New Honda Metropolitan / Giorno 49cc Scooter Review + Specs | Better than the Ruckus & NAVi?

[@charkswitlazers]

I have a 2022 blue metropolitan. I’ve owned 9 motorcycles, including my current Harley. The metropolitan is my favorite two wheeled machine of all time. I never touch the Harley anymore. There’s something about cheap and lightweight that makes the fun factor explode. It’s been incredibly reliable so far and all I do is hammer on it. I commute 15 miles each way, and put like 450mi on it in the first month of owning it. Lol

[@DRAGNET-pn5vf]

WHAT'S YOUR TOP SPEED, JUST CURIOUS.

[@charkswitlazers]

@@DRAGNET-pn5vf I get an honest 38mph on flat ground. Maybe 39 on a good day. Downhill 41. I’m 6’4” 210lb

[@1966johnnywayne]

I've been riding for three decades and just bought, and rode, my first scooter ever, a 2022 Yamaha BWS (Zuma) 125cc this spring...can't believe I didn't do this sooner. Incredible fuel economy, storage, nimble, easy to park anywhere, easily stays ahead of traffic (125cc), cuts time off my cross city trips and I love the flat open footwell...so easy to get on and off. I envy those that can ride year round...just got our first snow this week.

[@charkswitlazers]

@Paul W.A I have 2500mi of redline/full throttle on mine. No issues thus far.

[@charkswitlazers]

@Paul W.A wow, I had no idea! Aren’t 50cc more environmentally friendly? Or do they emit more because they aren’t regulated as harshly? Thanks for the info. I love little engines. It’ll be a shame to watch them disappear.

[@Terry_1111]

I love these small bikes, especially the fact that the 49cc doesn't require a motorcycle license in my state! The styling and high gas mileage make it a wonderful choice for running around town. Thanks for the excellent review!

[@alexisperez-gonzalez8988]

I’d love to see an electric model of this. The Vespa Elettrica is too high end and doesn’t offer a removable battery for those of us who live in the city. I bet Honda could pull off a basic version with a decent range battery.

[@mightbesherwood1313]

The matte green looks great, but falls short of the green-on-black that other countries get. Black trim gives it a mil-spec look that would give it a new audience.

[@HondaProKevin]

Oh yeah, the black trim definitely gives it a more "manly" color scheme over the cream and brown accents but I don't think it's too girly like some of the others they've done over the years - where no guy is going to ever buy it. I gotta say though, I think I might like this color scheme more than the Japan spec. Maybe ditch the cream for the black trim though and add the black wheels too with the brown seat thrown in the mix? Might look goofy though, need to touch up on my photoshop skills and play around with it since I can't see them both side by side in person.

[@mightbesherwood1313]

@@HondaProKevin A photoshop would be real interesting to see! I feel like Honda’s made some assumptions about who would buy this, and are essentially sitting on it. New ideas might get them thinking!

[@scrambler69-xk3kv]

You want to be seen out there and black may look great sitting there but then you get I'm sorry I did not see you. Give me a bright scooter every time.

[@MotoVania]

Man your really get a sense of how small these things are when you look at just the frame

[@HondaProKevin]

Lol yessir, they're tiny once you strip everything away!

[@johnd9031]

Keep the metro 49cc and $2500. Add some accessories, kickstand, windshield, driver backrest, charging port. Love the green color.

[@benvernick]

Agreed. Love the styling, wish they had an upgraded engine option, a 110 would be perfect. Something to get it up to 55 mph if needed. Mostly for passing and staying ahead of traffic. Clearly not for highway driving. I’m still considering it though being I live in a highly congested metro city. It’s very competitive with Genuine Buddy scooters which do offer the higher engine options….

[@mikebelongia6697]

Supposedly if you remove the restrictor plate and replace air cleaner and exhaust with high air flow after market parts you will get closer to the 55 mph mark. Maybe replacing the carb should increase the speed as well. There are also tuning kits that should help as well. With some upgrades 55 mph probably can be achieved, you might have to replace the piston as well but with the fairly easy replacement parts you should gain speed.

[@chrishowell9587]

I have a 2003 Metropolitan with @4k miles. No insurance or registration. Minimal maintenance. Love this bike! HUGELY underpowered, of course, but that’s what the vibe is! Why cry that it won’t do 40? Take side streets! It can be a commuter. Done it.

