(NEW) Interview with Aegean Macedonian-Decata Begalci

What does an Aegean Macedonian have to say about her identity, and what she experienced at the hands of the Greek government?
In today's episode of #MariosHistoryTalks, we sit down and interview Olga, an Aegean Macedonian whose experiences as part of the Decata Begalci took her from her native Macedonia to camps in Poland, to Canada and finally America.
We also ask her perspective on lot of the controversial issues facing Macedonia and Greece today!
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[@marioshistorytalks]

Timestamps: Background/ Start of the Greek civil war 1:03 Situation in Polish Camps: 16:36 Efforts to re-unify family: 19:15 Situation that led to coming to America: 21:08 Coming to America 34:24 Life in America: 39:22 Macedonians and Greeks in America: 40:33 Returning to village: 42:07 Language in the village: 43:18 What language was spoken in past? 43:45 Status of Macedonians in Greece: 44:52 Problems returning to Greece? 46:24 Was this ethnic cleansing? 47:47 Question in Macedonian: 48:24 Question in Greek: 49:44

[@cosser789]

😂😂😂 makedonian bulgarians hahaha

[@history_repeats8201]

I think "Baba" has very selective memory. When she said she forgot who was fighting who I almost fell from my chair. I will not write the whole history of the Balkans here but what she calls the "Partisans" were the Soviet backed communists. The slavic minority in North Greece first sited with the Bulgarian army which occupied northern Greece with the Germans and then when the Germans were pushed out they decided to side with the Soviet-backed communists against non communists (she calls them fascist) . If they hadn't sided with the occupying Bulgarian army and communists and conspire against Greece nothing would happen to them. Greece was in possession of that village since 1913. So stop playing the injured and tell the whole story.

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

MAKEDONIJA EXIST 25 CENTURIES. Greece -- 190 years.

[@history_repeats8201]

@@tatjanavelkova5814 My suggestion is to go to Vergina museums where you can see all the Macedonian monuments. They will tell you who they were. I went there it is an amazing experience. You can see the actual grave stones of the people and what they wrote on it, Make sure you have a guide because it is all in Greek.

[@history_repeats8201]

@@tatjanavelkova5814 I suggest you go to the Vergina museum and visit the tombs and the Necropolis of Vergina. There the people of ancient Macedonia have written on their grave stones who they were their dreams and aspirations. If you go, please take a local guide because their stories are written in Greek.

[@SpartanHoplite-p1f]

Today's North Macedonia has nothing to do with ancient Macedonia.

[@mittedoupeff1342]

Likewise fir Gayreece !!!

[@SpartanHoplite-p1f]

@@mittedoupeff1342 exactly they are Hellenic. Thank you for understanding and agreeing with the truth.

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

@@SpartanHoplite-p1f IN MAKEDONIJA MACEDONIANS ! ! helleni in...Kopaonik.

[@SpartanHoplite-p1f]

@@tatjanavelkova5814 exactly Macedonia is Hellenic. Thank you for understanding.

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

@@SpartanHoplite-p1f MAKEDONIJA IS MAKEDONIJA ! ! you in... Kopaonik.

[@Martin-gd7vy]

A truly interesting interview, she paints a great picture of how things used to be back then. Also, I have a suspicion that back then nobody really cared about ideology. Most people were only interested in their nation's survival, the peasants didn't wake up thinking "Today I will die for the communist utopia", they only cared about their families and their people, and only took a side when they were forced to.

[@HeroManNick132]

Ах, този македонизъм ще ви заличи, както ония егейците...

[@history_repeats8201]

Your statement is not true. If your hypothesis is correct then an equal number of slavs should have sited with the Greeks fighting against the communists. How do you explain that most "slavs" sited with the occupying Bulgarian army and after that with the communists? The first wider resistance movements occurred in northern Greece, where the Bulgarians annexed Greek territories. The first mass uprising occurred around the town of Drama in eastern Macedonia, in the Bulgarian occupation zone. The Bulgarian authorities had initiated large-scale Bulgarization policies, causing the Greek population's reaction. During the night of 28-29 September 1941 the people of Drama and its outskirts rose up. This badly-organized revolt was suppressed by the Bulgarian Army, which retaliated executing 300-500 people in Drama alone.[11] An estimated fifteen thousand Greeks were killed by the Bulgarian occupational army during the next few weeks and in the countryside entire villages were machine gunned and looted.[citation needed] The town of Doxato and the village of Choristi are officially considered today Martyr Cities. At the same time, large demonstrations were organized in Greek Macedonian cities by the Defenders of Northern Greece (YVE), a right-wing organization, in protest against the Bulgarian annexation of Greek territories.

[@voskreglavincevska7080]

​@@history_repeats8201 It is to naive to say that people were guilty about comunistic movements . Communistic manifest was written by Germans and never it is utopia . You must learn it too , because communism is coming after high economical prosperity of Nations . We know very well what is communism but it is to early to be implemented . You cannot make communism in poverty ! As you can see socialism is over , but every country have socialistic plan on protecting working class all over the World . And please stop with your rethorics about Macedonian being Bulgar ! Keep your direction that today there is country Macedonia independent in the North not East Republic of Bulgaria with the capital Skopje !

[@Martin-gd7vy]

@@history_repeats8201 Your own statement proves my point. The occupying Bulgarian army was fascist, and the Greek liberation army was communist. Two different ideologies, the same people fighting for them.

[@history_repeats8201]

@@Martin-gd7vy Not true. Please spend a little time to read history. The Greek liberation movement had two armies. One of the armies was the communists and the other was the national army. After the removal of the Germans these two couldnt agree how to divide power and with the instigation of the British who wanted the communists gone started the Greek civil war.

[@natashahristovska6691]

Thank you so much for sharing your life story. This is a testament to the tragic exile of the Macedonians from Greece. It is a part of our history that must be shared and never forgotten. Да живее Македонија! 🇲🇰

[@HeroManNick132]

Много си западнала не е за вярване!

[@steliosbarmpoudis5897]

Monkeydonija za monkeydonije... Μακεδονία γη Ελληνική 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

M A K E D O N I J A BELONG TO MACEDONIANS ! ! ! ! !

[@petrospapadopoulos3750]

​@@tatjanavelkova5814η Μακεδονία ανήκει σε αυτούς που μπορούν να διαβάσουν το όνομα Αλέξανδρος στα αρχαία Μακεδονικά νομίσματα και επιγραφές. Και αυτοί είναι οι Έλληνες. Έλληνες Μακεδόνες και όχι μαϊμού Μακεδόνες από τα Σκόπια. Αυτοί είναι Σλάβοι, και κάποτε πρέπει να το δεχθούν

[@irinigago]

καί αυτή ήταν είναι καί θά παραμένουν Έλληνες. Σλάβοι είστε, όχι Έλληνες. Καί δεν έχουμε καμία κοινοί ιστορία. Πάτε αλλού νά βρείτε. ​@@tatjanavelkova5814

[@vesnajanakievski5594]

Good job, Mario and bravo za baba Olga ❤🇲🇰🇲🇰🇲🇰 only Macedonia🇲🇰🇲🇰🇲🇰❤️

[@HeroManNick132]

Леле и ти ли си платена като Марио и тази баба във видеото?

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

@@HeroManNick132............. laj . u banderi.

[@billba]

Greek here. I might have a different view on some things but i still love your people. Love from Melbourne Australia.

[@dkgamers1385]

Οι δικοί μας εδω πίσω δεν του αγαπουνε τόσο......

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

@@dkgamers1385 tooo.... MACEDONIANS speak Macedonian language ! ! !

[@dkgamers1385]

@tatjanavelkova5814 yes . My grandmother can speak it. She is from Chalastra greece.

[@salar1586]

​@@dkgamers1385 nice brother you should too dont be stupid

[@dkgamers1385]

@salar1586 I would want to but I don't know it....but I will learn in one day.

[@lidijabasheska8546]

Thank you for saving these stories, we should all remember.

[@HeroManNick132]

Лидийче, кого заблуждаваш с македонизма си?

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

LIDIJA BAS'ESKA POZDRAV ! ! ! Tatjana od MAKEDONIJA

[@blazhespireski2259]

Keep up the great work Mario! 🇲🇰👌

[@HeroManNick132]

Блаже е най-гейското име някога!

[@SnaRi-dc1nl]

Марио, се гледа дека од душа го правиш сево ова, браво. Не запирај никогаш, ги цениме твоите видеа.

[@mellake7052]

Like I said in the first video, your story, Baba Olga, is the story of tens of thousands of Macedonians. There are surely none from the Aegean part of Macedonia who have not been touched by this tragedy and for many, the repercussions are still felt today, not only by the deca begalci, but also their children and grandchildren. Another tragic chapter in the history of the Macedonians. Thank you so much for sharing your story and to Mario for his initiative.

[@HeroManNick132]

Чудно ми е на овай тука и на овая баба колко долари са им платили за туй изказване?

[@dblaze4745]

​@@HeroManNick132 Bratko ti si usijana glava ne se kupuva se so pari.

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

vo MAKEDONIJA LUGJE govorat Makedonski jazik .

[@stevkasamardziska8928]

These life stories should never be forgotten!

[@MacedoniaTimelessYT]

Can’t stop me from commenting on this video.

[@HeroManNick132]

Колко акаунти притежаваш?

