not top of the line or high end in any way. (Speaker manufacturers that hook up their speakers to exceptional electronics. And of course they want to show off their speakers in the best circumstances as possible). When you look closely on the whole system you see cables, power conditioner, electronics that IS top of the line that are far more (unrealistic) expensive in comparison to the speakers that they are hooked up to. So the question is what are we actually listening to and what conclusions we can get when attending this listening session. In this demonstration we have electronics that probably weight more than 200kg in total.. and top of the line. With a big and treated room. So probably most of the buyers of those speakers will not have that preconditions with big room, treatment or >200kg HW. Then when the buyers of the speakers will most likely not get the sound quality as at this demonstration. What we can learn from this type of demonstration: 1. What the maximum performance potential of the speakers that we can get or possibly could get. 2. And knowing what the max sound quality could be of the speakers then we know how much the speakers COULD SCALE when upgrading the rest of YOUR own system electronics. But we CAN NOT SAY that those speakers are better or worse than another pair of speakers of a different brand or model. When all the preconditions most likely is NOT the same. Just my two satoshi. 👍🎼🎶🎵

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

Yeah I asked the same question on the day, how much of the great sound was the speakers, how much the Commander pre amp or how much just the designed in synergy of all the gear from one brand. Without doing a whole host of comparisons its impossible to know but at the end of the day the speaker being the final link in the chain it has to be able to produce the sound we heard even if its being fed by much more quality than it has. So I took that away from this demo, the speaker can really deliver beyond what I expected and that I really liked the sound of an all Gryphon system. It was very enjoyable to me

[@dlmp70]

A fantastic presentation by Gryphon. Thanks a lot for sharing it! Do you know what the room dimensions were, exactly?

[@maxguerrero556]

Would love to give the speakers another shot at listening to them in a more properly set up room. I had the chance to audition them at THE SHOW in Long Beach and was not fully sold on them. Could possibly be these were still in prototype mode and also my understating the dealer had to switch rooms last minute. I felt the room was way to small. Gryphon makes spectacular gear no doubt.

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

Best to never rule anything out just from hearing it at a show, ruling it in makes sense, but ruling it out I think you should always test another time. Not just for these I think for everything.

[@ProjectOverseer]

The only thing those mono blocks are missing are tank tracks and a gun barrel 🎶👍

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

You can have them, they just cost a small premium :)

[@ProjectOverseer]

@@PursuitPerfectSystem 😂

[@ganck1147]

Interesting indeed. Heard some huge gryphon spks years back at the local hifi show couple of times & they always sounded awful. As usual great content Terry.

[@piotrbiedowicz1602]

He forget his socks😂😂😂

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

For an audiophile Rune has style

[@sanmiguel4019]

@@PursuitPerfectSystem Speakers so good they blew his socks off!

[@nelsono4315]

mind boggling gear. WOW!!

[@JNElectrics]

Great video

[@giorgioisgaming5814]

So funny, when he started talking about the power consumption oft the class A amps 😂 When you can afford such a system, you certainly will not have a problem with the electricity bill and most likely you won‘t care in the first place

[@rolandogues9965]

This speaker would fit perfectly in my room.Was thinking about magico A5.Might be overkill.

[@jabbejokker]

A two way 7 inch. Thats never been done before... You guys are probably listening to the room. Looks well thought out.

[@rudolfappel7236]

The reason why I look at speakers from all sides is such that I can detect a bass reflex port. Bass reflex ports are no problem for far from the wall placements, for which my home is far too small. I prefer other speaker concepts. Acoustic suspension (closed cabinet), passive radiators , or controlled ventilation by design. Why all the expensive design efforts to a speaker if the user can change its entire characteristic with a 5 ct foam plug? I had that with my first set of speakers.

[@sMASHsound]

the power on the amps class A is a good point, but still, does it sound that much better....

