This is a lesson for single mothers who have children from previous marriage be vigilant think of your daughter’s safety first😅
@edithondelfish-wiseman94407 ай бұрын
Most step fathers always attack the females stepchildren no matter how nice a stepfathers are to their female step children they always sexually attach the females.
@MrPaultopp7 ай бұрын
Or women who are married or remarried ? No difference really
@hollydaugherty26207 ай бұрын
@@MrPaultoppThe definition of a single mother is a woman who has a child without the assistance of a spouse. If you have a divorced spouse helping you raise AT ALL, even outside the home, you are no longer a "single mother". So no, not the same thing. If you're already married and have a man around your kid you should have already known his background before you married him.
@edwinacaparelli99117 ай бұрын
And sons
@MsDreamofmine7 ай бұрын
Absolutely!! All children
@robyn8747 ай бұрын
Great interview Gray, the scariest thing with these creeps is that people think they're socially immature, quirky or harmless. Whilst they're living a double life
@edwinacaparelli99117 ай бұрын
Exactly. Everybody was conned. But yet people are pointing fingers at mom. Mom would be even more of a victim because she has feelings for him and wants to believe that he loves her. I don't understand why people are so cruel to the mother who has just lost her daughter and I believe she had no part in this.
@godzilla92687 ай бұрын
@@edwinacaparelli9911 Dude. Did you even see the mom's reactions during her interview? No emotions. Pretty much smiling throughout the video. Like hello! Your daughter was missing.
@edwinacaparelli99117 ай бұрын
@@godzilla9268 I did. Just like Burke Ramsey, some people smile when they are super uncomfortable. I'm trying to look at things from an objective lens. And many people look flat or awkward when they are indeed innocent
@godzilla92687 ай бұрын
@@edwinacaparelli9911 You really really lack street smart. And in case if you haven't been catching up. The police just now said the story the mom has been telling detectives doesn't add up to the investigation. Now the cops are looking at her suspicious. I think it's time for you to stop being so naive and start thinking like an adult. If the person looks crazy and awkward. Especially if it involves a very serious crime. 99 percent of the time they are hiding something.
@TriciaSams7 ай бұрын
@@edwinacaparelli9911 I agree. Too many women like to hate other women before they really even know all the facts. They like to think they're superior and would never be fooled.
@DonnaDouglas-x3x7 ай бұрын
So does this mean Jenn lied about their relationship, and allowed him around her daughter when she was not home. This is getting weirder and weirder.
@Woodstock2317 ай бұрын
I tend to believe he was the one lying , but it would sound normal for him to be there without her being home . Since they lived together for a while
@annarchy6657 ай бұрын
No, she is a liar. She lied when she said "we" dropped her off. She never gave a straight answer as to when the last time she saw madeline. She is a liar who won't take a stand on her daughter's behalf.
@soulshaker90187 ай бұрын
@@annarchy665 I agree , I think Mom was getting some $ "help" as long as she turned the other cheek and thats why she so often allowed him to stay there even when they weren't "seeing eachother exclusively "... Mom knew.
@3isaiah617 ай бұрын
i think she pimped her daughter out...disgusting!
@Woodstock2317 ай бұрын
@@rachelburton8689 they did at one time live together..
@CoolHandLukeDuke7 ай бұрын
If he wasn't working and had money, he was either getting it from Jen, his parents, or he was making money illegally, perhaps selling CSAM material.
@jeanmendez7187 ай бұрын
What’s CSAM material?
@Astral_Clover7 ай бұрын
@@jeanmendez718I’m guessing it’s CP
@Astral_Clover7 ай бұрын
@@jeanmendez718child sexual assault material? No clue… but definitely related.
@MegNotTheStallion7 ай бұрын
@@jeanmendez718 Child S** abuse material
@CoolHandLukeDuke7 ай бұрын
@@jeanmendez718- Child S*x Ab*se Material
@kcchicana6 ай бұрын
This is one of the most informative interviews about Stephan that ive heard. Good job.
@jenniferrevilla52987 ай бұрын
When a guy prowls the house in the middle of the night, they are not checking for intruders or thought they heard something, unless they are special ops, they are messing with the kids in the house. I found out the hard way.
@luv2luv7207 ай бұрын
That was Extremely interesting! They were not even together but still acting like together. Why?
@addisperez82057 ай бұрын
Allegedly Madeline told some friends and her mom that her mom's b.f. was S.A.' ing her,but her mom didn't believe her I wonder if that's why they were living in separate bedrooms in Jenn's house. Jenn said that she had an argument with Madeline. I wonder if it was because Madeline was telling her mom about what Stephan was doing to Madeline.