[@salar1586]

​@@HeroManNick132Нели гледаш дека никој не те регистрира

[@Kristian.Stankov]

As a Pirin Macedonian, my grandfather who comes from Aegean Macedonia and he was part of the deca begalci. He came here to Pirin Macedonia when Bulgaria still controlled it. Other than that, I have to say that the making of these videos have become much greater since I last saw your video! Good job, Mario! And god bless baba Olga!

[@macedonia3321]

To tell the truth to our people. The culture of the ancient Macedonians was about Like the culture of ancient Sparta, ancient Corinth, ancient Athens, ancient Thessaly Etc. The ancient Macedonians were not Slavs. The Slavs conquered and destroyed the ancient genuine Macedonian culture. This is the truth.

[@HeroManNick132]

Пирински македонец? Я стига пропаганди!

[@bprzin247]

When I was in Pirin Macedonia , nobody that I 've met was declearing as a Macedonian . Just as Bulgarians , what a shame !

[@HeroManNick132]

@@bprzin247 Луди хора, колкото си щеш.

[@MrVibriocholerae]

​@@macedonia3321 if you want to be a true macedonian, start learning greek and stop acting bulgarian. There is no macedonia outside of greece. Your great ancestors that you love so much were greeks and spoke greek so there is no way around it.

[@aleksandarbungurdjiev8008]

God bless you Baba Olga. Сполај ти Баба Олга шо ја сподели вашата животна приказна за судбината на Македонците. Thank you Mario!

[@HeroManNick132]

Вие нямате съдбина, освен да правите провокации на съседите си!

[@eleutheriosvenizelos2191]

Yes bulgarian ✋🏻⚡️⚡️

[@Persianslayer]

​@eleutheriosvenizelos2191 She litteraly says she's macedonian u fascist we fucked u in 1944

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

@@eleutheriosvenizelos2191 yes. dibek * * ,

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

THIS IS VIDEO FOR MAKEDONIJA ! ! ! ! !

[@Ntopias]

Great job Mario and thank you baba Olga. I'm sure it's a similar story for many of our grandparents, a story that has to be told. I can't fully relate since my grandparents weren't communists and thus were never sent away and stayed in Greece until the late 50s and early 60s, but it was great learning some history straight from the source.

[@HeroManNick132]

Вие само в миналото ли ще живеете като този платен тука от американското посолство, насаждащи омраза безобразни неблагодарници, а?

[@stefanzajkoski1096]

Another amazing video keep doing the good work for Macedonia 🇲🇰❤️

[@marioshistorytalks]

Thank you Stefan!

[@demetriusraios4393]

APRIL 20 1941 The Bulgarian Army Enters Skopje ..and were greeted Celebrated bay the Vardaskans With Banners as Heros and liberators..Joining with The Nazi AXIS.... Greece was the Only Country in the Balkans to Say OXI ..(NO) ...and Chose to Defend and Fight and Delayed the AXIS and Greece changed History..as they Did Before with the Persians Later when The AXIS Invaded Greece With the Bulgarians . Can you please Refresh our Mamories..MARIO What Atrocities The Bulgarians Committed on Unarmed Citizens .in Northen Greece..photographing themselves with severed Greek Heads . .with unarmed innocent villages..Greece oppressed and Kicked out Who?,, ??? The Bulgarians???

[@RU-Aussie]

Interesting view from a Turk

[@evilempire3936]

The Bulgarians kick out the Pontic Greeks who came from turkey after 1920 , in the territories which Greece stole after Balkans wars 😉

[@MAKGIRL333]

Pozdrav do Mario & Olga! Thank you for sharing your life story! What a struggle, and there are so many more untold.😢

[@HeroManNick132]

Я стига сте се правили на мъченици! Само крокодилски сълзи роните!

[@marjangacesa5351]

Браво Марио, ретки се деца како тебе кои живеат странство а преубаво го зборуваат Македонскиот јазик. Поздрав до татко ти од Мане, воедно ти имаш поздрав од вујко ти Роберто како и Стаматис од Солун со кого се запознав пред некој месец кога беше на посета на мојата твојата и неговата МАКЕДОНИЈА. Поздрав од Битола Македонија на Македонците❤,

[@kristinacvetkova4926]

I grew up with my grandgrand mother, grandmother ans grandfather. My grandmother is still alive, 89 this year from Buf. I have been told all the things that were happening. My grandgrandmother was in black all her life for her son 18 years old that died, without a husband that went working in France and never came back. In the neighborhood all the people have their stories about the suffering. Our firat neighbour end up in hospital because she couldn't handle the trauma from the rapes od the Greeks and there she died. My grandfather would always cry when he was telling us what has happened. About the cutting tounges, rapes, beating, burning, killing. There are such sad stories and it hurts when you see people not aknowledging what has happened.

[@HeroManNick132]

Това е резултатът на македонизмът! Ще дойде и ще ви помете като нищо!

[@history_repeats8201]

The first wider resistance movements occurred in northern Greece, where the Bulgarians annexed Greek territories. The first mass uprising occurred around the town of Drama in eastern Macedonia, in the Bulgarian occupation zone. The Bulgarian authorities had initiated large-scale Bulgarization policies, causing the Greek population's reaction. During the night of 28-29 September 1941 the people of Drama and its outskirts rose up. This badly-organized revolt was suppressed by the Bulgarian Army, which retaliated executing 300-500 people in Drama alone.[11] An estimated fifteen thousand Greeks were killed by the Bulgarian occupational army during the next few weeks and in the countryside entire villages were machine gunned and looted.[citation needed] The town of Doxato and the village of Choristi are officially considered today Martyr Cities. At the same time, large demonstrations were organized in Greek Macedonian cities by the Defenders of Northern Greece (YVE), a right-wing organization, in protest against the Bulgarian annexation of Greek territories.

[@robertn-77]

Spolaj ti Baba ❤

[@HeroManNick132]

Пиши на кирилица!

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

@@HeroManNick132 na latinica : idi... y 1.000 tikvi.

[@gocentral8273]

❤❤❤❤

[@stephenkocoski8205]

Hey Mario, Really appreciate this interview. In what city/country did this interview take place? Fala i golem pozdrav ❤️ ☦️

[@marioshistorytalks]

Hey Stephen! Appreciate the nice words. It's in America, but I prefer to keep her city private :)

[@MakedonskaAkropolaMKD]

Срдечен поздрав до баба Олга од Македонија!!

[@macedonia3321]

To tell the truth to our people. The culture of the ancient Macedonians was about Like the culture of ancient Sparta, ancient Corinth, ancient Athens, ancient Thessaly Etc. The ancient Macedonians were not Slavs. The Slavs conquered and destroyed the ancient genuine Macedonian culture. This is the truth.

[@HeroManNick132]

Да, Олга е македонско име, както и Игор, което не са руски имена. 😂

[@steliosbarmpoudis5897]

​@@macedonia3321say it open my friend ancient Macedonians were Hellenes 🇬🇷.. Macedonia was a Hellenic city-state like Athens,Sparta ,Thiva etc...they had differences each other of course but they believed at the same culture and the same gods...were there slavs then???i dont think soo...do you know what Star of Vergina symbolises and you show it at your profile????

[@ЈанеСандански-л1и]

​@@steliosbarmpoudis5897hahaha city-state? 😂 It was Macedonian empire, a Monarchy, totally different of the villages called city-states. Do you think that you will pass with such lie?😂 Not anymore Pontic Turk

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

@@steliosbarmpoudis5897......... before 25 centuries FILIP MACEDONIAN KINGDOM ! ! !

[@mellake7052]

Yaaaaaay, Mario! You've hit the 4,000 mark! ❤❤😍❤❤Growing bigger and better. Thanks for all you do.🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆

[@marioshistorytalks]

Thank YOU so much Mel, for all your support and words of encouragement through the years.

[@mellake7052]

@@marioshistorytalks 😍❤😍

[@my8osprive]

@@mellake7052 With all that sucking up, Mario might put in a good word to UMD for a pay raise. 🤣 P.S. I just noticed you posted even more stuff. You must be like the character Glenn Close portrayed in fatal attraction and her obsession. lol.... Ofc, I won't read that stuff either. You just spent hours writing propaganda and who knows what other nonsense. 🤣🤣

[@mellake7052]

@@my8osprive Poor dimi, calling the findings of Princeton professors "propaganda" and "nonsense." The laughs just keep rolling in with mythos. PS Most of my refutations of your nonsense would not post - that's why I started the other threads. Don't cry.😢😁😂

[@mellake7052]

And what a ridiculous thread to post this reply of yours, where it has nothing to do with your Nicholas Gage absurdities (called out by Princeton) and other nonsense.

[@andrejpetrevski]

Срдечен поздрав за баба Олга, и дедо ми потекнува од село Буковик кое е на 3км од Оровник, секоја чест на овие луѓе за маките што ги проживеале за оваа света Македонија.

[@HeroManNick132]

Света Македония? Ахаха, смешник!

[@DaniilBalkans-jh2rw]

​@@HeroManNick132we know you are Greek 🤡, don't pretend to be a Macedonian?.You give yourself away with your incorrect cyrillic translator😂?.

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

Apostol Pavle vo MAKEDONIJA vovel HRISTIJANSTVO . MAKEDONSKI NAROD BLAGOSLOVEN od GOSPOD. 20 VEKA.