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

I think being Class A is just one aspect, but how gryphon build their amps which at this level its massive class a with huge amounts of current available that is the bit that likely makes me stand out, not just being class a

[@sMASHsound]

@@PursuitPerfectSystem its the power draw im really interested in. does the improvement really justifies the power draw? like with a COMPARATIVELY more efficient amp( doesnt hve to be super efficient), does the power draw give that much more apprciable improvement?

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

I think you would need to test this yourself and noone can answer it for you, you would need to hear what difference there might be. I would like to as well

[@rog86]

Great vid. My critical listening can be more like 20 hours a week, as im always critical!...🤪 very interesting tho, and wayyyyyy out of my range.

[@darrenburtoft1792]

Way above my pay grade, aspirational though 🤤 Can’t wait for you to get your mitts on them for a review 👍🏻

[@Plastpackad]

Looks like Sonos Faber and Wilson had a baby...

[@soundlysbananacam6182]

Buy that man some socks , does he not know he's in public ! lol

[@williammorales8204]

Do they make their own drivers?

[@gravy2973]

What is the component above the pre amp and below the CD player ...????

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

Pink Faun Streamer

[@jeffkalina7727]

So compared to Stenheim, Borresen, Vimberg etc? I will attend that shootout!

[@1psxpat]

Nice review as always. I have a quick question. As dirac calibrator, for stereo 2 channel audio, for dirac calibration using umik1 mic, do you use 0 degree or 90 degree for umik1? I got confused cause some people says using 0 degree and some says using 90 degree. Thank you.

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

You an do either but 90 makes more sense and its easier to place the mic more accurately where you want it

[@1psxpat]

@@PursuitPerfectSystem thank you

[@BobFrostV]

Please tell them to publish dispersion data for each of the 3 switch modes. F3 at 24hz is surprising. Do you know the Crossover Frequency and the RMS? I can't seem to find a product pdf or any new info yet.

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

I would say if your keen on the speaker contact them directly and ask for the info

[@DearSX]

Great looking speaker, I was hoping it was going to cost $3k.

[@AF-rd2vf]

😂

[@sandyhui3562]

us$15000

[@snakechmr5191]

I'm in the process of replacing/rebuilding my critical listening system. The speakers will be the last of it. I was hoping that these were in the sub $10K US/pr range. Damn. The search continues.....🧐

[@sandyhui3562]

I am using Jadis integrated amp KT88 and MBL cd player noble line it is suitable for me to play them with this amazing Gryphon new small speakers?

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

Hard to say, best to speak to a dealer when these are in stores but they are designed to be easy to drive so its possible yes, but check first as its a lot of money

[@sandyhui3562]

@@PursuitPerfectSystem thanks for your valuable advice😊

[@dihydrotestosterone]

In today's world, I can't comprehend why those top notch companies don't offer room correction... even if it's sounding very good there has to be some improvement that only room correction can fix... either Dirac or else... as a professional Dirac calibrator what is your take on my assessment? Thanks Terry for all the great videos. 🙋

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

I believe I can make any system sound better with Dirac because of the room, that goes without saying to me, but in this system I would want to have Dirac in the source and thats not what is being demonstrated here. The HiFi world is still very new to Dirac and they havent heard good demos of what it can do. It will take a long time for this to happen as for a lot of audiophiles they are set in their ways and used to sound without it. However this system without it still sounded better than excellent and was not mid bass light as a lot of systems are when played in rooms. This system was setup very well and the overall sound was mesmerising in ways to make you forget about technicalities and just enjoy it for the experience. That doesn't happen to me very often hence my excitement for the system.

[@kevinwest1607]

Dang sexy speakers!

[@Ricky-cl5bu]

It would need to sound good with that pre and power amps

[@C-man553]

That's an SB Acoustics Satori woofer.

[@sandyhui3562]

are these speaker good if i am using tube amplifier KT88? thx

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

They are 6 ohms and 4 ohms minimum so easy to drive - so I would say yes they should be but of course I havent tried to this to know 100%

[@sandyhui3562]

@@PursuitPerfectSystem many thx

[@harrisedgar]

At 4:02 what is the name of the song? Great video as usual. Thank you.

