Thanks for this message I have been on a sort of mission to teach departure as proper 2 Thessalonians translation! I have Textus Receptus and have pointed out that it translated departure for almost 400 years.
@terryfonz46033 ай бұрын
Like 350 years before KJV
@katrinahaney26943 ай бұрын
This is great. Every version before kjv understands apostasia to mean departure of the body of Christ. So many people have been deceived by this bad translating. Thanks.
@gospeltractslove4 ай бұрын
The rapture and the second coming day of the Lord are two different events.
@LastDaySaintJames4 ай бұрын
Paul inspired by Holy Spirit proves you wrong 2 Thes. 2 1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 👆His coming and our gathering is directly related 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 👆His coming and the destruction of that WICKED is directly related. 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 👆His coming is ... AFTER THE WORKING OF SATAN proving we co-exist with that WICKED .
@gospeltractslove4 ай бұрын
@@LastDaySaintJames yeah those who are left behind.
@LastDaySaintJames4 ай бұрын
@@gospeltractslove are you stupid? verse 1 is the rapture
@LastDaySaintJames4 ай бұрын
@@gospeltractslove Paul clearly said by our gathering together he didn't say anything about wicked and godless left behinders
@LastDaySaintJames4 ай бұрын
@@gospeltractslove ain't it such a shame when three Bible verses destroy your entire doctrine?
@terryfonz46033 ай бұрын
I’ve been preaching in comment sections for some time that a fall away makes zero sense as Jesus says I will Not lose one and in those days I will pour out my spirit on all men and all who call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. How do we rightly divide the word with a fall away! Makes zero sense!
@JesusIsLordOurRedeemerАй бұрын
The falling away is the "christians" people who say they are saved but do not live life abiding in the Holy Spirit according to Rom8 and all of the other new testement chapters that speak in hiw a Christian will Live. In other words the workers of iniquity, lukewarm christians, and wolves in sheeps clothing ( i.e. the ones who never belonged to him) are those who fall away and trun in the True Christians to be imprisoned and beaten and killed as Mat24, Mark13, and Luke21 say will happen in Jesus' own words. Isaiah 48 "Never from the beginning have I spoken in secret, from its very being I was, and now My lord YHWH has Sent me and His Spirit" hebrew interlinear Green. This is the first time YHWH says yo im three persons i speak plainly and not in hidden meanings.
@richardlafave25564 ай бұрын
So read to see The Lord and our Savior Jesus Christ. Come Lord Jesus Come.
@Nancy-nc4sw4 ай бұрын
Very grateful for this presentation explaining the truth about the Rapture. There is so much controversy among believers presently,. We pre- trib believers are being disparaged vehemently by post- trib believers. I never thought I would see a day where fellow Christians would talk about fellow Christians in this manner.
@LastDaySaintJames4 ай бұрын
@@KeithGreenshields SO I WONDER IF YOU PEOPLE EVEN KNOW HOW TO READ. THESE ARE THE WORDS OF PAUL INSPIRED BY HOLY SPIRIT CONCERNING THE COMING OF THE LORD 3 SIMPLE TO READ VERSES AND NOTHING DIFFICULT TO INTERPRET NO TRICKY WORDS JUST FACTS. 2 Thes. 2 1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 👆His coming and our gathering is directly related 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 👆His coming and the destruction of that WICKED is directly related. 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 👆His coming is ... AFTER THE WORKING OF SATAN proving we co-exist with that WICKED PERIOD NOTHING TO ADD NOTHING TO REMOVE FACTS. .
@LastDaySaintJames4 ай бұрын
the controversy comes from those pretend christians that reject Jesus and His word to endure to the end. .
@deha11mo4 ай бұрын
@@LastDaySaintJamesnay but rather it comes from Satan's right hand of false Christianity that will not repent of their self righteousnesses to be saved.
@WJRoss-fc5dr4 ай бұрын
@@deha11mo 2timothy 3 The whole chapter is end days. ALL that live godly suffer persecution.
@johnbrodeur583 ай бұрын
I have a different idea , a description of The Lord's appearance in rev has eyes of fire, glowing hot feet etc ( Luke 12:49 brings fire. As a 6th seal rapture guy, the kings and mighty men run scared after seeing and hearing God's appearance. In John he is said to have a "fan" in His hand ( fan used to sift grain- or a pitchfork) now imagine those who are left behind knowing that was Jesus Christ , the doomed world will be spun to think a fire god with a pitchfork is who?
@Jerrymc19753 ай бұрын
tribulation is wrath. Read Matthew 24:37-39. Do you literally think we will be eating, drinking, marrying, basically going about business as usual at the end of the tribulation? Absolutely not! It wouldn’t be a tribulation if that was the case
@Raymond77793 ай бұрын
In complete agreement. Excellent video. With correct interpretation of 2 Thess 2 : 3, we clearly see the rapture *before* the 7 year tribulation, otherwise known as Daniel's 70th Week of Years, which years are given unto the Jews and Jerusalem, and *not* the gentile church (because we're removed beforehand). God bless you and thank you for posting this video.
@Raymond77793 ай бұрын
@@KeithGreenshields Thank you for the kind words. My channel mainly re-posts videos from other Christian sources, so I cannot take credit other than sharing, like your channel has. Keep looking up, as so many signs point to 2024 being the year long awaited by Christians (including Paul) when Jesus removes us from the earth. Maranatha!
@Raymond77793 ай бұрын
@@KeithGreenshields Sorry, my video from 12 years ago didn't immediately come to mine as I've reposted other videos on this verse since then. Thank you. But your presentation goes beyond what I provided in mine in an entertaining presentation, and is a perfect summation of why we know Paul taught the pre trib rapture. For others reading this comment - full credit to Pastor JD Farag and Dr. Thomas Ice for their excellent bible studies into the rapture as reflected in 2 Thess 2-3. . With your kind permission, I'd like to re-post this video, with full credit to you and URL to your video in the video description box. I believe I mentioned this, but I also re-post on alternate platforms to reach people who don't come here to youtube.