@MrPaultopp7 ай бұрын
Speculation
@hollydaugherty26207 ай бұрын
@@MrPaultoppDo you have some weird personal attachment to this case? Why are you obsessively commenting about how these people did NOTHING wrong? Pull your head out of there and get real.
@dudemorris77697 ай бұрын
@@hollydaugherty2620do you!? You do realize that you can absolutely be sued for defamation of character, as well as many other crimes for making salacious comments of facts that aren’t true at all?? There’s one thing to speculate, but actually claiming someone did something or knew something they didn’t and claim it’s fact, you and any one else open themselves up to civil lawsuits that can take every thing you will ever own? So stop making comments on what someone else is commenting, who’s absolutely correct. Look up Nick Sandmann and see how many news stations, celebrities, yt’ers, regular joes & janes have lost millions upon millions for making claims of “fact” about a situation & then sued and lost over someone claiming they know for fact information never released by LE at any time. THINK before you start condemning or making accusations or allegations that you have absolutely not a clue of.
@dudemorris77697 ай бұрын
@@MrPaultoppI so hope a bunch of these people end up with huge lawsuits & then go on tv and social media boohooing about being civilly sued for repeating what they thought was the truth. Unless it comes from LE and is verified, you never make ridiculous comments or statements of fact. It’s why every one of these channels puts disclaimers and say it’s only speculation. I believe this woman commenting has a real Hang up, is a pedo & knows more than she thinks she does from personal experience by her form of commenting.
@terribeingessner86367 ай бұрын
This interview was very enlightening for timeline. Thanks Gray.
@brendapitman34267 ай бұрын
That caller needs to talk to his kids!!!!🤬
@FranchesSchnell7 ай бұрын
Right, like he waking up at 4am? No, not in my house w my kids! Many sickos abuse both boys and girls.
@meglowe70477 ай бұрын
The male who abused my son did the same. Would know all about kids games and clothing, skateboarder, acted 15 instead of 32. No job. Evangelical
@MiraculousManifestation7 ай бұрын
Yep, they like childish things, that's one of the signs professionals say to look out for.
@joycewright53867 ай бұрын
Evangelical? Maybe he pretended to be but obviously he wasn’t.
@sisterandrobloxfun70727 ай бұрын
😪
@FoosNotes7 ай бұрын
@@joycewright5386predators infest the churches.
@rubyoro07 ай бұрын
Meglowe, I’m sorry he did that to your son.
@Lilredridinghood5557 ай бұрын
I think mom knew about inappropriate relationship but ignored it
@crm2087 ай бұрын
Yes because her mother did not want to lose him ( this creep) ugh😡
@MrPaultopp7 ай бұрын
THINK…..That’s the word……speculation Enough of the pitchfork thing ….
@mimid63547 ай бұрын
@@MrPaultopp you must be weirdly connected to this case👀🤔 You keep leaving comments suggesting that these people have done nothing wrong. Very disturbing
@dudemorris77697 ай бұрын
@@crm208hmm, that’s why he told his friend she broke up with him, and had him move out. Are you actually listening to the video?
@marivanzijl54657 ай бұрын
I've been following this case since the beginning. The picture of this girl on her birthday shows a lot. My thoughts was and still is: Maddie was pregnant....if I'm wrong: then please forgive me.
@maxdugan2117 ай бұрын
My thoughts too. Like 7mos or more.
@WickedWest5127 ай бұрын
@maxdugan211 you think that little girl was 7 months pregnant?! 🙄 you haven't seen to many pregnant women have you?
@WickedWest5127 ай бұрын
@@maxdugan211 you haven't seen to many pregnant women have you? 🙄
@WickedWest5127 ай бұрын
Let's just wait till the autopsy comes back before we start jumping to that.
@marivanzijl54657 ай бұрын
@@WickedWest512 Nope, someone else said that, not me. If so: she was definitely in her first trimester...My question is: For what other reasons would he have to get rid of this young girl? It is just my opinion, and if I'm wrong then: Please forgive me...
@valtoton29827 ай бұрын
Beware of any guy living with his parents in Northport! 😳😳😳 First Brian Laundrie now this creep!
@jessiev22657 ай бұрын
I know this is so weird , I came here to say just that! I live right next door to n. port.
@IvanVikktor7157 ай бұрын
Any guy who’s 40 and is living with his parents & doesn’t work despite no disability is crazy to me. My parents had plenty of money and space and I literally moved out the day after I graduated High School because that’s what you do. What a Weirdo
@crm2087 ай бұрын
Any guy anywhere. Sounds like a Mama's boy, who loved young girls. He needed the cow to get to the calf🥺🐮
@jenniferrevilla52987 ай бұрын
And...the Mom protects and has protected this one.