[@kellyroyal9579]

Same I have the 2004 or 2005 maybe love it so much and I’m starting to think the guy I bought it from tweaked it cuz it goes 45 mph no problem I find it easy to keep up with most traffic in my city and I live in a pretty big city so it’s been a god send not having to take the bus anymore 😅

[@Winterstick549]

I live halftime in Thailand and the scooter choices between Honda and Yamaha are huge. The 110cc Honda Scoopy has that Metropolitan look and can hit 55mph.

[@jamesgrantham3239]

I’d be all over a Metro 150.

[@davidrivero7943]

Owner of a 2014 Candy Apple Orange pushing 14,000 miles & still a joy for errands and early Sun.morn.rides in Miami.

[@QuasiMotard]

Always great info... thanks, Kevin! 😉👍 --QM

[@HondaProKevin]

Don't know if I'd say "great info" but it's info lol! Appreciate the support as always bud, means a lot ;)

[@gustwowheeling7337]

I have always liked the styling, just wish they could increase engine size. 50cc is to small for my size. Very informative video Kevin, thank you and ride safe.

[@erikwoodward3788]

I wish they would bring over the Scoopy. They would have to change the name but it has the looks of the Metropolitan with a bigger engine, LED's and a front hydraulic front brake.

[@chupacabra5644]

Needed scaling to see if I'd fit in nicely, but seeing YOU can ride it, I feel more confident now lol The only thing is the price I guess. I needed a scooter on the side of my main ride because it's incredibly impossible to get another car just because I need some ride... but seeing the Metropolitan price keep going up while I'm struggling to pay for monthly struggles (like unexpected events) it's really putting me down lol I'll get there someday, but this is really hard to catch up.

[@bign1667]

Oh man we need these in Australia they look so nice.

[@neelsahay3585]

the dark green JDM metro looks so sick

[@leeball4]

Accessories! Aftermarket support is the biggest upgrade Honda can make to these. It's so infuriating that they already have all these great add-ons but they don't bring them stateside. I guess the argument is there isn't a market here, but it's kind of hard to have a market if there's nothing to buy.

[@delbomb3131]

Even though I don't want a bigger engine, i think they should have options. Really the lack of options is what's holding me back. Like no front brake upgrade or anything else is kind of a bummer. I can understand having a cheap base model, but give those of us willing to spend the option to do so

[@gerrynightingale9045]

*Honda's buyers in other Countries dont want the disc-brake because it's diffcult to maintain it yourself...so Honda doesn't offer it* *Since Honda set the weight limit of 175lbs. and it's a solo-rider machine, the drum-brakes are fine* _____________ *I'm 230bs. and waaaaay over the factory specs. but my '08 handles it just fine for amost 6-years now of grocery-toting on the floorpan in bags and a duffel w/a strap over my shoulder for frozen stuff* *Never lost anything yet* *There is a steel-mesh basket offered behind the fairing (I have one) and an after-market windscreen that fits and looks perfect as well*

[@rlpnuncius]

Increase the engine displacement to 80 cc, add fuel injection and a front disc brake.

[@HondaProKevin]

I like your thinking! However, I'd like to see a slightly larger engine squeezed in there so she could at least hit around 55ish mph and hold it up hill etc. That'd really open up some doors for people that love this styling but can't get past that 35-40 mph mark they're at now. I know there's still a market for these 49cc models due to certain licensing laws etc but I think keeping them that size is really restricting possible sales.

[@rlpnuncius]

Kevin, my reasoning on an 80 cc fuel injected motor was for better acceleration from traffic at stop lights. I personally would not feel at ease riding this small scooter at 55 mph. I one time owned the 2010 Honda elite 110 cc scooter and it was a very good bike, but with my six foot one inch height and 210 lb weight and a top speed of 48 mph I felt the stability was questionable with those small tires. But then again it could just be me as an older(70 something) inexperienced rider😎

[@mightbesherwood1313]

@@rlpnuncius Had similar thoughts. At that point, you'd be better off with some sort of retro-PCX.

[@tatumcalloway4980]

@@HondaProKevin would you ever be able to modify these to put a bigger engine in there?

[@wileecoyote5749]

It has fuel injection

[@enduroxplorer]

The 50cc is perfect, nothing needs to be changed. If Honda offered a 100 cc version (in addition to the 50cc) that had the same looks, chassis, etc it would help those who need a bit more speed to keep up with the faster streets. I like it as is, it is fun to find routes that do not require more speed.

[@scrambler69-xk3kv]

Yes, I live just outside of town with a 35mph road between me and the city. Problem is most people travel about fourty five and I would just piss people off with this thing.