[@Yalbou]

No more videos?

[@ZoraVeljanovski]

Hello Mario if I ever have a son I wanted to be just like you thanks for all you do.

[@stefanjovanovski6035]

My mothers family was from agean macedonia from the viliage Rula ad they were one of the oldest family in that viliage their surename is Ruleski because they were the first family there hundrets of years ago when the greeks started exporting from their home my great grandfather petre was killed by the greeks and my great grandmother trpana with 5kids where exported to prilep and on the way to prilep greek soldiers stole their donkey with all their stuff and left mother trpana with 5 kids and nothing with them

[@HeroManNick132]

Голям шовинист си!

[@bluefanclub430]

Interesting video to say the least

[@antoniodelrey164]

My father was from the same area but born much before this lady during the last days of Ottoman rule. His great grandfather was a Bulgarian priest and his grandfather’s sister was married to Tchakaroff’s brother. Anyone from that are knows who he was. Greeks cut off his head and paraded it throughout the area. My family moved to Bulgaria a year or two after Greek occupation. Many of our people in later years were just shipped off by the Greeks to other countries including Russia. Families separated and sent to varias countries. Some who stayed were jailed if they spoke the old Macedonian-Bulgarian dialect as it was known in those days before Tito. The Aegeska dialect was much different than that in Pirin and each village had a slightly different one. Lots of tragedies but what gets me is that the Greeks cry the most but they were the Turks favorites so to say and would backstab the committees and turn them in to the Turks while acting as if they were working with our forefathers. Many who stayed became Hellenized and believed the brainwashing and became Greeks. I understand that now some families who remained in Macedonia and Thrace still speak an old dialect but only between themselves. But the past is the past and it’s over. Too bad that history is being rewritten by those who were born or raised in Serbia/ Yugoslavia and under communism. By the way, if anyone is from Niagara Falls/Buffalo NY, Tchakalaroff had a sister who lived there but I don’t think she had children but I could be wrong. Let me know if anyone else is from Smurdesh, Kostur. The best pita is from Aegeska…

[@michaelkiprovski3001]

I’m a Macedonian living in Australia. My dedo came here in the 50s. He’s 90 years old now. He and all my family around his age tell me the same thing. The Greeks ethnically cleansed the Macedonians. They banned their language, they burned their homes, they forcefully re-migrated them. They have real stories of horrible persecution. Yet Greeks deny this testimony and say this is all made up. It’s this type of denial of our history, of our story, of our identity … it’s this smugness and self absorption which causes Macedonians to harbour this hatred toward them.

[@ivansince91]

Марио, дали знаете за декларациите и дали се потпишувате? Поздрав!

[@HeroManNick132]

За кое да се подпишеш? За българско гражданство ли?

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

IN MAKEDONIJA 25 CENTURIES MACEDONIANS ! ! ! ! !

[@salar1586]

​@@HeroManNick132 Германски пасапорт ќе добијам а татарскио ќе лета у шоља

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

@@salar1586 IN MAKEDONIJA MACEDONIANS ! ! !

[@vane4919]

Голем поздрав до! Марио за серијата?!! Деца бегалци од Македонија и до сестра?! Олга сведок на вистината 😂❤🎉 за една слободна Македонија географски поздрав

[@kostastsa]

what the hell have they put in your head about Macedonia... the whole world and the world knows and you teach in school that Macedonia is one and it is GREEK... That's how it's always been and that's how it's going to stay... so stupid and stupid in a lie people I have never seen before.

[@cistamakedonija8210]

Македонија и Македонците посотејеле во Егејска и ќе постојат. Македонија вечна!

[@HeroManNick132]

Во газот ти!

[@Bubble23428]

Macedonia is forever Greek and Alexander was never Slavic

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

MAKEDONIJA EXIST 25 CENTURIES from FILIP KING ON MAKEDONIJA. Oto german make Greece before 190 years.

[@my8osprive]

I love listening to old people's stories, but I also try to spot inconsistencies or bias. I am writing this while listening to the video: 1. When she was born in 1941, her village had been called Karyes for over 20 years (since 1920), not Orovnik as she says. 2. She describes events (e.g. Metaxas) before she was born. 3. I gather she didn't migrate to the US at the age of 7 judging by her accent (which isn't truly American), but probably spent a few years in Poland also and migrated in her late teens. Wow... I was right (I am not erasing the previous sentence, I am writing as I am listening to the video). 17 years old as I just heard in the video. 4. When collaborating with the communists and Yugo (that had the intention to grab lands from northern Greece during the Nazi occupation and during the Greek civil war), it is logical to become unwanted in Greece. Your "united Macedonia" irredentist maps don't help this problem become alleviated over the years. 5. "Ethnic cleansing", kind of like what happened to the Greeks living in former FYROM? Monastir (now Bitola) had thousands of Greeks. This term doesn't cut one way, but both ways. In fact, statistics show very few Greeks nowadays in North Macedonia compared to ethnic Macedonians in Greece. One wonders which "ethnic cleansing" was more effective.... As a note to the creator of the video, there were also thousands of Greek children gathered by Greek communists (i.e. paidomazoma) and moved to Yugoslavia to be assimilated as 'Macedonians'. Read the book 'Eleni' by Nicolas Gage. P.S. it would have been nice to add subtitles for the part spoken in the modern Macedonian language. +++EDIT: video showing ethnic cleansing of Greeks in former FYROM: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3bcqKJje9eYr80

[@elenas2299]

I've noticed you've taken some things out of context, whether intentionally or not, so I just want to address some of your points. 1. Whilst her village was officially renamed as Karyes by the Greek government in 1926, it doesn't remove the fact that the local inhabitants continued to call it Orovnik. 2. She describes events before she was born, as they were passed down by her family, who experienced those events. 4. It's hypocritical for Greece to deny entry to Macedonians who fought on the communist side, but allow Greeks who fought on the communist side to return. It is very racist and discriminatory. 5. I personally am from Bitola, and Bitola didn't have thousands of Greeks. Bitola had Macedonians and Aromanians who were counted and referred to as "Greeks" by the Ottoman millet system, just because they went to the churches that belonged to the Patriarchate of Constantinople, instead of the Bulgarian Exarchate. There was a small Greek minority, but they left during the Balkan Wars, voluntarily. There is no evidence for ethnic cleansing of Greeks in what is today the Republic of Macedonia. 6. It is historically inaccurate to say that thousands of Greek children were gathered by Greek communists and that a new Macedonian identity was forcefully imposed onto them. That's just a conspiracy theory. Those children were Macedonians, and the Macedonian children went to Yugoslavia to live amongst their fellow Macedonians, as they were not allowed to return to Aegean Macedonia. The ethnically Greek children did not go to Yugoslav Macedonia, some of them stayed in the Eastern Bloc and some of them returned to Greece, when Greece opened up the border for them.

[@my8osprive]

@@elenas2299 1. renaming was on 5/10/1920 not 1926 as you said. The context here is that she first says she was born in 1941 in Orovnik and then she says that the Greek government changed the name to Karyes. This implies that the name-change was done after she was born. So I am putting things IN CONTEXT and setting things straight. 2. we all know how oral history gets distorted and is biased when transmitted. 4. really? why? You admit that they were ethnic Macedonians, i.e. NON-Greeks. So why is it hypocritical to let FOREIGNERS who betrayed Greece to have some sort of claim? 5. You are from Bitola but chances are you weren't born before ww2 or the Greek civil war. Thus, you see the RESULT of ethnic cleansing. Isn't there a Greek cemetery in Bitola? kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGmol42bjtmlfc0 Who are these Greeks then? (Sorry no English subtitles) kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3bcqKJje9eYr80 6. Then google The United Nations issued a resolution condemning the abduction of the Greek children. RESOLUTION ADOPTED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE UN DURING ITS FOURTH SESSION. THREATS TO THE POLITICAL INDEPENDENCE AND TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY OF GREECE - 288 (IV) (18 November 1949) Also google the 1952 UN General Assembly which is years later noting that the children (now teenagers and young adults) didn't return. After so many years do you think they weren't assimilated? Georgios Manoukas was the General Inspector of the 1946 Child Gathering (Paidomazoma) and also a former member of KKE (Greek communist Party). He returned disillusioned to Greece during the amnesty period in 1961 and published a book on the child abductions called ‘Paidomazoma’ (‘Child Gathering, The Great Crime against our People’, Georgios Manoukas, 1961). In it he examines Cominform policy towards the children and concludes that the Yugoslav government (Tito) falsified the numbers of these children, integrated them into the population of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia and acculturated them into the new ‘Macedonian’ culture. Some children were trained and sent back to Greece to fight against Greeks, indeed as janissaries. One of the five-members council during the child abduction era was a Slavo-Macedonian from Greece named Sikavitsas. This person according to Manoukas was responsible for the Slavophone Greek children. In the so-called Mountain Government of KKE there were also two Slavophone “ministers”. Their names were Metrovsky and Stavro Kocev. They visited those children that were Slavophone and aimed at the elimination of their use of the Greek language. Their lectures used terms such as ‘Macedonian autonomy’, saying “Greece was a creation of the Big Powers” (like Macedonists do today), claiming that “Slavic Macedonians were the only descendants of the ancient Macedonians”, using language such as “freedom to the occupied Aegean Macedonia from the monarchofasists”, the same language we hear from the children of some of the ‘Macedonian’ expats today!