@Raymond77793 ай бұрын
@@KeithGreenshields Thank you so much. If we're not taken up this week, I might just start putting out original videos again (with help of AI narration). I'll look for invideo AI. I'm guessing it does the voices, but does it also help with the video presentation, or do you need to assemble the video clips yourself? I still use the basic Microsoft Movie Maker that came free with PCs up until about 10 years ago - LOL.
@Raymond77793 ай бұрын
@@KeithGreenshields Thanks again. That would be an amazing help and is inspiring me to get back to making videos again.
@rhlove6663 ай бұрын
Apostasy does not mean like departing from the Earth. But departing the faith..
@rhlove6663 ай бұрын
@@KeithGreenshields You suspect I don't have a great education?. And you talk about knee-jerk reactions or opinions,?. I am Greek.... Apostasy means to fall away or depart. Nothing about no rapture. That is just foolery and nonsense The whole pre-tribulation rapture is nonsense also.. no real text to back it up
@Ak47777-l2 ай бұрын
@@KeithGreenshields100%!!!!
@patrickorourke88263 ай бұрын
Jesus only comes one time as a thief for us, and He tells us exactly when He is coming!! For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon. Revelation 16:14-16
@patrickorourke88263 ай бұрын
Let no man deceive you, the pretrib rapture THEORY will be responsible for the great falling away. People expecting escape will instead find themselves in tribulation. Hunger is a great weapon, many will turn from their faith and take the mark!
@patrickorourke88263 ай бұрын
Instead, we should believe the words of Jesus Himself! He told us that thru much tribulation we will enter the kingdom of God
@patrickorourke88263 ай бұрын
Revelation 16:15 is in present tense, He did not say, I came as a thief, blessed were those who watched and kept their garments, no He gave us this verse in present tense to give us hope of when exactly we will be rescued.
@christian4ever19624 ай бұрын
In 1976, when I was 13 years old, I had a wide awake, real, in full color VISION of the Lord's Return... I want to stress, this was NOT a dream. We lived out in the country in the middle of dusty plowed fields, dirt roads and woods in south Georgia. Everything looked kind of brown and crispy, like it needed rain bad. The corn field across the road in front of the house was starting to turn brown and die. I went to my bedroom, which faced out the front side of the house and looked out onto our front yard, which had a semi-circular dirt driveway and beside the left entrance was an old dogwood tree which had to be at least a hundred years old. Highway 341 ran from east to west in front of our house, which faced north, and the cornfield I spoke of earlier was on the other side of the highway. There was a slight rise in the middle of this field and you could not see the trees on the other side, so it looked like an ocean of corn that went off into the horizon. As I lay across my bed looking out the window, contemplating what I saw before me, I began to hear music in the distance. I specifically heard it in my right ear and the direction from which it came made me think of the high school band which practiced several miles southeast from where I lived. When conditions were right we could hear the band playing, but usually only heard the faint beat of drums. This sounded like trumpets and as I was thinking this to myself, I began to notice the music getting louder and louder, coming closer and closer, very quickly. Within a few seconds the sound wasn't just something that was exterior, but it was inside my head as well, reverberating throughout my entire body. It was so loud and it sounded like lightning crashed directly over my head and, in that split second, the trumpet sound thundered throughout my body and throughout the entire world...everything went dark and my bed and the earth shook violently. In a flash, I was no longer lying on my bed, but I was standing outside my bedroom window in the front yard and I beheld the scene in front of me with tremendous awe. It was still my front yard, only now everything was different. It seemed as if my entire range of vision was a huge 3D movie screen and I was in the middle of it. The trumpets continued to sound and I saw that the blue, sunny sky had turned black and the clouds churned and the wind blew with a violence that I had never experienced. The corn field was now a sea of wheat that was golden brown and ripe for harvest and I could see every stalk of wheat individually, billions of them. And I watched as the wind thrashed the wheat until it was beaten down by the storm. I now know that the Bible speaks several times about, in the end time, when the wheat is ripe for harvest, how the wheat will be separated from the tares. The tares are gathered and bundled together for burning and the wheat is gathered into the barn. Then I noticed the dogwood tree. It was mid-July, so of course I know there should not have been any blossoms on it, they usually bloom around Easter...but the tree was in full bloom. I had never seen anything like this. You couldn't see any leaves on the tree because of the millions of dogwood blossoms. It looked as if it were lit from within, by a glowing whitest of white, neon light and it glowed gloriously against the darkened sky. Now, I know the Bible says no man knows the day nor hour that Jesus will return, but if we watch for the signs, we can know the season. I have always felt that He might come back in the spring when the dogwood tree is in bloom. Of all the things that could have been highlighted in a vision; why the dogwood tree? I believe there is a specific message here. (Update: recently, I prayed about this and I feel the Lord placed into my spirit that this represents the fullness of the gentiles coming in). Just as I was taking all of this in, lightning filled the sky and the trumpets thundered over head again and in an instant there appeared two angels. They were dressed in white robes, facing each other up in the air and blowing golden trumpets. They were huge and filled the sky in front of me and I knew that the entire world must be seeing this as well. When I say huge, I mean like the size of the highest mountains, literally. I didn't think the trumpets could get any louder, but they grew louder still, building to a great crescendo and I heard a great shout that was louder than anything that you could imagine. And with that shout, it's as if the earth fell silent, the black, violent clouds began to roll back onto themselves from the center of the northeastern sky and I saw light in the distance. It was more a combination of light and clearing of the clouds in the distance that got my attention. As I looked up at this shaft of light and clearing sky, I saw what seemed to be fluttering and movement in the distance. As it came into view, I saw Jesus on a white horse and behind him were millions of angels and saints on white horses. It was at this moment, when I realized what I was seeing, that it disappeared and I was back in my room lying on my bed. Everything was back to normal and I was again looking out at a bright, sunny day.
@nancyking3 ай бұрын
I have a story, too, but it's not a vision: In the summer of 1986, when I was 10 1/2 years old, I heard A Voice tell me that I wouldn't be on the earth long, but I wouldn't leave it in death. I was confused because I had already been to a few wakes and funerals, and I knew that people left the earth in death. A couple of years later, I found out it was the rapture that The Voice was talking about. Just a few hours ago, I think I got the answer I needed. Strangely, it came to me in the form of thinking about my great-grandmother and how she died of a stroke when she was only 48 years old (she was the same age I am now.). Maybe I won't be around to celebrate my 49th birthday, which is November 14, as people have been saying that the rapture will be either October, early November.
