New *incredible* mac OS terminal! (warp + starship + zsh)

[@stridexr]

Just an FYI for anyone interested, Warp forces you to create an account to collect telemtry data

[@JarppaGuru]

yeah current make money plan. lets not support

[@julsstefano7729]

they created this tool only for the fancy pants people

[@victornoagbodji]

it forces account creation and phones home? 🤔not good...

[@atom6_]

Too bad, really looks nice, but login for a terminal is pure garbage.

[@surajsilva]

Why do you need a login to capture Telemetry data? There are plenty of other ways to establish uniqueness of user or device to understand telemetry patterns. Real pity too, as this product is so good that people would happily pay for it. I used it for a real short time and I now feel like the old terminal is terrible. Drop the login or come up with a better reason for the login.

[@owlmostdead9492]

Forced login for a terminal app? Yeah DOA project. What's next a subscription so I can cd into my home folder?

[@nilpo]

They have upcoming subscriptions...so maybe!

[@koolaids6609]

@@nilpo i wonder if theyll have vim warranties...

[@dannelalbert7111]

Agreed. Definitely why I have not used it. Login is a non-starter.

[@samvimes2393]

I don’t have problem with paying for application but login to my terminal is to much.

[@nomad100hd]

You should have lead with they require a login. That automatically makes Warp a no go for me.

[@nilpo]

Agreed. No mention of that is pretty shady.

[@homelessbag]

@@Batwam0 open source applications are not only free, but free to modify and distribute...i have NEVER had to log in to use a terminal...use alacritty or kitty :)

[@TheNameOfJesus]

Yup. I will make a mental note to never use this product and never trust any product from this company. Ever.

[@pickabar]

Thank you for saving me the time I would have wasted on this.

[@sheldonkerr]

Agreed. Dog shit.

[@doctorfree]

Warp looks cool but it's currently closed source. At the point in time when it is open source, available for both Linux and Mac, and stops forcing telemetry I will give it a try. In the mean time, Kitty is awesome, works on Linux and Mac, has features up the wazoo, does not force telemetry, and I know it pretty well. Some other terminal is going to have to be pretty darn great to get me to move off Kitty.

[@rogerhonacki5610]

Terminals also need to run on the most minimal architectures, like the raspberry pi, etc. In fact that’s the real reason for a terminal.

[@Jianju69]

@@rogerhonacki5610 Warp is written in Rust. It can almost certainly target RPi.

[@bryanhobson1822]

Looks amazing, downloaded it straight away, I was excited as a kid in a sweetshop, after install it's forcing me to login, and tells me it shares telemetry data. I can't tell you how much I'm both amazed and disappointed at the same time. I'll keep an eye on the project, but right now it's crossing a line for me, so I'll be giving it a miss for now. Great video though, many thanks.

[@christianlempa]

Thanks mate :) As far as I understand their docs it is part of their beta program and will be opt in once released. But hey, we will see.

[@Uli2000Ger]

@@christianlempa it takes me hours to secure my servers an then i switch to a terminal from someone i dont now who read my data? 🤣

[@gianni_schicchi]

@@Uli2000Ger You’d think they’d know their audience better. I’ll stick with iTerm and tmux

[@TheNameOfJesus]

@@christianlempa Opt-in is not good enough to solve the problem. Even if it was opt-in, I would still tell everyone never to use it. A company has to earn my trust, and what they are doing here is earning my DISTRUST.

[@matthewcullum2455]

@@TheNameOfJesus agreed. Was excited to try it until I realized it requires login Privacy issues aside, on a purely technical level I couldn't imagine working offline and being prompted by my terminal to login. No thanks.

[@seanmatheson3969]

FYI, you can enable the Starship prompt customisation via the following within Warp: Cmd + P > Open Settings > Features > Honor user's custom prompt (PS1) setting

[@daniiltuneev3123]

Thank you! You really saved my time! Please upvote this guy

[@justicefreeman6598]

Thanks! I was looking for this!

[@furkanturkal8414]

THANKS! You just saved my life...

[@csilv]

As others have said, the forced account and forced telemetry data make this a security nightmare. I'll take another look when this comes out of beta, but it certainly leaves a poor impression. Sometimes companies don't recover from these type of self-inflicted mistakes.