@m.r.e.57317 ай бұрын
Oh, come on. Never visit CA or OR , then. Many famous serial killers there.
@PerfectTilt7 ай бұрын
That interview was another Gray masterclass 🔥
@vintagebarbie40537 ай бұрын
Just another reason I believe the death penalty will serve as justice
@SiriusBlack787 ай бұрын
Great job on the video Gray. You did an excellent job getting key pieces of information. You really have a way with interviewing people, very good questions. Thank you ❤
@Woodstock2317 ай бұрын
Yes , also pulling the guy back to the conversation /questions gray had .
@Kare19497 ай бұрын
That was a great interview Gray
@pixieblu78127 ай бұрын
Great Interview Gray. I agree that the Mom's assumed 'deficit' helped him in the grooming process. In saying that, I am still sitting on the fence about Mom's knowledge, whether she knew and was not able to compute due to the deficit or if she was choosing him over her.
@AstroMoonGoddess7 ай бұрын
Keep ‘em coming, Gray. I hope that LE can use this information you are gathering. Good work!
@jessicaschubach41747 ай бұрын
Very interesting interview clarifying the status of their relationship and when he did and didn't live there. Great job Gray and thank you! Also, shout out to the friend for speaking out.
@SpencerB517 ай бұрын
As a female, if you look at her picture the day before the murder, the abdomen of the dress, her fullness in her body and face… I think she was likely pregnant I guess we’ll find out after the autopsy, but as a female, I do believe she has the appearance of being at least six months, pregnant or more. IMO
@marleylove5107 ай бұрын
I think if she was that far along her mother would have noticed that.
@monicalynn71877 ай бұрын
If you see her in that dress in other pics, it doesn't look the same. I thought that originally, but then I saw some other angles and it doesn't appear the same.
@oOIIIMIIIOo7 ай бұрын
According to the structure of the dress I can not tell in that pic and girls can do a huge body change at that age as boys can do. The daughter of the sister of my sil was a little, very slim baby faced child at 12 when I saw her last and around ten months later I saw a proper, taller, boobed, more matured face-changed teenager with hips. A very significant change. 😄
@Tricia49597 ай бұрын
I think so too. She looked like maybe in the 1st trimester. i could be wrong.
@Woodstock2317 ай бұрын
I don’t believe she was pregnant- the monster would have made sure of her taking the morning after pill to not get caught.
@crimetimeAU7 ай бұрын
10:20 how convenient if he was sleeping in a spare room at Maddie's Mother's house. Makes it easier to get access to Maddi while mother is asleep ESPECIALLY if he is up all night due to Adderall addiction.
@allyw13647 ай бұрын
And "gaming" 😥
@nl78877 ай бұрын
Omg that would explain the eyebags Maddie had. Adderall can makes you hyperfocus for hours he might have been "gaming" with Maddie all night 😢
@lindahowell17877 ай бұрын
Thanks Gray for sharing. Good call from him.
@sumpursun7 ай бұрын
You randomly popped up in my feed - First I’m seen your work - Immediately Subscribed ✌🏻
@robinlennon25807 ай бұрын
I gave a thumbs up. Great interview Gray. I am glad you contacted the police. They are probably very busy right now but may need to speak to him at a later time. This case upset a lot of people who are parents and if they heard the affidavit it was so graphic and shocking to hear. I hope many of these children cases they can seal or redact that kind of information from the public. Good job Gray. Thank you and all in chat again for the donations to some many organizations to help these victims.🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️For Madeline Soto.
@ellenhood13567 ай бұрын
If he didn't live there why was he taking her to school?
@ellenhood13567 ай бұрын
@traceyhall-green6191 exactly
@allyw13647 ай бұрын
He had moved back in ,they broke up for awhile......obviously being a Sociopath he manipulated the Mother BIGTIME
@DonnaLena17 ай бұрын
LE says Stephan was sleeping there. He was buying TOYS even though he was broke CREEPY
@annabanana28547 ай бұрын
Single moms... please consider your babies before yourselves and the men you bring into your life. Stop bringing strange men into your home without fully knowing them!!! The worst scene for me in this tragedy is the mom consoling the boyfriend during the news interview..... what the actual fiction is happening there????
@joanneclarke9527 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly 🤔
@edwardelric6036 ай бұрын
Women should condemn men who do things like watch cartoons and collect toys. Big red flag. 99% chance they are a ped
@hollyfabiani4 ай бұрын
Its usually a family member. Sometimes even cousins who aren't even adults. And married women, please consider why your own husband wants a child.