@del85663 ай бұрын
Please explain how Matthew 24:29 fits into a PRE-rapture... does it mean Jesus will return twice then? It clearly says Jesus only returns AFTER the 7yr Tribulation...
@Trevor-nc3ox3 ай бұрын
@@del8566 the rapture Jesus comes in the Air not to the earth check these and 1cor 15v 51 onwardsand 2 thess
@oyvind19783 ай бұрын
@@KeithGreenshields if youread matthew 24. 29 and then you read tribulation 6.12 you will see that first it is tribulation and then comes God wrath. So i belive you are wrong because you mix Tribulation together with God wrath
@johnbrodeur583 ай бұрын
In ephesians chp 3 paul explains that the mystery was revealed to him ( including the doctrine of the rapture, at acts 9 on the timeline) this mystery was before not made known, that would mean matt 24 etc . The 7y tribulation was before made known from the prophets . Just that the tribulation would have a surprise start ,the only mystery part is that the rapture would happen right before that!
@BrndiMiller3 ай бұрын
@@oyvind1978Matthew 24 is not written in chronological order.
@katrinahaney26943 ай бұрын
In addition to what was already stated I will add one point. The disciples had no knowledge of a harpazó/ rapture. So there is no reason for them to be asking about it. They asked Yahshua about the end of the age. And that's what He explained.
@waynehunter5914 ай бұрын
I've always been one to think that belief on the timing of the rapture isn't a 'salvation issue' but am starting to think that believing in the pre-tribulation rapture is evidence of being saved, or not. Many 'Christians' cherish riches on Earth and give little regard to heaven. Why else would you resist the idea of being spared tribulation? There is now a global government waiting in the wings intending to subjugate and cull just as prophesied but most have more faith in their 401K than Jesus. It's sad.
@Daves20244 ай бұрын
Well said and very true!
@Petar-xk6km4 ай бұрын
I don’t know anti pre trib is a salvation issue. Being a anti semite is. How can a person have Holy Spirit and hate the Jews/Israel.
@waynehunter5914 ай бұрын
@@Petar-xk6km I wasn't suggesting that one's eschatological view is a salvation issue insomuch as an indicator of maturity and/or one's priorities. It could be an indicator of not being 'born-again' in some cases. In retrospect all this will seem like trivial nonsense but..."for now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known." In my experience many Jews consider 'goys' as cattle at best - Christians as dimwitted excitable simpletons - but God will sort it out soon enough and always refer Supersessionist types to Romans 10/11. I pray for peace in Jerusalem but don't think terribly highly of the Sabbatean-Frankists running the place currently. The descendants of Jacob/Israel, the promised land, and the religion in reverence to YHVH are all separate and severable yet interrelated issues. Israel is presently lost for their having corporately rejected Jesus (except for the Messianic Jews) and the purpose of the Tribulation is to remedy that...I just hope to see that from a heavenly vantage point rather than being stuck in Texas dealing with the imminent NWO takeover. Jesus promised that the faithful will be spared wrath (Rev 3:10). That some of us see imminent danger and most don't is troubling. Then again, most don't study prophecy.
@Davinawarth14 ай бұрын
I am sure in a pre trib rapture… I have family members who are Jesus freaks and are profoundly in love with our Lord, but do not believe in a pre trib rapture. That’s up to them but I am sure, certain they are saved.❤ If our salvation hinged on the timing of the rapture the Bible would say so. God bless those who believe in Him and those yet to find Him.
@loveistruth57134 ай бұрын
I've been saved for 50 years and I've heard every Doctrine on the Rapture that's conceivable ..whenever Jesus decides to return it is okay with me. I'm watching and I'm waiting and I'm praying and I'm rejoicing our job is to share God's good news and love and have faith8Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable-if anything is excellent or praiseworthy-think on these things. 9Whatever you have learned or received or heard from me, or seen in me, put it into practice. And the God of peace will be with you.✝️🕊❤️🔥🗡
@Andy-u9x2 ай бұрын
I pray not that you take them out of the world, but you keep them from the evil.... John 17: 15... don't bank on being taken out of nowhere but you will be kept if you abide in Yeshua and be change at his COMING! and welcome HIM!.... his second coming is JUDGEMENT! on this world...
@Znobyrd4 ай бұрын
My concordance shows the word apostasia (falling away) means a departure from the truth. And considering the context of the rest of the verse, I'm inclined to believe it means that.
@bugsocsollie16944 ай бұрын
That's why you shouldn't trust the Greek. Apostasia means Departure. The Greek apostesontai tes pisteos means Departure from the faith, and it has zero context in 2 Thessalonians 2. Departure is the only logical way to read 2 Thessalonians 2, and it happens before Israel's 70th week begins.
@Znobyrd3 ай бұрын
@@bugsocsollie1694 Thanks I'll look into it, but not sure if there is any way you can prove this.
@bugsocsollie16943 ай бұрын
@Znobyrd of course it can be proven, just read it for what it says. Look at verse 6, "...and NOW YOU KNOW what withholds..." How do they now know? Because he just told them in verse 3. The DEPARTURE happens before the man of sin is revealed. Also verses 7 and 8, someone is taken out of the way (DEPARTURE) before the man of sin is revealed.
@bugsocsollie16943 ай бұрын
@Znobyrd They can't "NOW KNOW" from something he wrote in another book to someone else. They NOW KNOW because he just told them: DEPARTURE which is perfect context with our gathering together unto Him, meeting the Lord in the air.
@WJRoss-fc5dr3 ай бұрын
@Znobyrd brother you are talking to a false d mon ik teacher .1timothy 4-1 now the spirit speaketh expressly that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils...aka pre trib rapture. I rebuke you and protect znobyrd in the name of Jesus Christ our lord God and Savior Amen.