[@EvanZamir]

From the website: "When Warp comes out of beta, all telemetry will be 100 % opt-in, since Warp will be a fully fleshed out product at that time."

[@AmexL]

@@EvanZamirnd we know tech companies are 100% trustworthy when they give the option to “opt-in” - no way they wouldn’t violate those who don’t, right? 😂

[@docdigit4639]

Pls be aware that you have to login to Warp before you can use the app. This is a reason I won't use it. Terminal logins are secret for the purpose that they serve. Sharing any (login) information is a big nono for me. I do know that any app can forward information about any kind of key activities but for this moment i pass...

[@christianlempa]

You need to take a look at the privacy page of warp, they have a great explanation about what data they collect and share

[@csy897]

It seems like that’s Cus it’s on beta right now. In future you will be able to use it without logging in, but you would lose ai command feature

[@julsstefano7729]

@@christianlempa lol. i need to signup to use a terminal. you need to explain that in the Black Hat event 🤣.

[@JoRyGu]

@@christianlempa The problem is once you give the program permission to phone home it doesn't really matter what they SAY they're collecting. They can do whatever they want at that point. Combined with the fact that it's closed source, it's a no from me dog.

[@christianlempa]

@@julsstefano7729 I don’t need to explain anything, it’s not my software bro

[@theherk]

Wezterm and alacritty are both excellent, modern, fast terminals that don't gather telemetry or require an account.

[@janjurko4844]

Login + gathering metadata seems very dangerous to me.

[@cheebadigga4092]

they have a page about that: warp dot dev slash privacy

@@cheebadigga4092 login page for basic thing as terminal by default - no thanks. Make it as optional extensions, then ok....

[@christianlempa]

Yep, I was going to mention that :D thank you bro!

[@cheebadigga4092]

@ maybe we'll get a Linux version without all that who knows.

[@nilpo]

@@cheebadigga4092 Yea, no one has every lied on a privacy page.

[@xinaesthetic]

I really like the look of the block-based UI. I’d like a VSCode extension to make the embedded terminal behave like that.

[@christianlempa]

That would be awesome certainly

[@Chris-jp6ll]

A closed source terminal with fake links to github and other social media sites which forces you to login (wtf?) before it can be used and promises to not collect what you type while collecting and sending further telemetry data to their server? rofl no thanks ...

[@RaidSonic]

Looks great, but login required - thats a no go, back to iterm

[@fmax30000]

What about privacy?! Terminal is critical to give any app access to!

[@owlmostdead9492]

Instant uninstall as you need a login to use it, the fact that he didn't mention that at all is annoying.

[@fmax30000]

@@owlmostdead9492 Thanks. Granting root access is not an option!

[@owlmostdead9492]

@@squishy-tomato yeah I just don't understand how someone doesn't even mention it, I'm honestly more upset than I should be but it's just too weird.

[@christianlempa]

Don't want to hop into your excited discussion, but ... there is a nice privacy page on their website! and ... nobody here told you, you need to use it ;)

[@owlmostdead9492]

@@christianlempa Nobody said anything like that, it's just weird that you didn't mention it even once. Forced login is a major turnoff for a lot of things but for a terminal? That seems sooo fishy and untrustworthy or weren't you questioning it at all? I for once have never seen any terminal app, paid or unpaid, closed or open-source require a login for you to even start using it.

[@vladislavkalashnikov1744]

be aware, Sign Up required. It scares me away

[@JB-fh1bb]

Suggestion: a `.pathrc` file that just holds the path definition. Makes it much easier to swap terminals for one-offs

[@_e_z1601]

Love your video and the the app interesting except that it only works if you create an account with them - no thanks! I think you should've disclosed that from the beginning.

[@christianaendekerk1568]

Most german software engineer i ever heard. Subscribed for life

[@christianlempa]

Haha thx :D

[@FABESTAH]

warp looks really cool, i was thinking and actually looking for these features you showed in the the video but the dependency that you have to create an account plus telemetry data collection is kind of a no-go for me 👎 hopefully we will see these features somewhere else without the negatives 🤔

[@shanknbake]

I really like the workflows idea - but the showstopper for me is the fact that warp ties to the cloud and pulls back data -- that won't work for me (or, I would assume, most people?) since the terminal is a place where you type cleartext passwords. I don't want this thing connected to anything by any stretch of the imagination, much less grabbing data of any kind. There MUST be some way to opt out of this warp folks.

