New Guns | Astro Devlog

[@Bob420s]

I think a bullets bouncing off walls is cool but maybe only for like snipers or something so it doesn't look crazy like that.... And it should only bounce once.... It would make for some awesome clips

[@delgoodie]

Thanks thats what I thought! Maybe it will creep back in later!

[@antekpaztek]

What about some sort of grenade launcher? The launcher could also kickback the player shooting to dynamise gameplay

[@hadassahcuelho4540]

You could also add a particle affect where you can actually see the "bullet" or energy or whatever it is spin through the air for a second or two after it collides with the wall.

[@DaStuntChannel]

@@delgoodie Honestly, instead of limiting bounces to one, you can just divide the scale of the bullets by two and the damage by two so the more they bounce the less damage and the less visible they are

[@onikrux]

Halo's ricochet went pretty hard- I'm pretty sure there was restrictions based on distance and angle that allowed for a ricochet- but looking into what made that work the way it did might be key to finding the right balance to an otherwise "too-hectic" mechanic.

[@CosmicDev]

I think by adding a kick you could make some sort of melee possible, at the same time it could give you a pushback so it could be used for movement aswell, adding depth. Looks really cool ;D.

[@blindlight]

that sounds really fun and could help build flow and momentum around the map

[@hadassahcuelho4540]

Ooo, good idea. There could be a some kind of compression hammer or something that can boost you off a wall for a decent acceleration boost.

[@QUBIQUBED]

@@hadassahcuelho4540 NINJA STARS

[@Vic_PT]

yeah like kicking off wall, players, and maybe kicking things into players

[@reed6514]

​@@Vic_PTkicking players into players!

[@drakefruit]

probably just me but damn this would be a good VR game, especially with echo shutting down

[@GamerBrinedQw4w9WgXcQ]

They better add VR support

[@kxdsh]

ECHO'S SHUTTING DOWN????

[@ranchonbread4905]

@@kxdsh its been anounced for a while now. I think it was Meta's choice and theres a whole petition with thousands of signatures to keep it up. It's a whole thing.

[@shcade8926]

It would be really cool if you could push yourself off of walls. Would be motion sick haven though

[@drakefruit]

@@shcade8926 good thing im immune to motion sickness

[@itsfynn]

yoo this is really cool, gonna keep an eye on it!

[@ShounenN]

You should make the teleport grenade much more visible for other players to see where it is so it isn't too op. A big glow or something would be good.

[@sciguystfm]

The teleport absolutely needs to be obvious, like unmissable or it'll feel bullshit

[@evhunter0962]

I was thinking something like titanfall 2's phase shift where you have the effects when going in and out of invincibility, and maybe a slight delay?

[@ShounenN]

@@evhunter0962 whatever nerfs it a bit, since that grenade should also have some skill involved with it. It being really noticable forces the player to calculate his plan split second, where to throw it to not be seen, how far, maybe behind something, the angle, distance, surroundings, etc. If it was hard to see, player wouldn't really care where he threw it, he'd just want to get the fk away from there and throw it wherever.

[@reed6514]

100% agree

[@tatertots78]

extra particle effect/trail was added

[@thesightthesoundthefeeling8769]

This is looking pretty great so far. Have you considered environmental hazards, like an exploding extinguisher pushing you around or a broken window that shutters after a few moments Dead Space style? Would make the map feel more dynamic.

[@elijahtommy777]

You should add recoil to the guns. The average bullet weighs 80grams and the average rifle bullet leaves the gun at 1200m/s Assuming a player is 75kg Every single shot should also shoot the play back 1.3m/s

[@notkoops]

i was literally just thinking that huge explosion in the gun would knock you back 😂

[@mldy1]

most of the force would be from the expelled gas and the average bullet does not weigh anywhere near 80 grams

[@ninjireal]

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. When you fire a gun, you experience the same force your target does, just in a wider area.

[@MVS0N_]

id rather have good gameplay than it be as realistic as possible

[@notkoops]

@@MVS0N_ i think it could be integrated into gameplay pretty well. for one, DO NOT make the recoil pushing you back too much but noticeable if you stand still. you should still be able to move freely but be able to notice a change in movement because of the recoil if you ARE moving. say you could go to cover as you shoot and move backwards faster into it? while I AGREE 100% gameplay, I think players would intuitively think the recoil would push them back, at least a little bit.

[@dpgwalter]

This looks amazing! Really reminds me of Lawbreakers’ movement, which I still absolutely adore. Not sure if anyone’s suggested this yet, but in Lawbreakers your weapon’s kickback moved your character, so you could use that to reposition yourself, and even shoot behind yourself to quickly boost forward. Not sure if it fits the game fully, but it was one of the best parts if that game.

[@zejugames5045]

This is fantastic! Getting vibes of the Battle Roomrs from Ender's Game... love it, would work great in a tournament format!