[@kellyroyal9579]

I think the guy who sold me his must have worked on it mines the older model but it goes 45 easy up to at least 63 ish mph was the fastest the speedometer said it ropes out at only paid 600$ for it too its my second bike ever and I’m in love with it lol I hated all bikes in general before I got this 😅😂😂

[@markmeador1137]

I think they should offer a 70cc or 80cc option. If this scoot would do at least 40mph it would be a lot more practical and the Genuine Rough house will do 50mph with a 50cc 2 stroke motor but I love the styling of the Metro.

[@scrambler69-xk3kv]

It just looks like such a fabulous scooter. The fit and finish is like a jewel.

[@Moondoggy1941]

Again thanks for getting right to the price.

[@HondaProKevin]

Yessir and I had you on my mind when I had the price squeezed in before that 60 second mark lol ;)

[@Moondoggy1941]

@@HondaProKevin You know I was watching too, LOL Yes I have sub'd I am sorry have you done a review on the Monkey yet?

[@HondaProKevin]

Thank you for returning and subbing too, I really appreciate the support bud! Oh yeah, I've got you covered when it comes to Monkeys lol! Here's my review on the new Monkey: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZDapWSFhNxli8k And then, here are 3 super cool new Monkeys that have been highly modified and are worth checking out, in my unbiased opinion of course lol: • kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmG7iXV9pd2hj7s • kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmG2pqaei7l8aMk • kzbin.info/www/bejne/b2GVqpudbtKkbJY

[@Moondoggy1941]

@@HondaProKevin Thanks I just watched it, I am bummed it does not come in blue, maybe if I can find a used blue one I will get it, my dad bought a old monkey back in the 70's I rode the heck out of it, I would go up hills that guys in RM's would say you will never make it, I just say: watch. I want to ride it at the beach, old Coast Hwy.

[@williamllorens2141]

Agree with your views and final thoughts. Nice little scooter ❤

[@lamina666]

I put 16,000km (10,000 miles) in 2 years on one of these. A 2013 red and white. I ride a big adventure bike now but I miss my Giorno.

[@smallnuts2]

I wish you could buy online. I hate going to dealerships.

[@losxlakers]

Is the Navi cheaper and has a higher top speed than the Metropolitan?

[@daryljt66]

I have a 2009 Metropolitan, I love it, but I'd like to see it reach 50 mph so I can use it to ride to my dr. appointments. 55 mph would be even better.

[@user-mn9xu9fb1o]

I really wish Honda would come out with a 100cc Metropolitan. Add a 12 inch front wheel.

[@Sam-ee1jo]

I was curious why you have the license plate for a 49cc scooter? Is it so you can be highway legal or is it your particular state requirement? Really cool build on this scooter.

[@N8RTH]

Problem: 2018 with 700 miles. Acceleration is normal up to about 20mph then it struggles to hit its 38mph top speed. Air filter is clean, oil changed and it was worse before I put fuel system cleaner in it. Any ideas on what to check? Could it be just bad gas? Thanks!

[@k7map]

Given the frame size, the options need to be a 50, a 70 and a 90. Just like the Cub of old. If the thing could hold 45MPH it would open up way more suburban road options.

[@Winterstick549]

Honda makes several 110cc Scooters but it's a shame they are not offered in the USA. Same with Yamaha.

[@timothyroche6445]

wish they made a scooter with 3 wheels for added safety !

[@philmiller8001]

The new 150cc Giorno+ that has just been launched in Thailand would be nice to see here in Canada!

[@BlackNAVYAmericanVET]

Hondas engine on this is…..💯. Reliable time and time again .

[@terrykeil6751]

We have so many different Honda motorcycles here in Thailand and at half the price. I bought my Honda ct125 here for $2600 out the door. I just change oil yesterday at the Honda shop for $3.90..labor is very cheap.

[@timdupont3227]

Just bought my partner the 2023 Honda Giorno for a Christmas gift. Hope she likes it 😁

[@andy5786]

Awesome video of honda metropolitan 50 cc scooter like 👏👍🇬🇧

[@HondaProKevin]

Thank you! Really appreciate the kind words and you take the time to watch bud ;)

[@AtelierEphraim]

Do you think two person can fit in there? I'm 5'6" and my wife is 4'11"

[@1972mercurycougar]

Update us on the Dax USA news!! Please!!

[@davidvaldez6241]

I’m 6’1 .. 280lbs .. will this work for me ?

[@johndefalque5061]

I love the look of the Giorno!

[@bobrice102]

Good reviews!

[@Prog-t9d]

Great video thanks for review

[@bagels147.]