[@computer_toucher]

I need a few things in a terminal: 1) Work with Nerd Fonts 2) Start fast 3) 85% opacity 4) Just start tmux All the other things tabbed and other terminals do, tmux does for me :)

[@F38U]

Alacritty for you

[@blanketfish]

It's a pretty interesting terminal. I'm pretty set in my ways though with tmux and vim. No mouse needed at all 🙂

[@songpandy9590]

Right. Tmux could "almost" do similar things with key board.

[@DavidTschoepe]

I downloaded Warp. I'm not a power user but I already love the type ahead suggestions and other little "smart" features.

[@christianlempa]

Cool!

[@user-ui5tr4wq7k]

Instead of the workaround for starship, right clicking on the prompt, selecting edit prompt, and select Shell prompt.

[@farzadmf]

I really find it hard to use a closed source terminal that's trying to replace everything that I know. What happens if they decide in a few years that the business model is not working and decide to shut down the whole project?!

[@christianlempa]

Hmm then just use another terminal? XD

[@farzadmf]

Sure thing, I will for sure 🙂. Just wanted to point out the things that I personally think are wrong with what they're doing: - These days, something being closed source is weird, I know for sure that in my company, I wouldn't be allowed to use this anyways. - I wish they've added features "on top" of existing things, so that people could ease into using it, instead of having to reset all their knowledge and learn something new that may or may not be around in the [near] future

[@nilpo]

There's another name for a closed source project that collects telemetry data. It's called a keylogger.

[@farzadmf]

Exactly! Well said! Honestly, I'm not sure why people create the hype around this "warp", encouraging them to continue making things like this instead of being open

[@NN-sp9tu]

@@nilpo Apparently they only collect "metadata". Who knows what that even means

[@stpaquet]

Hyper and Fig are my go to ;-) But I agree that Warp brings new things to the table and it also sits on my Mac.

[@phillkelley7700]

Your video inspired me to download Warp and start it up. I hadn't read the comments before I did that - doh! - but as soon as I saw the "create account" screen it was Quit + Trash. I agree with the people who have complained that you did not make this mandatory account creation requirement clear. It might not be your software and you might not be being paid to spruik it (or so I assume) but I do think it detracts from your overall credibility to either not realise this would be a significant issue to so many of your viewers, or to realise and decide not to mention it.

[@eduitguy9016]

I like the look for it, especially the AI Tool for me, I am a Sys Admin more focused on Windows, so linux commands are limited. Being able to type in what I want via AI and have it give me the command is awesome. Would love to see an iPad app.

[@christianlempa]

It would be great to somehow have different datasets in the AI based on the Operating System of the user. Or maybe tell the AI which OS you’re using.

[@BigFx]

Great video and content! I liked your presentation so I wanted to try it out, and well.. I should have read comments 1st - having a terminal app that requires login and phones home? Not only they get your email (or github etc), but also can associate it with whatever you type. Saying it is a little bit invasive is an understatement.

[@id88viper88id]

Thank you for this introductory but comprehensive video :) I came across the Warp Command Line website when looking for what a certain parameter means, and then across this video of yours, when I was looking for a tutorial on it. I must admit that the way you have customized your copy of Warp looks interesting :) What intrigues me most about it is the AI. Having read what the developers of the Warp Command Line have written about it on their website, I assumed that the AI employed could provide help in composing commands. You have proved it, and so I am even more curious to try it out :) Perhaps it will help me with putting together a code that I am struggling with

[@KR1ML0N]

glad to see you posting regularly again.

[@christianlempa]

Thx, I hope to keep up the schedule :D

[@epto]

Looks pretty cool! Unfortunately vi-mode does not work for me, so it looks like I have to wait for this to be done.

[@DIN_A8]

Being using Warp for some time now, love it!

[@christianlempa]

Nice! :)

[@joesalyers]

I've been using iTerm for years but you have convinced me to try Warp!! I'm downloading it while watching you video!!