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

Its called All the time by Divine but no idea if its available on streaming services etc

[@imosolar]

I want one for my Wilson Audio speakers

[@itk2493]

I'm curious, how many people in the UK would buy a new Gryphon system per year? How many pairs do they expect to sell in a year? I imagine they sell more pairs to dealers than the public. I've never been in anybodies house that has anything remotely like this.

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

People buy them otherwise dealers wouldnt stock them and there would be no Gryphon

[@itk2493]

@@PursuitPerfectSystem Obviously, but how many would you say?

[@herbertsajulga9783]

im impressed what he say not the sounds

[@bigblueocean]

The Gryphon guy is wasted! They should be doing a KZbin channel presenting their kit.

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

oi thats my job.....

[@milkman100001]

how much are those speakers terry?

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

20k ish

[@Thomas-us4wq]

Hejsa.. Vi skal da have et review af det her udstyr på youtube :) Pursuit Perfect System er en god kanal.. :) Men lad os da endelig se reviews på andre populære audiofile youtube kanaler. :)

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

There are not many channels that look at equipment at this value, most concentrate on the more affordable stuff as that is generally more popular on KZbin. Unless your used to gear at this level it makes it harder to review not eaiser and you need a system at the right level too, also hard.

[@Thomas-us4wq]

@@PursuitPerfectSystem I know.. Channels have their particular profile Pursuit Perfect System does a good job on high end products. Still I think having a product reviewed by several reviews provides nuance.. And then.. One day, I may be able to afford the product. :)

[@carminedesanto6746]

Terry 😋 How is this even possible 😮😮😮😮

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

very good speakers with clever setup in the room, crazy good hifi system, next level system and whats amazing is the speakers were brand new never played before Friday so they had hardly any playtime on them before this demo day on Saturday. They sounded better in the afternoon for example

[@carminedesanto6746]

@@PursuitPerfectSystem I’ve given up on the full room filling systems of my youth ..in my senior years it’s now headphones and IEM’s for my listening pleasure 😋 Take care and stay safe☕️

[@CarlVanDoren61]

Speaker cones supplied by focal?

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

noooooo 😀

[@howard5992]

6:04 Composite Sound - based in Sweden - a spin off from Oxeon, AB ( which appears to actually be a fairly small niche manufacturing company, FWIW )

[@RennieAsh]

The "textreme' type cones are supplied to a number of manufacturers, including Rockport, SB Acoustics, Perlisten, and this Gryphon. The material is all from the same place though I think.

[@majtextwriter1794]

he forgot to put on his socks or... why he was not wearing a shorts?? strange to speak about speaker details without of socks...😀

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

He is actually wearing socks if you look closely, but more important look up Mens Italian suit style 2022. Its not odd to talk about speakers without wearing socks its odd to see an audiophile actually care about their presentation and have some style. Its 2022 the 1902

[@majtextwriter1794]

@@PursuitPerfectSystem Elegant anwer. Actually my remark on socks and dressing style does not matter for video's point. For me it is just more like elegant enveloping dressing style of kinda a early punk style. Nothing original and new. Kind regards.

[@stiglilleaas5685]

Have anyone of you heard Mütters , Stradivarius ... ?! If no, I can assure you that if your HiFi system played like it sounds you would have sprinted like Bolt to find out what the hell was wrong with something in the electric chain .... Ha Ha

[@AbsoluteFidelity]

Whats the retail on the EOS 2?

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

Around 20k euros

[@AbsoluteFidelity]

@@PursuitPerfectSystem *gulp*

[@Nick_S0]

@@PursuitPerfectSystem 'Not for everyone', lol

[@jackkan5987]

Looks like 3A Episode BE's

[@patrickmeylemans9627]

And sound demo?

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

I explained this in the first few minutes Patrick and I don't do sound demos anymore. I explained why in a community post recently called "the curse of the sound demo"

[@simonstevens753]

It's the set up that dictates the sound.note the damping panels.