@purplespaceship2417Ай бұрын
You can never fully know a man. That's the thing. Many many many women are mistaken about the men they think are theirs....not necessarily when it comes to p3d0philia but other things as well.
@bayshorelaw69707 ай бұрын
Gray, this is big. Great work man! If this goes to trial, we will see this man on the stand. He appears to be one of the only friends Stephan was on good terms with and seeing regularly leading up to the murder. He doesn't realize yet,, but here are probably minor things,,,conversations and behaviors he thought little of,, that will give big insight into events taking place behind close doors. Police are overloaded now but no doubt he will get a call and not only a call they will ask to sit down with him. Police and Prosecuting Attny. Great work Gray
@monicalynn71877 ай бұрын
Classic groomer behaviors. They literally describe those behaviors in their explanation.
@Wop-a-hoe7 ай бұрын
No, their is much more than classic behavior. Soy boys have only been around a few decades. Most men do not live off their parents. TY
@DonnaLena17 ай бұрын
All of these friends have habits that give them something to talk to younger teens about
@Wop-a-hoe7 ай бұрын
@@DonnaLena1 WORD❣️ Plus Parents need to do better😃
@jeansalzman2.0127 ай бұрын
This was a great interview. You asked clear questions and clarified the answers! Thanks, Gray.
@mariatorres97897 ай бұрын
I thought so, too. Good solid interviewing.
@kimshine40117 ай бұрын
It's so weird that he was at the birthday party and the mother wasn't. The one thing that really bothers me is when the mother said she didn't know her address or how to get home.
@IvanVikktor7157 ай бұрын
It feels weird I agree, but you’d be surprised how many teenagers just don’t know the things we did growing up. Drop a pin on your google maps when ur home that’s ur home. No one knows phone numbers either. I know it’s not quite the same but you get my point. Idk
@kimshine40117 ай бұрын
@@IvanVikktor715 really? I'd want to make sure my kids memorized their address and phone number just in case they lost their phone.
@deborahvandenheuvel19047 ай бұрын
She was 13 but had autistic tendencies. Her mother said that.
@HermitLady7 ай бұрын
Nah, this mother is weird. Did anyone else find it odd she described her as “blonde and blue eyed”.
@blazee38957 ай бұрын
@@deborahvandenheuvel1904I don’t trust her mom.
@MariaLopez-mi4ol7 ай бұрын
Married people still live together n are broke up n one lives downstairs n one lives upstairs.....BUT THIS GUY WAS MESSING WITH THIS LITTLE GIRL.
@WickedWest5127 ай бұрын
Me and my ex live together. He became handicap right as we was splitting up. He lived 6 months out of home but couldn't make it and no longer could work so I let him come back. He is my kids dad. They are already grown and didn't want them to have to take him in. It's not at all easy. But this situation is just wrong all the way around .
@SFVGIRL7 ай бұрын
Good interview! It was good hearing from another man who knew this pos. Its always so bizarre when we discover that someone we knew is responsible for something we didn't really forsee. What a tragedy for Maddie. ❤
@MakeupMobster7 ай бұрын
This interview was pretty interesting. I felt the mother was medicated in that second interview that was done. Something was very off about her. This whole situation sounds strange. Seems he went back because he was worried this poor little girl would tell her mother. Very strange he still had a relationship with her even though she was broken up with him. I think he preyed on the mom. Sounds like she was mentally unwell.
@THopkins77 ай бұрын
The mom may very well be involved.
@BarbaraCameron-wp9mj7 ай бұрын
At least became aware. Maybe that's why she kicked him out. But then why let him back in the house. I can't help but feel. She is somewhat responsible because she knew something and let it go on. You don't have someone in your house that's after your child.
@realitymister7 ай бұрын
Arrest Mom. She has already lied.
@THopkins77 ай бұрын
@rachelburton8689 the mom has lied about the daughter being spotted on the webcams early that morning. On another Webcam the daughter was already dead - propped up in the car. There is a history of abuse Madeline's friends say was reported to school & they believed mother knew. So why did she continue to let a 37 year old man live in her house with no job. Disney was a brief gig. His past friends say they were broken up. A bad situation all the way around. At the very least, the mother is guilty of child endangerment.
@THopkins77 ай бұрын
@@rachelburton8689 I wouldn't trust jlr.
@Rue9947 ай бұрын
This is why speaking to different people is so interesting. You have three people who knew this monster and 2 of the 3 thought he was very bizarre while the other considers him nerdy, jobless much of the time, but otherwise very normal.
@lizparsons97487 ай бұрын
Thanks Gray. We are learning so much from his friends.
@GrayHughesInvestigates7 ай бұрын
I did check this guys number and his phone number leads to the guys name who called me and emailed me.