@danielmclaughlin91293 ай бұрын
A depature from faith has been happening throughout history. If this was the meaning of falling away it does not identify a specific time. Many times through history there has been barely a reminant keeping the faith like the middle ages. There has never been an event that cannot be mistaken such as the rapture. The believing a lie so often quoted is not belief in pretrib rapture but belief in works based salvation which seems to also be associated with post trib salvation.
@tedtan64492 ай бұрын
Remember Paul and Luke were travelling companions. In the Bible, Luke "sees" all things! (macro perspective).
@Skullrider14 ай бұрын
I think what settles the debate. Is if you do a research when and when does the GREEK word for church Ekklisia appears in the book of Revelation. You will find that Ekklisia appears 19 times in the first 3 chapters and not again until chapter 19 when Jesus returns with the church. Do yourself a favour and do the research. It encourages one greatly. No mention of the church from chapter 4 to chapter 18
@WJRoss-fc5dr4 ай бұрын
@YoursOnline-gz1ps sorry I left out 1 important part and that is if the evil servant loses faith and joins as the days of noah.
@bugsocsollie16944 ай бұрын
A little deeper research will reveal that those 7 churches of Rev 2 and 3 are not the Body of Christ Church. They are congregations of Israel. Revelation is a book of prophecy: Israel's prophecy, not ours.
@bugsocsollie16944 ай бұрын
@@KeithGreenshields Yes, I was responding to the opening post on this thread about the "church" not being mentioned after chapter 3. Those churches in 2 and 3 are not the Body of Christ Church.
@XsLordSidious4 ай бұрын
No matter how u try to convince or tell the truth, it doesn't matter! people will continue to do the evil deeds they have going until the last day regardless...i see it happen every DAY where i reside, u speak up you are literally on the verge of being evicted or thrown out its that bad!
@Richard-nq7dk4 ай бұрын
Let me give you a list of those clouds oir lord comes in..... 1st matthew 13 24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: 25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. 26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. 27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? 28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? 29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. 37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; 38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; 39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. 40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. 41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. End of the world....only wheat and tares...no special group of church people. Seed of the devil or seed of God. Angels reapers...wheat to the barn...tares bundled and butned. Now heres matthew 24 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Do we see jesus coming on clouds to gather us ?......AFTER THE TRIBULATION! Heres the actual harvest in revelation 14 14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. 15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe. 16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped. 17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle. 18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe. 19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. 20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs. See the harvest? The wheat taken and the tares gathered to the wineoress, the 7 vials or armegeddon(Gods wrath) Heres us in heaven before the throne just before the wrath come in the 7 vials Revelation 15 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God. 2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.
@tedtan64492 ай бұрын
When Jesus gathers, the rendezvous is "In the clouds". The angels reminded THAT. And Jesus was in full GLORY! His clothes NOT STAINED. *It's a dramatic shift, when he comes towards the closing of that Tribulation period, because in Rev 19, Jesus Robes ARE DIPPED IN BLOOD.Jesus has trampled the grapes in his fury! So in between passages that suggest Pretrib and Post Trib is The MID TRIB, this is the main harvest typology. Who does the harvesting, it's the Angels who are told to SEPARATE. Gather to safety ( Barn), then the other to BURN. Is there a pattern in the past? SODOM and Gommorah. This is why the Book of Jude is one Book away from Book of Revelation.
@johnnygeneric161Ай бұрын
Several of the early church fathers taught a pre-trib rapture
@buukkreider5443 ай бұрын
The Rapture of The Church Where in The Holy Bible does is say, 'rapture'? It doesn't say the word, 'rapture', but in the Latin Vulgate. What does 'rapture' mean? It means 'caught away' or 'pull away' or 'pull up' or 'rapture'. The rapture is not only for The Church as a whole, but an individual could be raptured. The first time in the New Testament a person was raptured was Philip the Evangelist in chapter 8 of Acts... Acts 8:34-40 Philip is Raptured 34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man? 35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. 36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? 37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. 38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. 39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing. 40 But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Caesarea. So Philip was with the Ethiopian Eunuch, then he disappeared and was found in Azotus in an instant. The next place someone was raptured was mentioned in 2Corinthians 12... 2Corinthians 12:1-5 Rapture and Caught Up Into Paradise 1 It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord. 2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. 3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) 4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter. 5 Of such an one will I glory: yet of myself I will not glory, but in mine infirmities. The Apostle Paul was most likely speaking of himself 'caught up' into Paradise. These are the Apostle Paul's words. Also The Church. The Apostle Paul mentions this in 1Thessalonians 4... 1Thessalonians 4:14-18 The Church Caught Up in The Air 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words. In verse 17 Paul states it clearly, "We which are alive and remain shall be CAUGHT UP together with them in the clouds..." The living believers at the time of the resurrection of the just will follow those that have passed away. The Apostle Paul also mentions that it will be in the twinkling of an eye in 1Corinthians 15... 1Corinthians 15:51-57 In a Twinkling of an Eye 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. 55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? 56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. This passage is quite clear too. Also in 1Thessalonians 1:10 1Thessalonians 1:10 Delivered from The Wrath to Come 10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come. 1Thessalonians 5:9, 10 Not Appointed to Wrath 9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.
@straight-narrow-path4 ай бұрын
7 year tribulation in Daniel ? Daniel 9 is talking about the Messiah and Jesus was cut off in the middle of His earthly ministry leaving 3.5 year for Jacobs trouble .
@kotik10334 ай бұрын
Its based on an interpretation from Daniel where it says "he shall confirm the covenant for one week"; believed to be the antichrist confirming a peace covenant with Israel for 7 years. Also, there it the time when the two witnesses are active in Jerusalem for 42 months, believed to occur before the final 3.5 years of wrath.
@straight-narrow-path4 ай бұрын
@@kotik1033 That interpretation can't be correct because Daniel 9 is talking about the messiah not the antichrist. Nowhere does Daniel mention a peace covenant either .
@LastDaySaintJames4 ай бұрын
JACOB'S TROUBLE IS THE DAY OF THE LORD NOT 3.5 YEARS BEFORE THE DAY OF THE LORD .