[@Bonk2027]

By seeing how popular Boundary is I expect this game to be really good

[@raisgamesnz325]

Great job! Your progress is looking really good! I think expanding the fov was a really good idea.

[@Era043]

idk why youtube recommended this to me, but thanks yt, it looks like a neat blend between Prey's micrograv sections and titanfall, looks super cool, definitely gonna keep an eye on this game

[@JKozlovable]

Way to innovate the FPS genre! The genre's been explored to death, yet developers keep finding interesting ways to innovate on the formula. Really impressive stuff.

[@UGHWTF]

This looks insane, so much room for skill expression, looking forward to see your progress!! (Also this concept might be really interesting in vr)

[@mrkitloin]

its been done in vr, echo combat (sadly due to meta being meta echo is shutting down in august)

[@UGHWTF]

@@mrkitloin damn, that sucks

[@yomie2820]

Man, I literally had this idea for a game but you made it first. I hope it goes well man!

[@drake_lol]

echo combat

[@leftright6940]

i like the way you guys explain all of your processes! great for learning thank you

[@tangoto1209]

Not even a minute into the game and it already looks like it could full the mech sized hole in my heart for TF2 multiplayer.

[@Justan_Maxe]

Commenting to support. Idk if you already have the crosshair color pick option but it might be needed, that gray crosshair on bright/white map is a bit hardcore.

[@delgoodie]

That's a good idea! We'll probably have a color pick option in the future (default will likely be white)

[@AttilaDToth]

⁠@@delgoodieConsidering how new, good, and popular it is, you could check Battlebit’s options menus and see what you like for the various shooter options, then see what you like or could be inspired by. It also has colour options for various parts, even for markers, so your comment reminded me of that. This project is looking good!

[@deskflop3365]

Very cool project! I think it would be fun if there was a level where you fought on the outside of a spaceship with a giant planet or stars in the background

[@tristangrimm8274]

a game called boundary does that

[@Missing-frequency]

@@tristangrimm8274 my thoughts exactly

[@tethys8113]

This is a really interesting concept! In a way, it kind of feels like a modern take on old 6DOF shooters from the 90s. With the teleport, I can imagine some players might find it more intuitive to have their "exit" velocity vector be the sum of the teleporter's and their own just before teleporting, but I can definitely see how doing it this way simplifies its usage- often, excessively realistic physics for what you're trying to achieve can just end up being annoying.

[@mateuszfelisiak480]

KZbin recommended this video to me, congrats for breaking the algorythm :D Looks very fun, simple, but it's still a niche that needs to be filled. Keep on good work, guys!

[@Agentfirestarter]

I really enjoyed the video. You’ve earned my sub!

[@shauryachavan1284]

your game looks crazy good, good luck

[@jacobjohnson8993]

this looks like a really cool game definitely gonna sub and hit the bell so I know when it comes out.

[@paulholbach9896]

This is so rad guys. Keep doing what you’re doin 🍻🫶🏼🫡

[@balsingh7168]

this looks AMAZING. good luck!

[@MattJSowards]

Dude your game is sick, good shit

[@The1TrueEcho]

Small detail, but why are you the first dev I've seen that actually appreciates the Chevron reticle? No joke, the military did a shitload of tests to determine how different shapes affect aim, and discovered that the chevron is the best shape for precision due to the corner being infinitely precise. (Dots and crosses can cover up their target at long enough distances) The circle is great for quick acquisition. The dot is good for simplicity. The cross is a jack of all trades, but completely beat out by... ACSS It is a chevron with a circle surrounding it. That's it. Technically the actual patented form of ACSS also includes windage, elevation, and auto-ranging features as well, but the base reticle is just a chevron inside of a circle.

[@jakedev7363]

Cool video! This is the first video I’ve seen form You but I already want to be a play tester.

[@tymarshy5575]

This game looks very cool, I think the increase in FOV was definitely a good idea. Looking good.

[@grapesandsand3816]

Very cool game idea, I like the ideas so far. I also agree with many other comments about a melee that can give you a push, and gun knockback. Also, armor that has weight could be interesting as it would decrease knockback, but also make it harder to change direction quickly as a tradeoff.

[@LiquidSoapDrinker]

Adding a grappling hook right off the bat? You have me sold

[@meepmadness9270]

looking epic, keep up the good work!

[@heckensteiner4713]

This looks sweet! Great work!

[@martinschauer6186]

Hi, I'm new here and think this game has one of the best movement ideas on the indie market. Looks really fun, so I hope development goes well :) Just one thing, that would be cool is, that weapons push one back a little (cause recoil is basically a force in the opposite direction one is shooting). That could open the opportunity to also balance weapons around the motion induced on the player using them and the option for players to use shooting like a rocket jump in quake. Blessings!