@paulettelehnert82227 ай бұрын
👍
@leyley19707 ай бұрын
He was a GROOMER and did that with everyone around him..
@WindTurbineSyndrome7 ай бұрын
I believe this guy knew Stephan as a friend. No problem. It's always shocking to find out what people you know are capable of.
@paulettelehnert82227 ай бұрын
@@WindTurbineSyndrome Hmm, yep!
@briec5797 ай бұрын
I have not been on here in ages...life...but this case....no words. I am an RN in the ER at one of the top three busiest hospitals. There is no shortage of horrible people doing the most nefarious things to children. Never gets easy to hear but you do have to shut down a lot in order to do the job. All we can hope for is SOME form of justice for Madeline and the others out there. Great job with this case coverage. I think it speaks volumes that people call and trust you not to berate and skew their interviews.
@marelize97267 ай бұрын
Thank you, Gray. Great work.👼❤️👼
@GypsySparkle7 ай бұрын
Nice job getting all the good key info. I came and subscribed after hearing you being name dropped on other channels. Thank you for keeping everyone updated.
@35daphni7 ай бұрын
Great interview!! Thanks Gray
@mmklaar69485 ай бұрын
Hey, Gray, I saw you on Vinnie tonight and I wanted to tell you I appreciate your hard work and HEART ♥️ you put into these cases. Screw the trolls 🧌! You do you! Keep up the great work! ♥️🌻
@incomitatus7 ай бұрын
In the last day or two, everyone & their grandmother have been posting interviews, short news captures or podcasts on this tragedy, yours was actually quite interesting. Lots of new information on this creep, commendable job Mr. Hughes & great questions.
@kassanova11237 ай бұрын
Great interview… so scary how these people just blend in like your everyday normal person.
@lisamurphy44387 ай бұрын
Make sure to hit that 👍 everyone. This info needs to be heard.
@lydiamitchell68147 ай бұрын
I am speculating / guessing he was sneaking into Madeline’s room while the mother was on her meds asleep! I have a friend this happened to at this same age! 😢
@someguy97787 ай бұрын
He was? You saw?
@lydiamitchell68147 ай бұрын
@@someguy9778 I edited to make clearer what I ment. Pure speculation!!!
@lydiamitchell68147 ай бұрын
@@someguy9778 let me make it more clear… I was only speculating/ guessing!
@hollyfabiani4 ай бұрын
@@someguy9778good thing for touch dna these days.
@GrayHughesInvestigates7 ай бұрын
if you knew stephan or are friends with Jenn and know the situation or the history email me at grayhuze2@gmail.com
@ambermaiden74187 ай бұрын
Thanks Gray for another great interview. It’s great insight in how these horrendous things occur .Monsters walk among us 💔.
@MizDBMe7 ай бұрын
Holy smokes… new subscriber here. Thanks for your work on this!! Much love and light!
@tracymccomber2347 ай бұрын
As always, great interview! Love your channel!
@alicake97537 ай бұрын
This was a very interesting interview. Thank you Gray!
@joshuaogrady38907 ай бұрын
I have been his friend for like 20 years.. did not see this coming..
@GrayHughesInvestigates7 ай бұрын
can you send me an email to grayhuze2@gmail.com
@MHP_LLc7 ай бұрын
You should be in contact with LE. He could've victimized your kids for profit on websites without your knowledge. Either way they'll want background. You can help this investigation! He had money bc he was selling CSA material. I'll bet any amount of money.
@IvanVikktor7157 ай бұрын
It’s interesting he didn’t work other than Disney. I wonder he was worried If he was at a job with other adults his awkwardness would raise flags around adults. If you just hide out in a video game ppl just think ur a nerd like the friend said. Or he’s just lazy. lol. Idk.
@user-vx2yj8ts4c7 ай бұрын
I think he worked renting property for his dad's real estate company. I also saw a rental sign at a house police were searching around. I wonder if that's how he knew the area.
@MrPaultopp7 ай бұрын
If if if ….maybe, might be , could have , all speculation
@jeannettejohnson99267 ай бұрын
Thanks again, Gray, for being on top of it.
@angelapuckett49327 ай бұрын
I was a single mom. I never left my son with anyone except my family that was trustworthy. There were weirdo's who wanted to voluntarily baby sit. I wasn't stupid. I had eyes open at all times. I had this sixth sense too. If I caught anyone bullying my son, momma bear came out. They became our best friends. Putting out that vibe and reputation of being one for boundaries goes a long way.
@Pam295997 ай бұрын
Thank you for all your hard work!!
@mischiefmanaged98737 ай бұрын
Great information! Glad he called detective. They will definitely be taking a statement when building this horrific case. Fingers crossed for DP!