@waynehunter5914 ай бұрын
Messiah was cut off after 69 weeks of years so one week of 7 years remains to 1) “to finish transgression,” 2) “to put an end to sin,” 3) “to atone for wickedness,” 4) “to bring in everlasting righteousness,” 5) “to seal up vision and prophecy,” and 6) “to anoint the most holy” with respect to Israel. Supersessionism, the belief that the Church is Israel (in conflict with Romans 10/11), has muddied the water. Just as the first advent fulfilled the spring festivals (passover, unleavened bread, first fruits, pentecost) the fall festivals (AKA: Days of Awe / Yamim Noraim: yom teruah / trumpets / harvest, 7 days of 'tribulation', yom kippur / atonement) foreshadow the second advent. The Church and Israel are separate with different destinies and the Tribulation is for the salvation of Israel; the Bride of Christ won't be here (2 Thes 2, Rev 3:10, etc.).
@LastDaySaintJames4 ай бұрын
@@waynehunter591 NOPE THE JEWS AND GENTILES ARE ALL PART OF THE ONE BODY OF CHRIST. 1 Corinthians 12 13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. YOU AND YOUR FALSE DOCTRINE DIVIDE THE ONE BODY OF CHRIST .
@amypope90982 ай бұрын
Matthew 24:29-30
@hendrikjansevanrensburg83374 ай бұрын
Mu friends,... you look,search hard, but can not hear the Voice. John 17 : 15 ," I pray not that Thou shouldest take them out of this world, but that Thou should keep them from the evil. " and verse 20,"all believes " which voice do you hear? Christ or man's 1 Corinthians 2 : 5. Time "with in" 1948 + 80 = 2028.
@michaelsteinke38684 ай бұрын
Finally, someone, with some common sence.
@theKingsAmbassadors4 ай бұрын
So you are saying Christ will pour HIS wrath on both HIS Bride and the wicked?
@ghostownaproach4 ай бұрын
You should have kept reading because a few verses later Jesus says he wants us to be with him where he is. John 17:20,24 KJV Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; [24] Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world. 2,000 years is long enough to be not taken out of the world but when the things that Jesus described as signaling that the end of the age is close, then our redemption is near and time for us to go be with him as he promised in John 14 .
@hendrikjansevanrensburg83374 ай бұрын
@@ghostownaproach you my friend, do, but can not, write down your own words after the Words of Christ and change completely the message Christ said and say for only Christ's and God's Words stands forever. Yes wjen we dies or are changed have our new bodies we Will always be with Christ. Like the one man on the cross " today". Matthew 24 : 29 - 31, those that remain till Christ second coming. We stay on earth till the second coming of Christ, John 17 : 15. That is the message, you, me,nobody, can and must not add or take from the message.
@michaelsteinke38684 ай бұрын
@@theKingsAmbassadors -I am saying; He will pour His wrath; upon the whole world; like Noah; He poured out His wrath, but told Noah; to build; the ark and save his family and those animals; they ESCAPED the danger; also; like; the children of Israel (Jacob); running from the Egyptian army; came to the Red Sea; and God had Mosses; raise his staff; and the sea parted; so they could ESCAPE danger. - John 17: 15 - NOT leaving the earth, but to ESCAPE the danger.
@ch17664 ай бұрын
You show Roman Catholicism and they do NOT believe or know anything about the Rapture. That's misrepresentation of the true believers of the Word.
@ch17664 ай бұрын
@@KeithGreenshields Your clip shows a priest doing the sign of the cross and RC's do not even know what the Rapture is. They do not read the bible and learn what is in it.
@artdimino16264 ай бұрын
Stop the distracting background music. It's very annoying. Sorry.
@jimmymiller75683 ай бұрын
Ezekiel 13-18-21, I’m against you teaching my souls to fly, meeting Jesus in the air meant ambient air, the air around you, waiting on the seventh trump!!
@jimmymiller75683 ай бұрын
@@KeithGreenshields God is really smart, the word rapture is NOT mentioned in the Bible
@jimmymiller75683 ай бұрын
@@KeithGreenshields I really, really, wish it WERE true however
@Trevor-nc3ox3 ай бұрын
I believe this ,Chuck missler,and Allen Nolan of cornerstone fellowship has this view and these are the best biblical scholars I have listened to Godbless you in your walk with the Lord Jesus Christ Amen
@Trevor-nc3ox3 ай бұрын
@SherylinRM chuck and Allen Nolan are very learned bible teachers and evangelists and go into great details about and are both for pre trib rapt , there's deffo more info for it than against it . Godbless
@Trevor-nc3ox3 ай бұрын
@SherylinRM just keep doing what you're doing Sherylin in doing so you are spreading the Gospel and that's what we are supposed to do, Godbless you for it in Jesus name
@karencomeaux92252 ай бұрын
Think back to the Last Supper. The falling away, or the departure of Judas Iscariot. This man of sin was revealed after he seemed to be a follower of Christ. What happened after this? Jesus was "raptured"... stolen away in the night by the thieves that were the Pharisees servants. What happened after this? The Judgement of the sins of all mankind. This would equate to Judgment Day... or the Day of the Lord. I think that these things pre-tell and are a prophecy in "picture" form of what will happen in the end times. These were the last days of Christ Jesus, and He is the mercy and grace of God, so that the last days of God's mercy and grace...this dispensation may play out similarly. The great falling away, apostasy ... is as all those who, like Judas Iscariot, who seemed to be followers of Jesus .... trade Jesus for a worldly treasure. This is the apostate church of our day. Their leaving off from following reveal them as the "man of sin". It is not just one man, as in the case of Judas, but a great number of men... these all are revealed and their hearts are uncovered and their sin is still working in them to do evil. Just as they stole Jesus(God's anointed) away, like a thief in the night.... God will justly, and in a poetic justice of turn around is fair play... steal away His Bride, in like manner. I think that the scriptures have so many layers of truth in them. You cannot just look at the surface for the truth of them. The Spirit of God shows the deeper things hidden in them. There has been a great departure...a aposticia and the man of sin....many men.... have been revealed as liars and not true followers, as Judas. The next thing to happen is the stealing away... and then, the Judgement Day of the Lord, when men who still bear their sin will be judged by God. We all are looking for the anti-christ, and surely he is shortly to appear, but the spirit of anti-christ has "a son" in the body of the apostate church. Understand this layer of truth hidden in this passage.