[@Zodaxa_zdx]

didn't know I needed "movement shooter" but in space so badly till now, now following this project wherever its going

[@delgoodie]

thanks :)

[@mracipayam]

Subscribed for interesting game design idea!

[@hippomelon1]

I can tell this game will be big, and as a self proclaimed "movement" player im really looking forward to playtesting this

[@gnsmovies8849]

Holy shit guys the enemy gate is down!!! For reals this is a fantastic idea and I can’t wait to see when’re you take it. I think it would be awesome to have the guns with bullets actually push your character back from the recoil, but have energy weapons not have this feature. It could be an interesting trade off between predictable gun play for energy weapons and added movement ability for standard weapons

[@notkeehan]

Finally, I've been waiting for one of these since seeing enders game

[@123v42]

I've always been looking for a dedicated movement fps that has the movement I've spent so many hours getting used to in space engineers. Space engineers is very far from perfect but I'd certainly have a good look at how it treats movement in 6 axes, and how characters interact with the world during collisions. Astro is looking sweet tho and I think you've got a great concept on your hands! Also as for the nausea, from experience with space engineers it's going to be very common, regardless of fov (although you're doing well to minimize it). However it certainly goes away for most people after a couple hours of gameplay. Looking awesome!

[@ResisterOfEvil]

So impressive, good work!

[@socialdamage]

For the Shot recognition there is a very interesting paper from Valve about Counter Strikes Network Interpolation called " Source Multiplayer Networking" which explains the use of "Ghost characters" and the hitbox. It helped me a lot to understand the problems in Multiplayer games

[@JackontheBoxx]

This is a genius idea for an FPS shooter. Thank god someone thought of it

[@sporewooky]

I think it would be cool if the grappling hook could grapple onto enemies where it pulls you together. It would make for awesome plays since you’d be able to somewhat control your opponent (only with the skill to do so of course) and I also think the game should have melee options if it doesn’t already. But so far it looks awesome, great work

[@pandahknight3246]

ima be gobblin down those teleport balls

[@TheFox-wd8wl]

this looks like fire and looks so trippy

[@Dysonsphere42]

"This is astro?" I think you mean this is freaking cool!!

[@watercat1248]

This looks great keep it up

[@DrDandD]

I have always thought a zero g fighting game was a cool idea. im glad someone is finally doing it

[@hi_8983]

Seeing this made me immediately think of the zero-g battle room from Ender's Game-I'd love to see a mode like that for some added variety

[@gametram6139]

i've called portal in vr this, but this is the true MOTION SICKNESS: THE GAME

[@beetloafisntreal]

this looks awesome you could probably just have it done (after fixing all of the bugs and a bit of polishing) and it would already be amazing right now cant wait to see what you'll do in the future

[@mikeoxmaul9870]

I’m not sure if this is the type of gameplay you want but I think if the player I running along the walls/ ground they should move a bit faster and have more control over movement

[@matthewpaquette]

This looks awesome!

[@TrulyRandomPersonage]

This looks really cool, joined the server!

[@wortwortwort117]

The ricochet bullets idea could be purposed into a special gun Known as the "tennis rifle".

[@SadToffee]

All i can think about is how running along surfaces and then jumping and just flying around would be so much fun. Would love to see a magnet boots system or something of the sort to allow the player to run along surfaces to gain speed, and then be able to carry that over into floating and grappling and such

[@arctiformgames]

Oooo this looks dope! Very curious to get a feel for gameplay. I always thought a zero gravity shooter would be really interesting, perhaps another useful ability could be gravity boots that keep you on a floor or wall and then allow for better precision and control?

[@y6rty]

we will watch your career with great interest

[@TheRodoeht]

This looks so promising and I wish you the best of luck. Sadly you really need it. Making an indie multiplayer game is incredibly hard, because the playerbase decided wether this game will be a hit or miss. There are so many amazing indie multiplayer games which died nearly instantly after releasing. I hope the success of battlebit remastered might change the landscape a little bit. I really want Astro to work out because it looks really good and innovative.

[@StashDatCash]

1:20 the tierlist with EA in D tier... W opinion

[@ForeverShadow0]

This looks so dope!!!

[@BoeBurb]

Awesome idea i can’t wait to play it

[@josiahmarsh9453]

This looks so fun!

[@Xgamesvidoes]

Finally a gamedev KZbinr that ain't cringe

[@mauriceallaert6588]

Damn Jeff 😅, amazing video!!!