[@mellake7052]

@@elenas2299 To the query, “intentionally or not?” - short answer - YES. And imagine calling people who are known to have lived in these lands for around 2,000 years and have assimilated with the Macedonians, giving them their current language, and evolving together as an ethnicity, ‘foreigners’! And yet the Vlachs, Albanians, Roma, etc who have moved into the former Morea, present-day “Greece,” much later over the following centuries, and made up the majority of the population there, not to mention the numerous others such as the Armenians, Christians Turks, Georgians, etc merely in the past century, are apparently not foreigners. Ya gotta love the logic (for comedic purposes, that is).

[@mellake7052]

_“I love listening to old people's stories, but I also try to spot inconsistencies or bias.”_ I love reading KZbin comments of paranoid visitors and I often spot their inconsistencies and their extreme bias….and lies and distortions. _“1. When she was born in 1941, her village had been called Karyes for over 20 years (since 1920), not Orovnik as she says.”_ So what if, after Bavarian Greece renamed the village to Karves, Baba Olga used the original name of the village in her native Macedonian language as she is entitled to. You are so insecure and such a nitpicker that this bothers you? Sheesh! Mario and Olga even mentioned the current imposed Greek name, yet you still obsess and choose to make an issue out of a non-issue. Oh, and you missed that Olga referred to present-day Florina as Lerin. OH, NO! Take out the coping pills! 😱 _“2. She describes events (e.g. Metaxas) before she was born.”_ Really? Baba Olga mentions the fascistic policy of warped Greco fascist, Metaxas, which is related to what she talks about, and you raise this because….um….um….uh….ummm..….just because? One of your other mentally disturbed regularly-visiting comrades describes events from not only before he was born but dating back a couple of thousand-plus years, and they’re not even related to the video, but that’s okay? Just standard neogreco procedure? _“3. I gather she didn't migrate to the US at the age of 7 judging by her accent (which isn't truly American), but probably spent a few years in Poland also and migrated in her late teens. Wow... I was right (I am not erasing the previous sentence, I am writing as I am listening to the video). 17 years old as I just heard in the video.”_ The age Baba Olga migrated to the US has any significance? Yet the atrocities described are insignificant and overlooked? Wow….I was right - you ARE paranoid. _“4. When collaborating with the communists and Yugo (that had the intention to grab lands from northern Greece during the Nazi occupation and during the Greek civil war), it is logical to become unwanted in Greece. Your "united Macedonia" irredentist maps don't help this problem become alleviated over the years.”_ A pretty rich comment from the biggest land grabbers in the region. Still dreaming of cosmopolitan Constantinople (which was not Greco, just because that was the language of the church, but cosmopolitan, btw)? But let’s correctly call it Istanbul, considering you have a penchant for the most recent names. “United Macedonia” maps are not irredentist maps at all, oh paranoid one. They are historic maps. Everyone has the right to know what Macedonia was like just prior to it being carved up a mere century-plus-a-few years ago. And what’s the name of that fascist neogreco thug who keeps irredentist maps on his office walls, who regularly writes for an irredentist Greco magazine devoted to the topic (perhaps you’re a subscriber?) of his sweet dreams of grabbing these lands at all costs, even murder. Indeed, this demented thug, who publicly posts private details, including the addresses of innocent individuals who don’t share his views, was responsible for the murder of a Turkish official some years back. No doubt he issued death threats to honest Greek professor and writer, Anastasia Karakasidou, and many others. Yes, ‘Sixty Minutes’ and other programs feature Greek atrocities and paranoia on Australian (and international) television. The United Macedonia maps are true and factual maps which illustrate and educate about Macedonian territory just 3 generations ago. The Treaty expiry date is over, dimi. Relax, max. You’re safe now. _“5. "Ethnic cleansing", kind of like what happened to the Greeks living in former FYROM? Monastir (now Bitola) had thousands of Greeks. This term doesn't cut one way, but both ways. In fact, statistics show very few Greeks nowadays in North Macedonia compared to ethnic Macedonians in Greece. One wonders which "ethnic cleansing" was more effective.... As a note to the creator of the video, there were also thousands of Greek children gathered by Greek communists (i.e. paidomazoma) and moved to Yugoslavia to be assimilated as 'Macedonians'. Read the book 'Eleni' by Nicolas Gage. P.S. it would have been nice to add subtitles for the part spoken in the modern Macedonian language.”_ Which Greeks living in the part of Macedonia northwards of Baba Olga’s region? Not a Greek to be found northwards of Kastoria as observed by Brailsford and even by honest Greek academics, let alone in Bitola and the rest of Macedonia. [Then known as the *PEOPLE’S REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA,* not fyrom - another fascisitc bavarian-greco-imposed name, which insecure FOROGians, aka insecure snowflakes from FCKAM (Former Country Known As Morea, if you prefer), like to use to make themselves feel better, but actually reveal the fascist within. According to Ottoman classifications, Christian Albanians and Vlachs, and even some “Slavs” (including Macedonians) were “Greek” - merely for falling under the Patriarchate church (often just because that was the only church they had access to). The supposed “Greeks” in Bitola were mostly Vlachs who were hellenised (or in the processes of being hellenised, and some were Slavicised….after all, a number of famous Vlachs fought for Macedonia, not Greece). Supposed “Greeks” were less than 10% of the TOTAL population of ALL of Macedonia (that includes the southern part annexed to Greece….which Greece promptly named ‘Northern Greece.’ That’s how much they loved Macedonia…they erased the name). In the whole of Macedonia, some Greeks could be found living alongside Turkish villages in Chalkadiki, as this part of Macedonia had been COLONISED by the Greeks, and there was a Greek MINORITY in Salonika, which was by far, a Jewish city with numerous and varied minority groups, for millennia. As Brailsford, like many others, noted, “The average Greek or Hellenised Vlach in Macedonia, who professes to believe that the whole population is Greek, is doubtless to a great extent the *VICTIM OF HIS DAILY IMPRESSIONS.”* That’s because those who desire to be “Greeks,” no matter their true ancestry, are capable of pushing the truth aside and embracing their fantasies as fact, “It is a sorry transition to turn from this DREAM of a REVIVIED Hellenism which is to civilise the Near East once more, to the ACTUALITIES of Greek politics. *One may say of the Greeks with equal truth that they are capable of superb devotion to an idea, or that they are the READY VICTIMS of any catch-word or abstraction.”* Brailsford “If one takes the linguistic test, *there are practically no villages in European Turkey whose mother-tongue is Greek* ……Salonica is nevertheless predominantly a Jewish town, while Constantinople is hopelessly cosmopolitan. Historically their claims are no better. The Byzantine Empire had no footing in the interior of Macedonia after it had ceased to be Roman and international, and had become patriotic and Greek. The Greek claim rests mainly upon this, that there is still a large faction of the Macedonian population which, *EITHER FROM FEAR, from SUPERSTITION, or from PREFERENCE,* remains within the "Greek" Orthodox (i.e., the Patriarchist) Church. *These people are Vlachs, Albanians, Serbs, or other Slavs of uncertain origin, but they are no more Greeks than the Orthodox Russians are.”* MACEDONIA: ITS RACES AND THEIR FUTURE by H. N. Brailsford Fun fact: The use of the Greek language in church does not magically transform the congregation into ethnic Greeks. Ditto having a Greek name.

[@mellake7052]