@annem78067 ай бұрын
Wonder if Jennifer's house was searched for cameras, like he installed to watch his roommates GF.
@shineonyoucrazydanielle7 ай бұрын
I was wondering the same. He might have a camera there as well.
@susanmoore72297 ай бұрын
Ty for Franks interview. He seems like a great guy. So glad to hear he contacted police. He might end up on the witness stand in 5 yrs. Good interview Gray. I need to parse it out a bit
@plato76607 ай бұрын
Dangit. Didn’t get the notification. But I’m listening now & halfway thru. Excellent interview!
@theresathinks95617 ай бұрын
Thank you for the interview
@laynedoon74377 ай бұрын
great interview gray,
@susangander96687 ай бұрын
Gray, thank you for that great interview! Every time I started wondering something, you would ask the exact question I wanted to know. Pinning down that timeline was essential and really helped. Anyway, I have subscribed now and turned on my notifications. I like the way you think. Going back now to check out your other content. Glad I found you👍😊
@Majormama7 ай бұрын
Ty Gray, that was an interesting interview with Stephans friend . What I would like to know is if any previous relationships prior to Jen had children ? Did he have nieces? I thought I heard something said about Madeline having a new bf or some guy from school that she had mentioned to her mom , aunt or friend that she was interested in . I can't recall who it was that Madeline had mentioned this to and who had talked about this. I find it hard to believe that Madeline was the first and only time he had done this to.
@seeitforme77287 ай бұрын
That was a really informative interview. Seems like Stephane was socially awkward, and immature. He was probably paranoid taking the Adderall which can happen. It certainly doesn’t justify any of his actions. He’s disgusting. I thought it was interesting that he was in his dad‘s car.
@WindTurbineSyndrome7 ай бұрын
Very interesting hearing about the history from a friend. How Stephan dated and lived with Jen then breaking up and living back with his parents. Many lives ruined. Rip Maddie.
@DutchessDrizela7 ай бұрын
She claimed her daughter has add guess used daughter RX sorry adderall has nothing to do w this he lasso does weed people stop needing make drugs n sex w kids re the same addition he could been a crack head meth addict guess what they not all ducking kids it he jjsd drug problem he want more pills not baby sex
@hollydaugherty26207 ай бұрын
Well, it's not like a mature and intelligent human would be more likely to do these acts.
@ScabibbleWilly7 ай бұрын
Great video Gray. ❤
@hemi16287 ай бұрын
Very interesting. Very weird.
@juliew18247 ай бұрын
Great sleuthing Gray. I think these friends are genuinely shocked and trying to make sense of it. Trouble in the geek world of tamagotchi, star wars figurines and all that jazz, indeed. I'm guessing his parents were funding him during the period he didn't appear to be working but still had money
@marelize97267 ай бұрын
22:51 In one of her interviews, the mother referred to Stephan as her “partner”.
@TrueCrimeSluethin7 ай бұрын
Thank you Gray for this interview. It clears up some things. According to the PCA (I'm paraphrasing) Mom called him to the house to take Maddie to school. So he didn't live there. What I am about to say, please understand it's a theory, of many. What if something happened between Mom and Maddie that morning and Mom killed her? She then freaks out, calls Stephan to "help her" and he disposes of Maddie's body. Yes he is a bastard for what he did to Maddie, committing SA, recording, etc. But what if he is covering for the Mom re her death? Maybe Maddie told her what has been going on OR she was pregnant OR she was going to tell, and the Mom flipped out? Just some thoughts in this weird case.
@lizacampbell21837 ай бұрын
Interesting theory 🤔 such an awful case. 💔
@Chaparra11017 ай бұрын
Amazing work on getting his friends side of view.... just hearing about these living arrangements & how it seemed this creep was only around for this innocent child so disgusting.... it's so heartbreaking to know what this disgusting Predatorput this child through .... And to hear how MS & SS was texting & supposedly they had a deep connection is baffling how this mother JS would let her child have such relationship with a grow man it don't matter who it is, & i wonder how did JS not know shit about what was going on how is it possible to not know your child just horrible.... Thanks for putting this great phone conversation out.
@grandmasadvice30127 ай бұрын
I don’t want to accuse the mother of murder She should be charged with failing to protect & neglecting her daughter’s safety. But if she is guilty of knowledge about her daughter’s murderer knowing what he was I would throw the book @ her & show her no mercy. She should be sent straight to prison.