@reya12954 ай бұрын
Stop teaching false doctrine ! You cannot argue the words of Jesus Himself. Matt 24:4-5 And Jesus answered them, “See that no one leads you astray. 5 For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray. Matt 24:29-30 Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
@reya12954 ай бұрын
@@KeithGreenshields all I did was post bible verses. Don’t get angry with me. Take it to the Lord. My belief is that it’s a false doctrine and it’s dangerous. That’s my opinion.
@reya12954 ай бұрын
@@KeithGreenshields Sir, if you felt offended by my comment then I apologize to you. I was commenting on the video itself. I don’t know you and you don’t know me. There is no reason for you to attack me personally.
@reya12954 ай бұрын
@@KeithGreenshields Yeah, I’ll keep praying for my salvation daily while living in this broken world and maybe I will see you in the clouds.
@reya12954 ай бұрын
@@KeithGreenshields Oh, I will keep praying 😃... But stay awake at all times, praying that you may have strength to escape all these things that are going to take place, and to stand before the Son of Man.” Lk 21:36. Have a good evening
@WJRoss-fc5dr4 ай бұрын
People let's put this false pre trib rapture twisting of scripture to rest once and for all!!! read the bible and stop ignoring scripture that is all part of the prophecy!!! Math 13 49 So shall it be at the End of the world the angels shall come forth and sever the wicked from the just. Math 24 29 immediately after tribulation Math 24 46 -51...this is about the.pre trib believer who loses faith when he delayeth his coming Rev 18 4 come out of her my people.when? Who is the church? Bride and bridegroom..Rev 18 23 their voices are quiet..when? Mathew 13 37 to 43...the evil go first! The dead shall rise And those that remain.!!! Who is the elect that can't be fooled by the antichrist? Unbelievable people.stop watching false prophets and read it yourselves once and for all.every verse including Paul's fits into this prophecy if placed at the right time. Yes the jews are treated different.who is the 144 000 saints that pre tribbers think are saved before them?? (Numbers read it!) What are the 2 witnesses doing in tribulation?? Read it! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH Amen
@jamesmoore21432 ай бұрын
Rapture is the mark of the beast
@Psalm91Covered4 ай бұрын
Jesus IS coming! And NO Paul was not teaching false doctrine as he explains in vs 3 by stating: "let no man decieve you by any means" (not by spirit, word, or letter as if from us) And then goes on to give the signs of The Lords Return, (vs 3 APOSTACY, ANTICHRIST REVEALED) which he then reminds them in vs 5, that he had already told them these same very things, which DISPROVE any pretrib rapture It's not necessary to continue to teach a false teaching on a pretrib rapture, especially when you have to manipulate scripture and words to fit it in.... THE BIBLE GIVES STRICT WARNING AGAINST CHANGING HIS WORD! 2 Thess 2: 3 "falling away" "APOSTACIA" apostacy or departure from the faith and belief....falling away or forsake....leaving the faith....adios! FALSE ??Departure, as in rapture?? Not hardly! ****This is how far false teachers will go to make a false doctrine fit TRUTH: APOSTACIA (Apostacy) comes from APOSTACION APOSTACION: departure, in the sense of a divorce. (A separating from the relationship) STOP WITH THE FALSE NONSENSE! The Lord is returning just as is written and shame on anyone who continues to distort scripture for a FALSE IDEA! 2 Thess 2 is CLEAR! HE WILL NOT COME UNTIL THERE IS AN "APOSTACY" of followers and THE ANTICHRIST MAN IS REVEALED! The revealing of the man of sin will be when JESUS RETURNS! Those who know scripture will understand and know who he is (Daniel), but the world will be taken in by him and decieved, thinking he is God (2THESS2, REVELATION)...(The world will worship the beast) vs8 tells us: AT CHRISTS RETURN, the wicked one (antichrist and beast system) will be revealed for who he is, and will be destroyed by the Spirit of HIS mouth and the brightness of HIS COMING! THATS WHAT "THE" TRUTH OF SCRIPTURE SAYS and TEACHES! IF YOU quit trying to fit it into a pretrib rapture, which is YOUR DESIRE, than The LORD will reveal its correct truth to anyone who wants THE TRUTH!🎉
@Psalm91Covered4 ай бұрын
@KeithGreenshields 😆 🤣 quite a list of accusations??? Of course you believe in that....Your belief in it doesn't make it correct, especially when the whole of scripture says otherwise.... SCRIPTURE "RIGHTLY" DIVIDED through The inspiration of The Holy Spirit is what we must rely on, not just mens interpretations, and twisting of scripture of how they want it to be There are billions of decieved people in the world, and many are within whats called "the kingdom of heaven" JESUS said there are "wheat and tares" and His Angels "WILL" sort them out in the end! (When JESUS RETURNS) Matt 13:24-30 Tares: lil to no fruit or FAKE FRUIT; to be burned (WickedDestroyed at His Coming) Wheat: Genuine Fruit, Truth, and love for JESUS; into the barns (Gathered to HIM to Everlasting life) Sorry if I offended you but THE TRUTH must and will prevail.... Call me what you want, but Never sorry for spreading my LORDS TRUTH!
@WJRoss-fc5dr3 ай бұрын
@KeithGreenshields what a wicked thing you are for distorting scripture. You left something out in one of your points 2thesalonians 3:5-6 And the Lord direct your hearts into the love of God and into the patient waiting for Christ. Now we command you brethren in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ that YE WITHDRAW YOURSELVES FROM EVERY BROTHER THAT WALKS DISORDERLY AND NOT AFTER THE TRADITION HE RECEIVED FROM US. This is Not about rapture.Jesus is coming very soon for you that's why you cannot hide your vileness. I rebuke you in the name of JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD GOD AND SAVIOR AMEN.