As for Nicholas Gage and his Pan “Macedonian” Association buddies…… One wonders where the documentation of the supposed ethnic cleansing of these Greeks by Macedonians, or by Yugoslavia, is hidden. Academics, including historians and anthropologists have recorded, documented and helped produce documentary films about the Macedonian ethnic cleansing by Greece. Never heard of Greek ethnic cleansing by Macedonians or even by ‘Yugoslavs.’ Grecos constantly cry about the Turkish genocide against grecos but forget to mention the Greek genocides against the Turks, which, by all accounts, were far more atrocious. As a note to the writer of these nonsensical empty comments, who didn’t grasp what Baba Olga was saying, she actually mentions that a small number of the child refugees during the civil war were Greek, albeit a minority, so what is your issue here? At least most were permitted to return, unlike the Macedonians, though many chose not to because of Greek treatment of their own people. No Greek was ever “moved to be assimilated as Macedonians” [your posts are getting more ridiculous by the day] as you state, based on the political bias of Nicholas Gage (whose book I own and HAVE read). These families already identified as Macedonian. They were strong enough to resist the brutal hellenisation program of Bavarian Greece. Gage implies that all the children were Greek and all were ‘kidnapped’ which is simply not true. Gage’s claims hold no water and writing a book about his experiences and framing it in such a (deceitful) way does not make his claims true. In fact, L Danforth, who has thorough knowledge of the child refugee issue, regarding the Pan “Macedonian” Association’ {read wanna-be-both-Greek-and-neomacedonians} distortions and Gage’s exaggerations, (untruths) states that they and Gage are suffering from ‘victimhood.’ Nice little euphemism there. Ah, yes - victimhood - dimi’s middle name. Danforth states that the Macedonian children were not allowed to return to their native, ancestral villages (unless they complied with Greek lies) but many actual Greeks REFUSED to return. Danforth describes Gage’s inaccurate perspectives as “glossed over in *a reductionistic master narrative of victimhood.”* At the Princeton seminar, the ‘Pan Macedonian Associaton’ kept distrupting proceedings and refused to accept points which could be verified, unlike their own claims which had no substance. Ah, yes - victimhood - dimi’s middle name. “Although in a few cases children who were taken to Eastern Europe may legitimately be called “hostages” the extension of this label to *all* refugee children from the Greek Civil War is *a gross exaggeration that is convincingly contradicted by our own research and by other authoritative sources, such as the reports of UNSCOB and the International Red Cross.* Cage’s claim *ignores the fact* that the repatriation of the refugee children was made difficult by *both* the communist authorities in Eastern Europe *and the Greek government * (Hradecny 2005; Lagani 1996). It also ignores the fact that in the mid-fifties a substantial number of refugee children *were allowed* to return to their families in Greece, but *many refused to do so.* In this polarised account, which places all the victims on one side, the difficult process through which the victims and their families decided whether to return to Greece is *GLOSSED OVER IN A REDUCTIONISTIC MASTER NARRATIVE OF VICTIMHOOD.”* The Politics of Memory Creating a Meaningful Past p265 “Although the Greek Civil War was a conflict between right and left, in the eyes of the Greek right, communists were by definition Slavs, not Greeks (Gounaris 2002, 65). According to this view, the refugee children were abducted on purpose so that they could be turned into “Slavocommunists.” ”The fact that half the children were native speakers of Macedonian and *came from families who defined themselves as “Macedonians” before they left Greece* is ignored.” [That Greek selective-memory syndrome that Frank Reed writes about.} “The Greek right presents these Macedonian-speaking children as “Greek” children who were “Slavicised” after they were taken to Eastern Europe.” And dimi fell for this. There you go, dimi. Macedonian minority problem solved by the PMA ……or so they thought. Also interesting is how Greeks in the past, even up to the point of the civil war, knew the difference between Greeks and Macedonians. “Greek nationalists are also appalled by the fact that the Greek Communist Party in exile *explicitly recognised the identity of these Slavic-speaking children as Macedonians and referred to them as “Macedonian children”* (Makedonopoula).” In light of the contemporary controversy over the name under which the Republic of Macedonia should be internationally recognised, the frequent use of this term [Macedonian children] *more than fifty years ago* by the Greek Communist Party in Eastern Europe, *amply documented by historical evidence, undermines many of the arguments used by Greek nationalists”* [and dimi] to prevent the Republic of Macedonia from being recognised under its constitutional name. This is why members of the Pan “Macedonian” Association suggested that we doctored the photograph (lol) we showed at the Princeton seminar that depicted a group of children at a summer camp in Poland in 1950 standing under a sign identifying them as ‘expatriate Greek *and* Macedonian children’ ” ekpatrismena Ellinopoula kai Makedonopoula;” Children of the Greek Civil War - Refugees and the Politics of Memory Loring M. Danforth and Riki Van Boeschoten Pan “Macedonian” Association and Mr Gage accusing academics from a respected university of “doctoring” evidence. Too funny! Just like a Greek nationalist claimed to a colleague of Borza that the photographs Borza had taken which proved Macedonians identified as such in the 1800s (roughly when the “Greek” identity as an ethnicity took root) had been ‘doctored.” Wow! Imagine what they could have done with Photoshop in those days! What a unique national philosophy - deny and eliminate the existence of others in order to prove your own. NeoHellenism - Reeking of desperation. “The claim is an excellent example of what has been called *Greek exceptionalism,* an approach to *Greek history focusing on its singularity that refuses to situate historical events in a broader comparative framework* (Beaton 2009, 6; Conway 2004; Gallant 1997). ….This ‘moralising impulse; as Hayden White (1981) has called it, was more than evident both during the Princeton seminar and in the Pan-Macedonian Association’s response.” Ah, yes - victimhood - dimi’s middle name. Imagine writing a 1,463-character comment and saying nothing. That’s victimhood for you.

[@evamorra7203]

Both my parents are begaltsi and were in an orphanage in zgorzelec Poland - I wonder if they knew each other :)

[@HeroManNick132]

So they are Bulgarians? Nice

[@kristgromgrom7821]

@@HeroManNick132 your going in hell 💀

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

@@HeroManNick132......... eat yellow .

[@Dr_AcE_]

My grandfather was from Voden, the village 😢

[@my8osprive]

You mean Edessa?

[@Dr_AcE_]

@@my8osprive today because of the greek government it is called eddesa. But it’s actual name is voden. Same as a lot of Macedonian villages and cities.

[@my8osprive]

@@Dr_AcE_ The original name was Edessa since ancient times. Look it up. Then the Slavs came and renamed it to Voden.

[@Dr_AcE_]

@@my8osprive sorry but you’re lies don’t apply to me, my family has been there centuries.

[@my8osprive]

@@Dr_AcE_ Funny how you call facts as lies. There are many ancient inscriptions with the word. As KZbin doesn't allow links, I will copy some inscriptions for you here: But if I were you, I would stop with the insults calling me a liar, and devote more time to get better informed on this matter. Edessa was the original name before Slavs called it Voden. Here are a few ancient inscriptions found in Macedonia proving this: SEG 36:615: "...ἀρχιέριαν τῆς Ἐδεσσαίων πόλεως..." SEG 36:620: " ἀγαθῇ τύχῃ. Αἴλιος Νεικόλαος Ἐδεσσαῖος ἰατρὸς δωροῦμαι ...." Delacoulonche 277,93: "...πατρὶς μέν μοι Ἔδεσσα, τὸ δ’ οὔνομα Κλαυδία..." P.S. I suppose you also think that Solun is the original name instead of Thessaloniki....

[@ordantrajkovski4134]

Памтиме! Време дојде да светот слушне за нашата Македонија!

[@Κασσάνηρ]

Perfect example of a brainwashed since childhood person.

[@mark1232546]

THEY WERE LITERALLY CHASED AWAY FROM THEIR HOME, STRIPPED FROM THEIR PARENTS AND COMMUNITY. ALL OF THESE MACEDONIAN CHILDREN WERE ORPHANIZED BY THE GREEK GOVERMENT! THIS MACEDONIAN WAS NEVER IN CONTACT WITH THE "TITO PROPAGANDA" THAT YOU SAY "MADE US MACEDONIAN". ACCEPT THE TRUTH! YOU WILL BE JUDGED FOR YOUR SINS!

[@DaniilBalkans-jh2rw]

Baba Lefterija, cista devojka od egejnska Makedonija 🇲🇰. Pocivaj v mir 🙏 mila baba moja.

[@macedoniatimeless9828]

Incredible! Bravo Mario 🫡🇲🇰

[@HeroManNick132]

Колко акаунти на ден си правите, шовинисти?

[@La_eeb-26]

Nice video 🇲🇰❤️🇬🇷

[@marioshistorytalks]

Nice comment!

[@macedonia3321]

Ние сме Македонци. Македонци 2500 години. Од Аристотел и Александар. Нашиот јазик, нашата култура, нашата азбука е како онаа на Аристотел од Александар. Ние не сме Словени. Словените ги освојуваат непријателите на Македонија.

[@vesonikolov8630]

Точно вие сте македонци от 22 години! Преди това бяхте югославяни!

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

MAKEDONSKI NAROD POSTOI 25 VEKA. od FILIP KRAL NA MAKEDONIJA IV vek pred ovaa era i denes XXI vek. DA Z'IVEE M A K E D O N I J A ! ! !

[@evatsel]

Your ancestors called themselves bugartsi and all of a sudden thanks to uncle Tito you turned into a new ethnicity.

[@RU-Aussie]

Ok turk

[@evatsel]

guess.. I'm a local in Macedonia, you know in Greece..

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

@@evatsel MAKEDONIJA IN SOUTH EVROPA . fly ~ ~ fly .

[@ToseMacedonia]

When the Ottomans came to Athens, all they found was an Albanian village. And what's funny, their painters painted it. You can visit their museums to see how you 'ancient' Athens looked like :)

[@mirjanaobednikovska7661]

@@evatsel if you were you would talk Macedonian, kako celi tami shto zborat

[@InTheNewCovenant]

We have a street in Kumanovo called "Solunska" (Thessaloniki street) where the houses were built for the persecuted and exiled Aegean Macedonians. You can't hide this history.

[@macedonia3321]

SolunskaIs Slavic name. Thessaloníki is Macedonian name. Slavs conquered and destroyed our original Macedonian history And cultural. That is the truth. All others are Political Slavic comunistic Propaganda.

[@blagoevski336]

A fellow kumanovchanec, wow, i pass through that street almost every day when going to my friend's house.

[@krwnik8419]

@@blagoevski336 Ти си Българин

[@blagoevski336]

@@krwnik8419 ti si nepismen

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

@@krwnik8419.................. jedi pihtije. u Vranje.

[@gocesamardziev8450]

One more verse, same as the first: Alright Greekos and bulgars, go ahead and say it: "MACEDONIA IS GREECE" "1945" "NO HISTORY" Yet, here before your very eyes, you see living proof of a woman that has been through the worst of it and still lives to tell the tale. By all means, comment. Who knows, you might just accomplish something. Not a lot, but at least something.