@susyque84247 ай бұрын
Not sure if some brought this up but Madeline told her mom about SA and she didn’t believe her
@MrPaultopp7 ай бұрын
Speculation
@susyque84247 ай бұрын
@@MrPaultopp if you are referring to my comment , it wasn’t speculation. I seen the clip of person talking to Maddie about being SA by that monster 👹
@Helloskyyt3217 ай бұрын
@@susyque8424where is that clip? I can’t find it, if this is true she deserves to be punished to the maximum
@trickortrump32927 ай бұрын
@@susyque8424 Why are you being so vague about what you’re talking about?
@sundynightlive7 ай бұрын
This Frank guy sounds like JLR Investigates
@user-vx2yj8ts4c7 ай бұрын
Lol... I thought the same.
@sundynightlive7 ай бұрын
@@user-vx2yj8ts4c wasn’t he caught pretending to be family of a mass shooter?
@Anna-g3s7 ай бұрын
A little
@sundynightlive7 ай бұрын
@@Anna-g3s I wasn’t implying that it WAS him, only that the voices were similar. When I watch creators, I’m often listening while I do other tasks, and I get familiar with voices.
@WickedWest5127 ай бұрын
I said the same thing lol
@shannonsullivan48587 ай бұрын
Another excellent interview! You always go the extra mile Gray!
@tinamarlow5067 ай бұрын
Wow… great information! Thanks for sharing this!!
@suzmik7 ай бұрын
Great interview, Gray! You did an excellent job reigning him in on timeline and living details.
@lisamurphy44387 ай бұрын
Great job getting these @grayhughesinvestigates! Appreciate you!
@crystalakabeavergamingsubs95497 ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks!!
@monica2597 ай бұрын
So if he was moved out and allegedly Madeline's mom was working nights how did he get a hold of Madeline that night. Did he call her (Madeline) and she let him in?
@kimmie27117 ай бұрын
Or had a key?
@oOIIIMIIIOo7 ай бұрын
Maybe she asked him to babysit as a friend/ex-'stepdad'.
@janetruiz12127 ай бұрын
He picked up Madeline in the morning to take her to school I read the report . Mom called him according to her story told to the police
@Ardnaxela10027 ай бұрын
@@kimmie2711 door had one of those pads on it to type in a pin to unlock it. Another youtuber videod the door after LE left. They left the door a jar.
@monica2597 ай бұрын
@@janetruiz1212 I thought LE said that she was already gone between 7 to 8am not exactly sure of the time but that way too early to be picked up from school. I hope more info comes out soon to clarity all this.
@ajordan19767 ай бұрын
Where is her father?
@WBee-jg8eg7 ай бұрын
Same thought. I would like to hear from Maddie's father
@unsocialbutterfly57607 ай бұрын
Yes there has been no mention of her father at all, wonder why?
@julissongs7 ай бұрын
He lives in Texas but he came to Florida over the weekend
@unsocialbutterfly57607 ай бұрын
@@julissongs oh interesting, I was hearing rumours he was in jail…I’m glad to hear this is not true.
@Michelle-bo1md7 ай бұрын
Condolences to MADDIE'S family.
@My-22-Cents7 ай бұрын
I don’t know if people have read the arrest affidavit/warrant. He hasn’t been charged with Maddie’s murder, yet. He is charged with S Battery and Possession of Material S Performance by Child. It puts the pics/videos recovered from his phone between the time period 03/20/2022 to 12/03/2023 and it stated that they were able to match bedding etc to say where they were filmed. That would mean, going off what this guy is saying, he would have to be going back to the house regularly when he and the mum were split up? I hope all these people ringing in are legit, and if so, contact the authorities.
@My-22-Cents7 ай бұрын
Just got to the end where he said he called authorities and left a message. So happy to hear that.
@robinnast88157 ай бұрын
Great interview and good new info. You never know someone who lives the life of a chameleon
@deborahlamartiniere63497 ай бұрын
Good interview Gray
@Wistful777 ай бұрын
Wow. That was good. Now I have to go back to the other one that I missed. Thank you.
@shannoncampbell9276Ай бұрын
To me it paints a very clear picture of how good he was at hiding who he actually was and what he was doing. This guy knew him for years and never suspected he was up to no good either. Also think it’s interesting he lives in Port Charlotte and when the cops asked Jenn if she knew anyone that lived there, she only knew her friend. He had been going to this guy’s house for three years but never with her. Where else was he going she didn’t know about? I am also very curious where his money is coming from. Was he selling his parents stuff from the storage unit his dad didn’t think he had access to or was he selling his pics?
@oOIIIMIIIOo7 ай бұрын
The material on this guys phone reaches back to march of 2022, so she would have been 11.
@Ardnaxela10027 ай бұрын
And that's just what was on that phone...
@dudemorris77697 ай бұрын
Great interview Gray!