@Frank-st6gd4 ай бұрын
Just saw Solar eclipse on the 2 nd of October Amen and Amen 🙏
@hughbramlett76893 ай бұрын
Revelation 10:6-7; the last trump is the seventh trumpet. The passage even says it"s the "mystery" as in 1 Corinthians 15:51. Revelation 14:1 states that it is actually the 144,000 who returns with Christ at the second coming, not a "raptured church." There is not a verse in the Bible that clearly places a rapture event before the tribulation. Tbat's why clandestine documents have to be sought. The early church didn't teach such a doctrine because they were being hunted down and killed. It would have been a foreign concept to them. Jesus didn't teach the doctrine either, as evidenced by John 6:39-44, 16:33 and 17:15. Also, refer to Matthew 24:21-31. Verse 21 introduces the Great Tribulation. Verse 22 says the days of the tribulation are shortened for the elect's sake. Why would this be necessary if they are gone? Verse 29; "Immediately after the tribulation of those days..." In verse 31, the elect are gathered... In Strongs 1588, there is one type of elect. It ain't "tribulation saints" or Jews. So, this is more than enough to assert beyond a reasonable doubt that any coming of the Lord is after or at least a significant ways into the tribulation.
@Vonneti3 ай бұрын
There are also verses that would seem to indicate a post tribulation rapture. Could it be that there will be two, a pre-trib and a post-trib rapture? Those who believe in a post tribulation rapture will get what they believe for. And those who believe in a pre tribulation rapture will also get what they believe for. Be it unto you according to your faith
@johnbrodeur583 ай бұрын
Actually there are 3, the glorious appearing pre trib rapture of the Body of Christ. Then 1260 days later the 2 witnesses are called up. And then post trib resurrection of the mark of the beast martyrs.
@Frank-st6gd4 ай бұрын
Proof of A Pre trib Rapture. Pay Attention to the Cloud and Clouds Jesus appears In and With. Acts chapter 1 verses 9 10 11 Cloud. In Red Luke chapter 21 verses 27 and 28 Jesus is coming In A Cloud the Rapture. In Revelation chapter 1 verse 7 Jesus is coming With the Clouds when he comes back to the Mt of Olive the second coming KJV. Hopefully this October Amen 🙏
@cadedrury3 ай бұрын
so he’s coming on the clouds 3 times?
@Frank-st6gd3 ай бұрын
@@cadedrury Luke chapter 21 verses 27 and 28 the Rapture. Coming In A Cloud. The second coming Revelation chapter 1 verse 7 With CLOUDS. The second coming KJV. Read it carefully Amen 🙏
@cadedrury3 ай бұрын
@@Frank-st6gd okay but where is it prophecied in the OT? would the prophets not have let us know?
@Frank-st6gd3 ай бұрын
@@cadedrury God's Ways are Higher than Man's. Is the creation Wiser than the Creator. My comment and Answer would be NO. People need to keep studying the King James Bible. You can also ask God for the Answers. Amen and Amen 🙏👍
@cadedrury3 ай бұрын
@@Frank-st6gd okay but where is it prophecied in the OT? would the prophets not have let us know? where is the prophecy about removing the church? what does the rest of Luke 21 talk about ? you can’t just take it out to fit the narrative you pray for. What other scripture backs up those verses being a Pre trib Rapture
@skipschauer55353 ай бұрын
Any day can be a rapture event for a believer! We as Christians are to present the gospel and not worry things like this.
@lodwill51164 ай бұрын
And them saved and hidden threw tribulation are Jews, . . But most mix the 2 main gospels. And will not look 👀 grace ambassadors n Jim brackin n Ron knight n steave Atwood n Jim devney n Richard Jordan n Lesfeldick ministries explains 😮
@WilliamH4902 ай бұрын
The Sinai text is a fraud. And so is the great falling away.
@WilliamH4902 ай бұрын
@ there were newspaper articles about it being a fraud at the time and if you actually studied you could find the information.
@WilliamH4902 ай бұрын
@ no, little man YOU YOU YOU insulted me. You want to ACT like you didn’t but you did. And no little boy you have not forgotten more than I know but you are needy and neeeeeeed to think you did to feel better about yourself. It’s a fraud as I stated and you have not studied as much as I have or you would be telling me what I tried to tell you. You could have just said something like I never heard that or that’s interesting, where did you get that information or lots of things but you went straight to ego.
@WilliamH4902 ай бұрын
@ if you go fix your comment I will gladly fix mine and we can discuss the fraud of Tischendorf?
@blessedbeliever87254 ай бұрын
I cannot find one place where the Bible states there is a 7 year TRIBULATION PERIOD. I can show you many places that state a 3.5 year tribulation….also shown as 42 months, 1260 days, time, times, and a half….all meaning 3.5 years. So, maybe the rapture does occur BEFORE Daniel’s 70th week pursuant to 9:27….but is it possible for the rapture to also maybe occur before the mid point of the week, around the abomination of desolation? Is it possible maybe God’s wrath only begins at that time…the time of the Great Tribulation? I’ve studied this for 40 years and still cannot say I am 100% sure of what God is telling me through revealed scripture. Maybe I’m just a slow learner, but not to lift myself up. I do have a Law Degree, a Masters Degree, and a Bachelor Degree, so it’s not that my IQ is found wanting…..so why can’t I find the drop the mic evidence to seal this deal and give me complete peace of mind? Maybe, this is what God believes I need….to keep me humble for one. Lol. Anyhow, like I’ve said, any argument you have I’m sure I’ve heard it and considered it, but I’m always all open ears and eyes. Shalom my family…BB PS I absolutely hope the rapture is before the 70th week and am always watching and waiting to see our Lord in the clouds….
@LastDaySaintJames4 ай бұрын
STUDY THE RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD. PAUL SAYS IT COMES FIRST THEN THE RAPTURE. JESUS CLEARLY TOLD US 4 TIMES John 6 39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again 👉at the last day. 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up 👉at the last day. 44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up 👉at the last day. 54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up 👉at the last day. .
@Knife_Collector2 ай бұрын
1 Thessalonians 4:16 it says with the trumpet of God. 1 Corinthians 15:52 says at the last trumpet. Both describing the same thing. Now in Revelation 11:15, And the seventh angel sounded his trumpet (last). And the 7th Trumpet is when he actually returns, not seven years prior.