[@HeroManNick132]

Да, Георги, поверувахме на баба, която знае съвършен английски и съвсем неплатена от американското посолство като този тук! Чудно ми е колко ''Гоцета'' e имало преди Георги Делчев да се роди?

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

1872 GOCE DELC'EV RODEN vo Kukus' ---- MAKEDONIJA. GOCE DELC'EV E MAKEDONEC i MAKEDONSKI REVOLUCIONER ! ! !

[@zorancomarkoski8356]

God bless you baba ...

[@HeroManNick132]

Ти си българин

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

@@HeroManNick132 TATJANA MAKEDONKA. gjubre .

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

@@HeroManNick132 MARKOSKI --- MAKEDONEC . uz'ivaj.

[@ViktorDelevski]

If you wanna burry us in history, how about an episode about the years long siege of Slavs around Thessaloniki? Or the exodus of Albanians and Greeks from Ohrid(Achrida) or Bitola(Manastiri). You have no idea what's it like to live here with both propagandas, they've built a whole mythology around stories like this. My grandpa Angelaki was agean and sure had one but never dwelled on it until it escalates in hatred. It's easy not to have to face the repercussions and to be a nationalist from far away. Drop by some day and I'll introduce you to my Turkish, Albanian, Roma friends to hear their stories and document them so if you're really interested about the truth can paint the whole picture

[@ViktorDelevski]

@Eleonore Moreau I'm talking about their proto-nationality, not their ethnicity. The east-roman substarat was plentiful: Latin Romans, Greeks, Aromani(Vlachs), Armenians, Roma people(used to be Gypsies, hence bringing back their old identity in the new name)... Furthermore, today there's no such distinction, you adopt an identity - you proclaim yourself you feel like you do on the next census.

[@HeroManNick132]

@@ViktorDelevski Ти си българин!

[@history_repeats8201]

@eleonoremoreau5717 There were no macedonians only Bulgarians.

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

vo M A K E D O N I J A 25 VEKA MAKEDONCI ! ! !

[@captainjack6010]

Marios answered with "Yes" to the following comment: "You think that the designation Macedonian only applies to people that spoke an Idiom originating from Slavic invaders that invaded parts of Macedonia 800+ years after Alexander and you call that with the name of Macedonia? Which ancient historian states that the city of Scupi was part of Macedonia?" He is yet to answer the second question.

[@ЈанеСандански-л1и]

@Captain Jack those Slavic invaders settled down across all of the present day Greece including all of the Pelloponese and some of them reached Crete as well. Do you think there was border and visas for them at Evzoni? 😂😂😂😂😂😂 If we are Slavs mixed with ancient Macedonians you are Slav mixture with prosvigiti, pontic turks, hellens and subsaharan tribes of africa. So, think of a better question next time. And you say Scupi was not part Ancient Macedonia, ha? Do you where the Agrianes were coming from-the special forces of Alexander? 2 km near Scupi...so shut that lying propqgandistic mouth of yours. Also Athens was not part of Macedonia what does that have with the phantasy world that you are living jn? Alexander and Phillip, killed your ancestors raped your women amd burned your houses to the ground, but hey you claim them to be Greeks eventhough there isnt one single ancient source that mentions Greece, Greeks or Kingdom of Greece!

[@marioshistorytalks]

Yes

[@captainjack6010]

@@marioshistorytalks This is not a copy-paste of the comment in the first upload like some other comments. This is a description of what happened there.

[@captainjack6010]

@@marioshistorytalks If you got that then you are indeed yet to name an Ancient historian that states that the city of Scupi was part of Macedonia

[@damjanb4144]

​@@captainjack6010 Why is the city of Scupi important to you? Scupi in particular not, but lot of places here were part of ancient Macedonia.

[@aleksandargrozdanoski4613]

Mario, Im Macedonian. History telling us that Slavic people came from Karpati 5-6 c of new era. But they cant give us any proof, of life in that region, buildings, which language they were speaking, where they lived actually, etc. It would be good topic for video. Bcs UK history sucks sometimes. Also, Macedonians, as they are described, they were tall, brown hair, fighters in spirit... God bless, baba Olga.

[@HeroManNick132]

Ти си българин!

[@aleksandargrozdanoski4613]

@@HeroManNick132 Бугарин по словенски, Македонец по антички речник, тоа е нешто слично. Барем не сум Татар.

[@HeroManNick132]

@@aleksandargrozdanoski4613 Сърбите яко са ти размътили кратуната, за да го мислиш туй, предателю Александре!

[@stefanjovanovski6035]

Браво брату само напред со вистината

[@HeroManNick132]

Леле, затлачен си!

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

. JOVANOVSKI EVERY BEST ! ! ! Tatjana

[@YT-gj6nq]

The Ancient Macedonian did not arise during the 20th century AD. Those are the Slavs in Vardar and Pirin, not Macedonians.

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

MACEDONIANS 25 CENTURIES from KING FILIP ! ! !

[@JohnnyV-ej5vt]

I am a proud Macedonian who lives in Australia. I only speak Greek because for 3000 years Macedonia has been largely Greek speaking. Anything other than this is pure politics nothing more nothing less and shows a complete ignorance of the historical nature of Macedonia - note 3000 years - it is a long time and a lot of history to get your head around. My self conscience is Greek. I attend Greek church and "feel" Greek. Having said that successive governments as they did in Greece in the 40s and across the border in Yugoslavia, Albania and Bulgaria have terrorised Greek speakers as much as the Greek government in the 1940s did the same to Slav-Bulgarian speakers in Macedonia. It was terrible times for everyone and the stories I know are just as bad and just as many from the other side of the coin. There are two sides to every story. It is always the poor people that suffer in wars. Above all we must remember that - NO ONE WINS IN WAR. I wish and pray that there will be some form of healing at some point instead of the same stories circulating around and around over and over raising old wounds that no one can go back to correct. We all know them from all sides of the political and ethnic perspective here in Australia Greeks hate Macedonians and Macedonians hate Greeks etc etc. Let me repeat that I wish and pray because thankfully one of the major concerns from the 1940s onwards as a Greek from Macedonia was never about other language groups or identities living in a larger geographical Macedonia but about atheistic communism that was being spread from the former communist countries I just mentioned. That is undeniable my friends doesn't matter what you know about history. Thankfully with the collapse of the old Soviet Union and a maintenance of our Orthodox Faith in former eastern bloc countries we can relearn what it is to be Christian and above all part of a European family again. Let us join hand in hand as Balkan brothers and sisters and acknowledge that we should never go down this path again. In Jesus name Amen.

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

Apostol Pavle vo MAKEDONIJA vovel HRISTIJANSTVO. MAKEDONSKI CRKVI i MANASTIRI --- 20 VEKA ! ! !

[@jovangjorgjevski8679]

Prekrasno video izvadite ja vistinata na since genocidot Trae I den denes vo Slobodan Makedonija

[@HeroManNick132]

Присвоил си сръбско име + българска фамилия, така ли стана ''македонец,'' бре?

[@jovangjorgjevski8679]

@@HeroManNick132 fasisti

[@HeroManNick132]

@@jovangjorgjevski8679 Ти само това можеш ли да речеш, предателю? Иронията е, че вие в момента сте такива като гърмите клубове, палите знамена, трошите паметници и ни оскърбявате, заплашвате и най-важното е да играете в ролята на жертвата, за да си изкарате хляба у вас, нали?

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

M A C E D O N I A N S ARE WITH MACEDONIAN NAMES ! ! !

[@ΑντώνηςΑντωνίου-ζ5χ]

Free Macedonia from the Slavs

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

MAKEDONSKI NAROD 25 VEKA ! ! slav ?

[@katya_lysenko]

🇲🇰🇲🇰🇲🇰🇲🇰🇲🇰🇲🇰

[@HeroManNick132]

Шовинистка

[@eleutheriosvenizelos2191]

Woman n9

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

. M A K E D O N I J A MK ! ! !

[@veraplevnarovski-ripiloski4063]

🇲🇰🙏🏻

[@dblaze4745]

Jas sum slushal mnogu machni dozivuvanja na makedonskiot narod od Egejska Makedonia prosto ne svatlivo kako e mozno edna demokratska Grcija da bide tolku fashistichki nastroena prema eden miren narod.