Do you think this would be good for a beginner

[@dinospumoni8860]

Man that green is sharp. May have to pick one up for shits and giggles

[@BlackNAVYAmericanVET]

I think it’s perfect the color changes are great , The 1950s color theme , Was due for an update,

[@dinospumoni8860]

Larger engine means you need a motorcycle endorsement for it. Not had to get but I’m sure scares most people off

[@iamirish4361]

I love the colour and don't think the black accents look better but that is a personal thing. I had a Yamaha BWS 50 which was stellar in looks and performance (but for the dumb double-headlight) and was too slow. I now have a Vespa Primavera 150. I am stopped virtually every ride from people wanting to admire it, know how much it cost, whether you need a motorcycle license, etc. Honda needs a retro 150cc. Don't buy a 50cc as it is especially poor on hills. May as well get an electric bike.

[@MegaCangrii]

Disk brakes would be a plus.

[@ClaudRodr]

Love the looks and quality. Had a Honda Jazz (Canadian name for the older, 2005 Metropolitan) and did like it a lot. The problem is, even for city driving running errands, a top speed in the 35-40MPH (54-64Km/h) becomes a huge liability in my opinion. It is almost dangerous and I live in a place where most people are civilized LOL. That is the main issue with the Metropolitan: the lack of a bigger engine. Throw the same 160cc found on other Honda scooters and they will have a huge winner in their hands. That is why I ended up upsizing to an Yamaha Vino 125 later. Way safer as it can get to 60MPH with no issues. But then, for my needs (wanting to do longer trips, highway etc) I ended up getting a Vespa 300 that can do 75MPH all day long. I would not recommend a 50cc to anyone, no matter where you live or what you do; it is just not safe around drivers, especially when they go into road rage mode as you are too slow for any road.

[@1966johnnywayne]

Agreed. I've been riding for three decades and just bought, and rode, my first scooter ever, a 2022 Yamaha BWS (Zuma) 125cc this spring...can't believe I didn't do this sooner. Incredible fuel economy, huge storage, nimble, easy to park anywhere, easily stays ahead of traffic, cuts time off my cross city trips 😁 and I love the flat open footwell...so easy to get on and off. I may upsize down the road, but for now my F150 takes me down the 400 series highways just fine.

[@christophersmith1155]

I LOVE DCT AND CVT SYSTEMS. NOW I CAN USE A BIKE IN THE CITY . NO JOY CHANGING GEARS IN MANHATTAN.

[@birybenjamin3522]

Nice design for the metropolitan

[@ih8jeeps]

We've had two models of fuel injected Giorno's in our working Fleet and had stalling/ no start issues with both the air cooled and liquid cooled. I believe they were 2015's and 2016's. Our tech's couldn't figure it out as it was intermitant and wouldn't act up for us. We took a liquid cooled model to the dealer and they couldn't fix it either. Does anybody know if any of these issues have been solved on the new models? We'd like to go back to them due to their high weight capacity.

[@darkblade612]

The price needs to be around 1000 something dollars it’s not like it’s a Honda elite

[@suecarter7136]

make it 125cc efi with a front disc brake. This would make it a better around town bike that could keep up with traffic up to 50 mph.

[@genc8165]

Does DMV gave you an M1 or M2 in California if you pass the test? I also have this Honda Metropolitan

[@mkshffr4936]

Weight limit? This is perfect as is for Indiana where we have a 49cc limit.

[@stevegelman7838]

Hi thank you for the great video and information I really like this bike I don't have a motorcycle license and I have no intention of getting anyone and where I live I do not need a motorcycle license for a 49cc scooter just a regular license so this would be perfect for me I do a lot of driving my job is 20 miles each way so 40 miles round trip if I keep up the maintenance on the scooter will this be okay to do that type of distance not on highway on regular streets because right now all they have is a bicycle and this will help out a lot thank you and looking forward to your reply

[@LaBambaCL]

is the seat long enuf for two?

[@tony-ce7qp]

you do a very good job...honda should pay you.

[@JHJohnson]

I am looking for something to put around town and run small errands to save a few miles on my truck. I need just a little storeage for running to the store, a little bit more horsepower would be good but I don’t want to get a motorcycle license so I want to stay under that

[@JHJohnson]

@@MrMoneyHelper thank you. I am going Friday to test drive one

[@oknevals]

Cute lil thing.

[@BigUnk85]

What is the weight limit on these? Im 6' 323

[@aust4105]

It's strange to me how they started off with liquid cooled until 2009, 2013-2015 got air cooled, and now in 2023 they are back to liquid cooled.