[@christianlempa]

Amazing! Let me know if you like it :)

[@joesalyers]

@@christianlempa I'm not a fan of the forced sign in just so I can use it even if i don't want the AI features. Warp needs to find alternatives to Google AI as an option even if the user has to install an extra package. I don't see it gaining any ground in Linux for this reason. Most Mac or Windows users won't care. I don't like it but I understand. But I can guess with certainty the open source and especially the privacy, GNU & Free-software crowd will not like this at all and be opposed to it. But it has some really good features such as the blocks and the theme styling. The font rendering is really good and might be the best I have seen for Mono fonts. It's nice but needs some options for it to be popular on Linux/BSD and so on. But it is a good start. Thanks again for sharing this on KZbin. Cheers!!

[@jonaskaninda8348]

Hi Christian, thank you for sharing with us

[@christianlempa]

You're welcome :)

[@kurdy34]

I was really disappointed to see those feature but, in the same time, the privacy issues we got with this software. A workaround I found is to block the network access for the application using Lulu (a Mac firewall), it breaks the AI feature, the application is not able to check for updates but installing it with brew mitigate the update issue, and for the AI I'm ok to give it up and keep my privacy.

[@antonyfomenko]

Download Warp - Install Warp - See login window - Close Warp - Uninstall Warp. Nice new terminal workflow.

[@aflawrence]

Awesome video! Thanks for sharing this. I have been a long time iTerm user but I am definitely going to give Warp a go as it looks white promising and seems like it could simplify some of my workflow. Used your previous Starship tutorial and dot files to set up my tooth my Mac and Linux terminals. A video on workflows in Warp would be really interesting looking forward to that one.

[@christianlempa]

Thank you! I’m happy to share some of my Workflows when I’m comfortable working with them :)

[@redacted_text]

It's not. Spend few hours playing with it, and it feels usable only on the video

[@OlekDytko]

This is sooo cool! I was so frustrated that I cannot do anything with mouse in the terminal and I didn't have suggested commands. This is my new terminal moving forward!

[@christianlempa]

Thanks :) that’s awesome 😎

[@RealGingerTea]

Surely this would be better for linux and microsoft to create their own shell command helper, that lists commands based on the letters you type, and gives you the options to click or select help on them to give a brief explanation of what they do, which would probably be faster to do in linux than in windows.

[@Gglsucksbigballz]

So much useful info! Great video. Thanks! 😊

[@christianlempa]

You're welcome :)

[@surajsilva]

Awesome tool, pity about the need for authentication. Otherwise I would have paid for this.

[@andyshaw2800]

Really interesting I will take a look at warp terminal as I am using terminal more and more on my mac Thanks

[@christianlempa]

Glad it was helpful!

[@highKO]

thx Christian very well summarized and excellent explained 👍

[@christianlempa]

Thanks! :)

[@alrdye]

OMG, this is such a cool terminal. Yes, please make more videos about it!

[@christianlempa]

Sure! :)

[@BumHaven]

Warp looks great but it's simply a no go due to login requirements.

[@mavhunter8753]

This is probably the best terminal I’ve ever seen! 😮

[@christianlempa]

Nice :)

[@Glatze603]

Hi Christian, pretty nice and functionaly terminal - hope will be available for linux and windows soon. Thanks for this cool content-video 🙂

[@christianlempa]

Thank you 🙏 yeah I hope it comes for win and Linux quickly :)

[@_vr]

Great showcase! Keep it up!

[@christianlempa]

Thanks, will do!

[@olafschermann1592]

Oh - that looks great! Thank you for sharing

[@christianlempa]

You're welcome! Glad you like it :)

[@theblowupdollsmusic]

You are the king of the terminal!

[@christianlempa]

Haha thank you man :D

[@theblowupdollsmusic]

@@christianlempa Thank YOU! For sharing all of your awesome technology and aesthetics!

[@ImOutaTime]

Seems like there is a potential security/privacy issue with warp terminal as cool as it looks. They send data back to their servers which you can opt out from but just because they do send data back I can never use it in my day to day job.

[@sean-delaney]

I loved this. Subscribed!

[@christianlempa]

Thank you and welcome 🤗

[@VernardMartin]

Absolutely phenomenal!