[@ayon12351]

add hp packs accross the map. Flank routes, main ways, jump pads? Could add special abilities, such as a map to display nearby players, or fast reload which last for some time. Maybe a throw knife that gives an anti-heal effect for like 5 sec or so. So many possibilities

[@BitKovin]

It looks amazing. Just curious. Which method of reprojecting viewmodels are you using? I'm changing world offset inside material. I'm curious because this method isn't most comfortable one and requires having view model and world model versions of materials

[@delgoodie]

Check out Panini fov reprojection

[@triq0]

you probably don't like being compared to other games but this looks like a wayyyy better zero g arena, keep up the good work excited to see how far this goes

[@cgspade]

babe wake up delgoodie just dropped a devlog

[@Hobby_Technology]

Changing the FOV but re-projecting the gun in the original FOV is genius!

[@thetacticalman1005]

cant wait for this to blow up

[@alison7767]

As a developer who has released some solo games on Steam and has been studying the market for a few years, I will give my 1 cent of information. Your game has a good differential. It is very common to see many multiplayer games, including those from giant companies, failing. Usually, the game reaches an initial BOOM, but gradually loses players and causes a snowball effect, where queues get longer and more players stop playing, leaving only the few who love the game. So in your place, I would initially focus on a PVE mode, which would probably already take up at least another 1-2 years of development, to then maybe launch an Early Access and promise PVP Multiplayer. So unless your goal is just to try your luck by making a big profit on the initial BOOM, this would be my strategy.

[@Cuddlymonster43]

Your net tick system sounds perfect for making a kill cam

[@crultybro]

the gameplay looks prefect all it really needs is cool graphics and boom you got yourself a best seller

[@jikosauce]

Definitely would play this

[@mr.smoresking2447]

I feel like there should be a out side zone that has moon gravity because of special shoes this would be neat because it would force you to have a disadvantage for people shooting at you from inside or from a balcony Edit: zip lines that you can change direction on into moon gravity zones would be cool

[@warcookie_3052]

I wish I could make my games look as snappy as this. It looks so freakin sick ngl

[@cahydra]

thank goodness for the subtitles, i thought you said: "this is Assbro" x_x

[@funwithforkz]

This looks awesome

[@myster1ou5]

Having the play move back from the recoil of the gun seems realistic

[@pinapear3158]

looks incredible requires some polishing though like making it more smooth and more color and maybe some more maps and differen't game modes like capture the flag

[@BoeBurb]

Also was thinking as a suggestion if you are planning on using jet packs as a means of moving u should consider air thrusters on the arms or legs. Idk I’ve just never seen a game use that before. Wish the best

[@delgoodie]

Thanks, this will definitely be coming in the next vid when we finally make a real character skin and not the mannequin!

[@bhaswardutta4890]

This is cool AF....

[@sudzii1080]

i feel like a gravity weapon of some sort would be cool, like if it hits someone their gravity is restored for a few seconds and they have a chance of taking fall damage

[@kerbalairforce8802]

Shooting someone with an offensive grapple and fling them

[@soycowdoy]

This game seems dope!

[@He4vener]

Recoil should slightly push you to the opposite side of gunfire (depends with weapons, energy type weapons doesn't have recoil unless it creates sort of explosion), alowing sort of "recoil boosting" which is bassically shooting backwards and pushing yourself to the side you wanna go to and also making combat sequences more original and immersive. Ricoshots can be made only with certain type of weapons or ammo and also should have conditions such as type of material being shot and the angle of hit. Also an idea for maps the are happens to be in space or vacume zone where no (or almost no) sounds can be heard and any common firearms cant work due of lack of oxygen for explosions. That will make players change weapons to energy type weapons or any other alternative. Looking forward for this project, looks kinda intresting

[@OversizedPringleToe]

I think you should probably change the crosshair colour, because it blends in with the background.

[@adeplays7684]

Holy crap this game looks awesome

[@Zeke_Calithorne]

I would love this as a vr game

[@creativecipher]

I respect the people that can play this. Just watching made me nauseous. Can't imagine playing

[@lewliteki]

For the bouncing bullets, I read another comment saying only snipers should bounce and I agree with that, but for fun you could make other guns cause a mini explosion on the wall as if the bullet broke on the wall and bits of it fly in different directions. The bullet explosion could have a small radius too so it’s not OP

[@Ian-nl9yd]

Finally, a modern successor to Descent.

[@GhosHawk]

Stupid idea but maybe you can add melee weapons and sidearms and maybe add builds for different weapons to add more depth like modern warfare 2

[@nickr8662]

“Hey the Ripper looks like a cool gun. Wait, where’s the magazine? Is that the magaz-“ *Watches the player model rip the entire handguard off* “Oh god no!”

[@MoBiii_OFFICIAL]

And hope this game performs better than boundary.

[@Do_You_Like_Beans]

i think it would be pretty cool if each gun had a little knock back when fired so you can use it to gain a ton of speed

[@TimeDagar]

Looks like Quake 2 with some fancy physics

[@QUBIQUBED]

This game genuinely looks super fun to play lol