[@thegreekcat8862]

Why you people insist of calling yourselves ''Macedonians'' when you are Bulgarians. You speak Bulgarian you sound Bulgarian you have the same heroes as Bulgaria the Bulgarians themselves consider you to be Bulgarian. I understand that at present the Bulgarian State is blocking the way of the inappropriately called North Macedonian State to the European Union until you admit that you are Bulgarian. The reason why you suffered during the years after the end of the second in Greece is because during the Greek civil war you aligned yourselves with with the Greek Communist Party and committed unimaginable atrocities against the local Greek Macedonian Population (the true descendants of Ancient Macedonia) like the abduction of tens of thousands of true Macedonian Greek kids who were then given for adoption throughout Communist East Europe. Very few of you, if any at all, were expelled from Greek territory after the end of the Civil war because you voluntarily followed the Greek Communists across the border into Albania and Yugoslavia. I am a Greek living in Belgium since the age of 17 (I am 70 now) and when Yugoslavia broke up in the 90ies and the ''Macedonian question'' blew up I had a housekeeper who was from the area, she had been born in Greece and during the civil war had fled across the border to Yugoslavia she spoke fluent Greek (like her mother tongue) and what she called ''Macedonian'' of which I did not understand a word. Up to then I considered her as a Greek Communist who had fled the civil war with her family to Yugoslavia, like many other Greek communists had done, and had never asked her about the circumstances of her story. But now I had the opportunity to find out from someone close to me a first hand account of this whole affair . I asked her about the circumstances of her fleeing across the Border and she told me the following: Officers of the Greek Democratic Army (the Communists) came to the village and told them that they had to evacuate the village because the Greek National Army (the Ani-Communist Royalists) were approaching. They also told them that this evacuation was to be temporary as the Communists were going to prevail in the ensuing battle.....the Communists off course did not pre- vail and they found themselves living ever since in the southern region of Yugoslavia. She was totally confused: confused as to what she was : Greek or Slav. I asked her a second question: was ''Macedonian'' ''Bulgarian'' and she said yes, in fact she said that because, at that time, it was difficult to get in Belgium, ''Macedonian'' newspapers and Magazines they were reading the Bulgarian Press. To my question as which language they used at home she said Greek although some families in her old village spoke ''Bulgarian'' which in Yugoslavia they told them to refer as ''Macedonian''. The ''Macedonian'' Identity was a contraption of Tito intended not against Greece but against Bulgaria so that Bulgaria would not lay claim to the territory of Southern Yugoslavia which is indeed occupied by Bulgarians who were brainwashed to call themselves ''Macedonians'' an identity belonging exclusively to Hellenes (the proper word to call Greeks) indeed the Ancient Glory of Macedonia is referred to by Historians everywhere as the ''Hellenistic'' period.

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

ALL KINGS and TSARS in MAKEDONIJA have MACEDONIAN NAMES ! ! !

[@macedonia3321]

To tell the truth to our people. The culture of the ancient Macedonians was about Like the culture of ancient Sparta, ancient Corinth, ancient Athens, ancient Thessaly Etc. The ancient Macedonians were not Slavs. The Slavs conquered and destroyed the ancient genuine Macedonian culture. This is the truth.

[@EasternRomeOrthodoxy]

Only half a quarter of you are ancient Macedonians today. Only haplogroup J2b is Macedonian. Macedonians are a distinct race of Greeks. Most of you are Thracians and Slavs

[@macedonia3321]

@@EasternRomeOrthodoxy Stop Your comunistic Propaganda

[@Sponge416]

"Your ancestors came to Macedonia and the REST OF GREECE and did us great harm” -Alexander the Great (Arrian, Anabasis of Alexander. 2.14.4, 2.14.6)

[@Sponge416]

“We on the contrary shall fight for Greece, and our hearts will be in it” -Alexander the Great (Arrian, “Anabasis Alexander”, 2.7.4)

[@Sponge416]

“I have been appointed leader of the Greeks, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to Asia” -Alexander (“Anabasis Alexander” 2.14.4, 2.14.6)

[@ΑντώνηςΑντωνίου-ζ5χ]

Visit the real Macedonia in Greece and find out the historical truth first hand. Numerous of archaeological sites and museums are available to reveal the greatness of the Macedonian antiquity. Taste the authentic Macedonian cuisine and wine and feel the breeze of the Aegean. Try the real thing!

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

MAKEDONIJA 25 VEKA e vo JUZ'NA EVROPA ! ! !

[@spyroscharalambidis7907]

May I add to my previous comment, the effects of the unfortunate Greek civil war between communists who wanted to usurp power and align Greece to the Soviet block, and Nationalists. With the defeat of the Communist rebels, which incidentally received help, among others, from Yougoslavia, most of them fled to neighbouring communist countries, mainly Yogaslavia. Please learn to read real historical facts, not fake ones.

[@tomvasilarakos8972]

THERE IS NO MACEDONIAN LANGUAGE IT IS BULGARIAN.GREEK MACEDONIANS LIVE IN GREECE.NORTHERN GREECE IS A STATE CALLED MACEDONIA .WHICH DOES HAVE SLAVS BULGARIANS THEY SPEAK BULGARIAN.STOP SAYING AEGEAN MACEDONIA TITO PROPAGANDA.NEVER A MACEDONIAN NATION.LOOK UP HISTORY AND FACTS ,IT WILL REALLY HURT YOU GUYS.

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

M A K E D O N C I 25 VEKA GOVORAT MAKEDONSKI JAZIK ! ! !

[@PrOBOY251]

Croatian is identical to Serbian, does that mean they should be one country? Macedonian and Bulgarian are a lot less similar than Cro is to Srb.

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

M A K E D O N C I 25 VEKA GOVORAT MAKEDONSKI JAZIK ! !

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

@@PrOBOY251 MAKEDONIJA 25 CENTURIES ! ! your country from 2006.

[@jagviljagvil1]

The Ten Commandments 1. MACEDONIA IS A COUNTRY 2. MACEDONIA HAS : PEOPLE, TERRITORY AND GOVERNMENT 3. MACEDONIA IS A REPUBLIC 4. THE NAME OF THE COUNTRY, STATE AND NATION IS THE REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA 5. THE LANGUAGE OF MACEDONIA IS MACEDONIAN 6. THE NAME OF THIS PEOPLE OF MACEDONIA IS MACEDONIAN 8. THE ORIGIN OF MACEDONIA IS THE MACEDONIAN EMPIRE, NEVER GREEK 9. NOBODY CAN CHANGE THE CONSTITUTION OF MACEDONIA EXCEPT THE MACEDONIAN SOVEREIGNTY 10. MACEDONIA IS A LEGAL AND INDEPENDENT COUNTRY Жива била МАКЕДОНИЈА❤️🇲🇰👌

[@captainjack6010]

Do you think Alexander spoke Slavic?

[@HeroManNick132]

North Macedonia* Macedonia is a geographic region, desperate to be a ''country''

[@Bubble23428]

If Macedonia was a country then what happened to your Hellenic language?

[@Bubble23428]

Alexander the Great wouldn’t even understand slavic languages

[@_YouTube-User_]

​@@HeroManNick132keep speaking the truth

[@spyroscharalambidis7907]

The series of videos you are posting only serve as a testament and proof to the argumentation and fears of the Greeks as to what the real concealed and camouflaged positions of the Northern Macedonians of Slavic origin, are. You conveniently forget that Greek Macedonia is populated by a solid ethnic Greek population of roughly 2,500,000 people. You also discount, again conveniently, the fact that there was a movement of population from both sides when today's borders were set, not in any numerically important sense anyway. Whatever you have been conditioned to believe, rest assured that it will never be accepted by those people of classical education.

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

before 25 centuries FILIP created KINGDOM MAKEDONIJA. FILIP KING, ALEXANDER TSAR ON MAKEDONIJA ! ! !

[@spyroscharalambidis7907]

​@@tatjanavelkova5814Frankly, I can't understand what you are on about.

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

before 25 centuries FILIP KING. ALEXANDER TSAR. M A K E D O N I J A WONDERFUL COUNTRY ! ! !

[@alcerscruro6107]

Super Mario and BABA YAGA have a weird history lesson

[@nikolanikola6192]

Мајка и сестра ти се баба Роги смрдле циганско

[@spyroscharalambidis7907]

May I ask Mario where on earth you draw the audacity to use the Vergina star in the place of the "O" of your name! Shame, shame, shame!!!

[@michaelkiprovski3001]

To all the Bulgarians and Greeks: we speak Macedonian; The Slavic dialects which naturally evolved in the region of Macedonia from Slavic migrations centuries ago. “Bulgaria” doesn’t own the South Slavic dialects. They adopted our language from St’s Cyril and Methodius and are sharers of the slavic language. We are not Bulgars or Thracians. We are Macedonians and our DNA vindicates it. We have more Mediterranean alleles and phenotypes than the Greeks themselves (who have far more Ethiopian genetic markers than any other Mediterranean ethnicity). We do not have Turkic and Thracian admixture, we have a Mediterranean/slavic admixture. Macedonians do not understand Bulgarian nor do we speak it. The Macedonians are those who live in Macedonia and have lived there for centuries. These are the people who are the descendants of the Ancient Macedonians. Regardless of the regions cultural and linguistic evolution, we are the people who descend from the Macedonians of antiquity, the early Middle Ages, the Middle Ages, and the high Middle Ages because OUR people lived there for centuries. The Macedonians who once spoke a language closer to Greek, who then ended up speaking Koine Greek, who then ended up speaking Slavic Macedonian are the same one people. We never left, we simply evolved as ALL HUMANS throughout history have done.

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

MAKEDONIJA 25 VEKA vo JUZ'NA EVROPA. ti u region...( ( (.

[@MrTP-vr1ln]

Mario, this is very jaded

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

MARIO IS MACEDONIAN. VERY NICE ! !

[@spyroscharalambidis7907]

On second thoughts, I conclude that it is not worth it spending useful time to comment on your videos.

[@kostantinosadamopoulos5192]

Spartans are Bulgarians ,Albanians and Slavic also 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

MAKEDONIJA 25 CENTURIES ! ! Bulgaria 140 years. Albania 130 years.

[@rcorba1]

Get back in Greece ,Mataksas is long gone...you have properties there ,get back and look for your roots...

