New Improvements to Android's Desktop Mode Demoed, Set for Android 15?

[@TheTytan007]

I would love be able to access full ChromeOS experience on any Android flagship. I doubt it'll happen any time soon, but one can dream.

[@DJMetro69]

Yeah that would kinda kill the Chromebook but yeah one can dream.

[@TheTytan007]

@@DJMetro69 Nah, normal Chromebooks would be fine. It's not like people are running everywhere with Dex. They would coexist

[@shitalsawant1973]

​@@TheTytan007 Chromebooks are Weaker than Midrange Android Phones, everyone wil prefer Android's Desktop Mod over Chromebooks

[@TheTytan007]

@@shitalsawant1973 You know there are Chromebooks with Intel Core chips, right?

[@ChrisSkipper-lh2go]

No one knows if Google is going to use this or ChromeOS KVM which EXISTS btw based on a tech demo at IO24. Google denied this being a consumer product they said they were only demoing and playing selling with a technical feature and the OS new capabilities. So if that's the case then, how is this unfinished Android variant not just a developer playground. It's just like when Sony says they will have ubiquitous subscription catalog PS5 cloud gaming through Web browsers when they're gonna restrict it to consoles and handhelds. I don't believe Sony says and I don't believe what Google says. This is the developer mode playground for testing floating Windows on Android it's very unfinished as you can see and always has been and will be hard to maintain along slate phone and two versions of chromeOS one for arm and the other for x86. I doubt this would be the desktop mode external monitor solution for Android, ChromeOS KVM will be and you can substitute it with Windows 11 for $140 or you can use chroot for Ubuntu/Fedora. Look at Sony they will never have or keep up with enough infrastructure to support anyone on Android who pays for their highest cost subscription unlike Microsoft who has the technology and infrastructure they need and is much more capable of keeping up with it.

[@KrisRogos]

I would say Android 16 or even 17 is more likely for 2 reasons: - we are close to feature freeze for Androind 15 and there is a lot more work that needs to happen to make this a good experience - delaying release until after Pixel 7 and Fold 1 are no longer receiving new Android versions means they can ship it too all Pixels and avoid any confusion on why it is not working on the older models.

[@Amndeep7]

My mom has really been enjoying the small form factor and 'tablet-ness' of the Microsoft Surface Pro 7 that I got her a couple years back. She's not doing anything complicated on it that couldn't be done by a phone, but it helps that it's larger. It'd be great if I could just give her a new phone and a portable, touch-screen monitor and say 'click this when you want to use the big screen' and be able to call it a day instead of having to give her a phone and also an entire computer that she now needs to get familiar with, update, install applications securely on, etc. So long as the UI for this Android desktop mode is more or less as intuitive as the UI for a phone, it'd be a far better experience for her.

[@roylink]

I don't get why we just have a Chromebook as the desktop mode. Just because I would think Google would benefit from supporting 1 OS instead of multiple.

[@yxles]

If that would be the case then Chromebooks sales would plummet since it wouldn't make sense owning one

[@kizanko]

​@@yxles If anything if they made Android laptops they could do much more. But maybe that would make it more expensive

[@kahlur]

​@@yxlesA decade on and ChromeOS still has a limited use case. Better just improve Android to have a better desktop experience

[@Windows__2000]

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[@shiro214okane]

Wished there is a way to install dex in other android devices.

[@HenriquePiologo]

How can Google do such a half-assed job even though it's a beta version? They have had this desktop mode proposal in beta since Android 10. Granted, the external screen previously didn't work independently of the phone's main screen. I hope they really make this project live a long life, especially because, for tablets, an experience as close as possible to the Desktop is ideal for use. I'm here writing directly from my DEX, it's not perfect yet, but for my use I've already dispensed with my Desktop PC.

[@scaryifliteral]

This isn't a beta or a proposal though.

[@cravatenoire3269]

GOOGLE's really sketchy when it comes to Android Desktop Mode

[@stefenleung]

not many people know but back before the Huawei ban. Hauwei phone have their own's Dex version "Huawei Desktop" too. It's exactly and imo more advanced then Dex at time (IDK now as it's been a few years I didn't have a Huawei phone). The recent Huawei HarmonyOS 4.2 completely remove the google code and supposed to be open source so we will expect all Chinese phones will be turning to HarmonyOS and have the Huawei Desktop function. Maybe that's why.

[@cravatenoire3269]

the chinese probably have a pocket trigger to launch a Virtual smartphone to whereever you are for a bare minimum monthly rental by now, let alone a polished Desktop Mode

[@a1000island]

I read an article that says if you side load the beta on the pixel 8s and Force desktop mode in developer options it works But the same article says it has briked some phones as well

[@cravatenoire3269]

TY for the video. hope more preachers on this topic would push google to at least announce their stance soon, be it negetive or positive

[@CF542]

It's all well and good to finally have video out on a Pixel device, however why does it only apply to the Pixel 8 Pro? Did they forget about their $1,800 foldable?