[@christianlempa]

Thx!

[@itsamemarkus]

That terminal looks awesome. Must try it

[@christianlempa]

Nice! Tell me if you like it :)

[@alba9567]

Hi Christian, when making this videos and using terminal, please have in mind that if we use video progress bar it goes over terminal commands. Good video btw :)

[@christianlempa]

Thx! :)

[@danielstellmon5330]

4.5 minutes in and I'm already sold

[@christianlempa]

I did a great job 😁👍

[@CarmineEspositoIT]

Not sure why I need to sign up to use a terminal

[@nilpo]

So they can steal your command history and call it AI.

[@nalle475]

Thanks again for a great video! Warp seems to be the way I move more of my work to MacOS. Today most of my terminal work is on Arch Linux using Fish. This switching from one system to another are sometimes frustrating. I just recognized yesterday that my configs for fish are a total mess. I started a massive cleanup and need to take a look at my bash and zsh settings to. I use bash on servers, fish on linux machines and zsh on my Mac’s.

[@christianlempa]

Thank you! Interesting to hear about your journey. I also used Linux in the past, but I'm now very happy using macOS and Windows wasn't bad as well ;)

[@DonGerico]

Just want to say I love you. Your videos have fast become my favourite. I do so hope that you have some videos coming for noobies setting up homelab servers etc. A follow along type thing. Anyway, really really nice information. I def am tempted to move back to mac OS, not because i dislike Windows, just sometimes I hit problems working with people on mac OS and although we often work it out and fix problems, I just want a more seamless exerpeience for web projects.

[@christianlempa]

Thank you so much :) I’ll keep doing some videos for beginners and homelab, stay tuned!

[@nikitosbertone]

Awesome video. Thank you!

[@christianlempa]

Thanks!

[@LeonisYT]

Can't wait til the Linux release they have planned. That stationary panel at the bottom is super useful.

[@christianlempa]

Oh yeah that would be great! :D Fingers crossed

[@pnuema1.618]

There ethics are sack religious to Linux entire ideology. Thumbs down.

[@johnarnold893]

A leonis......if it's closed source you won't see it in most linux distros.

[@johnarnold893]

@@pnuema1.618 sack religious, lol

[@Sushrut1101]

Warp requires a login to Collect Data. Due to this reason it's a big no for me. I use Tabby instead. You should try Tabby too!

[@stamy]

For now this is closed source software. "We are thinking of open sourcing the client part". This soft was released 7 months ago, so the thinking part can take ages...

[@christianlempa]

Give them a fair amount of time ;) btw open or closed, I don’t care as long it’s a great product ✌️

[@oldsku11]

warp is amazing, thanks for sharing

[@christianlempa]

It really is!

[@MrSunTrope]

This Terminal is So Cool. I use it already.

[@christianlempa]

It absolutely is :)

[@NicolasMartinezbimbo]

yeah a new terminal, oh no, telemetry collection...... next

[@cloneoffunkenstein]

Warp Terminal doesn't work with tmux sessions so I wouldn't even consider using it. I'm using iterm with oh-my-zsh + powerlevel10k theme

[@Neilhem]

iTerm2 with Fig is a good alternative. Fig btw collects telemetry data, but you can opt-out

[@ludi1390]

Lmao imagine having to sign in to your terminal just so you can enter "ls ls -la pwd brew update exit"

[@christianlempa]

If that’s the only thing you do in your cli, well, there isn’t much to say about it xD

[@eliebismuth412]

Awesome video thanks

[@christianlempa]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@sergioliberati9192]

I highly recommend using rg as a replacement of grep, it is faster and more flexible I would say

[@christianlempa]

Thanks I’ll check it out, still so used to grep xD

[@ArtemKondratev]

Blocks are great but I definitely won't use a closed sourced terminal.

[@mistenkt]

This looked great, and I got kinda excited. But the second i saw the forced signup screen I immediately alt-tabbed back to iTerm and wrote brew uninstall warp.

[@JGNiDK]

We need that for Linux like YESTERDAY!! Thanks for the video

[@christianlempa]

Oh yeah that would be great :) thank you

[@SssshirazzzZ]

i've loved iTerm for so long, but this has me thinking....