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

...................... @ your roots ? ..... celer.

[@Pana-z4f]

NoRD MACEDOIN slavic depuis 40 ans avec de la propagande mansongaire ------- rien a avoire avec l’histoire hellénique macedoine de 🇬🇷 grece depuis 2500 ans

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

M A C E D O N I A N S 25 CENTURIES from KING FILIP ! ! !

[@nereussatyros3461]

The story of death hahahaha..she thought English had a war in greek macedonia hahahaha..I think English lines were south

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

M A C E D O N I A N S SPEAK MACEDONIAN LANGUAGE ! ! @... adio.

[@DM10MKDfcB]

Марио истражи и направи видео за Николај Николаевич Дурново и неговите записи за "Бугарската пропаганда во Македонија " и како Бугарија ги убедувала европските сили дека населението во Македонија било бугарско, и затоа во многу карти населението во Македонија било запишано како бугарско. Мислам дека има и книга за бугарските пропаганди од Николај Николаевич Дурново.

[@HeroManNick132]

Какви пропаганди те гонят тебе?

[@theonestoridis4642]

It's the bullshit that everyones jealous about,they have the best hallucinations so people want to feel little of their crazy high.

[@ivansince91]

Great video! I’m from Bitola and my grandfather is from village German.

[@HeroManNick132]

Битоля ке бъде български!

[@ivansince91]

@@HeroManNick132 😂😂😂😂

[@HeroManNick132]

@@ivansince91 Истина е, западно посърбено българче! Сърбите на нищо не ви направиха, освен мърша и провокаторчета!

[@vane4919]

Градот Софија е Македонија е и ќе🎉биде ​@@HeroManNick132

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

BITOLA ---- 25 VEKA MAKEDONSKI GRAD. od FILIP KRAL NA MAKEDONIJA IV vek pred ovaa era i denes XXI vek ! ! !

[@velgoshti]

We need more people like Mario. God bless you

[@HeroManNick132]

Титовисти ли?

[@mellake7052]

@@HeroManNick132 Asparukh ли?

[@salar1586]

@@HeroManNick132 Ако постои бугарски јазик требаше да биде нешто како Казакстански или Монголски со азбука на кирилица. Аспарух ли го измислил "словенскиот" јазик?

[@HeroManNick132]

@@salar1586 Пак започваш бабините ми деветини да вярваш на шизофренинския си шовинизъм и насаждане на омраза да джвакаш нещо, което е било издъвкано някога преди! Упорито магаре си, ясно е, че си катър, не се даваш така лесно, дори целият да те изпраха не само ума ти, жалко, че си им мишена! Не знам каква е приликата между Монголия и Казахстан като в античността си не са използвали кирилица! Не помня ''J'' да е част от глаголицата, нито от оригиналната кирилица на Климент Охридски. Язък на Кръсте Мисирков, Блаже Конески, Георгия Пулевски, Вук Караджич, който са били част от създаването на тъй наречената ''македонска литературна норма,'' за да се отдалечите по всевъзможност от нас поради яд, завист, ревнивост и още други лоши качества за вас! Докога ще трае туй, обясни ми? Голям македонизъм, който ви изяжда лека-полека отвътре! Ама то е казано, както той е дошъл, така ще си отиде няма да трае вечно, трябва да изминат 2-3, 4, 5 поколения и всичко ще си дойде по старому, ако сърбите не си пъхат носа всъде!

[@HeroManNick132]

@@mellake7052 Кубер къде е?

[@chasetsotsos3792]

My family is from armensko in Aegean Macedonia, I’m trying to learn the lerin dialect but there’s 0 online that I can find lol

[@leethomas5830]

My mum was from armensko her maiden name was greouioes

[@leethomas5830]

@@theonestoridis4642 no thanks

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

@@theonestoridis4642 your roots .......... junk.

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

@@theonestoridis4642 your roots ? ...... horse.

[@mirjanaobednikovska7661]

You have ti find some Macedonian there in Lerin and learn it like that

[@oshiotomakan6900]

Hahahah SLAVOVSKI. Bulgarian Language, flag stolen from the Japanese. And begging for money in Athens.

[@voskreglavincevska7080]

You are like Bulgarian . Made a big atrocities in the past ! You taught that Macedonian Slavic seed will be just wanished ! OK for the past , but how you are not shamed today in 21 century to make jokes because the truth is revealed !

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

ZNAME KUTLES' ( Vergina Sun ) e MAKEDONSKO 25 VEKA ! ! !

[@salar1586]

Do a video on Nikodim Tsarknias he just got attacked again he is in his 90's and the nazistic greeks broke his car and house. You can even interview him if you want.

[@MarcoPolo-mp]

Makedonija vecna, mnogu vojski pominale niz Makedonija ama makedonskiot narod uspeval da opstane so bozja pomos, zasto nie sme slugi gospodovi I na nikoj drug, privilegija e da se bide makedonec, glavata gore braka I sestri makedonci, zapadot propaga, fala mu na gospod 🙏,so makedonski pozdrav 👌

[@HeroManNick132]

Господ е македонец?

[@salar1586]

@@HeroManNick132 Не разбираш Македонски, затоа прашуваш глупи прашања, прочитај му го коментарот уште 5 пати пред да пишеш нешто брука.

[@HeroManNick132]

@@salar1586 Разбирам, но ако е написан на читава кирилица, а не на измислена шльокавица като тая. И под ''Божия помощ'' значи, че Господ е македонец?

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

@@salar1586 @Hero razbira Makedonski. a, trese gluposti.

[@kristgromgrom7821]

We need more Macedonian historical accounts on youtube. Great job

[@Georgi.Delchev.Reborn]

Why do you need more propaganda and fake history?

[@ΑλεξανδροςΝεστοριδης]

You actually need history lessons

[@kristgromgrom7821]

@@ΑλεξανδροςΝεστοριδης ok? That why im asking for more Macedonian historians 😂

[@ΑλεξανδροςΝεστοριδης]

@@kristgromgrom7821 try to read what is written on ancient Macedonian coins. Of course you have to read greek to understand. What do macedonian historians say about that?

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

@@ΑλεξανδροςΝεστοριδης MACEDONIAN HISTORY 25 CENTURIES ! ! ! Greece 190 years.

[@Pehchevskimakedonec]

Zdravo mario zosto go izbrisa videoto

[@HeroManNick132]

@@blazhespireski2259 А правителството на САЩ, където той живее оправиха ли му ги?

[@ivantchakalski4102]

A lot of this story doesn’t fit with time lines first instance is when she was 7 year old the war was finished for hole 3 years born in 1941 most of this story have big holes and wrong information like she learned this thing from script. All wars made a lot of people around the world to suffer in different ways but people should remember to tell the truth about their experiences and not giving propaganda stories just to be able to create falls histories hope this is not one of them

[@mellake7052]

The Greek Civil War commenced 1946.

[@voskreglavincevska7080]

Very late in my life I have realised that children were protected actually , like today we can see that internationally children are always protected ! That is why they don't know what was real happening ! Even the Hellas government was not inferior back in that time . They were saving children too because of very bad political situation for which Slav Macedonian "were" guilty . There was political persecution to Macedonian even they were not guilty and were not involved in political scene ! We remember how long was composer Mr Theodorakis in prison and deported out of Hellas ! Take today situation in Palestine and in Ukraine No indoctrination was possible because they were children and it is symptomatic how new generation Greeks do not feel regret ! There was very bad period in Greece ! Up to 1974 it was closed country !

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

grci ukradoa Egejska Makedonija. dogovor 1913 : Grcija na MAKEDONIJA vrak'a Egejska Makedonija ! ! !

[@ivantchakalski4102]

@@tatjanavelkova5814 May be you are right, but if your are the Old Macedonians than you ancestors made big mistake becoming Slavs , can’t blame anybody for this, with stilling history and culture from another nations.

[@tatjanavelkova5814]

grci ukradoa Egejska. bugari -- Pirinska. dogovor 1913 : Grcija na MAKEDONIJA vrak'a Egejska Makedonija. Bulgaria na MAKEDONIJA vrak'a Pirinska Makedonija ! ! !

[@ladev91]

Incredible story! Everyone still can speak Macedonian in Agean Macedonia. They know what they really are.

[@captainjack6010]

Do you think Alexander spoke Slavic?

[@marioshistorytalks]

Many such cases! Experienced it first-hand myself

[@captainjack6010]

@@marioshistorytalks Do you think Alexander spoke Slavic?

[@ladev91]

@@captainjack6010 language and ethnicity are not the same.

[@captainjack6010]

@@ladev91 Do you think Alexander spoke what you speak?

[@Petreski447]

Hello Mario and greetings from Prilep, You did great work with this interview, probably more then you yourself understand.. We must record conversations with our elders, they lived through our history and its important to have it on tape because when they pass away the living link of memory is lost forever. This then makes it easy for Bulgarians and Greeks to make claims on who they where and what they did, so thanks for doing what your doing

[@HeroManNick132]

Батман е чист македонец, роден во Прилеп, нели? 😂

[@Petreski447]

@@HeroManNick132 Dojdi vo Prilep i prasaj, ke ti treba Batman da te spasi

[@HeroManNick132]

@@Petreski447 От какво? Той не се ли премести от отдавна да живее в Готъм? 🤣