@joycewright53867 ай бұрын
Imagine what grown men could accomplish if their lives were consumed with games?
@MsAdventure5317 ай бұрын
Like men used to do…
@nikkkiblack-cox14067 ай бұрын
@@MsAdventure531 I remember grown men trying to get past levels on Atari…lol
@ChereeDawn7 ай бұрын
Is that Maddie in the reflection of his glasses? Creepy!!
@BarbaraCameron-wp9mj7 ай бұрын
I'm glad you brought that up for everyone to take a look.... It certainly looks like her. Her silhouette. If it was her, he was taking a selfie , had to have seen her in the background. Perhaps deliberate. Sick mf'r.
@whatadollslife7 ай бұрын
looks like a younger person ...yes creepy
@robynkahle72407 ай бұрын
Wow, the amount of time since he moved out might suggest she really was pregnant too.
@blazee38957 ай бұрын
I believe she was.
@user-vx2yj8ts4c7 ай бұрын
I wish we knew who bought her that party dress. The side gathering could be used to hide a belly. It's not a fashion trend right now.
@amandabusch7 ай бұрын
@@user-vx2yj8ts4cher chest looked quite engorged for a 13yo.
@RepentfollowJesus7 ай бұрын
@amandabusch I was big busted at 13. But I noticed in one pic she had gained quite a bit of weight. Pregnancy?
@hollydaugherty26207 ай бұрын
@@amandabuschWtf
@rlnstn93007 ай бұрын
The Digimon and the X he gave Madeline were grooming tools.
@michelleherbert32877 ай бұрын
Gray what an interesting interview lots of twists and turns. This guy is such a creep. RIP Madeline 🌹 🙏
@Boomerang08757 ай бұрын
The mom knew 💯.
@Woodstock2317 ай бұрын
Great interview Gray , I was happy to hear you not automatically accusing the mom like so many other creators are ( we still have good people doing true crime ) you are a stand up guy ❤️ .. I also feel there is some type of deficit there, with the mom and she was easy to manipulate by him..Thanks for all you do for charity also Gray .
@Scorpiobw7 ай бұрын
This guy’s actions just further prove my point of we never truly know anyone but ourselves. And that is scary. These monsters are among us.
@PsychobabbleRapp7 ай бұрын
I am still confused after watching the moms full interview with local media, she said WE a lot, and she said they had video of her at the church where he claimed he dropped her off, and they watched her cross the street and hang out there for a while ??? .. yet police say she was not alive when he left the apartment, and he had thrown her laptop and backpack in the dumpster at the apartment??
@unsocialbutterfly57607 ай бұрын
Yeah there is definitely something off with the mom. The interview showed body language that she was lying, she looked up often when answering questions and sucked her lips in her mouth a lot, tell tale signs. Shes guilty of something but to what degree? Shes guilty of not possessing a gut instinct and not having a good enough relationship with her daughter if she didn’t tell her about the abuse. What I want to know is was she told and didn’t believe it and was she protecting this monster? She also didn’t appear distraught enough, not like most mothers are when their child goes missing. I hate accusing the mom, but she is setting off alarm bells in my head. Something is off.
@unsocialbutterfly57607 ай бұрын
@@missmg oh absolutely, which is why I don’t like judging parents of missing children, grief hits people differently. But in saying that, it was more her body language that concerned me, along with the lack of emotion. Even the “we” didn’t concern me too much, although learning he’s actually her ex makes it seem weird for her to say “we”. Like I said, something’s off, just not sure what yet. It might just be guilt that she processes any gut instincts 🤷♀️ I think the police told her they saw Madeline in the video at that time, to see how they would react…knowing she was passed away before that time, I think that was a deliberate move by police.
@anitarobinson23977 ай бұрын
Masterpiece interview
@bonniehitchcock7 ай бұрын
I'm sure they would know if she was pregnant by autopsy.
@OpalineAndTheBean7 ай бұрын
This guy sounds just like JLR! Lol! 😅😂
@sherry88947 ай бұрын
He does! Lol
@BrittanysAGinger7 ай бұрын
I live in North Port this is terrifying
@ROSEB7 ай бұрын
THANK YOU GRAY
@INSP4UNme7 ай бұрын
I really do not know what to think of the Mom. Facts lead to his guilt, but the facts for her are wavering, but the one fact that stands out the most: she stated at one point, the last time she saw Maddie was at 8:00 Monday morning when she was getting dressed for school. At or around 7:30 that morning he was seen placing items that belong to Maddie in a dumpster. That does not add up.
@shineonyoucrazydanielle7 ай бұрын
Yeah, that is a major problem along with everything else she said in her interviews.