[@jpp757]

Hi Kevin, in the video you mention Honda Accessories from other countries if you are willing to do the legwork. Where would I start? I’m willing to put in the effort, I just don’t know where to go. I’m trying to find a side stand for my wife’s 2022 Honda Metropolitan. Honda dealer says nothing is available factory or aftermarket. I’m Googling it and nothing is coming up. I’d be happy to wait for something to ship from overseas, I just am out of my depth on where to start.

[@mightbesherwood1313]

Try Honda Giorno - that’s what it’s called in other markets.

[@willyjimmy8881]

Isn't this also called the Scoopy in some southeast asian markets?

[@kevinbeck6419]

They should put disc brakes on the front an a true 400 cc engine on it I'd pay more for that

[@ArneAsada69]

That extended swingarm is ridiculous.

[@Qkudzu]

What is the country of origin for the Honda Metropolitan?

[@robbchastain3036]

Thanks for showing this to us, Kevin, and I don't really have a say either way, tho' it looks perfect for its niche and I like its modern take on the classic Italian scooters. And more power would mean more money and it is probably three-grand out the door now and that seems like a reasonable price.

[@Cognitiveleaper]

I wonder if it actually goes 40 mph.

[@Berindei_Stefan]

the 2023 metropolitan has a one piece steel frame?

[@HondaProKevin]

Correct. When they went from the CHF50 chassis code to the NCH50, it went from aluminum to steel (among other changes).

[@Berindei_Stefan]

@@HondaProKevin Thanks for the info and btw in your oppinion can you give me some scooters 50cc ones that are very durable for food delivery , i've heard kymco agility 50cc and piaggio liberty 50cc are good options , thanks in advance

[@Berindei_Stefan]

@@MrMoneyHelper thanks for the answer

[@hilariohernandez]

Show it with a 5'8" rider as well.

[@Mochalumpia]

Can someone please explain to me if this is a moped or scooter? A dealership I called told me it was a moped and that I would need a motorcycle license. Although, when I did research a regular license will suffice to drive a moped in Arizona. I just want to know if this is considered a moped, scooter or both?

[@MrMoneyHelper]

Moped means it has pedals that can be used to propel it like a bicycle (MOtor PEDal). Some states mis-label small motorcycles with 49 cc engines with no shifting as mopeds. If it doesn't have pedals it isn't a moped.

[@t.m9341]

better than a navi 100+ cc?

[@jauxed]

Change? The price...no scooter should cost more than $2k :(

[@ivanjunev8716]

Not for Europe.No Japanese company with 50cc scooter in Europe at all here only peugeot and piaggio

[@jerrycarter1928]

125cc FI engine and front disc brake. Then, it would be a better all riding option less highway surfaces. 50cc is too limiting.

[@wileecoyote5749]

Needs L.E.D. lighting. Halogen is dated.

[@kevinirvine8038]

Japan color way better!!

[@chrismanning217]

Ya even a 125 version for 3k

[@44_xiie_debrajbordoloi27]

Please someone tell Honda company to launch this in India ! I AM BEGGING EVERYONE ! PLEASE .... HERE , THE FUEL PRICES ARE KILLING MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE'S POCKETS 😑😐

[@MongIAMTauYah]

It says 49cc but why does it say 50cc

[@tabbat3328]

I couldn't listen all the way thru. It just sounded like the guy was TRYING TO BE LOUD AND CLEAR. Like shouting his words or something. Even on low volume

[@ace2125]

Do you really have to talk like that because it's youtube?

[@comepuchas990]

10.17.22 no ww3

[@jamestubb1949]

Need 160 power

[@user-er5jw1fz5h]

Vespa

[@blusnuby2]

I`d pay $4k for a Metropolitan with fuel injection, 2 discs & the 125cc engine. Liked previous year`s enamel colors much better than 2022`s.

[@wileecoyote5749]

It has fuel injection already

[@Elsenordeloscerros1981]

4.11.23

[@krisvenema]

It’s infuriating these only come in 49cc.

[@eggbenedict-gt7mw]

This should be priced $300 in india or else it's a fail like the navi 😂😂😂😂

[@Gumsandals]

Doesn't look passenger friendly.

[@perry92964]

unless you live in a city this is a complete waste of money, if you live out in the sticks just buy a motorcycle

[@jacla666]

Sounds like the child of Jordan Peterson.

[@rueben44]

OMG I have to stop the video because of that tone that seems forced in the voice.

[@secondtimeround]

Why, why, why on God's earth is this not available with a disc brake and a 125/150cc engine? Unless you live in a particular region where 50cc allows unregistered use; this is pretty much a turd.

[@AhPan]

My ears get tired from listening to your video after 3 mins.