[@scaryifliteral]

This only applies to devices that have the physical hardware to do this, which the Pixel Fold does not.

[@the987abc]

Tough, very tough… :(

[@cravatenoire3269]

​​@@scaryifliteralFollowing sub $200 Motorola connects to PC/Laptop via Ready for & to TV/External displays via Moto connect feature WIRELESSLY 1) Moto g84 - SD 695 5g 2) Moto g85 - SD 6s Gen 3 Although not as polished as maybe in a S20 DEX, it works pretty good. So assuming it would be way better with USB C with video out (as in a pixel 8), if not wonders considering the price range

[@scotts.7662]

Great, So now for all of us with Pixel 6s & 7s will we need a chromecast to use desktop mode with Android 14beta & 15? Would a USBc cable from the phone to a chomecast USBc, to skip using wifi, then the CC plugged to a HDMI monitor work?would it reduce lag for us Pixel 6 & 7 users? I have ordered the Nexdock XL & want to use my P6 until it no longer updates. Thank you!

[@cravatenoire3269]

there are convertor cables available. (hdmi to usb c (to phone) & usb A (to power hdmi driver) a screensharing app will share it to External DIsplay via the connected cables. Rem testing it on a few basic android phones

[@x0vg5hs1]

It's over for Google. They are out of their mind. All they had to do was to fork Chromebook shel and port it to android environment.

[@ahmad_sakhi_2197]

I hope more like dex

[@shiro214okane]

The only one that works is for desktop is samsung dex and lg screen+ on lg v50s, lg v60 and lg wing. I can't tell for Motorola since i don't own motorola android device.

[@4techdell389]

Motorola has ready for mode, very useful option can use even in 4k resolution

[@shiro214okane]

​@@4techdell389 yeah was contemplating getting the motorola thinkphone or motorola edge+ 2023 or wait for motorola edge+ 2024 model to be released. quite hard to get here in my country.

[@cravatenoire3269]

Following sub $200 Motorola connects to PC/Laptop via Ready for & Moto connect features WIRELESSLY 1) Moto g84 - SD 695 5g 2) Moto g85 - SD 6s Gen 3 (both a Sub 600,000 geek bench score though) Although not as polished as maybe in a S20 DEX, it works pretty good. So assuming it would be way better with USB C with video out (as in a pixel 8), if not wonders considering the price range

[@Cyril29a]

While android desktop is wonderful I have been using Microsoft remote desktop on my phone connected to a display keyboard and mouse since 2013 and it has totally replaced my need for a laptop. Now with dex it is even easier to use as I don't need wires between my phone and the display. Dex style systems are cool but remote desktop over a fast internet connection is just fantastic.

[@nickthaskater]

The issue/concern with the remote desktop solution is that your device is merely a terminal, you aren't accessing the apps you are otherwise using daily nor the data associated with them. You're relying on an internet connection and file synching, which is problematic at best. A local solution is the way to go wherever possible for ease of use and reliability.

[@Cyril29a]

@@nickthaskater You are accessing your office network and all the data stays at the office. You security is as strong as your vpn and your performance is as fast as your mobile network will allow. Both of thse issues have been solved over a decade ago and I simply do not understand why anyone would not be using this solution until microsoft decides to build a way to run desktop apps on your mobile phone over dex

[@nickthaskater]

@@Cyril29a I wasn't speaking to security or performance. I was speaking to the fact that network reliability isn't perfect and synching issues, especially with Microsoft products, are far too common to take for granted. Working with local applications that don't require network connectivity and local files which don't rely on being synched is always preferred. With a remote connection, you also lose the ability to just close and go and pick up where you left off right on your phone without needing to remote back in to access the files/application. Having spent many years working with thin clients and remote desktops, I would never voluntarily work in such an environment if a local/native alternative were available.

[@Cyril29a]

@@nickthaskater I don't know what country you live in but I have zero issues working remote, in Canada the latency is low enough that it is indistinguishable from a local connection for nearly all office style tasks and having a full windows environment trumps the clunky linux/android solutions even if they are local

[@nickthaskater]

@Cyril29a I live in Canada, too. No problem assuming there's no power outage or network issue or that you're not working in a remote location without a good signal. Connection aside, the point about having to go back into your remote session just to do a thing still stands rather than being able to simply unlock your phone and get back to work where you left off.

[@fragerhoskin3528]

I myself really don’t think it’s gonna work all that too well and I believe Google will probably stop working on it and kill it because the simple fact is most people nowadays don’t use computer every year that number is getting smaller and smaller

[@ChunkyLoverMark]

When you say computer do you mean desktop? They'll always be a need for a mouse and keyboard computer, every office job in the world relies on them and that doesn't take into account PC gamers and people that edit photo and video. That's not done on a tablet or phone.

[@BensTechTube]

DeX! Just DeX!😅

[@ps3301]

Apple has forced google to have this feature as ipad has desktop mode too.