[@WXSTANG]

I would love to hear it... but buy it is a hard pass. $100K for a mono block amp, and $100K for a speaker... wow! I never knew these guys existed.

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

this gear is very expensive but not that much

[@didibms123]

eikon vs eos 2 pls

[@edwarddiogu6377]

Too many good speakers that's now made me confused

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

Short list, go and listen, choose the right ones for you, happy days ! 😀

[@gintarasshlizhyus1567]

Everything fine but why not let a few minutes of playback demo too in this video instead of just talking talking talking?

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

Copyright claim

[@mephInc]

While I'm sure they sound beautiful, at some point you reach a scale of diminishing returns. However, if you're dead set on the best, and have the cash, by all means.

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

I think when you hear system like this one you realise the point of diminishing returns is much higher than seems obvious

[@x32i77]

I would buy them if they wouldn't require and expensive chain, those mono blocks are unnecessary expensive

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

If you see these amps in the flesh and try and pick one up you see why they are expensive

[@sh00kac]

I heard it live, impressive but would never buy it and live with it, just too much (transparency) for me

[@JingoLoBa57]

No music no joy…

[@lanx0003]

Sooooooooooooooooooo cheap, only $20k. I will pull the trigger.

[@billywindsock9597]

Gryphon sound good, but they look horrible. Even if I had the money, they are not the kit for me.

[@Gullsz]

He means men and a woman, not women, have been to see the speaker.

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

It was mostly men of course but there was more than one woman who attended, there is at least three shown in the video for starters, but yeah of course we get the point.

[@zorantobdzic7364]

For $20.000 there are a way better speakers

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

For a small room for placement close to a wall - way better not really

[@kingwillbisthebest]

A lot of "Sonus Faber" look about this speaker. Let me guess, designed and built in China

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

All Gryphon products are made in Denmark but the mid bass driver is made in Sweden, not sure about the tweeter but its unlikely to be China.

[@AF-rd2vf]

Sonus Faber’s upper end speakers are made in Italy.

[@peterhaslund]

Why not get somebody who actually masters the English language to do the presentation? I guess I understand what he's trying to say, but then I'm Danish too...

[@DynissRainer]

He did a great job - he works for the company - kudos to him.

[@didg9566]

Commercial Bullshit! It is impossible to have same dynamic at low volume than at high volume... In addition if you are interested by sound, take a look at fletcher curves, human audition is not equally sensitive at different volume, that's why loudness setting are introduce in 80's... We just hear medium at low level if nothing is corrected accordingly.

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

Your confusing the speakers in room behaviour with the amplifiers capability to resolve information and dynamics. You dont want an amplifier built around the fletcher munson curve, you want that from the speakers setup in the room. This is why loudness buttons on every product sound terrible and why no high end audio product offers it. None

[@didg9566]

@@PursuitPerfectSystem I react against the last part of argumentations and i didn't made any confusion. I fully understand the interest of a good amplifier with all his attributes but it is not a reason to "forget" basic physics rules. Loudness settings was just an example and you would be surprised by the amount of corrections/adaptations/treatments implemented in various DSP/FGPA in all hi-end electronics, including amplifiers of course.

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

Have you had direct experience with these or other Gryphon class a amplifiers, if not maybe seek some out and have a listen, what they say you can hear it.

[@didg9566]

@@PursuitPerfectSystem Of course, i heard various hi-end systems and i really appreciate some of them. To be honest, Gryphon was never my favorite, they made some nice but also 'only acceptable" products for the price in my opinion. As usual, at certain level, the set up can be more influent then electronics itself. A wrong cable, a wrong speaker positioning, a bad room modes and you can forget the thousand buckets you pay for...

[@paulroman7102]

Nobody buyinfpg low end gryphon

[@PursuitPerfectSystem]

To be fair the EOS 2 are Gryphons entry level speakers

[@aficionadohiend]

Rune Skov is a great guy.