@Knife_Collector2 ай бұрын
@@KeithGreenshields so, if I wrote a book about men dressed in blue, and some in grey, using muskets, fighting over what they thought was freedom, and the men in blue won, I couldn't be talking about the civil war, because I wrote it much later? And that is what Revelation means,, a revealing. It explains things that were to be revealed at a later time. That's why it goes all the way back to Daniel explaining things. All Paul knew, is there was going to be a trump, a last trump even. It was up to John to explain it all.
@rogerkreil33143 ай бұрын
I recommend reading “Victorious Eschatology” by Harold Eberle and Martin Trench. They show that a lot of Revelation already happened.
@bullramis41794 ай бұрын
Jesus said behold I've foretold you all things and he didn't say he was coming twice or snatching anyone away! Judgment begins with the pulpit. New testament written between 300-400 AD and disciples were illiterate.
@bullramis41794 ай бұрын
@@KeithGreenshields there's only one twinkling transformation event at the furtherest trump and it's not Donald! Paul wrote 2nd letter to Thessalonians because they thought they missed it! The kingdom is not to be observed. Jesus said that they'll tear down this temple and he'd rebuild it in 3 days. Serpent seed is still here. The prince of the air has you fooled.
@bullramis41794 ай бұрын
@@KeithGreenshields only one twinkling transformation event at the furtherest trump and it's not Donald! Paul wrote 2nd letter to Thessalonians because they thought they missed it. Whose the prince of air? When Jesus appeared to John on Patmos he told him to write letters to Asia or far east and not the kingdoms Daniel spoke of. There's no love in your reply. You lean on your own understanding.
@slabslab-ej3mw4 ай бұрын
Apostasia means falling away from the faith. The purpose of this video is to persuade you of the absurd, that the falling away is the rapture. This video features Roman Catholic overtones. The channel likely has an ax to grind - that there will be no falling away (from the Roman Catholic Church). Recall the Vatican has repeatedly stated that you cannot go to Heaven unless you are under the authority of Rome.
@andymodules17954 ай бұрын
The Rapture is not biblical. It claims that Jesus will return twice. It follows Gnostic doctrine that the world must be left because it is contaminated. Jesus said that his followers are to be salt n light, to bring God's kingdom into the contaminated world, not to leave it. All religions teach that we must leave the world, but Jesus did not say we should leave to avoid suffering, but that to follow him is to take up your cross. The people who believe this doctrine also show that it is false by the self focused lives that they live, without attempting to preach the gospel to the lost and without sellng all the have etc. These people still live as before, depending on the jobs they have or insurance. They have believed the feel good apostasy that no Christian will suffer, whilst ignoring the martyrs of the church, the deaths of the apostles and those now daily persecuted for their belief in Christ
@gospeltractslove4 ай бұрын
Avoid sufferings? I don’t think so. The truth is hundreds of thousands of Christians have been put to death just in the last few years in Nigeria and more in other countries. God’s people have been suffering since the fall of Adam, and their not waiting for a easy way out, the rapture ready are busier spreading the gospel now than ever before.
@andresucharew7634 ай бұрын
@@KeithGreenshieldsthere is no rapture it is false doctrine. I hope you will change to know the truth. We have been in the tribulations since the first Pentecost. Have a great day!!
@andresucharew7634 ай бұрын
@@gospeltractslovethere is no rapture. It is false doctrine.
@drdarrylschroeder56914 ай бұрын
Second Coming was 5 June 1941. No Rapture. Each EARNS ascension after attaining the 5D frequency in spiritual development.
@joekirby47074 ай бұрын
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@JesseChasteen4 ай бұрын
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@drdarrylschroeder56914 ай бұрын
@@joekirby4707 Greetings - When the Lord Jesias (His real name) appeared to the twelve Adept Initiates of the Silver Leaf Lodge of the Great White Brotherhood in their Sanctuary at Glastonbury, Somerset (being the heart centre of the Earth He was fourteen feet tall, His head just under the ceiling and managing to make Himself partially visible between His twelfth and our third dimensions to the highly evolved Congregants who had lived in the early Yanini (Mu, Lemuria). The Lectures continued until the 28th September of that year, being the date of the Second and Final Re-ascension back to the Father. He will never return, His work finished for the Earth. He is not working on the Intergalactic Council of Light in the Seat of Promulgation of Love for the twelve Universes. There is a new religion every 2160 years, the current being the Silver Age of Aquarius which the Lord introduced together with the new Ascended Master and the new Ray of God which brings in a further facet for human consciousness in our spiritual evolution and the ascension of our precious Mother Earth, Lady Gaia. Books are available in six volumes revealed at the time by the Lord and the Angelic Hierarchy (the 12 Rays or Sons of GOD) from The WInds of Truth website at minimal cost. Blessings - Rev Dr DHA Schroeder PhD/Ministry
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@@JesseChasteen Please see my reply to joekirby.
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@@JesseChasteen Greetings. Kindly refer to the Ascension books of Diana Cooper who has as her spiritual Adviser Lord Kumeka, one of the Sons of GOD, an Ascended Master on the Intergalactic Council of Light. When the Lord appeared to address the 12 Adept Initiates of the Silver Leaf Lodge of the Great White Brotherhood in their Sanctuary at Glastonbury, Somerset, He was fourteen feet tall, His head just under the ceiling and managing to make Himself partially visible between His twelfth and our third dimensions to those of the highly evolved Congregants in the Assembly, who had already been incarnate in the early Earth, Yanini/Mu/Lemuria 6,5 million years ago - not your common or garden sneering American. The Lecture continued until the 28th September of that year, being the date of the Second and final Re-ascension back to the Father. He will never return, His work for the Earth finished. He is now working on the Intergalactic Council of Light in the Seat of Promulgation of Love for the twelve Universes. At that time, the Lord also introduced the new Silver Age of Aquarius with its new Ascended Master, Saint Germain, to whom He handed over in 1954, and the new Ray of GOD, which brings in a further facet for human spiritual evolution and the ascension of our precious Lady Gaia, Mother Earth. The six volumes released by the Lord and the Angelic Hierarchy (the twelve Sons of GOD) are available from The Wind of Truth Trust website at minimal cost. Blessings - Rev Dr DHA Schroeder PhD/Ministry