[@victornoagbodji]

Okay, this is deff off-topic but I love that blue 😊Care sharing where you got that zip-up hoodie? 😊

[@christianlempa]

It's from engelbert and strauss ;)

[@victornoagbodji]

@@christianlempa thank you so much! i bookmarked them 😄

[@derysf]

If you've used copy & paste for editing multiple lines in the past, you don't know your tools. You can Ctrl-X-E in bash which invokes $EDITOR and comfortable edit the commandline to execute.

[@nilpo]

Requires a login to be connected with a well-known OAuth provider. Sorry, I don't want to have to log into a terminal app and I can't even do it with a dummy account. No go for me.

[@hongbohe4454]

The telemetry annoys me since so many sensitive actions take place in my terminal. Also, currently there's still a solid reason that preventing me from switching from iTerm2 and that's tmux integration. I can run `tmux -CC` over ssh to start a tmux session and let iTerm2 handle the session, multiplexing the ssh connection while still have access to native scrolling, tab and split screens, while running `tmux -CC` in other terminal emulators give me nothing.

[@yungabilify]

I think it's great you aren't devout to just windows/linux. I genuinely like using macos compared to windows minus apple's window management

[@ardavanansari]

Love these videos! Thanks for keeping my tools up-to-date

[@christianlempa]

Glad you like them!

[@EdvardHansson]

iterm needs this

[@christianlempa]

Or just use warp xD

[@tba77]

It seems that the login thing is for the AI on the cloud to adapt to what is typing

[@christianlempa]

I guess so, but they also have some subscriptions coming out soon

[@tadmarshall2739]

Interesting, thanks for posting! Warp Terminal seems to blur the distinction between shell and terminal. Hard to know if that is a good thing, without using it of course. I've thought that iTerm2 was just fine, but I'll play with this and see what I think.

[@victhetechguy]

It would great if you also explained the keyboard shortcuts you used to get those menus.

[@t-roy1605]

Some guys just go bald. Not this guy. He's so smart that he scared his hair away. Great video Christian!

[@christianlempa]

Lol 😂 thank you mate

[@shawnzhsh]

i used to use Hyper. just i've tried the WARP. awesome !! thank U Chris!.

[@christianlempa]

Great to hear!

[@nate32396]

Can’t wait for the Linux version!

[@rvermausa]

Thanks for the great video. I like your glasses. Do you have a link for your glasses?

[@christianlempa]

I don't know the exact model, but it's one from Ray-Ban ;)

[@vailgrass]

it looks like a closed sourced fork of alacritty, which is also written in rust, that collects personal data.

[@Sushrut1101]

Hey! You should try "Tabby" Terminal!

[@christianlempa]

Why? I’m pretty happy with warp :)

[@Sushrut1101]

@@christianlempa Why not try Tabby too?

[@saitamapreetsingh3057]

If it was free and open source I would have tried it ! But I just hate proprietary software that I am used to use everyday

[@bruunit9215]

They should really let us pay for it instead of paying with our data.

[@nilpo]

I'm sure the AI here is just recommending the most used commands. It's probably not true AI. Ergo, they need the data more than money.

[@TomGDrAccessibility]

Warp is closed source, requires creation of an account, and only gives you 20 AI queries per day and makes you pay for more. Why can't it be open source and allow you to plugin your existing AI subscription?

[@papperlapapp-dev]

Now I am curious! Installing warp rn. I am using a combination of iTerm2 + Fish + Starship + fzf. Let's see what Warp can add to that mix! Thank you for your video!!

[@christianlempa]

Thank you so much ;)

[@d3vastatlon]

You should be able to set the default system in settings. Having to declare to the AI that you need the command for mac is non-sensical.

[@christianlempa]

Well it was mainly to show the feature of the AI ;)

[@michaelburry1519]

Hi Christian, I recommend trying tabby, a great terminal emulator.

[@carstenmaul7220]

warp went to trash when the sign up window appeared 🎉

[@hintoninstruments2369]

I don't have much confidence in a company that can't even tell you what OS versions they are compatible with. I don't want another terminal I want a Worksheet, something Apple had in the 20th century that was trashed by Jobs, and I've got one in BBEdit it's just not MPW.