New Idea 5209 discbine cutter bar rebuild pt.1

[@maxmoo3275]

Well done! Awesome job. That's how to make a DIY video. Sooner or later I've got to do this with our 5209.

[@dustinadams9136]

Thank you!

[@raymondw7875]

Great video! I appreciate the detailed explanation and step by step demonstration. This is exactly what I needed and, until now, have been unable to find.

[@dustinadams9136]

Your very welcome Raymond that’s exactly why I made it, I couldn’t eather. Thanks for watching and good luck. If you have any more questions just get ahold of me I’ll help if I can.

[@localcrew]

That was very informative. Just subscribed! A great way to use parts books is to search the part number for hits on eBay. Great for old equipment. 👍

[@dustinadams9136]

Thanks for subscribing, glad you liked it. I did that to for 2 years since I don’t cut a ton of acres with it but I will be doing the annual checks from now on! The shop manual and parts book were the best investments I could have made, I would have been lost with out them!

[@groundedinreal]

Thanks for making this. Thinking of buying one, this helps.

[@dustinadams9136]

Not a bad mower, doesn’t take much h.p. to run them and parts aren’t hard to source for them.

[@GosselinFarmsEdGosselin]

Hey.. that looks like a cutter bar rebuild!! Lol.. good to see it going back together 👍 thanks for the video!!

[@dustinadams9136]

Gosselin Farms Ed Gosselin hi Ed! Yup it’s done, cut about 14 acres this afternoon for the guys just down the road. Ran good. Hope everything is going good for you and the family, stay safe and thanks for watching. Always appreciate it!

[@GosselinFarmsEdGosselin]

@@dustinadams9136 I knew you would get it fixed! Glad it's working good!! We are doing.. lol.. playing catch-up on a few things, falling behind on others.. you know, farming.. Hope all is well with you and yours!! Thank you!! I appreciate your videos 👍

[@shaneholst6940]

You made a great video on the how to do !! That's going to help someone out sometime!! Great video! 👌

[@dustinadams9136]

Shane Holst. Thanks Shane I wasn’t all that happy with the video quality but when I looked for any videos on how to do it there wasn’t hardly anything out there.

[@maxhenry6628]

Very good video, thank for helping others and me.

[@dustinadams9136]

Your welcome glad it helped, thanks for checking it out! If you have any questions Don’t know if I could answer them but I’d try.

[@Heimerviewfarm]

I like the idea about buying a manual everytime you buy something.

[@dustinadams9136]

Midwest Allis Acres it sure saved my ass on this deal for sure! Used it today, nothing flew out at me anyway haha.

[@markassink8552]

Looks like a Lely mower, i guess its completely metric? Have a disc mower torn apart that's looks awfully similar.

[@michiganhay7844]

That’s a good video I’m gonna be doing same thing on my New Holland

[@dustinadams9136]

Thanks Ray. I just couldn’t find any videos on the new Idea mowers that showed much or explained anything. I appreciate you watching and look forward to your video on the new Holland!

[@coreydevries9438]

Thats a real nice video! I have a grey ghost model 5209 and its starting to get more then ideal play in the end turtle been a nice mower but not gonna lie bit hesitant to tear into it this close to season!

[@dustinadams9136]

Thanks for watching, I hope it was helpful! At the very least I would say pull the tops off and check the grease level and when the top is open it lets you see the bearings also. Being yours is gray like mine I’d guess it has one long hex shaft running the full length of the bar to drive the gears. If there’s anything I can help with just get hold of me, good luck.

[@coreydevries9438]

@@dustinadams9136 is it possible to flip the long shat around or is it the slide gears that get the wear in them?

[@dustinadams9136]

@@coreydevries9438 as long as it hasn’t gotten bent or wound up it should slide out the end and be able to be flipped around. The shaft should be softer than the gears and do most of the wearing. The replacement I got from a machine shop wasn’t very costly so if it showed much wear I’d replace the shaft.

[@coreydevries9438]

@@dustinadams9136 ok thanks I will get it pulled out and run it to local machine shop and see if they can get one and replace it! Thanks for taking the time to reply.

[@dustinadams9136]

@@coreydevries9438 anytime, if have any more questions just get ahold of me. Good luck!

[@cole4449]

I just had to do this. I didn’t find this until after but it is fairly simple it just takes a while.

[@dustinadams9136]

I agree, at first I was kinda scared to rip into it but after reading the manual a couple times it didn’t go to bad

[@arlinemacneil2731]

I hate the fact those 4 cap screws that hold the cutter top gear into their individual housings are threaded into those tiny miniscule outcroppings of metal only a couple threads. Over the years the outside units took most abuse. We drilled straight through clamping it together with threaded rod. We had to grind a little of the nuts on the bottom to accommodate both the shoes being mounted. Those 4 screw holes exemplifies engineering at its worst. The segmented drive shafts didn't save that much money when one was rounded off.

[@dustinadams9136]

Yes I agree the 4 screws are a very bad choose, seems to want to break the casting out if you hit something. Thanks for watching and commenting, your idea of changing out the bolts sounds interesting!

[@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754]

good explanation!

[@dustinadams9136]

Thanks Jon! I just hope maybe it will help someone out that doesn’t know what to do to fix there’s. Thanks for watching!

[@charles-andretremblay3217]

How tight does the nut on top of the gearbox have to be?

[@nialmurray2568]

Thank you.

[@robertstuart1365]

What’s the trick to get the cutter bar separated from the gearbox? I have everything loose and can move the gear at about 1/4” out of the gearbox, but can’t fully separate. Help?!?!?

[@dustinadams9136]

Are you meaning on the main drive gear box that the pto runs into?

[@robertstuart1365]

@@dustinadams9136 I’m trying to pull the entire cutter bar out. It will pull slightly from the gearbox, but I can’t get it to fully release.

[@dustinadams9136]

@@robertstuart1365 when you slide it try to figure out if the hex shaft is coming out with it or if it’s stuck in the gearbox. My shaft had gotten spon in the coupler and I had to free it to be able to move it. Or pull the end cap off the outer end and remove the hex shaft all together then the only thing connecting the cutter bar and box should be the bolts. I’ll pull the book out study it alittle more.

[@robertstuart1365]

@@dustinadams9136 I got it! Thanks for your help!

[@dustinadams9136]

@@robertstuart1365 no problem, what ended up being the problem?

[@tinasprong9354]

I have a 5209 and I went to cut hay and the rollers work and turn but the cutters aren't turning to cut

[@dustinadams9136]

Everything is driven off the left side or main gear box, possibly the hex shaft spun in the coupler at the gear box. Not positive though.

[@Sergeant1001]

I can’t find part 2 of the repair. I’m tearing mine apart and holy crap there is a lot of pieces and mine had a lot of rust. There is no one that has a video of taking the octagon shaft out.

[@dustinadams9136]

You take the outer pod apart on the right end , if the shaft isn’t twisted or bent it just slides out otherwise it has to be cut out in pieces. Message me on fb and I can try to send you pictures of the parts book tomorrow

[@dustinadams9136]

I just looked at my videos in my history and it was there under New Idea 5209 cutter bar repair pt2 or something.

[@Sergeant1001]

I was going to send you some pics but I can’t find you on Facebook.

[@dustinadams9136]

@@Sergeant1001 my cell is 641 220 2079

[@maxhenry6628]

where can you still get parts at? 5212

[@dustinadams9136]

I got some from a company called The Discbine Doctor, had pretty much everything. I found the gear box case on line used and there’s shoup supply for more general stuff otherwise any Agco dealer has or could get everything, the new Massey Ferguson ones are basically the same machine. What are you needing?